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[SupermanTM]

Hey,

So first of all lots of map changes by admins over the past few weeks i have been playing here.

One person might complain about a map, the admin would just change the map to Roy the ship, Desert, or 420 beach strike. The problem with this is that there was no !vote called to see if majority wants a map change. As well the maps are always ZM and always the above 3 overplayed maps which the GMs prefer. This is fine if it's once or twice, but i've seen admins changing maps for three hours straight sometimes in the evenings. Likewise at least three times we won a map vote and there was interest by the majority to play that map, and suddenly we arrived at Desert, Roy, or Beach strike instead. Just this Saturday or Friday nominations and RTV were disabled for a map or two.

Now i think Admins feel they are paying 11$ and they can change maps whenever they want. If that's the case then it's your rules, your server. But you should altogether remove nominate and RTV. Otherwise why have it there if the server is not for the people? You could just have an admin map day. Like Friday Nights admins can change maps all day to whatever they want.

Also i was just banned by Ledgeby, for talking back. But he was talking about ghosting with mic to another person. And all i said was it's not ghosting if 1 zombie knows where you are. Since your location is known already you can't be hiding. This is not talking back as he never told me to do something and i refused. He never said stop breaking a rule, and i argued with him. As i wasn't breaking any rules. I was just talking in general about ghosting. Not even about his situation.

Anyway i could just buy admin, and change maps to whatever i want, and avoid rage bans. Though i am sure this is why you allow map changes nonstop by admins, it makes you money as everyone gets annoyed and buys admin to counter other admins poor map choices. I heard Wookie bought admin to avoid being slapped around, but that's heresy anyway.

An unrelated idea was to remove RTV, and just make it so a map has to be won 3 times by humans, before a map list comes up and the map changes. (Most maps are boring after 3 rounds anyway, and some take 6 rounds to win 3 times) so it balances out.

[Xerenix]

Now i think Admins feel they are paying 11$ and they can change maps whenever they want. If that's the case then it's your rules, your server. But you should altogether remove nominate and RTV. Otherwise why have it there if the server is not for the people? You could just have an admin map day. Like Friday Nights admins can change maps all day to whatever they want.


Nominate and RTV is there for when a admin isn't on so removing it is useless.


Hey,


Also i was just banned by Ledgeby, for talking back. But he was talking about ghosting with mic to another person. And all i said was it's not ghosting if 1 zombie knows where you are. Since your location is known already you can't be hiding. This is not talking back as he never told me to do something and i refused. He never said stop breaking a rule, and i argued with him. As i wasn't breaking any rules. I was just talking in general about ghosting. Not even about his situation.


This is where you are wrong, it's still ghosting even if the players location is known to everyone. If you feel he abused his admin powers(which in my opinion, he didn't) then go ahead and make a abuse thread with proof.



Anyway i could just buy admin, and change maps to whatever i want, and avoid rage bans.

You could but i wouldn't advice it since just by reading this post, my guess is that you won't keep it very long.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Hey,

So first of all lots of map changes by admins over the past few weeks i have been playing here.

One person might complain about a map, the admin would just change the map to Roy the ship, Desert, or 420 beach strike. The problem with this is that there was no !vote called to see if majority wants a map change. As well the maps are always ZM and always the above 3 overplayed maps which the GMs prefer. This is fine if it's once or twice, but i've seen admins changing maps for three hours straight sometimes in the evenings. Likewise at least three times we won a map vote and there was interest by the majority to play that map, and suddenly we arrived at Desert, Roy, or Beach strike instead. Just this Saturday or Friday nominations and RTV were disabled for a map or two.

Now i think Admins feel they are paying 11$ and they can change maps whenever they want. If that's the case then it's your rules, your server. But you should altogether remove nominate and RTV. Otherwise why have it there if the server is not for the people? You could just have an admin map day. Like Friday Nights admins can change maps all day to whatever they want.

Also i was just banned by Ledgeby, for talking back. But he was talking about ghosting with mic to another person. And all i said was it's not ghosting if 1 zombie knows where you are. Since your location is known already you can't be hiding. This is not talking back as he never told me to do something and i refused. He never said stop breaking a rule, and i argued with him. As i wasn't breaking any rules. I was just talking in general about ghosting. Not even about his situation.

Anyway i could just buy admin, and change maps to whatever i want, and avoid rage bans.

the admin who has been on the server the longest retains the right to choose which maps we go to. that is how it has always been done. there is no rule regarding giving players a choice or a vote. too many ZM's? zm maps are really the only good ones.

and as far as ghosting goes, it doesn't matter if one zombie knows. dead players still cannot give information to living ones, unless EVERY single living zombie already knows where the people are.

[Bane of Soldiers]

Hey,
So first of all lots of map changes by admins over the past few weeks i have been playing here.

One person might complain about a map, the admin would just change the map to Roy the ship, Desert, or 420 beach strike. The problem with this is that there was no !vote called to see if majority wants a map change. As well the maps are always ZM and always the above 3 overplayed maps which the GMs prefer. This is fine if it's once or twice, but i've seen admins changing maps for three hours straight sometimes in the evenings. Likewise at least three times we won a map vote and there was interest by the majority to play that map, and suddenly we arrived at Desert, Roy, or Beach strike instead. Just this Saturday or Friday nominations and RTV were disabled for a map or two.

Now i think Admins feel they are paying 11$ and they can change maps whenever they want. If that's the case then it's your rules, your server. But you should altogether remove nominate and RTV. Otherwise why have it there if the server is not for the people? You could just have an admin map day. Like Friday Nights admins can change maps all day to whatever they want.
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Anyway i could just buy admin, and change maps to whatever i want, and avoid rage bans. Though i am sure this is why you allow map changes nonstop by admins, it makes you money as everyone gets annoyed and buys admin to counter other admins poor map choices. I heard Wookie bought admin to avoid being slapped around, but that's heresy anyway.

Senior admin (the admin that has been in server the longest or any clan member) retains the right to change the map, regardless of what the players or admins that connect to the server later think. Provided that map changes are not rapid, as in several times within a short span of time, though. They are allowed to change it "nonstop" in the sense that they can essentially establish a queue of maps (as long as they stay in server), but stay on each map for most, if not, it's entire run.

Your suggestion to remove rtv and nomination because "why have it there if the server is not for the people" sounds like whining and bitching rather than legitimate advice. In the case that it is the former, then you can go fuck yourself because no one likes whiny bitches and their tears. Your suggestion is unreasonable and bad. What if there is no admin in server, and no one wants to play the current map. And what if there is an admin, but they don't want to exercise their powers? So please, just stop.

In the case that you do buy admin, changing the map when you are not senior admin and other abusive behavior can lead to your admin rights revoked, without any refunds. Contrary to what you believe, some admins have their hands tied tighter than some of the players do. Follow the rules; don't get high on the immunity from most admins, because the warnings issued to abusive admins scale much faster than those issued to regular players. But it sounds like you aren't serious about subscribing, and are just qq'ing again. Sucks to suck.


Also i was just banned by Ledgeby, for talking back. But he was talking about ghosting with mic to another person. And all i said was it's not ghosting if 1 zombie knows where you are. Since your location is known already you can't be hiding. This is not talking back as he never told me to do something and i refused. He never said stop breaking a rule, and i argued with him. As i wasn't breaking any rules. I was just talking in general about ghosting. Not even about his situation.

From what I'm reading, you weren't the ghoster and was trying to argue the definition of ghosting. Although your definition of ghosting is wrong, if you feel that you were not treated properly by admin Ledgeby, you may visit the admin abuse section of the forums and follow the stickies and procedure carefully. Investigation, verdict, and (possibly) punishment will not be carried out unless you do your part. Discussing it outside of the admin abuse section and without adequate proof is a waste of breath and annoying



An unrelated idea was to remove RTV, and just make it so a map has to be won 3 times by humans, before a map list comes up and the map changes. (Most maps are boring after 3 rounds anyway, and some take 6 rounds to win 3 times) so it balances out.
Entirely subjective. Most opinions will differ from yours.

[anex]

Just this Saturday or Friday nominations and RTV were disabled for a map or two.

Who the fuck did that? RTV should never be disabled. Ever. We'll yank admin map privileges for that. Was there at anytime RTV votes being cancelled?

Admins, don't ever let me catch you pull that shit.

[SupermanTM]

^Sarcasm?

Yes Nomination and RTV were both disabled. Commands didn't work. Not making it up. Not here to get people 'punished' or i would have listed names of the map changers etc. NOT sure who did it, or which admin was on, i already forgot what day it was, but it was just a few days ago. Just letting you know it did happen.

My ban was for less than 30 minutes, so not as big a deal, was more curious on peoples thoughts. Through inference, i gathered that talking back is one way to get banned, as that was the reason given before i was banned. But pretty much i was banned for having a different opinion on a rule. But yeah it's not important enough for an abuse ticket. Thanks for the information though.

In the future if i do want to provide proof for anything. Isn't there server logs? Wouldn't i just need exact time an event happened? i don't use a mic currently. Otherwise for in game proof i suppose i would use a video recorder.

How is senior admin determined? First admin logged in? Or longest time as an admin? Or is it a promoted/given position?

[B1ackOut]

^Sarcasm?

Yes Nomination and RTV were both disabled. Commands didn't work. Not making it up. Not here to get people 'punished' or i would have listed names of the map changers etc. NOT sure who did it, or which admin was on, i already forgot what day it was, but it was just a few days ago. Just letting you know it did happen.

My ban was for less than 30 minutes, so not as big a deal, was more curious on peoples thoughts. Through inference, i gathered that talking back is one way to get banned, as that was the reason given before i was banned. But pretty much i was banned for having a different opinion on a rule. But yeah it's not important enough for an abuse ticket. Thanks for the information though.

In the future if i do want to provide proof for anything. Isn't there server logs? Wouldn't i just need exact time an event happened? i don't use a mic currently. Otherwise for in game proof i suppose i would use a video recorder.

How is senior admin determined? First admin logged in? Or longest time as an admin? Or is it a promoted/given position?

Rtv and nominate have been know to fail before I have seen it and all it takes is a mapchange to fix. Senior is chosen by time on the server, unless a clan member (has <ibis> as tag not <ibis.a>) comes on which would cause them to be the senior admin. As to the constant map changing, when does this happen? Sure I may not play as much as I used to, but I pop my head in every few days but I rarely see any admin use powers to change the map, rapidly or not.

Also zm maps will forever be superior to ze maps.

[Omegxkid]

Hey,

So first of all lots of map changes by admins over the past few weeks i have been playing here.

One person might complain about a map, the admin would just change the map to Roy the ship, Desert, or 420 beach strike. The problem with this is that there was no !vote called to see if majority wants a map change. As well the maps are always ZM and always the above 3 overplayed maps which the GMs prefer. This is fine if it's once or twice, but i've seen admins changing maps for three hours straight sometimes in the evenings. Likewise at least three times we won a map vote and there was interest by the majority to play that map, and suddenly we arrived at Desert, Roy, or Beach strike instead. Just this Saturday or Friday nominations and RTV were disabled for a map or two.

Now i think Admins feel they are paying 11$ and they can change maps whenever they want. If that's the case then it's your rules, your server. But you should altogether remove nominate and RTV. Otherwise why have it there if the server is not for the people? You could just have an admin map day. Like Friday Nights admins can change maps all day to whatever they want.

Also i was just banned by Ledgeby, for talking back. But he was talking about ghosting with mic to another person. And all i said was it's not ghosting if 1 zombie knows where you are. Since your location is known already you can't be hiding. This is not talking back as he never told me to do something and i refused. He never said stop breaking a rule, and i argued with him. As i wasn't breaking any rules. I was just talking in general about ghosting. Not even about his situation.

Anyway i could just buy admin, and change maps to whatever i want, and avoid rage bans. Though i am sure this is why you allow map changes nonstop by admins, it makes you money as everyone gets annoyed and buys admin to counter other admins poor map choices. I heard Wookie bought admin to avoid being slapped around, but that's heresy anyway.

An unrelated idea was to remove RTV, and just make it so a map has to be won 3 times by humans, before a map list comes up and the map changes. (Most maps are boring after 3 rounds anyway, and some take 6 rounds to win 3 times) so it balances out. supermanTm- (Also i was just banned by Ledgeby, for talking back,) this is not at all what or who ban u I was the one that Ban u for 10 min because after u were kicked for talking out agains the admins who told someone to stop ghosting, u then came back in and fallowed up by crying about being kicked when you were asked to stop talking back, then you just keeped on and i even gave u a fair 2 warrnings and u did not stop, so u got a 10 min ban, plz if you are going to cry and rant about something tell the full story not just some and have all your facts in oder, also we almost 100% of the time do map votes and or will post up a vote to see what maps people want, the only time a map is changed is when people are all bitching about how bad it is thats about the only time i ever see a map change without some kind of vote.

[Bane of Soldiers]

^Sarcasm?

Yes Nomination and RTV were both disabled. Commands didn't work. Not making it up. Not here to get people 'punished' or i would have listed names of the map changers etc. NOT sure who did it, or which admin was on, i already forgot what day it was, but it was just a few days ago. Just letting you know it did happen.

My ban was for less than 30 minutes, so not as big a deal, was more curious on peoples thoughts. Through inference, i gathered that talking back is one way to get banned, as that was the reason given before i was banned. But pretty much i was banned for having a different opinion on a rule. But yeah it's not important enough for an abuse ticket. Thanks for the information though.

In the future if i do want to provide proof for anything. Isn't there server logs? Wouldn't i just need exact time an event happened? i don't use a mic currently. Otherwise for in game proof i suppose i would use a video recorder.

How is senior admin determined? First admin logged in? Or longest time as an admin? Or is it a promoted/given position?

Yes, the first. Senior admin is the admin who connects to the server first and thus the admin that has been in-server the longest. It is not based on whether you have had an older admin subscription. In the case of after-a-map-change and the occasional server crash, the previous senior admin retains his/her privilege. Sometimes, a senior admin may delegate this privilege to another. Admins who have been afk for a while lose it and the next admin in line obtains it. Clan members may also claim senior admin rights when they play, if they so wish.

It can't hurt to save a personal account of things imo, but Source TV records demos 24/7: http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/6434-Links-to-Demos
The map names, dates, and times (in EST I think, haven't used it in a while) are all listed from oldest (top) to newest (bottom). Should be noted that old demos are deleted over time, and you should not expect to find demos older than 5 days.

In the case that a user is actually "talking back" and not trying to sort things out, punishment typically scales: warning, short mute/gag, longer mute/gag or kick, and then ban if the user persists. That's how I did it anyway.

From my experience, rtv and nominate can be rather fickle, and as Blackout said, will fail at times. I don't have a large sample size to base this off of, but I think that if an admin sets the next map in queue, either through vote or console command, rtv and nomination will not work. That is why I like to find out what maps people want to play next and then use a set map, change map, or map vote command when the map nears ending, rather than deciding and setting what everyone will play next before round one ends.

[jwtemp]

Who the fuck did that? RTV should never be disabled. Ever. We'll yank admin map privileges for that. Was there at anytime RTV votes being cancelled?

Admins, don't ever let me catch you pull that shit.

I've definitely seen admins flat out cancel RTVs before after choosing a map basically only they wanted to play. Should this be reported in the future as admin abuse?

[SupermanTM]

Ah well thanks for all this feedback.

So whats the difference between a clan member? and an admin? Who are the clan members how did they generally get to be clan members? Just been around a long time?

I said that i've been playing the past few weeks, but on this Steam account i started in 2010 according to the server. It's a new steam account because my old one i lost the password to, think it was hacked. So i likely started on IBIS before that, but unsure of the exact dates, maybe 2008 makes sense. So i hope there is no offense taken as in: this guy started yesterday and has opinions. lol

As for talking back, Omega it's fine i agree with you.

Why would you say ZM is superior? Most people run to the same spot, in which the cade is so strong you could just AFK there and win. Of course you wont get any kills. It's either a crushed crate in which you can put a vending machine (or a vending machine spawns). Someone should remove the 2 vending machines that spawn inside the crushed red container from zm lila panic beach..that container is way overpowered. i don't know it just seems that every map has 1 or 2 cade spots which are impregnable by zombies, unless the humans inside don't know how to cade it, or destroy it with a grenade. (many are actually grenade proof.. )

All these maps could be edited to make them slightly more challenging for humans. Otherwise on ZM most of the challenge is for zombies, or noob players. ZM might have been the best 5 years ago. But now when you have players who know the maps, and played for so long it's better to make the maps slightly harder for humans. (there are some hard ZM maps) but they are rarely played on. I usually run to the hardest to cade spots, while one guy will run to same room/vent every round and get 20 kills.. then he brags he has more skill than me. LOL i dunno..

Ze is way more random, everyone has a chance to die, noobs make things unpredictable, you need more teamwork on a grander scale. When the zombies are good, you really need to defend as there is no unstoppable cade to prevent you from dying. You can't AFK during a whole round. Etc. For me skill is equal to the amount of risk you take, and if you survive while doing it. If you take no risks you basically have no skills.

I'm not saying ZE is better, just that ZM could be improved. I chose IBIS for so many years because you have both ZE and ZM. Otherwise id just play a ZE server.


Was there at anytime RTV votes being cancelled?

Cancelled? Like a map was already chosen? And the admin just changes map without warning? Yes, happened once. We were at the end of voodoo, making votes for next map. It was 14 for Parking, and 13 for another escape map. We won the parking vote. Corpsman changed the map to ZM Desert fortress. Not saying this to get him in trouble, just if you guys decide its dumb maybe you could talk to the admins and let them know not to cancel votes? You guys already said admins can change map to whatever they want, so i am confused.

By changing maps, the admins usually just change the map, wait for the maps full time to end. Then they choose the next map. So it's not rapid map changing. It's just 3 hours while admins are on no one really has a say in what map to play.

[Omegxkid]

So a clan member is no longer just an admin they are uperlevel admin and part of the IBIS family they can make the call to permaban someone on the forums, tell uper/lower lvl admins what they need to stop doing and or can do to be better admins, Uper lvl admin are basicly ClanMembers in traning they have permanban right on the forums after reviewing videos just like Clan and can again ask other admins to stop doing things they should not, then there is normal admin we only have the right to help people in times of need and or take a matter into our hands if there is someone getting out of hand on the server or hacking/scriping we are more like the haul monitors for the big boysNgirls just to help them because they are not as many as we. I hope this helps bro also u have been with us for a good some of time so if you could plz go back to how u were and just stop trolling/harassing people man i know u are better then this.

[maynard]

On the main page of the forums at the bottom next 2 the "mark forums read" button, there is another that says "view site leaders" click that, scroll down 2 the section titled "IBIS" everyone in that list is clan.

admins are community regulars who just end up purchasing admin rights.... anyone can purchase it.

2 become part of the clan, you must first make an app in the clan app section.... and after on average of 2-4 years... you might get in... but probably wont as we only take a couple people once every year or two. The clan have full power over the community basically... we're people who've been around a very long time, and help run this place and enforce the rules and make sure everything is running smoothly between the servers and forums. Clan can do whatever they want and only answer 2 zero, as where admins, community regulars, ULA's etc. all answer 2 the clan.

crying about admins changing maps is pointless... it's how we do things in this community and always have... and always will.

if an admin is changing maps for hours on end and hijacking the map rotation.... fine that's something worth complaining about... but when maps are changed here and there, it's fine.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Cancelled? Like a map was already chosen? And the admin just changes map without warning? Yes, happened once. We were at the end of voodoo, making votes for next map. It was 14 for Parking, and 13 for another escape map. We won the parking vote. Corpsman changed the map to ZM Desert fortress. Not saying this to get him in trouble, just if you guys decide its dumb maybe you could talk to the admins and let them know not to cancel votes? You guys already said admins can change map to whatever they want, so i am confused.

By changing maps, the admins usually just change the map, wait for the maps full time to end. Then they choose the next map. So it's not rapid map changing. It's just 3 hours while admins are on no one really has a say in what map to play.

this is very different than cancelling an RTV. the admin can decide which map to go to next, and if towards the end of the map, the normal vote comes up and the admin doesn't like the choices, they can cancel it and either put their own vote up, or simply set the next map.

[Bane of Soldiers]

this is very different than cancelling an RTV. the admin can decide which map to go to next, and if towards the end of the map, the normal vote comes up and the admin doesn't like the choices, they can cancel it and either put their own vote up, or simply set the next map.

^This

If the map vote was brought up by a successful rtv, then we have issues; granted, if no one likes the maps on the rtv list because people forget to nominate, I guess it would be alright.

[SupermanTM]

Okay i am slightly confused..

But there are two separate situations, WHICH happened at least once.

Situation One: (happened only once to my knowledge)
RTV and Nominate no longer worked. People typed, them, and said wtf why isn't it working? Then maybe 5 minutes later we were at a new map. (yes likely could have been a bug, like someone already mentioned)

Situation Two:
We were on voodoo islands, Map vote came up, majority chose parking, admin map changed and we arrived at Desert. And a bunch of us were wtf were is parking? But then we just played desert. So yeah since the vote was 14 for parking and 13 for something else, you can argue 50% of the server didn't like parking so it was alright for admin to change to desert. But i think people who voted parking wanted to play it. I know that i did. (again it only happened once or twice). So it's not like raging abuse or anything. Just annoying when it does happen.

Otherwise, like i said it's not rapid map changing. When corpsman is online he will go through a series of the same maps. Desertfort, Roy, Beachstrike, Lila 420 maybe, and then Ze_Saw. So The maps are played in their entirety. Not bitching!!! Just re-iterating what happens usually.

Omega, i know i can be annoying, i've toned it down since you asked me to in game.

ONE more question, if i am dead or in spec, and i tell a player how to flip a vending machine or break a cade, is that ghosting? The player knows where the human is, is already there trying to break in etc. Similarly if i give advice on an escape map after dying on how to escape where to defend etc? Not allowed?

And on train escape, i escaped on the train, instead of going to the water tower. And all the humans at water tower died. I was last human alive. Train stopped, so there is no where i could continue escaping to. There was like 20 zombies alive, and only me as the human. Do i have to kill myself? or go and hunt the zombies? It's an escape map.. we aren't allowed to hunt zombies so it would be a contradiction in rules? Does that mean everyone has to wait 2 minutes until the clock runs out? Like i don't see why i need to kill myself for escaping.. Maybe fix the map? Is there a map editor? can i make or edit maps and submit them to zero or something with a list of changes?

[Cry_Wolf]

We do what we want!! Shut ur face and die in a fire! oh no the maps are changing!!!

[Omegxkid]

I can has fire burning all on me as i change the map Plox

[What]

It seems like ZM is the grade school wild west of the counterstrike world.

[SupermanTM]

Yeah yeah guys, i can troll too, likely better than you can. The problem is i don't want to get banned for my pixels and text. So i'll suggest things, you agree great, you don't agree i don't care. Not here to convince anyone to change their own server. Just here to throw out ideas. Doesn't mean i have to 'like' EVERY policy you guys have.

So some more suggestions.

I was thinking it would be nice if maps automatically go to VOTE after you win three rounds on them. This way if we are on a Super easy to win escape map like. Deathstar, Raccoon train, Rooftop escape, (to name a few shitty escape maps). Then after three wins, the map vote automatically comes up and we choose a new map. Similar there are many ZM maps which are ez, and therefore i consider shitty. Like the lila 420, where once you are behind that wall zombies can't get you. (This is not to say deathstar doesn't have cool graphics or sound effects - it's just one of those easy escape maps).

Also i was thinking, some maps like Voodoo Islands, yesterday were played 5 times or more. Zero could probably easily code something where if a map was played 2 to 3 times that day it stops showing up in the RTV map list, unless Nominated. (Just for that day).

Likewise, i find it annoying that i enter a game and the screen is black. So i enter and the map explodes and i die. Zero explained black screen is so there is no Ghosting. But can we get a time limit displayed on that black screen? So i at least know if i enter the game the map is about to explode and i'll die? This way i can wait until the round is over and then enter. Either that or prevent zombie spawns when there is 30 seconds left on round.

Also i'm wondering if someone can make it so All talk automatically comes on during ZE maps, and goes off during ZM maps. Because it's getting annoying when Admins aren't online that nothing can be done. Likewise we were doing some escape maps, and the time limit needed to be extended. The admin knew this, and left anyway. So we had to RTV and change maps. Either that or the admin isn't on to extend the time in the first place. OR, admins only stay to play the maps they want, and leave otherwise, so maps that require time limit extension are neglected. So i'm not sure what can be done to fix this. Of course you guys will say ?BUY admin and then you can extend maps. Because your here to make money. But how about i pay you 100$ to give all the different maps proper time limits so admins aren't needed? I'd prefer doing that, i don't want to be an admin.

[Bchhog]

This thread is quite entertaining no offense lol. I doubt you will get banned for sharing your opinion unless your extremely rude and spam it everywhere, and you should be aware that you'll get negative feedback so no surprise there. As for your suggestions to me they aren't needed because the current system works just fine. As the saying goes "If it's not broke don't fix it". The RTV and nominate system works on a majority rule, which works better than any automated system in my opinion.

When enough people get bored of a map it allows suggestions for new ones to be voted on. If all the people online at the time want to play voodoo for 3 hour straight they can lol. (I don't know why they would map is so repetitive.) As for the all talk automatically coming on, i would rather have it where it could be voted to be turned on somehow without external help. That being possible i have no idea, i don't know how the server works honestly. It has its purpose in being turned off sometimes, aka cuts back on the spam, and lag.

Personally i think the zm server is fine the way it is. Except for the trolls and idiots who plague it, which nothing can really be done about them as easily as making changes to the server. But then again i'm not that hard to please in the first place. That being said, ibis might not be your cup of tea and if it isn't then you should probably look elsewhere. Not to be rude, but i doubt they are going to change much if things have been working somewhat smoothly for as long as they have.

As i finish typing these three paragraphs i just noticed who started this thread lol. Knowing it's you superman it's probably half honest half troll xD. But i'll post it anyway since it cured my boredom for about 20-30 minutes.

[SupermanTM]

Can someone glitch you through an elevator? Swear it happened, Lachonariumm threw a grenade or was doing something to me. He always does shit. His previous name was Grammaton Cleric, he used to !block, on the Hell Escape Map, and people would jump down the tube, hit him, and die. He does all sorts of shit, wouldn't be surprised if he hacks when admins are not on.

His graphic for his doll was glitching too. Screenshot is here. The colors are all distorted (black patches etc) and it seemed to be vibrating whenever he moved.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=137827805

A vote for all talk sounds like a good idea.

Also if anything has a chance of changing, it's because of me. If the forums are a dead end, it will just be through the game, as my influence will eventually reach everyone. And i don't try, i just state things, and i'm pretty direct. People might rage and disagree, and then 2 years later come up with the same idea and call it their own. Either way things change eventually. Now or in 5 years, doesn't really matter when.

[phil.™]

Can someone glitch you through an elevator? Swear it happened, Lachonariumm threw a grenade or was doing something to me. He always does shit. His previous name was Grammaton Cleric, he used to !block, on the Hell Escape Map, and people would jump down the tube, hit him, and die. He does all sorts of shit, wouldn't be surprised if he hacks when admins are not on.

His graphic for his doll was glitching too. Screenshot is here. The colors are all distorted (black patches etc) and it seemed to be vibrating whenever he moved.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=137827805

A vote for all talk sounds like a good idea.

Also if anything has a chance of changing, it's because of me. If the forums are a dead end, it will just be through the game, as my influence will eventually reach everyone. And i don't try, i just state things, and i'm pretty direct. People might rage and disagree, and then 2 years later come up with the same idea and call it their own. Either way things change eventually. Now or in 5 years, doesn't really matter when.

Cool story bro, tell it again.

As for lach, he's a troll like anyone else. Shit happens, and nade glitching does happen and it kills few people. If he does it again, get a demo, and post in the temp bans http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/74-User-Temp-Ban-Requests
As for the !block command, I highly doubt this is recent, due to the fact the !block command has been disabled from the server completely.

As for your suggestions, keep 'em coming pal. Suggestions do not hurt. Just don't ramble on about a damn map being over played or someone killing you.

[SupermanTM]

Bleh, who cares about getting killed or dying. Did i say "Wah he killed me" No. I said "Wah he did something he's probably not supposed to do" Where is an admin when you need one? Oh probably on forums telling me to make a demo.

But anyway. He's not a troll. Breaking rules, abusing powers, or actions that harm others, is called Griefing. He is a griefer. Trolls don't need to cade break to piss people off, or to ban them, or to do anything really other than type. That is a troll. And i've been banned from various places just for my pixels, for text, for my opinion.

Just today Lachon was cade breaking. Don't know why daily he feels the need to shit on the server rules.

[phil.™]

I have not yet seen a demo from you...
http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/10829-crazybiker009-shook.-4-8-2013-10-30-PM-STEAM_0-0-56867801-STEAM_0-0-1752762?p=157512#post157512
If you post a demo in the temp ban section, admin's will do something, take a look at the link above, crazybiker009 and shook got a 2-3 day ban for cade breaking. Lach has a previous history, I'm sure he'll get a good couple days ban if you properly post it.

Stop bitching about admin's not being on all the time, admin's do have a life outside of counter-strike. Buy admin if you're sick of people breaking rules. It's only $11/month.

[Steamer]

You're all wrong. An RTV can be cancelled and the senior admin can play whatever the hell they want as long as they aren't rapidly changing the map. This is a perk of purchasing admin. Can it sometimes be an assholish thing to do (Especially if the server is full and having fun...), yes, but those type of people seem to get cut out anyway after time.

If an admin is abusing or a player griefing, post it in the appropriate section in the appropriate form.

/ Close.