OmegaWizKid <ibis.a> Abusing Slay, Slap, Blind and Change map

[Racorac]

OmegaWizKid <ibis.a>
My username: Racorac

Map change abuse one
Map: 4 way tunnel
Time: 1/8/13 3:09:00 PM Servertime
Complaint:
After no player consultation or votes:

[SM] OmegaWizKid <ibis.a>: Changing map to ze_licciana_escape_v2...
Demo Proof: ftp://zm.ibisgaming.com/auto-20130108-150219-zm_4way_tunnel_v2.dem

Map change abuse two
Map: ze_endless_park_b05
Time: 1/8/13 3:47:00 PM Server time
Complaint: On Endless park he changed it to beach strike without any voting or consultation

In the following Demo:
Tick 37200 Player says: hey rtv this map
Tick 37400 omega says: "ah i'll just change it"
Demo Proof: ftp://zm.ibisgaming.com/auto-20130108-153825-ze_endless_park_b05.dem

Slap, Slay and Blind
Map: zm_420_beachstrike_b2
Time: 1/8/13 3:47:00 PM - 1/8/13 4:16:00 PM Server time
In the following demo:
Tick 53700 He Slayed a Human for barricade breaking the round before. However at the time of the transgression, the accused was a zombie. So this was either mistaken identity or madness that a zombie would break the rules for breaking a barricade.
Tick 88000 He Blinded someone
Demo Proof: ftp://zm.ibisgaming.com/auto-20130108-154810-zm_420_beachstrike_b2.dem

Console Screenshot:
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1101394890175982701/82FFF17EBA2434C36AA26A938F431DB296031EC0/

[maynard]

re oppened. gonna let him tell his side regarding the slay slap etc...

and as I said before. read the TOS. senior admin can change the map, he doesn't need your approval, or 2 have a discussion about it... provided it's not happening every single map.

[Racorac]

Ok, it's just that the maps changes were so close together it felt pretty disruptive. So I guess "rapid" is open to interpretation. Then the slapping and slaying on top really wasn't conducive to a possitive playing experience for me or the other players.

These things clearly violate:
Use admin privileges sparingly and appropriately.
In my opinion as this is neither sparingly or appropriately.

[DrSheldonCooper]

So the rule says, no rapid map change. What exactly does that mean? He changed the map two times, the first one fairly at the beginning. So if anyone could explain what rapid map change means?

That really destroys the playflow. I mean, why are there possibilities like RTV if the admin can just go around and change the map to whatever he or she likes? Especially after not even playing long on the map. There were enough players for a voting.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

So the rule says, no rapid map change. What exactly does that mean? He changed the map two times, the first one fairly at the beginning. So if anyone could explain what rapid map change means?

That really destroys the playflow. I mean, why are there possibilities like RTV if the admin can just go around and change the map to whatever he or she likes? Especially after not even playing long on the map. There were enough players for a voting.

rapid means changing maps incredibly fast.

senior admins retain the right to change the map to whatever they wish, at any time, without needing to consult the players. things like RTV exist because admins will not always utilize their map changing rights, and will sometimes leave that to the players. other times, however, they will reserve such privlages to themselves.

if you guys weren't playing on a map very long, it sounds like he didn't like that map, and thus changed to a different one. the number of players does not matter at all.



also, points for reading the format thread and bringing up demos, however do not put links to the FTP site. those links will die, normally within 2 days. download the demos, and attach them to your post instead.

[maynard]

how is 3:09:00 PM Server time - 3:47:00 PM Server time a rapid map change? honestly... it's clear you guys are just pissed off that you didn't get 2 play the map you liked... get over it. He's not going 2 get in shit for that as he did nothing wrong. If you're going 2 catch him on anything, it will be the slap slay blind shit.

[Omegxkid]

I did slay the wrong person because the person in the cade with me smashed the cade at the end making us both die i click on the worng name it happens and i said sorry to him and also offer to let him kill me after witch when i told motherfunker to stop shooting me 5 times so he could get the kill.. when mother killed me I then blinded him and froze him with all of 40 seconds left on the map in a cade with another person that he was safe in. as senior admin i can change the map and if you look back in all of the maps played i 98% of the time will do a map vote and ask what people want and change it accordingly.

[DrSheldonCooper]

No Maynard, you got it wrong. I don't want to get him into trouble for anything, I just wanted to know what a rapid map change means. For me, it was a rapid map change. Changing 2 maps out of 4 suddenly is - for me - a rapid map change. If you mean that this rule only means changing one map after another, then you should point it out. I'm fine when it's the server's rule, and this has absolutely nothing to do with getting Omega into trouble. Also, I didn't like both maps, it just disrupted the game flow.

[Racorac]

Looking at the definition of rapid:

Happening in a short time or at a great rate
You can see that changing the map after a very short time constitutes the description rapid. This change happened in a VERY short time after the map starting. So by the wording of these rules it was wrong. I suggest you change the wording to fit better to "repeatedly changing maps in a short space of time" rather than "rapid".

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how is 3:09:00 PM Server time - 3:47:00 PM Server time a rapid map change? honestly... it's clear you guys are just pissed off that you didn't get 2 play the map you liked... get over it. He's not going 2 get in shit for that as he did nothing wrong. If you're going 2 catch him on anything, it will be the slap slay blind shit.

there was a map played in-between those maps. And if you read the definition of rapid you would see it only has to be quick. not frequent. But I see the general consensus is the latter.

[maynard]

I don't need 2 read definitions... I'm the guy who decides if he was abusing or not... and have been doing this for going on 3 years... so you'll have 2 excuse me if I don't care what your opinion is on how we have always handled things in this community.

as ive said already... he did nothing wrong regarding the map changes... get over it.

[kenneth918237]

Racorac stop bitching omega didnt do anything wrong i was there and he exuced him self for the wrong slay the person who he wanted to slay !zteled away from me and he was planning to slay him and beginning of the round and right then some one joins and his list gets reset then thats what happend and about the map changing its not super fast we always play 2-3 round and when you only with 6 players you dont go to a huge map or with 25 you dont go to a map with only vent labor gigantic

[DrSheldonCooper]

Excuse me, but does the "most helpful admin" on this gaming platform need to be that arrogant?

I think both me and Racorac agreed that it's totally fine if this is your server rule, but if you say people should read the TOS, you should consider your wording, so that this does not happen again. If it were more clear on the TOS, there would have been no reason to accuse Omega on rapid map changing. I don't see how an admin cannot care for this.

[Assassin]

Excuse me, but does the "most helpful admin" on this gaming platform need to be that arrogant?

I think both me and Racorac agreed that it's totally fine if this is your server rule, but if you say people should read the TOS, you should consider your wording, so that this does not happen again. If it were more clear on the TOS, there would have been no reason to accuse Omega on rapid map changing. I don't see how an admin cannot care for this.

Logical but flawed. The clan here have final say on what rules mean and as he has been doing this for 3+ years he has the right to say yes or no and his rule is final unless Zero (the server owner) or Jigsaw (co-owner) say different, and they haven't.

[Penis シ]

Getting real tired of your shit, Sheldon.

It's been defined before and out of the 4,621 members this forum has, you seem to be the only one that has taken up a big stink on this. Rapid means too much. Vapid means your point. Also, Maymay is clan. That means that at the snap of a finger, you could be not playing here. Calling him arrogant. I hear that makes his fingers a little twitchy. You should try to get that bullseye tattoo on your ass removed, now.

[Racorac]

I don't need 2 read definitions... I'm the guy who decides if he was abusing or not... and have been doing this for going on 3 years... so you'll have 2 excuse me if I don't care what your opinion is on how we have always handled things in this community.

as ive said already... he did nothing wrong regarding the map changes... get over it.

While I respect that you have put allot of time and effort into your community I resent the tone. The way you addressed me when I was only reporting what I felt disrupted the game play and violated the TOS as they are written. I see now that you have a very different interpretation as I conceded before, but that doesn't mean i'm an idiot for not reading the TOS when I merely interpreted the wording literally and did not read endless thread to find legal precedent.
Furthermore, as the ambassador of your community and mediator in these matter I think a more polite/diplomatic way of telling me that your word is law and you don't care for my opinions would be more appropriate.

[DrSheldonCooper]

If you're getting too tired of my "shit", then don't read it.

@Assassin
I, in no way, say that you should change the rules. But I suggest to point it out more clearly what your definition of "rapid" means so that new player - like me - understand than more clearly. That is all I am saying, why is that such a big deal?

I repeat: I understand what you define as rapid map change NOW. But this was only clear after reporting Omega. This report would not have happened if the rules were more clear. That is all I am saying. I do not want to accuse Omega just because the rules are not pointed out clearly.

[maynard]

Excuse me, but does the "most helpful admin" on this gaming platform need to be that arrogant?

I think both me and Racorac agreed that it's totally fine if this is your server rule, but if you say people should read the TOS, you should consider your wording, so that this does not happen again. If it were more clear on the TOS, there would have been no reason to accuse Omega on rapid map changing. I don't see how an admin cannot care for this.

I'm not arrogant... well... I am, but I wasn't in this thread till I explained 2 you he did nothing wrong and 2 drop the map changes, and you continued 2 go on about it.

I am helpful, you're just not liking the answers you're getting as they shut down what you're trying 2 accomplish. you didn't even know of the TOS till I told you 2 read the damn thing... so why you're acting like the wording on it could have prevented all this is quite asinine.

you also didn't accuse him of "rapid map changing" you accused him of just changing the map without a vote or consulting anyone else if they were ok with it. as I said, Ive been doing this a long time, you're not going 2 bullshit your way around me lol, far better people than you have tried. If you're going 2 lie, think them out a bit better.

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no abuse. map changes were legit under our rules and he omega's side of the story held up in the demo...

Closed.