New Mouse

[ZERO]

So my mouse wheel broke and thus I am looking for a new mouse. I had a RAT 7 and really enjoyed it b/c of how it fit in my hand. Note that I had the mouse configured to be as small as possible with a tight grip. Wanted to know if anyone had any recommendations for good mice that hopefully will not break after a few years. I should also mention that I used to have a Logitech G5 but never liked the grip and it gave me sores on the side of my hand b/c of the way the hand rests when using that mouse so anything of that design is out of the question. I would like something with side scrolling if possible but I would rather have something that will be reliable and durable.

In the mean time if my RMA does not go though b/c it is too old then I will try to fix it one last time before spending the $ on a new mouse.

[maynard]

what vehicle does the RAT 7 turn into when it transforms?

[Penis シ]

Vagina bought this mouse a for himself for Christmas.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104318

Personally, I hate using a wired mouse for gaming, so they have the g700, but that one is about a perfect size, has adjustable dpi on the fly, and has a weight pack. It's a really good mouse especially for the price.

[Carmichal]

I use a death adder. Simple design, but very functional. The dpi is not bad at all. (Also I have a horrible habit of chewing through my plastic covered cords so the nylon helps. Mild case of pica I know I am weird.)

However I took one look at the RAT 7 and see you're not a big fan of simple. So maybe you should tell us why you don't want the RAT 7 again?

[brett friggin favre]

if you liked the rat but want something reliable, the best i could recommend would be a logitech g9/g9x. it's kinda like getting the same car, only this time it actually has sheetmetal to protect everything. logitechs rarely if ever die...hell my brother uses his g9 usually but sometimes he switches back to the mx310 he got over a decade ago. personally i'm using a g400, but his g9 was much more comfortable

[maynard]

shit... I kinda want a new mouse after seeing some of these lol.

the RAT seems pretty badass... but I think id spend most my time starting at it with anticipation waiting for it 2 transform into something even cooler... like a mini fridge full of beer.

the G9 is also pretty nice... might head over 2 futureshop next payday and take a look at those 2...


zero... is the RAT solid? it just looks like it might break easy or a part busts off or something ya know? and I'm sorry... as I know this is supposed 2 be a thread that helps you get a new mouse... but ya got me intrigued lol

[-=Toy=-=Québec=-FR]

I use the Logitech G500 that I bought at FutureShop. I like it and the DPI is correct

[Sarce]

I am currently using a Rat 7 mouse with a similar configuration to what you described and I can definately recommend the G9 over it.
It is made for a small tight grip (and comes with two differently sized grips at that) and has a very solid mouse base for accurate movement.
I personally noticed a drop in my GG performance swithing to the Rat 7 so the G9 definately remains my favorite.


Oh yeah... and hello Ibis forums...

[ZERO]

If you do not want that RAT7 I will buy it off you b/c I would ideally like to avoid buying a new mouse if possible b/c I can not aford one right now. However, I figured I might as well start looking for a new one as to plan for the worst.

[maynard]

I am currently using a Rat 7 mouse with a similar configuration to what you described and I can definately recommend the G9 over it.
It is made for a small tight grip (and comes with two differently sized grips at that) and has a very solid mouse base for accurate movement.
I personally noticed a drop in my GG performance swithing to the Rat 7 so the G9 definately remains my favorite.


Oh yeah... and hello Ibis forums...

G9 it is... thank you mysterious stranger.

[ZERO]

Well I will say that the RAT is not that high quality but it will not break easily. In my case the wheel broke b.c I tossed it across my desk b/c you dam noobs made me rage rofl. The main reason I like it is that after over 2 years of ownership it is the first mouse I can use for hours and hours and hours at a time without any pain developing in my hand or wrist. All previous mice I have had required me to massage the side of my hand and or apply ice once a week to prevent permanent damage. So no matter how many small issues this mouse may have I would ideally like to fix it b/c I trust that it is good for my health.

[Chef C Green]

Yeah, I don't know if I anything really compares to your RAT/Transformer, you must get some sort of power bonus just by channeling through that. I doubt anything will beat the high tech beast you've been using, but I can't complain with the Logitech Nano's endurance. Going on 5 years, it responds just as good as it always has, being no worse for wear. Because of it's size, you wouldn't hold it in the cup of your hand like you would other mouses, and because of my long fingers I tend to play with it at the tips which can be a little weird for some people (that i've noticed). If I'm ever in the market to look for an upgrade, I know what I'll be saving up for.

[maynard]

Ive used cheap generic ones my entire life, so after the like thousands of hours of vanilla wow back in the day... my wrist and hand got pretty damn tough and immune 2 pain.

will check them both out... see what feels best in the hand. LOVE the look of the RAT though might go for it just on that lol...

[Tickle Me Emo]

That is one strange looking mouse. I'd definitely check out the G9, it's similarly shaped, and Logitech mice are built like tanks. Personally I can't NOT use a G5-style mouse, any other mouse cramps my hand. But, different people, different hands.

EDIT: Caveat - I don't throw my expensive gaming peripherals, ever.

[SCRIBBLE]

Steel series sensei is my personal recommendation for claw grip style. I have used the razer imperator and logitech (mx revolution, g9, g500 ) and all broke in less than a years time from normal wear and tear and neither company would replace them even though it was faulty manufacturing. Steel series will replace my sensei if it breaks

[acolyte_to_jippity]

i use a Mibru Nidhogg

http://www.mibru.com/

excellent mouse, looks awesome, comfortable, and quite high quality.

[Spasm]

I use the G500 and it's great!

[Stan]

everybody has these fancy fking mouses, and all i have is the mouse that came with my computer...

[SCRIBBLE]

everybody has these fancy fking mouses, and all i have is the mouse that came with my computer...

Nothing wrong with that. I switched to better quality mice for improved accuracy and smoother draw within cad, not for use with gaming.

I used a Dell mouse for 8 years and never had an issue with gaming.

[Tickle Me Emo]

I used a cheap Microsoft optical mouse for a long time and could play just as well. However, it was much less comfortable and didn't even have a scroll wheel, much less a switchable smooth/notched scroll with tilt, extra side buttons, and switchable sensitivity that are standard fare on a more expensive mouse. I make extensive use of the wheel and buttons, and I don't have any hand discomfort, so it's worth it to me. YMMV, use what works and you can afford.

[ZERO]

Steel series sensei is my personal recommendation for claw grip style. I have used the razer imperator and logitech (mx revolution, g9, g500 ) and all broke in less than a years time from normal wear and tear and neither company would replace them even though it was faulty manufacturing. Steel series will replace my sensei if it breaks

Wow what I love about that thing is that you are given total control over all your sensor data! Now that is what I would love and if I had to lose side scrolling than that would clearly be the mouse to get. Too bad side scrolling is so dam hard to find.

[maynard]

everybody has these fancy fking mouses, and all i have is the mouse that came with my computer...

I don't have a fancy one. I just feel like blowing some more money for my new PC is all. this would be my first fancy mouse.

[XX0wnsXY]

Razer naga...i swear by it. I dont even customize it. I just love how its the smallest mouse i could find.

[Tickle Me Emo]

Regarding the Sensei,


EXACTAIM: SLOW DOWN AND FOCUS
SteelSeries ExactAim will allow you to be more precise. Headshots anyone? As you slow down your cursor the mouse will decelerate even more allowing you to focus on your target.


EXACTACCEL: MOVE FAST, NO EVEN FASTER
SteelSeries ExactAccel does just the opposite as ExactAim. As you increase the speed of your mouse movement, ExactAccel will accelerate your movements even faster in order for you to move across your game or page faster.

Did they really just break mouse acceleration into two separate components and market them as amazing advancements in gaming? Not only is acceleration incredibly old news, it is also terrible, and they are terrible for doing this.

[ZERO]

Yea I saw that lol, as long as it can be turned off that is all that matters. I like that you can adjust the lift detection but I do not like that you can not adjust the weight or have sidescrolling.

[brett friggin favre]

Yea I saw that lol, as long as it can be turned off that is all that matters. I like that you can adjust the lift detection but I do not like that you can not adjust the weight or have sidescrolling.

i had a mouse that allowed you to adjust lift detection, but it tracked terribly on a cloth mat which is why i switched back to a g400. it did track well on hard surfaces though and was pretty comfy. cyber snipa silencer if you wanna take a look at it.

[CYBER]

Razer naga...i swear by it. I dont even customize it. I just love how its the smallest mouse i could find.


fuck you, and your guildwars 2 binds!
I swear I lose like 5 pounds per gaming session just trying to reach for the 5-6-7-8-9-0 number-skills ... and u just move 1 mm...

Fuck u !

That said, I'm too much of a clumsy player to accurately use the naga, although it does have a sick design.
That's why i bound those numbers to the side buttons of my G700 :D, now we're on even grounds bitch. <3


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As for a COMFORTABLE MOUSE, @ZERO.
I still swear by the G700.
I have the G500 too, both of them are very comfortable and gd for gaming,

but the g700 is more mobile due to its dual wire/wireless mode, and 13 macro buttons.

[maynard]

fuck you, and your guildwars 2 binds!
I swear I lose like 5 pounds per gaming session just trying to reach for the 5-6-7-8-9-0 number-skills ... and u just move 1 mm...

lmfao if that's a challenge for you.. I suggest never trying WoW.

[CYBER]

lmfao if that's a challenge for you.. I suggest never trying WoW.

is it bad if i said that gw2 is the FIRST mmo i've EVER played?

The only 2 other things with "leveling" (and non-mmo) that i've ever done were WCS, and pokemon. edit: oh and skyrim... but skyrim doesn't have you mashing these many buttons...
Leave poor/busy/un-interested me alone :(

[maynard]

its cool, I know you're not big into MMO's or have much time invested. GW2 amazed many people cause of how amazingly simplistic it is... so you complaining about the like 8 buttons made me lol :icon_mrgreen:

[ZERO]

I will only used wired devices for gaming.

[SCRIBBLE]

Did they really just break mouse acceleration into two separate components and market them as amazing advancements in gaming?

I believe their media/marketing department came up with a clever way to market old technology instead and not as amazing advancements in gaming. Both features arrived disabled by default, if that means anything.

As far as side scrolling, the lack of this function on the Sensei is a negative but I could never find the full package of 2 side buttons, on the fly sensitivity/mouse profile button, side scrolling, decent DPI, braided wire, page up/down buttons, and a company that stands by their product. The Sensei is my personal favorite as it is only lacking the page up/down and side scrolling, has a nice weight and look to it. The adjustable color LED spectrum is pretty flashy but it is much more limited than what it advertises in that regard. The two lights that you are able to change do not match if the same color is chosen with a certain assortment of colors (certain reds, blues, etc.).

I liked the Razer Imperator but it broke too quickly for a gaming mouse from a gamer-first company. The left mouse button wore down at the rubber receiver from a couple months of CS:S and small amounts of CAD work and that particular mouse may have been defective but Razer did not stand by their product and let me down completely.

The legacy MX Revolution was a kick ass mouse but it was wirless and this was several years ago. It broke quickly due to some internal production issue, Logitech did not stand by their product. I would buy another one today for my laptop if it were not a dated, poor performing mouse in comparison to today's standards.

I have used the G500 or 400, not sure which, but it was a great mouse. I did not think it was as comfortable as the Sensei and I am almost positive the G5/400 I used was wireless.

[ZERO]

I thought it did have a scroll wheel for up/down...

[SCRIBBLE]

I was referring to specific buttons for page up and down right below the scroll wheel. It does have a scroll wheel and I programmed the right side buttons as page up and down.

[mag36]

Steel series sensei is my personal recommendation for claw grip style. I have used the razer imperator and logitech (mx revolution, g9, g500 ) and all broke in less than a years time from normal wear and tear and neither company would replace them even though it was faulty manufacturing. Steel series will replace my sensei if it breaks

I Have the steele series merc keyboard and have been eyeing the Sensei mouse for several months. if its good as you say it is ill may have to pick it up with my next check. If i remember correctly i can pick it up at my work for 60 bucks

[SCRIBBLE]

I Have the steele series merc keyboard and have been eyeing the Sensei mouse for several months. if its good as you say it is ill may have to pick it up with my next check. If i remember correctly i can pick it up at my work for 60 bucks

I have not had an issue with it yet and I have faith that you will enjoy it. Let me know what you think if you purchase it. $60 is not bad at all as I bought it for $79.99. What do you think about the merc keyboard?

ZERO, what did you end up buying?

[mag36]

I have not had an issue with it yet and I have faith that you will enjoy it. Let me know what you think if you purchase it. $60 is not bad at all as I bought it for $79.99. What do you think about the merc keyboard?

ZERO, what did you end up buying?
http://steelseries.com/wp-content/uploads/productpage_mercstealth_big.png

my fingers used to always cramp up using AWSD keys on a regular keyboard, but with the whole extra area for gaming your fingers get to relax alot more. It works great havent had any issue for the 5 or so years that i have had it. May take a day to get used to the gaming layout and i dont really use the z-engine software to program the keys much since you can do that in most game controls menu.

[ZERO]

I am using the G5 for now as my backup. I have the RAT 7 currently shipping back for RMA. Hopefully it will make it back in a few weeks and not break again. :wtg:

[Dj panda]

I use my laptops trackpad and mouse. It is a different way of gaming and i was wondering if i was the only one who did this o.o

[maynard]

I use my laptops trackpad and mouse. It is a different way of gaming and i was wondering if i was the only one who did this o.o

Freak...

[Dj panda]

sorry maynard for being an abomination :( I never got use to using a mouse for gaming, wasnt the same reaction time for me, nor do i have the space for a desktop so thats why i have a laptop because i play games with it on my lap not on a desk.