Chef C Green
04-13-2013, 03:21 PM
Note: Didn't want to clutter the race thread in case this gets off topic and/or whiney, which it probably will at points :banghead:
Spiderman (a.k.a. Spidey) is a very competitive race that lends itself well to covering a lot of terrain in a short amount of time. With the combined benefits of web-shooters acting to hold enemies in place, and spidey sense to evade as much as 30% of the enemy's firepower, a player can easily pick-off opponents. This isn't so bad considering a lace does keep the spidey from webbing away, or various counters (medusa stoning, entangle, bash, etc). The problem comes in when you have an unrestricted team of spideys coming in to lay down fire. None of the mentioned ults - with exception of bash and web-shooters which are attributes really - allows enough time to counter this rushing class. Furthermore, a lace can prove insignificant when faced with a barrage from point blank - you're still gonna get lit up by a p90.
We've put limits on races such as vagalion and vagabond for their rushing capabilities and powerful attributes. It is my opinion that spidey should have similar limit restrictions of 1-2 per team to offer a reasonable cap on such overwhelming capabilities. I would go as far to say that the race could be nerfed a bit, but I know that route is never favored by the community and perhaps it isn't needed. On an additional note, since Athena's ult is already relatively fast (8 sec after round start), can we simply make it available as soon as round starts? Perhaps this would offer a better platform to fight back as well?
Thus concludes my gripe session. Please comment CONSTRUCTIVELY, offering relevant arguments that would support or disagree with both A) Spidey being overpowered in its current state or B) The idea of putting a limit of how many should be available to a team.
Spiderman (a.k.a. Spidey) is a very competitive race that lends itself well to covering a lot of terrain in a short amount of time. With the combined benefits of web-shooters acting to hold enemies in place, and spidey sense to evade as much as 30% of the enemy's firepower, a player can easily pick-off opponents. This isn't so bad considering a lace does keep the spidey from webbing away, or various counters (medusa stoning, entangle, bash, etc). The problem comes in when you have an unrestricted team of spideys coming in to lay down fire. None of the mentioned ults - with exception of bash and web-shooters which are attributes really - allows enough time to counter this rushing class. Furthermore, a lace can prove insignificant when faced with a barrage from point blank - you're still gonna get lit up by a p90.
We've put limits on races such as vagalion and vagabond for their rushing capabilities and powerful attributes. It is my opinion that spidey should have similar limit restrictions of 1-2 per team to offer a reasonable cap on such overwhelming capabilities. I would go as far to say that the race could be nerfed a bit, but I know that route is never favored by the community and perhaps it isn't needed. On an additional note, since Athena's ult is already relatively fast (8 sec after round start), can we simply make it available as soon as round starts? Perhaps this would offer a better platform to fight back as well?
Thus concludes my gripe session. Please comment CONSTRUCTIVELY, offering relevant arguments that would support or disagree with both A) Spidey being overpowered in its current state or B) The idea of putting a limit of how many should be available to a team.