Gator ibis.a/ Resolution ibis.a

[Locust]

Admin's INGAME name: Gator ibis.a (aka resolution)
You're INGAME name: Locust ibis.a
Server: WCS
Map: vertigo and cpl_mill
Date & Time: march 7 around 3 pm est

How did he/she abuse:See attached text file and demos


Proof:
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[|2esolution]

When I asked him to do objective in Vertigo and he said "FUCK YOU" to me. I'll be glad to answer any more silly questions you have Locust lol

[Locust]

I did my research watched the entire demo. It's all in the text file you didn't read.

[Grits]

<3 you reso, but while being there I think you overreacted a good bit. QQ (BlackEagle) asked(told) you to stfu because he was the last one alive and couldn't hear. You said, "Tell me to stfu again" and all that puffery nonsense... to which, he then said FU.

I think it got blown WAAAAY out of proportion, but sometimes a chill pill is better than a fight. I had to leave because I couldn't hear ANYTHING b/c you and others kept on and on and on!

[HK5150]

I was there before both Reso and Locust got on and I was there during this whole ordeal. Because of that I figure I should write something down. As you view the demo you will see various amounts of admin chat that was really just off point. Some spilled over into the game and that just sucks. Most stayed in admin chat though so the server just got a little quiter and most people stayed playing, oblivious to what was going on. From my point of view, Resolution was quick to jump on the disrespect aspect of it. That being said, he did give Blackeagle several warnings and Black just wasn't catching on. When Locust came on there was some tension going on between Reso and Black and it just went downhill from there. I had dropped into spec for a few moments and Reso put in a mapchange assuming he was senior. I showed him later on that he should make sure we aren't there and we wroked that out no worries but I think that conversation might have agitated him. Now, if you look at all the admin chat you are going to see some tense dialouge from Reso w/ both Locust and myself. I can only assume that the whole "not-smoking" thing is taking its toll on Reso. I like Reso. He jokes, laughs, and tries to make a good go for everyone to have a good time. I do think that he was just over the top today. That's my 2-cents worth from what I experienced today. I'll continue to review this thread to make sure there isn't anything else that might need clarification. As always, I wish you guys/gals well. Be Good!!!

~HK

[Assassin]

Fyi if you aren't wearing your tag...you aren't senior.

[HK5150]

Fyi if you aren't wearing your tag...you aren't senior.

I am not sure if you mean me Assassin but I haven't adjusted my tag since October when I joined up w/ IBIS. So that wasn't an issue. While Resolution was under an alias of 'Gator", he had his tag on that name as well. Just fyi...

[Assassin]

I meant for the part where someone said he thought he was senior admin.

[Locust]

Fyi if you aren't wearing your tag...you aren't senior.
I'm pretty that I'm one of the only admins that rarely tags up but then again my admin is gonna be gone soon so I'll just be playing like a regular again ;)

[HK5150]

As Locust said, he was the only one not tagged up. Both Reso and myself were. I already linked the appropriate post for Reso to review. We worked it out together no worries.

[|2esolution]

He was not telling me to shut up because he was last one alive demo clearly shows that. Enough drama demo shows everything. dude was warned muted kicked i was within rights as admin per the admin abuse the rules dont change because of how anyone else sees it.

[Locust]

He was not telling me to shut up because he was last one alive demo clearly shows that. Enough drama demo shows everything. dude was warned muted kicked i was within rights as admin per the admin abuse the rules dont change because of how anyone else sees it.

Goddamn read the damn text file. IN IT I SAID that I agreed with your first kick of him. If you're going to argue against claims made against you, you really should be reading them.

[|2esolution]

This post isn't by the player you are accusing me of abusing. As a matter of fact the player you accused me of abusing came back and apoligized in the server. You got your nose stuck in something you weren't even in the server for because your a little bitch. You have nothing better to do than start bs like this over nothing. I am a grown man and I'm not going to argue with your stupidity. Last comment I have to make on it.

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Read the fucking TOS and tell me what exactly I did wrong before you post you fucking moron.

[Locust]

This post isn't by the player you are accusing me of abusing. As a matter of fact the player you accused me of abusing came back and apoligized in the server. You got your nose stuck in something you weren't even in the server for because your a little bitch. You have nothing better to do than start bs like this over nothing. I am a grown man and I'm not going to argue with your stupidity. Last comment I have to make on it.

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Read the fucking TOS and tell me what exactly I did wrong before you post you fucking moron.

I did. In game. You didn't listen to me. I told you what I would do if you didn't and here we are.

[Erdenay]

This post isn't by the player you are accusing me of abusing. As a matter of fact the player you accused me of abusing came back and apoligized in the server. You got your nose stuck in something you weren't even in the server for because your a little bitch. You have nothing better to do than start bs like this over nothing. I am a grown man and I'm not going to argue with your stupidity. Last comment I have to make on it.

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Read the fucking TOS and tell me what exactly I did wrong before you post you fucking moron.

As you've shown time and time again, that is very, very arguable, especially when you show your conduct and the way you treat other people in the community (admins and non-admins alike). I've not watched the demo yet, but I plan to and I'll leave more comments if this won't be closed by then.

[|2esolution]

I realize I said that was my last comment but just read what HK posted and had a response to it:

And Hk as far as your comment about it being over the top? your muting people for bitching in the game? As far as I know there is no rule about bitching because you are losing. I warned and then kicked someone for telling me fuck you when I asked them to do their objective and I'm over the top? It has nothing to do with stopping smoking if anything that shows my will power. If I were not so over the top and irresponsible how am i able to quit smoking after 29 years? I have always gotten along well with you yet today when I make a comment to the server about the stress level being rediculous and how everyone needs to relax and play the game and you and deathwish start in the moment after i say it and I respond come on guys stop! and you tell "me" "I?" need to chill?????????????? how could you possibly think that was going to relax me bro? Yea we worked it out I thought but here you are in a post about me talking shit? That doesn't seem very worked out to me.

[Steamer]

Why all the hate on Reso? Looks like proper protocol to me... The guy didn't have to be a dick about asking to be quiet. May be some assholeness in it, but hey, sometimes people need it.

This is stupid, and quite honestly, a waste of fucking valuable time.

Again... wish I could close this shit... *cough* *cough* Zero... *cough*

[HK5150]

I realize I said that was my last comment but just read what HK posted and had a response to it:

And Hk as far as your comment about it being over the top? your muting people for bitching in the game? As far as I know there is no rule about bitching because you are losing. I warned and then kicked someone for telling me fuck you when I asked them to do their objective and I'm over the top? It has nothing to do with stopping smoking if anything that shows my will power. If I were not so over the top and irresponsible how am i able to quit smoking after 29 years? I have always gotten along well with you yet today when I make a comment to the server about the stress level being rediculous and how everyone needs to relax and play the game and you and deathwish start in the moment after i say it and I respond come on guys stop! and you tell "me" "I?" need to chill?????????????? how could you possibly think that was going to relax me bro? Yea we worked it out I thought but here you are in a post about me talking shit? That doesn't seem very worked out to me.

I apologize for this happening like it is. I seriously mean no disrepect at all. Apparently I am screwing up my comm skills on this thread. I stand by my comments though. As far as my administration of a 5-minute ban to a person that specifically asked me to do it well...let's let the community go with that one. I wish all you blokes well. You know that big time Resolution. I also know that it was way too tense there and you were verbally assuming a position of authority over people, even me, that wasn't merited (I don't mean senior admin either). Please remember that I also spoke very highly of you a few posts back. I still speak highly of you. That doesn't mean that we have to agree on everything though. Let's just work through this and get back to fragging the bejesus out of noobs!!!

[Locust]

Why all the hate on Reso? Looks like proper protocol to me... The guy didn't have to be a dick about asking to be quiet. May be some assholeness in it, but hey, sometimes people need it.

This is stupid, and quite honestly, a waste of fucking valuable time.

Again... wish I could close this shit... *cough* *cough* Zero... *cough*
The second kick on BlackEagle was uncalled for. Threatening to ban someone for talking? Gagging/muting people for telling him to chill out? I didn't realize the vast amount of shit I could get away with here.

[|2esolution]

Steamer its because these guys have singled me out and if you notice same peeps every time. People that weren't even there all about some Reso abuse. Notice locust didn't even post this until after i responded to his post on HK. Locust , tom, what and treehoe are all about my business every second of the day hell im afraid to fart cause I might leave them homeless. Seems like someones gotta bitch about something so why not make it about me :P

[HK5150]

hell im afraid to fart cause I might leave them homeless.

Blow their damn house down!

MUHAHAHA:icon_mrgreen:

[Stan]

when blackeagle said stfu, yes you had a right to kick him, but lets fast forward to today.
i state my own opinion when i simply said "let the community pick the map for once, and not change it to whatever ur liking" a few minutes later into the argument, you say "shut up stan" or "f*ck you stan" isn't that not acceptable?
also when you say "when you open your mouth again, you will be temp banned" no need for that, just mute him
cpl mill:
"you guys are really the most argumentative people, if i go find the rule and i post it in here, i will be really pissed." "it's distracting the game" it does NOT matter if it's distracting the game or not, when you bought admin, you agreed to help the community no matter what the cost, buying admin isn't simply just having it for the fun of it, it's for helping the community and banning the rule breakers.
11.5k - you criticize the entire server saying that all of them are the most argumentative people, yet they're just trying to help the server by telling the admins what the players are doing wrong.
when you say it's a distraction from the game, like i said before, you're an admin, you must help the server out at all costs, and when you see people arguing, try to break it up instead of saying that each and every one of us constantly argues and argues.
when HK told you to relax, you should've listened to him, you told them to relax yet when deathwish was trying to explain everything you told him to stop.
when blackeagle told you to relax, u said you were just making a statement, yet today i was just making a statement and you got all worked up about it.
HK was NOT disrespecting you when he told you to relax, he's trying to calm you down, and he doesn't want another argument to start again.

that's all i have to say, hopefully this changes your point of view a bit.

[|2esolution]

like steamer said I warned the guy over and over and he wasn't listening so I told him next step was a temp ban. Honestly according to the rules I was within my right to ban him at that point but I didn't. I haven't banned anyone. As a matter of fact I have been pretty reserved but when I start getting attacked from 3 different positions of course its going to piss me off. Think about it this way, when your trying to do the right thing and you feel you are being relaxed on a rule that you could ban someone for and even though you are taking trash off of the same guy again and NOT doing anything about it and you got 2 other people crying admin abuse it is infuriating. I am human and it was not abuse so therefore you are lieing on me and to me and expecting me to remain completely calm? That shoe on the other foot would have been handled much differently. For example I wonder how locust would take to me telling him fuck you if i weren't admin and not doing my objective. But you see I wouldn't do that because disrespecting and admin is the #1 most retarded shit you can do in a server other than cheating. I got one side saying I'm too relaxed on shit like camping etc and the other bitching cause I enforce it. Seems like a no win situation at times all I can hope for is the people above me (which I do respect) see this bs the exact same way I do. If you don't start no shit there won't be no shit

[Steamer]

Oh, and apologies for kicking you the other day with the blank name. Now you know. I warned you multiple times typed.... but I uhh... did it in spec talk... lmfao.

If you think and know what you'r doing is legit, do it. Sometimes it's just not worth dealing with bs and better to put people in their place. Balance though, sometimes better to ignore it, sometimes well, lay down the fist.

[Locust]

like steamer said I warned the guy over and over and he wasn't listening so I told him next step was a temp ban. Honestly according to the rules I was within my right to ban him at that point but I didn't. I haven't banned anyone. As a matter of fact I have been pretty reserved but when I start getting attacked from 3 different positions of course its going to piss me off. Think about it this way, when your trying to do the right thing and you feel you are being relaxed on a rule that you could ban someone for and even though you are taking trash off of the same guy again and NOT doing anything about it and you got 2 other people crying admin abuse it is infuriating. I am human and it was not abuse so therefore you are lieing on me and to me and expecting me to remain completely calm? That shoe on the other foot would have been handled much differently. For example I wonder how locust would take to me telling him fuck you if i weren't admin and not doing my objective. But you see I wouldn't do that because disrespecting and admin is the #1 most retarded shit you can do in a server other than cheating. I got one side saying I'm too relaxed on shit like camping etc and the other bitching cause I enforce it. Seems like a no win situation at times all I can hope for is the people above me (which I do respect) see this bs the exact same way I do. If you don't start no shit there won't be no shit
you warned him twice. then kicked him. he came back in said "don't abuse". you kicked him again. he came back in said the same thing and then you said "open your mouth again and you'll get a temp ban."

[Steamer]

The second kick on BlackEagle was uncalled for. Threatening to ban someone for talking? Gagging/muting people for telling him to chill out? I didn't realize the vast amount of shit I could get away with here. He should of kept his mouth shut after the first. Legit.

He can change it to whatever as long as it isn't changing rapidly and he is senior, perk of admin.

Disrespecting you Stan, for a suggestion, is not ok. There was enough shit going on in the mix of it all.

CAMPING IS NOT against the rules unless it is the lost person not doing objective.

Fuck what they say, you'll realize soon enough, do what you wish as you see fit within ToC. They like you or don't. Some will not of course, and others will look up to it. Do you think for a minute I got were I am giving a fuck about what others think I should do.... LOL.

[HK5150]

He can change it to whatever as long as it isn't changing rapidly and he is senior, perk of admin.

Please remember, Res wasn't senior atm, I was. But like I said, we reviewed the forums and understand.

[|2esolution]

Stan when you made that comment to me you just entered the room. By you saying the for once part of it you insinuate that i change the map all the time. In the 3 hours i played today never changed map once until vertigo. The vote that came up was all terrible maps and I decided to change next map to italy. I really don't need your comment on it as I was senior admin and already had my full level of bs for the day. When you run your mouth to me I am going to respond. I love it when people provoke you then act like your the one whos being the bad guy. What right do you have to comment to me when I change the map I pay 11.00 a month just like you. I have and would never tell another admin they shouldnt change the map. As a matter of fact we are supposed to be a community inside of a community but still everything I do seems to be pointed out as wrong. Another admin came in the other night and I had senior and he changed the map mid map and you know what i said to him? Not a fucking word it wasnt a big deal so why make it one? the only time I have ever said anything to an admin in here was once when scribble was going to change map to atlantis, told him that map sucks and when it changed the rtv's started coming. It wasn't disrepectful or insinuative like your comment to me.

[Locust]

He should of kept his mouth shut after the first. Legit.

He can change it to whatever as long as it isn't changing rapidly and he is senior, perk of admin.

The gag/mute incident happened AFTER BlackEagle appologized as the first incident was a misunderstanding on his part. He took the blame for that. It happened when he was just saying that Reso should chill out/calm down because he was very worked up.

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Stan when you made that comment to me you just entered the room. By you saying the for once part of it you insinuate that i change the map all the time. In the 3 hours i played today never changed map once until vertigo. The vote that came up was all terrible maps and I decided to change next map to italy. I really don't need your comment on it as I was senior admin and already had my full level of bs for the day. When you run your mouth to me I am going to respond. I love it when people provoke you then act like your the one whos being the bad guy. What right do you have to comment to me when I change the map I pay 11.00 a month just like you. I have and would never tell another admin they shouldnt change the map. As a matter of fact we are supposed to be a community inside of a community but still everything I do seems to be pointed out as wrong. Another admin came in the other night and I had senior and he changed the map mid map and you know what i said to him? Not a fucking word it wasnt a big deal so why make it one? the only time I have ever said anything to an admin in here was once when scribble was going to change map to atlantis, told him that map sucks and when it changed the rtv's started coming. It wasn't disrepectful or insinuative like your comment to me.
I find it hilarious how you think any dissenting opinion being expressed to you is that person running their mouth at you.

[Steamer]

you warned him twice. then kicked him. he came back in said "don't abuse". you kicked him again. he came back in said the same thing and then you said "open your mouth again and you'll get a temp ban."

Again, Legit.
He should have stopped the first time. It was clearly apparent Reso didn't want to hear or deal with the shit.

[|2esolution]

Yes HK I understood the rule to be when an admin is in spec other than watching a hacker that the active admin was senior but after reading the full rule on it that maynard posted I realized I was wrong and apologized. Being new to admin I am trying to get all the rules straight.

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Thank you steamer for the backup because I really just came in the server today to enjoy the game not change diapers.

[Locust]

This seems like there's a dangerous precedent being set. Seems like it can be taken that everyone that disagrees with you is disrespectful. This is concerning to me because I'm not going to be an admin for much longer and I won't have the protection of his inability to use commands on me.

[Stan]

Stan when you made that comment to me you just entered the room. By you saying the for once part of it you insinuate that i change the map all the time. In the 3 hours i played today never changed map once until vertigo. The vote that came up was all terrible maps and I decided to change next map to italy. I really don't need your comment on it as I was senior admin and already had my full level of bs for the day. When you run your mouth to me I am going to respond. I love it when people provoke you then act like your the one whos being the bad guy. What right do you have to comment to me when I change the map I pay 11.00 a month just like you. I have and would never tell another admin they shouldnt change the map. As a matter of fact we are supposed to be a community inside of a community but still everything I do seems to be pointed out as wrong. Another admin came in the other night and I had senior and he changed the map mid map and you know what i said to him? Not a fucking word it wasnt a big deal so why make it one? the only time I have ever said anything to an admin in here was once when scribble was going to change map to atlantis, told him that map sucks and when it changed the rtv's started coming. It wasn't disrepectful or insinuative like your comment to me.

what comment? i simply stated that try letting the community pick the map for once, everybody else has different opinions and views, not all admins feel the same way as me.
i never got to see the maps, so i'm sorry for accusing you of cancelling the map vote, but sometimes when there are a good amount of maps, you cancel the vote and change it to your liking, i know i can't change what you decide to choose. i know what you said "i dont forgive or forget" but hopefully you can forgive the statement i made today.

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Stan when you made that comment to me you just entered the room. By you saying the for once part of it you insinuate that i change the map all the time.
i know my comment was a little rough, sorry about that comment i made today, but you can't just say "f*ck you stan" or "shut up stan" when i was simply stating my own opinion (which was wrong, yes i know)

[|2esolution]

Stan if you realized what I had been through not 20 minutes before you entered the room you would understand and maybe I was quick to get upset about your comment as we have not had any issues but I'm getting a little tired of admins telling me what to do every time I make a move especially when they are wrong or accusive or not even in the room when the events transpire. For that I appologize but its not your choice if I choose to change map or not if I am senior admin. I hope you and I can move on from this

[Stan]

Stan if you realized what I had been through not 20 minutes before you entered the room you would understand and maybe I was quick to get upset about your comment as we have not had any issues but I'm getting a little tired of admins telling me what to do every time I make a move especially when they are wrong or accusive or not even in the room when the events transpire. For that I appologize but its not your choice if I choose to change map or not if I am senior admin. I hope you and I can move on from this
yeah, i did just join, and i would really want to move on from this.
gimme kiss.

[Steamer]

This seems like there's a dangerous precedent being set. Seems like it can be taken that everyone that disagrees with you is disrespectful. This is concerning to me because I'm not going to be an admin for much longer and I won't have the protection of his inability to use commands on me. You think this is the first time shit like this has happened? Hell, I've been banned by clan before I was for a similar situation. Know you're place. Don't come off cocked when making a suggestion or disagreement. If he truly abuses one day, he will be dealt with. Taking cockiness and power too far will eventually be dealt with if it is a reocuring thing. Learn the rules, learn your place. Be respectful, all will be fine. This is not a Democracy. Things haven't been running as well as they are and been around as long as they are for no reason.

[Locust]

You think this is the first time shit like this has happened? Hell, I've been banned by clan before I was for a similar situation. Know you're place. Don't come off cocked when making a suggestion or disagreement. If he truly abuses one day, he will be dealt with. Taking cockiness and power too far will eventually be dealt with if it is a reocuring thing. Learn the rules, learn your place. Be respectful, all will be fine. This is not a Democracy. Things haven't been running as well as they are and been around as long as they are for no reason.
I've been around for over 2 years I've never seen anyone get away with the kind of shit he's getting away with.

[|2esolution]

What exactly am I getting away with? I can't help that you post over something that clearly I am in the right about? Have admins not gotten away with kicking someone for disrespecting and admin before me? Have admins lost admin for changing a map before me? Sounds like you have a very personal issue with me locust and nothing to do with admin rules. You sound like a little bitch who needs to grow up. I'm curious what you think I am getting away with as I came in to have fun and have had to defend myself in this forum for the last 2 hours or so. And my head feels like its going to burst I'm so aggravated with your comments. So what is it you think I am "getting away with?"

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BTW I have been in this server longer than you.... I only joined the forums to buy reserved slot last April and had been playing here and reg pub for a year and a half before that. I was playing here with Shady and shots and cyber before you ever even came here.

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Hugz Stan :)

[Passarelli]

The thing is Reso, I got on for less than an hour and you took multiple admin actions. I see you take several admin actions of your own volition (as in, people not asking you to change the map) nearly every time I see you on. Many more then I see any other admins take. I'm aware you pay an extra $10 a month from what I do, but you should still respect the TOS. Specifically rule 4. "Use admin privileges sparingly and appropriately." Not only that, but your entire demeanor seems to have gotten angrier, and with a hair trigger.




CAMPING IS NOT against the rules unless it is the lost person not doing objective.


3. Sky walking is permitted provided you’re in a spot that the opposing team can shoot back at. Going under the map, or to any place that allows you to see the enemy, but grants them 0 vision of you is not permitted unless you're passing through the area to get some where else.

Blackeagle was camping in the skybox where he could not be shot. He was not passing through.

[Locust]

What exactly am I getting away with? I can't help that you post over something that clearly I am in the right about? Have admins not gotten away with kicking someone for disrespecting and admin before me? Have admins lost admin for changing a map before me? Sounds like you have a very personal issue with me locust and nothing to do with admin rules. You sound like a little bitch who needs to grow up. I'm curious what you think I am getting away with as I came in to have fun and have had to defend myself in this forum for the last 2 hours or so. And my head feels like its going to burst I'm so aggravated with your comments. So what is it you think I am "getting away with?"

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BTW I have been in this server longer than you.... I only joined the forums to buy reserved slot last April and had been playing here and reg pub for a year and a half before that. I was playing here with Shady and shots and cyber before you ever even came here.

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Hugz Stan :)
I've been playing wcs since 2010
http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/player.php?id=1208
your wcs start date is in 2012
http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/player.php?id=35118

[HK5150]

Here is just a bit of thought rattling around my melon:

When a player says STFU! Just remember that we are administrating a rather "open-minded" server.

Please keep the admin chat respectful to one another. I know we all disagree at times but we need to remember that there are human beings behind these consoles.

And the #1 thought that ALL players should remember--when you meet HK on the battlefield just drop your weapon, stay still, and let me aquire the targetd headshot.

That is all...

[acolyte_to_jippity]

I've been playing wcs since 2010
http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/player.php?id=1208
your wcs start date is in 2012
http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/player.php?id=35118

damn, beat me to it. esolution, don't try making bullshit claims like that. lieing about things EASILLY checked won't help at all. remember, checking bullshit like that is pretty much why people keep me around here.

[|2esolution]

I have yet to break a server rule, unlike most people who play here I have never been banned or kicked for any reason other than one day when Empty "thought" i was camping and kicked me which was actually admin abuse as there was 1:45 on the clock and I was moving towards objective waiting on my crypt to proc. I'm not going to ban or kick someone just because their dumb ass team all rushed in the first 15 seconds of a map and they were smart enough to slow role to the objective. Some people in here talk to other people like trash all of the time, I only talk to people like that who deserve it. I don't plan on going anywhere so you can stop posting admin abuse that isn't admin abuse. I have been lean on enforcing rules that I could enforce and people hate me for that. I have enforced rules and people hate me for that. If you hate me sooooo much don't speak to me and you won't get your feelings hurt. Don't threaten me and I won't speak to you in a harsh manner. Don't start shit and there wont be shit. I am here to play the game and help people around me enjoy the game as well if you don't like it I really don't care.

[Locust]

check me. No bans on record. I was warned twice. Once by penis and once by mikey. and 0 abuse threads about me.

[brett friggin favre]

for clarification at 78000, where blackeagle camped after the bomb was dropped off the map, he may not be in a spot where he can't be hit unless he's just passing through. period. reso is wrong in that regard. at the start of mill where the rule was being discussed, reso had a huuuuge stick up his ass, calling everyone argumentative...they were discussing the rule dude.

11.5k on mill, reso continues on about the "arguing" when the topic was dead at that point. if you're so concerned about it being a distraction...why do you bring it back up?

"gator relax" "dude don't tell me to relax" when you just told everyone to relax...???????

another stick up your ass at 17k ish, after the relax comment made by blackeagle

you claim people telling you to chill/relax is disrespect. it's not.

this comment was made by eagle - BlackEagle : gator maybe you are old im self 17 and maybe not grown this is css and here u meet any kind of person

can't see if/when he was gagged or whatever but clearly in asking for your age reso, he wasn't being disrespectful. THAT action taken on mill was unwarranted, and is a direct result of you having a stick up your ass. after all, blackeagle apologized before all this shit went down. you need to take your own advice and calm the fuck down. not everything someone says about you is disrespectful, and if you have a hair trigger when it comes to that sort of thing you're gonna be causing a lot more problems than you're solving.

[|2esolution]

Yea pass you are right in a way my demeanor is getting a little worse as I'm getting tired of the bs attacks like what is going on right this second. The reason I come in in cognito now is because I'm tired of being a target. Also you see me change maps more than other admins because I am on more than most admins right now. Work has been a little slow so I have more time to play than usual. I know you guys would love to play crackhouse and office 24/7 but a lot of people who are on a lot get tired of playing the same maps every 30 minutes. A lot of people in the server like me and like the fact that I change from the same maps we play over and over but you see they don't come in here to bitch about it because they are happy when I am on. It's people like you who want to play the maps you want to play all day long that get tired of playing different maps. It's not like I change the maps all the time to only the maps I want to play, I ask people the majority of the time what they would like to play and I only change it at the nextmap. Again this is why I bought admin in the first place and see no harm in a little diversity although since little bitches like you complain about it I have kept it to a minimum lately and obviously I don't have as much time to be changing maps all the time because it takes up most of my time to abuse admin lol. Also you are making an accusation. You can post demo's if you think I change the map more often than "you" like and let everyone else see your claim but without a demo unless I'm wrong your words mean nothing.

---------- Post added at 07:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:13 PM ----------

Brett:

I stated that since our team took the objective off of the map that he could camp if he wanted as we were the ones who lost the objective. This rule made sense to me at the time and I was not aware that I was wrong. I would like to see the rule where you see it as I couldn't find it.

Eagle asking me how old I was after disrespecting me in the server was viewed by me as more disrespect. If it had been a random conversation it would be different. It was intentional disrespect kind of like what you did the other night in the server when you knew I was senior admin in the server and you put up a map vote and changed map that was playing. I wasn't going to bring it up but now that you have singled me out I feel that it should be said. At the time it wasn't a big deal to me but still it was not your call and you didn't even ask me but I don't plan on calling every little thing out that goes on here like some people.

---------- Post added at 07:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:22 PM ----------

anyway this is spiraling downhill and these are personal attacks against me and not even accurate as this is being taken from different events over 2 different maps and the events are getting blended and distorted. The demo's speak for themselves.

[Locust]

Since things seem to be getting mixed up, here's the events of both the maps in order with ticks:

Vertigo:

tick = 12.5k
"you could always RTV"-theoneandonly
"And I could always cancel vote"-gator ibis.a (aka resolution)

tick = 55k ish:
Disrespect from BlackEagle > slay + kick

tick 60k
"don't abuse"

Kicked for disrespect. < questionable

Tick = 63k
"you open your mouth again you're getting banned"
... really now

tick = 70k
illegal location by blackeagle. Cannont be in a location where you cannot be shot`

tick = 75k
"don't vote kick him"

tick = 78k
Reso getting the rules wrong. Talking in very disrespectful manner to player questioning him.

<was in game> At the end of vertigo BlackEagle sent a message to admins appologizing for his disrespect earlier in the round. He asked gator if he had read the message and gator responds in hostile manner.

cpl_mill:

tick 3k:
deathwish reads the rule to the server
Gator responds by calling him and pass argumentative claims it to be distracting the game. Again reiterates the argument he made the map before which was wrong. (listen until about 10k for his entire statement)

Listen to tick 11.5k

Gets VERY worked up at 12.5k.

BlackEagle says relax and Gator is very worked up and is saying not to tell him to relax.

Tick 16.5k
BlackEagle types in chat`
*DEAD* BlackEagle : relax take it easyyyyy oouuuuu ouuu ouu relax,, take it easyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Gator responds by saying "BlackEagle you see this shit that you start. You see this?"
BlackEagle states that it's a song
Just listen to the following conversation
At this point me and HK are in admin chat telling him that telling someone to chill out is not disrespect.

Tick 22.5k
BlackEagle asks gator for his age

I remember he asked again in TO ADMIN chat and gator then muted/gagged him.

[brett friggin favre]

Brett:

I stated that since our team took the objective off of the map that he could camp if he wanted as we were the ones who lost the objective. This rule made sense to me at the time and I was not aware that I was wrong. I would like to see the rule where you see it as I couldn't find it.

Eagle asking me how old I was after disrespecting me in the server was viewed by me as more disrespect. If it had been a random conversation it would be different. It was intentional disrespect kind of like what you did the other night in the server when you knew I was senior admin in the server and you put up a map vote and changed map that was playing. I wasn't going to bring it up but now that you have singled me out I feel that it should be said. At the time it wasn't a big deal to me but still it was not your call and you didn't even ask me but I don't plan on calling every little thing out that goes on here like some people.

alright, you did it now. firstly, read what i posted. read what blackeagle said about the age comment. he admits to being young and (paraphrasing) immature, saying that you might be older and more mature. disrespect? fuckin please...secondly refer to wcs rules number 3. are you fucking blind? thirdly, i never put up any fucking map vote and before you go falsely accusing a ULA of abuse you better make sure you have your facts straight. i rarely if ever use map votes and if i do, i make sure i'm senior. 100% of the time.

[|2esolution]

looks good on paper locust but in fact not acurate. Was not talking to blackeagle when I said see the shit you started was talking to HK because when i asked him and deathwish not to start it again HK told me to take it easy which lead to black eagle chiming in taking advantage of someone elses comment to me. Also there were comments in between everything you have just posted that changes the perception of the conversation. I like the way you highlighted all the parts that would make me to look as the aggressor though I bet that took you some time. Time that you could be enjoying your life instead of trying to add negativity to an already negative situation. Why would you need to post whats obviously in the demo lol? The only thing I may have overlooked here is the rule on the opposing team hiding when the objective team dropped object somewhere that it couldn't be recovered. If and I say "if" I am wrong on that it certainly wasn't my intention especially since the person that was camping it out was the person that disrespected me. If I was trying to be abusive don't you think I would have sided against the person that disrespected me and not "for" that person? Locust you are a real piece of work I bet your parents are proud.

---------- Post added at 07:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:40 PM ----------

Bla bla vla Brett: I am not posting admin abuse on you I simply stated what happened. I even asked scribble about it next day which we had a lengthy conversation on how I should handle it in the future if it should arise again. I am simply stating not making an admin abuse claim other than here say because if it bothered me that bad I would have done it right then. There is no demo posted so don't get all excited. Just saying things go on that aren't mentioned but when you attack me and tell me I have a stick up my ass it obviously changes my point of view of you Mr. perfect.

[Passarelli]

See Resto? This is why people do not have respect for you.


...I bet that took you some time. Time that you could be enjoying your life instead of trying to add negativity to an already negative situation....Locust you are a real piece of work I bet your parents are proud.
...
point of view of you Mr. perfect. [Brett]

...It's people like you...although since little bitches like you...Also you are making an accusation. You can post demo's if you think I change the map more often than "you" like and let everyone else see your claim but without a demo unless I'm wrong your words mean nothing.

I did not call you names. I simply stated how I felt you were in violation of the Admin TOS. You demand respect, yet you call people derogatory names. You get pissed when a guy playing human as the last CT tells you to STFU when he is moving to the objective. He was even running! Sure, there may have been more to it, but from what I saw and heard in chat, it was pretty ridiculous. I did not complain when you changed the map to Vertigo (and map changing is not the only admin actions I was referring to). I only disliked the one you picked the other night because it was giving myself and others visual glitches.

Speaking of, after you left (you said you got disconnected) we RTVed or asked the other admin who was on to change it (I can't remember off the top of my head). It got changed to italy, which I did not ask or vote for. When you came back, you bitched for a good 10 minutes about having just played italy etc, etc. I vote for the map i would like to play, which often is not the one that wins the majority vote. I never cry about it, and simply play. Try not to project such a negative attitude, and people might treat you better. <<pro life tip

I was simply stating that I see you take Admin actions much more often than most other Admins, and that you do not know the rules, even though you "read them yesterday from top to bottom" and that "you'll get pissed if you have to find the ruling" (even though you were clearly wrong in this case). Also, you don't always wait till the next map starts. I've seen you change it mid-round before, several times. I'll start saving the demos now, if you really want me to build a case against you to get your admin revoked. I'm really just tired of hearing you whine every time you come on. If it isn't one thing, it's another. Your attitude isn't helping this community in the least.

I've been nothing but respectful to you even when I don't agree with you in the least, and that is how you treat me. Thanks. For example, when you told me to drop the discussion we were having on the rule, I did, even though you bitched and bitched about it after everyone else shut up about it.

By the way, I'm pretty sure the overall gist of this thread is, "Resto, you need to CHILL OUT mang".

[|2esolution]

I cannot help that some of you like to cry. I think it's good for you to get it out! Again you drag me back here lol If I have abused admin in any way I'm sure Zero will let me know. I really don't care what your "opinions" are of me. Although my opinions of couple of you have changed dramatically. See you in the game I will be the one shooting you :)

[Erdenay]

Steamer its because these guys have singled me out and if you notice same peeps every time. People that weren't even there all about some Reso abuse. Notice locust didn't even post this until after i responded to his post on HK. Locust , tom, what and treehoe are all about my business every second of the day hell im afraid to fart cause I might leave them homeless. Seems like someones gotta bitch about something so why not make it about me :P

You really should stop making yourself this self-important. If pretty much everyone tells you that there's a problem... You may want to look into it. I've never targeted you and I sincerely doubt other people have done it either. However, you really need to get yourself under control and stop acting like a child - I don't care that you claim to be over 40, but you are acting as a spoiled child. Admins are faces of the community and they are responsible for upholding the law and making sure everything is going smoothly. Admin is not about getting what you want and YOUR fun - by buying admin you essentially are signing a contract. How do you expect to be respected in the community if you respect no one?

Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them wrong. People discussing the problem or rule doesn't equal disrespect towards you.

[Passarelli]

Resto, you are the one that has been making this personal. I have just been posting my observations. Take responsibility for where this conversation has been going, over half of it has been you.

(BTW, I added a couple of your juicier quotes in my previous post)

You should step back for an hour or two and think about something else, then come back and re-read this thread. Look at how negative you've been, and how you have been making this personal.


P.S. There is no rules about if the bomb leaves the map, because it is against the rules to take it off the map in the first place. I had no intention of doing so, and thus the admins on took no action against me. My point was and still is that qq was intentionally camping where he could not be shot. INTENT is the key word here. I broke the rules unintentionally and by accident. He did it on purpose. (at this point I tried to use votekick to get him to stop when you told us not to do so) Your arbitration was wrong and making the rules more confusing.

[|2esolution]

If there was any validity to your statements I would concern myself with it but since its here say and the demos show me doing no wrong and noone has any proof of me doing anything wrong and even admitting this in your comments why would you expect me to take responsibility for accusations and lies. This isn't a popularity contest so get over yourselves.

[Passarelli]

While the ULAs may see it your way Reso, you are guilty of violating this:

VII. Respect
1) Players that disrespect others
3) Players that disrespect Admins or <ibis>

And all in this thread. However, it depends on if the ULAs will extend the server rules to the forums.

kthxbye

[Locust]

While the ULAs may see it your way Reso, you are guilty of violating this:

VII. Respect
1) Players that disrespect others
3) Players that disrespect Admins or <ibis>

And all in this thread. However, it depends on if the ULAs will extend the server rules to the forums.

kthxbye
The only one who has agreed with him currently is Steamer but he matters more than anyone else because Clan

[CYBER]

i just wanna say one thing :
You do not deserve respect simply for wearing a tag. You earn that respect for using your tag properly. Admin is not a privilege, but a responsibility.
I've yet to see EXACTLY what's going on, but from what i read from brett, who i trust his dictations of ticks, i can see that Resolution is really trigger happy when it comes to "enforcing the rules".
All i can say is that, regardless of the output of the admin abuse charges, res u need to relax a bit on the admin usage.
Don't take anything that people tell you as disrespect... if i banned anyone who told me to "chill the fuck out cyber" when i rage, there wouldn't be players in the server anymore lol...

For example, I'm a rage. I KNOW im a rage. I get mad sometimes. But ask around the server, u'll see that people still respect me (and like me, i hope) as an admin because i refrain from abusing power (not saying u are) when im in such state of mind. I simply fall back, digress on the issue, and see where i stood on it. 10 mins of turning ur mic off and cooling off makes a whole difference in the eyes of people looking at u raging.

Be respectful to others. imo (and my opinion only), the "admin disrespect" rule should only be enforced if you are actually trying to be a proper law-enforcer and a good model, and u're still being trolled.
If you started shit and disrespected others and enticed them to call you out on the rage-mode, u shouldn't simply get to hide behind the tag. It's a like a cop who starts bashing on u and hitting u and then if u hit back, he arrests u and claims the badge. While it may slide at that time, people are watching and judging how u interact.

Again thats only my opinion on the last paragraph. and i really don't mean anything illfull to u res, we've actually started to mend the issues between us that started off wrongfully over miscommunication.
I'm just stating that most "good" admins almost never use their admin until they can no longer keep people in check. it's the last thing u should do, AFTER u give THEM a chance to relax, while YOU are relaxed.

my 2 cents. ^ ... im out of this thread for the time being.

[|2esolution]

like any of you matter. The majority used to burn witches back i the day too. And you resemble a lynch mob.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

like any of you matter.

do you?

just some food for thought. walk away and let this thread die. that goes for everyone. chill out, get back in-game, and pew until the morning.

[Locust]

like any of you matter. The majority used to burn witches back i the day too. And you resemble a lynch mob.
i lol'd

[XX0wnsXY]

55K On vertigo is a little quick on the draw, l2eso. I wouldn't have gone about it in THAT way, however, once you warn him not to disrespect you, he does it again, obviously disregarding the rules. He also KNOWS the rules and the consequences since he's been playing here forever... Is it a dick move to be that damn testy? yeah, ..abuse? No.

I will say that l2eso gave blackeagle quite a few chances and never actually banned the guy. Then, let's his obvious misuse of the skybox slide:

As far as blackeagle being in an illegal location..this is an isolated incident with specific considerations. The T's lost the bomb (accidentally) and so the objective could not be completed and the new objective becomes to kill eachother (discussed with maynard, since he's a WCS rulebook). Blackeagle was camping..and the rule says Camping is not allowed. However, an admin does NOT have to punish a player for these things. However, I believe l2eso was in minunderstanding of the rules.

As far as mill goes

I believe people were just trying to be clear on the rule. You were wrong about the rule. Technically, an admin can punish blackeagle for being in the spot and camping, but you did not. Which is funny to me, because last time you told him to do his objective (and he was, mind you) it blew up and you acted as if you were the end all be all. Keep in mind people, that admins do not HAVE to punish for these things, but if you're going to wear the tag, and act as a strict admin, then you better be prepared for some scrutiny when you don't do what people expect you to do! It's part of being admin.

Locust, to be fair, you did enter the situation without even knowing the full story. Based on what i've seen you post before, it seems you have it out for l2eso and so I can see him being defensive when you enter the game and scrutinize his stand on things, when you weren't there and are obviously misinformed.

l2eso, if you believe that scrutiny from players, and constant checking of the rules is a "distraction from the game" as you put it, then you REALLY should rethink your decision to be admin. Being admin is more work than people think (unless you're totally fucking useless). Realize, that there are standards on how you treat people. You can't treat people like shit, and then expect any form of positive feedback. You're going to get slammed if you keep up the approach of "my way or no way" and ruling with an iron fist..sometimes!.

On the other side of things,

I've noticed that a lot of players seem to be on a witch hunt when it comes to l2esolution. To all the regular players and admins who aren't senior..Remember that the BEST approach when you disagree with an admin is to bring the evidence to the forum or directly to a clan member so that it can be dealt with right away. Instead, many of you let it build and build until a heated argument explodes and it's a big clusterfuck of who did what. When an admin tells you to do something, typically you should do it..wether you agree or not! IF you do not..like I said, bring it to the attention to someone who can DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Don't argue with them, get them and yourself heated, and let emotions get in the way of the rules and what is right/wrong.

In summary..

I see a hothead admin that is WAY to harsh and approaches situations in a hostile manner which receives completely negative responses from the players involved. I see no ACTUAL abuse here..but my advice is above.

[Passarelli]

Reso, even after I called you out on disrespect, you keep on doing it apologetically.

That said, I'm going to go ahead and take Locust's advice till some more ULAs weigh in.

[CYBER]

like any of you matter. The majority used to burn witches back i the day too. And you resemble a lynch mob.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23106581.jpg

hehehe i couldn't resist but posting this.
Res? buddy? i STRONGLY recommend u walk away from this thread and let clanners handle it.
Disrespecting me, brett, other ULAs and (hopefully not ) clan members will bring you nothing but trouble.

lol if i was resolution right now, i'd have banned u and claimed "admin disrespect" LOLLLLL...

^ just pointing out how u've been handling this so far. I can easily treat u the same way u're treating others. I have higher power than u , doesn't mean i'm gonna use it. because i would be in the wrong. the way you are right now towards others.

[maynard]

Thread closed till I'm finished reviewing the evidence....

[maynard]

When the bomb is lost and the objective can't be done in a normal fashion, the teams need 2 go head 2 head and duke it out. Going off the map and sitting where you can't be seen or shot and camping it out is not acceptable and should not be allowed 2 happen.

Skywalking is allowed on our servers, but you basically need 2 be doing it over the map where you would normally run/walk... as if you go anywhere else you're heading into the areas that grants you vision through the map, and also puts you in places where people can't shoot at you... that is not acceptable unless you're simply passing through one of these areas 2 get some where else.... and that some where else needs 2 be over the normal map.


Admin will be educated on the rules as he's clearly confused regarding them. Given the disagreement on the rules did not actually involve the use of any admin commands, no admin abuse can be claimed regarding this issue.

As for blackeagle... all admin commands used on him and forms of punishment are justified. He was even properly warned several times before action was taken on him, and it was clear that blackeagle was just having fun via trolling reso.

No abuse found.