> Wasabi | 1/28/13 | 1:35 PM | STEAM_0:1:14895868

[B1ackOut]

Name in Game: > Wasabi
Steam-ID: STEAM_0:1:14895868
Where: Zombie Mod
Link to ban: http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=%E2%80%BA+Wasabi&Submit=
Reason for perma ban: Bhop Script, due to ZERO's changes it is impossible to bhop on the server, even as a zombie. Ticks - 4450, 5200-6000 If more is needed he is doing it for a large portion of the map.6831

[thecat]

BAN this asshole I saw the whole thing, this guy was hacking.

[kenneth918237]

you didnt see shit i called him out on it and i called in blakc out because you dont even know what it is

[brett friggin favre]

attaching a demo of what is most likely the worst bhopper in the world. be that as it may, you can see that with just a scroll wheel it's possible to get some sort of sustained bhop, and with a little more practice i could do with it what wasabi does. if you watch wasabi's demo, there are several places where he messes up. SCRIPTS DO NOT MESS UP. when you look for bhop script especially in zm, it'll be flawless. several times he loses his momentum, meaning a mistimed jump, which doesn't happen with a script. everything i'm seeing here points to regular scroll wheel bhopping. voting unban.

in regards to the disabling bhop thread, i note this post in particular http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/10387-bhopping-disabled?p=151357#post151357

[thecat]

So this means that there are very few b-hopers on our servers.
I thought that the "middle ground" zero was talking about was going to make it very hard for zombies to b-hop and impossible for humans to b-hop.

you didnt see shit i called him out on it and i called in blakc out because you dont even know what it is
I saw a lot of what happened so STFU.

[brett friggin favre]

from a convo with anex just now,

aNex <ibis>: I know for a fact you can still do it as a human

of course, "do it" refers to bhopping.

[anex]

BAN this asshole I saw the whole thing, this guy was hacking.

I unbanned him. Based on your response, you should consult others before claiming someone is hacking or read the guide that is listed here (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/244-How-to-find-hackers?)

http://i.imgur.com/uKYXuYd.gif

[B1ackOut]

This ban was a misunderstanding, it was my impression that bhopping was 100% impossible, and when player informs me that someone was bhopping, my first thought was he has to be scripting to some degree. I made the wrong decision and and banned him, even though I was not 100% sure he even was. Pcher, another admin who was in the server for awhile longer than me also said he was bhopping, so i watched and sure enough I seen some jumping that I did not think was possible anymore, however inconsistent.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

This ban was a misunderstanding, it was my impression that bhopping was 100% impossible, and when player informs me that someone was bhopping, my first thought was he has to be scripting to some degree. I made the wrong decision and and banned him, even though I was not 100% sure he even was. Pcher, another admin who was in the server for awhile longer than me also said he was bhopping, so i watched and sure enough I seen some jumping that I did not think was possible anymore, however inconsistent.

pcher is the cat, btw

[B1ackOut]

Oh I know its his ingame name which is why I used it as oppose to his forum name, because it is the one in the demo. My witnesses may have been Kenny and cat but that was 2 people who have had admin experience to some degree.

[anex]

Ignore Kenneth and give Cat a couple of months to learn the ins and outs before you rely on him as a credible source.

Shit happens. We know it was a misunderstanding. Branch out to ULA and CLan, that's what we are here for. Esp Hitman. Take all future concerns to him.

[thecat]

I unbanned him. Based on your response, you should consult others before claiming someone is hacking or read the guide that is listed here (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/244-How-to-find-hackers?)

http://i.imgur.com/uKYXuYd.gif
That link said nothing about b-hop hack.
I will make sure I call you in next time, sorry.

[anex]

BAN this asshole I saw the whole thing, this guy was hacking.

I was talking about this.

[brett friggin favre]

just tossed up a thread on this issue so this sort of misunderstanding doesn't happen again, or to at least minimize the likelihood of it happening again.

http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/10504-Bhop-Scripting-and-how-to-spot-it

[thecat]

Thanks for making the thread.

[CYBER]

Soooo... did I miss all the action?
Since we have both Brett and Anex's votes for NO,
and the fact that Anex unbanned wasabi.
And the fact that the banning admin himself fell back on his decision,
im gonna go with the assumption that this thread has been handled.

So ima gonna close the shit out of it.

Gd thread brett, read it people to avoid mistakes like this again.