Reward the winners.

[thecat]

On ze maps the main challenge is to beat the map so why not get a point for doing so.
I suggest that we give players one point for completing the map so people get scored on how well they do on the map not on how many zombies they kill.
I think that this is a good idea because CSS already does it with objectives on the bomb game mode.

[brett friggin favre]

you only get point rewards from bomb explosions/defuses, not hostage rescues.

[thecat]

Fixed and edited.

[StarsMine]

you only get point rewards from bomb explosions/defuses, not hostage rescues.
You get shit tons of money for it however.

[brett friggin favre]

You get shit tons of money for it however.

valid point but it has no effect on zm obviously.

[Bane of Soldiers]

Don't you already get at least 20 for winning? It's been a while since I played ZE... but in the past, if I'm not doing something in another window, I typically track the higher kdr players in ZE because they are either interesting or suspicious. To figure kill count leaders and not plain scoreboard leaders, I assume that all players have won the map as a human; subtract their score by 20 x ct wins and divide by deaths. Although I think you can get 20 through other means, like on deathstar.


And if I can recall correctly, there was a stats allocation rework that rewards players (via psychostats, not in game score) for being on the winning team for all maps. I think ZE was the motive for it. I'm too lazy to search up the thread, and at least current and future ZE players have this concession.

[kenneth918237]

you get bonus points for surviving a round 20 on escape and around 10 on zm when you start ass a noob

[Meltdown]

We already get enough.

[thecat]

you get bonus points for surviving a round 20 on escape and around 10 on zm when you start ass a noob
Anything else I should know?

[brett friggin favre]

Anything else I should know?

why, yes. yes there is.

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Merriam-Webster_dictionary.jpg

I CAN ONLY RESIST SO GODDAMN LONG. I'M ONLY HUMAN.

[thecat]

why, yes. yes there is.

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Merriam-Webster_dictionary.jpg

I CAN ONLY RESIST SO GODDAMN LONG. I'M ONLY HUMAN.
I would like to see the thread that bane is talking about.
I have seen you make many typo and I have not called you out because I am not a dick, so stop being such a hypocrite.

[jwtemp]

Hey thecat, friendly advice from a fellow forum goer - rather than take their jests and insults incredulously, you should open your arms and embrace their japes. That's how you take their power away - by ending their game and trying to cuddle with them.

Although if you take this advice, I have a feeling people are going to be disappointed that they no longer get to make massive amounts of fun of you. :smirk:

[brett friggin favre]

frankly jwtemp the best way for him to stop this nonsense is to stop posting until his brain is fully developed.

[jwtemp]

Normally I'd just let the forum flame wars rage, but I read somewhere that thecat really is a kid (I think I read he's in middle school?) so I took some pity on him. I have a soft spot for awkward, angsty and socially under developed kids. I used to be one of them not all that long ago, after all. I also enjoy the luxury of having not dealt with him for the length of time you guys have.

[Dj panda]

Hes in elementary school temp...... Or at least he tries to deny it :P

[Meltdown]

We should blame his parents for not keeping there credit card at hand. such a shame.

[thecat]

We should blame his parents for not keeping there credit card at hand. such a shame.
You should go back on topic because I really really want to go back to discussing this.
I don't want to turn this into another flame war.
Meltdown can we please act like adults and get back on topic.

[Chef C Green]

I would like to see the thread that bane is talking about.

Search engines are our friends ^.^ (or just perusing the old threads to see what's been brought up already).

But to save time: ZMod Stats Rework (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/9557-ZM-Stats-Rework)

[thecat]

Search engines are our friends ^.^ (or just perusing the old threads to see what's been brought up already).

But to save time: ZMod Stats Rework (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/9557-ZM-Stats-Rework)
Yes but where do these bonus points go.
Do they go to your KDR or somewhere else.
If they don't go to the KDR they should go to the KDR.
I can't be the forum bitch if I have not been an admin since the last rewards, right?

[phil.™]

Yes but where do these bonus points go.
Do they go to your KDR or somewhere else.
If they don't go to the KDR they should go to the KDR.
I can't be the forum bitch if I have not been an admin since the last rewards, right?

Why are you so obsessed with KDR or rank? Just have fun with the server/map man. Some maps, you advance to the next/harder level, and the achievement of beating it should be enough man. Stop being a rank whore.

It's the teamwork that IBIS is building that should be the achievement, not the skills gain.
#justsaying #ibisgaming #followitbitches

[thecat]

Why are you so obsessed with KDR or rank? Just have fun with the server/map man. Some maps, you advance to the next/harder level, and the achievement of beating it should be enough man. Stop being a rank whore.

It's the teamwork that IBIS is building that should be the achievement, not the skills gain.
#justsaying #ibisgaming #followitbitches
When I say that I am very good at ze than I want to be able to back it.
Team work is what you should do to get that higher KDR, I would like the points to go to KDR so you WILL be judged on your teamwork not on how many secrets you know, how many zombies you kill.

[phil.™]

When I say that I am very good at ze than I want to be able to back it.
Team work is what you should do to get that higher KDR, I would like the points to go to KDR so you WILL be judged on your teamwork not on how many secrets you know, how many zombies you kill.

Have you ever shot out milk through your nose because something was fucking hilarious? Doesn't that shit hurt? Try shooting out beer through your nose while reading your posts in couple of years. That shit stings, but man was it worth it just now...
You my good child, you are funny. You are fucking historical.

By the way, you have not won IBIS forum bitch 2012 yet... But, I think you may have won being IBIS bitch. bitch #justsaying #ibisgaming #followbitches

[brett friggin favre]

yes yes yes to this suggestion. stats are the most important thing about zm. stats mean everything. btdubs you're off to a great start with that 0.47 kdr, cowboy. yeeeeeeee fuckin ha.

[Bane of Soldiers]

KDR is a kill to death ratio. In essence, you are suggesting that KDR should be raised for activities for which no kills are being gained. Yeah... we have a winner.

[thecat]

KDR is a kill to death ratio. In essence, you are suggesting that KDR should be raised for activities for which no kills are being gained. Yeah... we have a winner.
Setting up a bomb is an activate, so why not do that with completing a map.
But fuck it nothing will be done anyway.

[Bane of Soldiers]

Setting up a bomb is an activate, so why not do that with completing a map.
But fuck it nothing will be done anyway.

I think those three points you gain for the bomb are not counted towards KDR... not sure, don't really care either way. And if that's what's tearing you up inside, we already let you know that you get 20 points on the scoreboard for successful escapes. Not 20 kills, 20 points. If you want a nice, big KDR for your eighth grade ego, I suggest you play better. Not beg for handouts like this.


I don't even understand why I try to get through this skull... >_>

[Nemesis]

In ZM there are no winners, just annoying children and shitty, cunt-faced admins.

[Meltdown]

Phil is right zm is about fun nothing more nothing less.

[thecat]

I think those three points you gain for the bomb are not counted towards KDR... not sure, don't really care either way. And if that's what's tearing you up inside, we already let you know that you get 20 points on the scoreboard for successful escapes. Not 20 kills, 20 points. If you want a nice, big KDR for your eighth grade ego, I suggest you play better. Not beg for handouts like this.


I don't even understand why I try to get through this skull... >_>
20 points that go where?

[Bane of Soldiers]

It is there to distinguish those who have lived to escape recently. Also there to fill egos and motivate others.

[thecat]

It is there to distinguish those who have lived to escape recently. Also there to fill egos and motivate others.
Could you just give me a link to where these points go.

[Chef C Green]

Here is where stats are shown: PsychoStats (http://www.ibisgaming.com/zm_stats/index.php)

But you're missing the picture... no one cares about your rank/KDR/kills with a certain gun/how many times you won an escape map. You won't win anyone's affection or admiration because you can run through voodoo island 90% of the time. It's merely a way to show your progress, for your own benefit, not to wave it around like it actually means something to others. My advice: Live in the moment, enjoy wins/kills when you get them, and if you're gonna go out; go out with a bang :smirk:

[B1ackOut]

The points you get for completing the objective in zm/ze take effect more in the skill on your psycostats page, not so much in-game. This skill is where your rank comes from, and seeing as most bonus points in maps like the special 1000 in atix do not effect this rank, the scoreboard literally means nothing. The only maps you should even care at all about KDR is zm maps, where the objective IS the kill zombies and survive.

[Bane of Soldiers]

Thank you Blackout, thank you Chef; I guess I gave him too much credit when I assumed he knew what the stats page was and what skill points are

[thecat]

The points you get for completing the objective in zm/ze take effect more in the skill on your psycostats page, not so much in-game. This skill is where your rank comes from, and seeing as most bonus points in maps like the special 1000 in atix do not effect this rank, the scoreboard literally means nothing. The only maps you should even care at all about KDR is zm maps, where the objective IS the kill zombies and survive.
Finally, now I know where the points go thanks.