*>> Mr. Croc <<*, STEAM_0:0:51886818, 04/20/2013 9:00AM

[jwtemp]

Name in Game: *>> Mr. Croc <<*
Steam-ID: STEAM_0:0:51886818
Where: GG
Link to any previous bans:
Reason to perma ban: Pretty obvious wallhack

Got suspicious of this guy when every time I'd turn a corner I was dead with a headset before I even spotted him. Pulled the demo, sure enough, walls.

Note that it takes him a few moments to join a team (always raises my suspicion on an unknown player)
Tick 4000 - Aug trace through wall after waiting on two wall concealed opponents to emerge so he can AWP them
Tick 5500 - Watch as he COMPLETELY changes direction midstride - with no knowledge of opponent placement right? - then traces me through the pipe and up on the tower, then he TURNS AROUND (because he saw the other guys coming already on the right side, why else would he do this?) kills one guy, immediately scopes in and kills me in the tower
Tick 7000 - LOLOLOL. Just watch for it. These two kills are DELICIOUS.
Tick 9300 - Nice trace with the auto sniper.
Tick 11800 - Nice trace of opponents through the box with the scout
Tick 14500 - He's CLEARLY heading to the right side, then suddenly changes, moving LEFT (where all three of his enemies are headed, no way he would know this without seeing them through the wall)
Tick 15000 - I call him on his bullshit, via chat. He enters the age old 'MY HEADSET, FOOTSTEPS, I'M JUST REALLY GOOD AND YOU SUCK' excuse. Then he says 'you have to walk to hear footsteps' - please note, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN THE DEMO THAT HE PRESSED SHIFT TO MOVE SLOWLY.

Did I mention he's from Belgium? ;)

I believe at this point, he toggled his hacks off and starts 'walking' and 'listening,' (you know because he's so pro) but I honestly stopped reviewing the demo after tick 15000. The ticks I've mentioned here seem conclusive to me. You be the judge!

[brett friggin favre]

wallsy walls

[Erdenay]

Yup, definitely hacks. Watched the whole thing, but even if you just watch 5k,7k and 14k.

[jwtemp]

I'm very glad to see you guys voting this way. It seemed so obvious to me, but twice I've had cases now where I was so sure they were hacking and the bans were overturned because the evidence wasn't firm enough. (I am in no way complaining about the rulings being overturned)

What's funny is I followed Mr. Croc to a traditional CS:S server under a different Steam name and watched him cheat there too. I entered spectate and started asking him why he played a competitive game like CS:S and cheated, since it kind of defeated the point. He, of course, denied being a cheater, has a great headset, blah blah blabbity blah, then someone else on the server got on the mic and started saying 'Mr. Croc doesn't cheat, he's just a really, really good player! He has been playing here forever and has never been caught cheating. I'm going to trust him over you because I know him!'

It was honest an eye opening experience for me. There are so many players that cheat and get away with it every single day on this game. IBIS is probably the most watch-dog servers there are around, and I know for sure that even we don't catch all of 'em.

Let's ban this Belgian fuck and have one less cheater in our midst. :D

[CYBER]

Yup, definitely hacks. Watched the whole thing, but even if you just watch 5k,7k and 14k.

no.

he hacks. thats true.
but tick 4k awps u can see shadows, tick 5.5 k u can see the guy for a split second go into towers and then the sound behind him makes him turn (assuming he was legit), and many ticks mentionned by jw were actually legit.. and although he was bullshitting about his audio at tick (15k i think?) when he was saying that "there's a guy behind this wall..." he actually is right about the sound at THAT moment... but it's obvious that he's intentionally using this as an excuse...


however, im basing my vote on my own list of ticks (some are mentionned above) but mostly a few ticks after the 20k mark, especially when jw goes in stealth mode and he prefires, and also when he equips a knife when he sees the enemy with a knife behind the wall etc....

just be careful when u're chosing ur ticks, im only drilling u bcos u might have potential, but u need to try to find an excuse for ANYTHING the person does before jumping the gun... if i was watching only until 7k? i'd be 'meh' about it ...


perma. closed.