Extended Delays

[ZERO]

My primary storage drive is corrupted and I am still running checkdisk to repair the file system. It might be a day or 2 before it can finish. All the work on the GG DM FFA server was saved on that array. In the event that it does come back I will be trying to order up 2 4tb drives to make hard backups to encase this occurs again. The underline issue is that backing up all the server data and doing all the game server work locally is very difficult for a ntsf volume. Unfortunately the only replacement filesystem is only available for windows server 8 which is bend over $$. I can barely afford even the 4tb drives to copy the data to... :banghead:

If anyone has some extra $$ lying around it would help me get this shit fixed faster lol.

Anyways there will be extensive delays for days assuming I can recover the volume. If not expect delays lasting months to even a half a year. That volume stored all my work for the last 3 years. A separate backup computer would have protected me from this but I do not got 1500$ lying around to build a dedicated file server to backup my main system :banghead: :headache:

So lets pray I can recover an hopefully just backup to some 4tb drives on esata or something till I can get money for a better solution. (as if I even got the money for 2 4tb drives :reddot: )

[acolyte_to_jippity]

could you possibly use a linux-based storage system instead?

ext4 is a bit easier to fuck with than ntfs, as far as i can tell.

[Rage]

Smash them piggy banks boys and girls... daddy needs a new toy!

[StarsMine]

Was it not raided to anything D:

[ZERO]

The problem is the array is on my main windows system that I use for everytihing. That is what I meant by a secondary system to have a linux file system backup of the other file system. I have raid 6 but this is not a raid issue just an OS and file system problem.

[Steamer]

So,... hopefully we can raise about 400 for base drives at minimum cost/performance. I'll kick in soon.

[Rage]

Put up a donation bar across the top of the site page. Starts at $0 and final is $400. Brief description of what donations are for.

You can see the idea im refering to on the pantless server: http://thepantless.com/activity.php

[XX0wnsXY]

Put up a donation bar across the top of the site page. Starts at $0 and final is $400. Brief description of what donations are for.

You can see the idea im refering to on the pantless server: http://thepantless.com/activity.php

If everyone donates one extra payment for admin we should be close. Ill donate when you get a donation link up.

[ZERO]

Luckily, I have managed to recover the drive as checkdisk decided it would work. However, it is clear now the danger that my data is in. Currently I have 5.77TB of data on a 7.27TB array. Therefore in order to provide better protection there is 2 options:

A) get 2x 4tb drives for $380 this would provide a backup but force me to separate out the files a lot with the drives individually formatted and the max .8% capacity before they are over loaded these drives can not even fit what I need. So basically $380 for a 1 time use copy of what I have now likely could recopy once a month. In the event the raid drive gets corrupt I can copy from these 2 drives and only lose 1 month and prey they do not die during the transfer lol.

B) Build backup file server for $1331, this would permanently solve the problem by having a second redundant system main costs are $536 for 4x 3tb hdds (run raid 5) and then $470 for a raid card. The rest is for the case/ram/motherboard/cpu. I would then run linux on it and some sort of redundant file system that is better than ntsf.

So here is the deal, logically paypal will take money if you donate directly so I will accept any payment type for those that want to donate. I will update with posts in here how much I have collected so far. My goal is to get close to $1000 so I can do option B. PM me if you want to donate and we can work out the best way for you to send money.

Regardless I will take what I can get and combine it with what I can scrap together and figure out something. Luckily I think if I am careful my main system should not have any more hard crashes that corrupt the drive but there is no way to know when windows will decide to blow up my array lol.

For those of you that wonder how one has problems like this here is a list of problem in the past this single system has had (why not for the lolz)

motherboard fried due to sabotage of the cooling system
new tube to replace sabotage tube
new motherboard DOA could not get rma
new new motherboard DOA gave up on that board
120mm fan failed (replaced)
3 sticks of RAM failed (RMA win)
leds on cpu ht failed (never fixed)
gpu failed (ie crashed a lot) (replaced with new one)
pump power wire cut (repaired but untested)
SSD containing the OS failed (replaced with new SSD)
2tb drive DOA (RMA win)
120mm fan failed (never fixed)
2tb drive died after 30 hours (RMA fail)
raid 0 array crashed when 15k sas drive broke (replaced array with 1 ssd)
2x 120mm fan failed (never fixed)
pump caught fire (luckily the rest of the computer did not)
male QD failed (needs RMA)
female QD failed (needs RMA)
flow sensor failed (needs repair attempt/rma)


So there you have it, when you do a lot on your computer you also have a lot done to you (in the forum of shit exploding). :headache:

On a related note GG DM FFA will be on schedule for testing sometime Monday unless something breaks again in the next 24 hours.

[Spasm]

Luckily, I have managed to recover the drive as checkdisk decided it would work. However, it is clear now the danger that my data is in. Currently I have 5.77TB of data on a 7.27TB array. Therefore in order to provide better protection there is 2 options:

A) get 2x 4tb drives for $380 this would provide a backup but force me to separate out the files a lot with the drives individually formatted and the max .8% capacity before they are over loaded these drives can not even fit what I need. So basically $380 for a 1 time use copy of what I have now likely could recopy once a month. In the event the raid drive gets corrupt I can copy from these 2 drives and only lose 1 month and prey they do not die during the transfer lol.

B) Build backup file server for $1331, this would permanently solve the problem by having a second redundant system main costs are $536 for 4x 3tb hdds (run raid 5) and then $470 for a raid card. The rest is for the case/ram/motherboard/cpu. I would then run linux on it and some sort of redundant file system that is better than ntsf.

So here is the deal, logically paypal will take money if you donate directly so I will accept any payment type for those that want to donate. I will update with posts in here how much I have collected so far. My goal is to get close to $1000 so I can do option B. PM me if you want to donate and we can work out the best way for you to send money.

Regardless I will take what I can get and combine it with what I can scrap together and figure out something. Luckily I think if I am careful my main system should not have any more hard crashes that corrupt the drive but there is no way to know when windows will decide to blow up my array lol.

For those of you that wonder how one has problems like this here is a list of problem in the past this single system has had (why not for the lolz)

motherboard fried due to sabotage of the cooling system
new tube to replace sabotage tube
new motherboard DOA could not get rma
new new motherboard DOA gave up on that board
120mm fan failed (replaced)
3 sticks of RAM failed (RMA win)
leds on cpu ht failed (never fixed)
gpu failed (ie crashed a lot) (replaced with new one)
pump power wire cut (repaired but untested)
SSD containing the OS failed (replaced with new SSD)
2tb drive DOA (RMA win)
120mm fan failed (never fixed)
2tb drive died after 30 hours (RMA fail)
raid 0 array crashed when 15k sas drive broke (replaced array with 1 ssd)
2x 120mm fan failed (never fixed)
pump caught fire (luckily the rest of the computer did not)
male QD failed (needs RMA)
female QD failed (needs RMA)
flow sensor failed (needs repair attempt/rma)


So there you have it, when you do a lot on your computer you also have a lot done to you (in the forum of shit exploding). :headache:

On a related note GG DM FFA will be on schedule for testing sometime Monday unless something breaks again in the next 24 hours.

All you can really say is wow to that list of bad luck.

[Patmonster]

That is nuts. At what point do you just decide that case is bad luck and start from new?

Some bad jew jew you have going on there...

[ZERO]

Oh do you want me to get into the list of systems before it!? rofl. I think you can find history of delays in here going back years from my computers blowing up lol.

[Steamer]

I remember when the money was raised to build said system. Good times. * Tear rolls down face.* Option B definitely.

[CYBER]

Zero ?
is donating through paypal for admin (pre-paying for a long time) acceptable to fund you fast?:)

[ZERO]

Yea that is fine too, how ever you all want to offer support I am more than happy to accept it. Remember if you open mutiple subs on the same account they stack.

So for example lets say I want to all at once add 5 months to 1 account. I would create 5 subs for that account and then cancel them. So I have paid for admin 5 times and the system counts 1 month each time it gets a payment so you know have 5 months of admin prepaid for example. Works for gifts ect.

[Rage]

Ill be getting a nice fat paycheck thursday n ill be sure to donate. Seriously tho. Donation bar atop forum. Put goal 500 bucks with progress bar nand percentage as well. I wanna see how long it takes.

[ZERO]

I have found that there is an option C although it is risky in the event a 4tb drive fails. The real problem with option C is that it involves installing Windows 8...

7234

As I said before the root of the problem is with NTSF and therefore if I replaced NTSF with ReFS my problems would be solved. There is a way to run ReSF in windows 8 using this mod: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/35963-ReFS-package-for-the-Windows-8-Client-Download

So I could downgrade to windows 8 and then install that mod to get ReFS and then copy everything off my array to either a second temp array or something and then copy it back after reformatting in ReFS. The total cost would be much lower than having a second computer.

I have an old PCI raid card that supports raid 5. I could use that in a computer even though it is only SATA1 and in theory have a safe array to use.

Possible costs for this would be: $604-$770 assuming that my old raid card works (and I can find a computer with a pci slot) (it may b possible to make a raid 5 on this motherboard too)

[ZERO]

Yes as I thought my board has raid 5:



Dual RAID http://www.asus.com/websites/global/images/icons/dual-raid.gifThe Intel ICH10R chipsets incorporate Six Serial ATA connectors with high performance RAID functions in RAID 0, 1, 10 and 5. The JMicron controller provides another two Serial ATA connectors for RAID 0, 1, and JBOD functions. This motherboard is the ideal solution to enhance hard disk performance and data back up protection without the cost of add-on cards.

Unfortunately I have 4 HDDs plugged into those 6 ports... :banghead:

I could temp disconnect 2 of them and figure something out. Maybe wire the esata ports internally lol.

[ZERO]

Raid 5 but no support for drives over 2TB :banghead: shit never a cheep solution

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OK the alternative is $960 to get a 4 port raid card and add it to my system with 4x 2tb drives in raid 5 then copy the data to those then reformat in ReSF then copy back then b/c I used the same brand raid card and same size drives I can then destroy the raid 5 array and add those 4 drives to my existing raid 6 by using both cards for 1 massive array with double the capacity I have now.

Regardless still need donations to do any of these options.

[ZERO]

That is nuts. At what point do you just decide that case is bad luck and start from new?

Some bad jew jew you have going on there...

This same system is over 4 years old. Most people would have had 2-3 computers during this time. Rather than spent $2000 every two years I find it better to just invest in a $4000 system that lasts at least 6 years. Honestly this cpu should still hold good for me at least another 3 years so that is good. The parts that get invested in over time can be moved over to a new system. Ironically most of the cost in this computer is now in the storage system.

[StarsMine]

windows 8 isnt that bad, in fact its not bad at all, the task manager is fucking awsome.

[ZERO]

Well apparently ReFS does not support raid 6 so it might as well not exist :banghead:

I mean really MS with all your $$ how can you not create a decent file system that also works with raid this is 2013 not 1993...

[jwtemp]

Well apparently ReFS does not support raid 6 so it might as well not exist :banghead:

I mean really MS with all your $$ how can you not create a decent file system that also works with raid this is 2013 not 1993...

But Zero, how is Microsoft going to make all that $$$ without obfuscating the simplest of procedures and making things that clearly shouldn't be proprietary proprietary?! I mean the only alternative would be like, innovation and exciting products consumers want to use!

You're just a bully to the poor innocent corporations! :lmao:

[ZERO]

Well maybe there are some improvements :banghead:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/05/09/redesigning-chkdsk-and-the-new-ntfs-health-model.aspx

If I knew about this before I would have ordered win 8 when it was cheep :reddot: