Blade's Santa Drug Lord Themed Mafia Game

[BladeTwinSwords]

Sign ups are closed and these are the following players:

1. Scribbles (Deceased) Innocent Scavenger
2. Cyber (Confirmed)
3. What (Confirmed)
4. Mikey (Confirmed)
5. Wolf (Deceased) Mafia Roleblocker
6. Chikun (Deceased) Innocent Bus Driver
7. Masskid (Deceased) Innocent Vanilla Townie
8. Brett (Confirmed)
9. Carm (Deceased) Innocent Firefighter
10. Nemesis (Confirmed)
11. Rape$$ (Confirmed)

Roles will be sent out shortly. Please confirm in the thread.

Rules:

1. Have fun.
2. To use a power, you must PM me.
3. No editing. Use Reply on your messge if you wish to add to it. Players caught editing will face dire consequences.
4. If people are trying to get info out of you outside the thread, PM me and I will deal with it.
5. If you're dead YOU'RE DEAD. No more posting relevant information after that. A short farewell post (like Fuuuuuck) is fine.
6. No quoting my or others emails/messages.
7. No communication outside the thread unless your role allows you to do so and then only in the game's nights.
8. Get your choices in before the deadlines. If not, a random choice will be made for the first night, and no choice for subsequent nights.
9. The mod is always right during the game. Accept the decisions, and if you want to discuss them, take it to email, or do so after the game has finished.
10. Lynching will be carried out once a regular majority is reached - and cannot be undone by unvoting. A "no lynch" vote is acceptable.
11. Enjoy the game.

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Roles have been sent out.

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Day 1 Results:

Masskid lynched by: Brett, Mikey, Chikun, Carm, Rape$$

Night 1 Results: Nothing Happened

Day 2 Results:

Carm lynched by: Brett, Mikey, Cyber, What, Chikun, Rape$$

Night 2 Results: Chikun was Incinerated

Day 3 Results:

Scribble lynched by: Brett, Mikey, Nemesis, Wolf, Rape$$

Night 3 Results: Wolf was Shot

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Confirmed

[Nemesis]

confirmed.

[What]

Confirmed'a'rooney'dooney

[Chikun]

Confirmed Gold leader.

Red leader standing by.

[Wolfenstinger]

confirmed.

[Carmichal]

confirmed

[brett friggin favre]

Confirmed

[SCRIBBLE]

Confirmed

[Masskid]

Conformed

[BladeTwinSwords]

9 people have confirmed their role so let's get this show on the road.

It was a cold winters night up in the North Pole. Everyone knows Santa is a jolly old fellow. But people don't know the real side of him. Little did the people of the world know that Santa was an infamous drug lord. He was cunning, ruthless, and had a maniacal laughter. He got things done quick and without alerting the authorities. One day, some of Santa's reindeer decided to overthrow Santa and take over his drug cartel. The reindeer did this in secret and not knowing who each other was as to avoid suspicion or foul play. Some of the reindeer had no action in the removal of Santa and so they wish to kill off those who wanted nothing more than power. The reindeer must find the culprits amongst themselves and eliminate them while the traitorous reindeer must kill off the innocent reindeer. But who is who?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pStn5Zwxz7E

Day 1 has started. You have a deadline of 36 hours (Yes 36 cause fuck it) to either lynch or no lynch.

There are 11 people, so it takes 6 to lynch.

[Wolfenstinger]

Vote Masskid

Reason: I win.

[Masskid]

Vote Brett
Last thread said he was Godfather

[Wolfenstinger]

Unvote

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

im going to go for the kill my self as quickly as possible method

Vote: Masskid

<3

[Wolfenstinger]

Vote: Brett

Reason: :headache:

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Unvote

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Vote: Brett

Reason: :headache:

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Unvote

lol you double voted...

[BladeTwinSwords]

Saying just Unvote is suffice as long as it is in Green

[Wolfenstinger]

So, to keep things simple - as long as its Vote Player, its gotta be in red and Unvote is green of some sort?

[BladeTwinSwords]

So, to keep things simple - as long as its Vote Player, its gotta be in red and Unvote is green of some sort?

Yes for the sake of being able to see it.

[SCRIBBLE]

Hmm Masskid do you still want to play by the method mikey quoted?

Would make for an easy night 1 vote as opposed to the horrid no lynch.

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Day 1 vote*

[Chikun]

I have doubts Brett is going for a hat-trick. Still, this is Blade we're talking about.

Bastard coated bastard with bastard filling.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I have doubts Brett is going for a hat-trick. Still, this is Blade we're talking about.

Bastard coated bastard with bastard filling.

Actually unlike the other games, I used my old statistics book literally containing nothing but random numbers. This is what I used to determine roles.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

what do you mean blade? I know you have some wierd degree in statistics or somthing....

[BladeTwinSwords]

So far everyone has used random.org except for me because I'm odd like that.

[What]

Well so far both mass and wolfen are throwing out votes randomly like in the WCS game, however mass did turn out to be a bad guy in that thread, though Wolfen was a good guy. Still not sure what to make of the use of the same strategies thus far.

[Masskid]

Unvote

Vote: What

Just because >:D

[Wolfenstinger]

Vote Scribble

[Carmichal]

vote masskid

[Wolfenstinger]

Unvote

Maybe there's strategy in this. :lmao:
In all seriousness, i'll post an actual vote later. Heading out atm and wont be back on till tonight more than likely.

[Masskid]

Unvote

Vote: Nobody (NO-LYNCH)

[SCRIBBLE]

No lynch onlyk helps mafia.

Considering your vote plus your original outlook on this game and you did not answer my question earlier I am strongly considering voting for you, mass.

[Masskid]

Unvote
Vote: Mikey

Rawr

[brett friggin favre]

vote masskid

why? stfu bitch, that's why.

[Chikun]

Vote MassKid

Sorry kiddo.

[Masskid]

vote masskid

why? stfu bitch, that's why.

gewd yes geeeewwwwd, now were rolling :smirk:

[brett friggin favre]

unvote

cuz i had to join in the fun.

[SCRIBBLE]

OK then...

​Vote masskid

[Masskid]

Mikey - 1 (Masskid)
Masskid - 4 (Scribble, Dj_Mikey, Carmichal, Chikun)

With 11 it takes 6 to lynch

[SCRIBBLE]

I would say mass kid is solid because he wants to be lynched but I would also be willing to boot anyone too "busy" for input. Should not have signed up if you are not going to actively participate.

[Masskid]

I'm just going to go with the defense of I'm a vanilla Townie :smirk:

[Erdenay]

[3:53:11 PM] Masskid: just come in the thread and vote on me!

Vote masskid.

[Masskid]

[3:53:11 PM] Masskid: just come in the thread and vote on me!

Vote masskid.

Wtf? i never said that

[Erdenay]

Wtf? i never said that

[3:58:57 PM] Masskid: you werent supposed to post that!

[Masskid]

[3:58:57 PM] Masskid: you werent supposed to post that!

[3:59:34 PM] Tom: I Love Cock!

see we can both do that >.>

[SCRIBBLE]

We should consider he may have specific winning conditions or some type of lynch-based role because of his eagerness to be lynched. Could be bullshit.

Also,

7. No communication outside the thread unless your role allows you to do so and then only in the game's nights.
so just modkill masskid.

Cyber and rape are still unconfirmed. We could lynch them.

[BladeTwinSwords]

STOP!

HAMMERTIME!

Masskid has managed to receive enough votes to be lynched.


As the sun set, a reindeer comes into the clearing.

He looks into the horizon and gazes upon its wonder.

Suddenly he feels a sharp horn ram through his chest.

He stares blankly as his life slowly drains from his body.

"But....why?....." He said slowly.

"Because you were too much of a threat."


Donner, Innocent Vanilla Townie has been killed!

Night Phase 1 has started. You have 24 hours to PM me your actions.

[Masskid]

That would be socializing about the game. What he posted is a fabrication... i think Tom hates me. Also he is not part of the game >.>

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STOP!

HAMMERTIME!


As the sun set, a reindeer comes into the clearing.

He looks into the horizon and gazes upon its wonder.

Suddenly he feels a sharp horn ram through his chest.

He stares blankly as his life slowly drains from his body.

"But....why?....." He said slowly.

"Because you were too much of a threat."


Donner, Innocent Vanilla Townie has been killed!

Night Phase 1 has started. You have 24 hours to PM me your actions.

ummm did you mod kill me then roll onto night?

[SCRIBBLE]

There were not enough votes for a lynch (5).

Was that a modkill?

[Masskid]

There were not enough votes for a lynch (5).

Was that a modkill?

Normally you dont modkill then move to night... that's why i'm confused

[SCRIBBLE]

What you said to tom would be considered against the rules in my book (influencing the game's outcome).

[Masskid]

but he doesnt even exist here O.O

[BladeTwinSwords]

Yes, I would consider that modkillable but that wasn't the reason why.

[SCRIBBLE]

zz Well... then you were lynched. Enjoy death. I only voted for you because you wanted it :( zz

[Masskid]

Well my final words are "Achievement Get: Die First"

[Chikun]

So was this a mod-kill or no?

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[BladeTwinSwords]

No he had certain modifiers.

[BladeTwinSwords]

People who voted to lynch Masskid:

Mikey
Brett
Carm
Chikun

I forgot to add that

Rape$$ also voted for Masskid

[Wolfenstinger]

zzz...fuck sakes masskid... zzz

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

zzzzZZZZzzZZZonly posting this to see what time it isZZZZzzZZzZ

[CYBER]

zzzzZZZZzzZZZonly posting this to see what time it isZZZZzzZZzZ

zzzzz It's tommArrow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxgIbznAV84&t=2m30s) zzzz

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put underlining on the link... forgot what thread it was.. my bad. i know better than to do that -.-

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and of course the underlining doesn't show.. making me edit my damn post for nthn... -.- fml..

[Rapedollar$]

i fucking hate you

[CYBER]

i fucking hate you

zzzzzzzz....stop bitching in ur sleep fucknut ... we have to wake up early in the morning... and stop hogging the covers zzzzzzzzzz

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

zzzzztimecheckzzzzzz

[SCRIBBLE]

Zz we have been sleeping too long. I am sure everyone has to take a piss. Either take us out of this coma or give us catheters zz

[CYBER]

ZZZZzzzz ...fffs.. ppl with actions please send in ur damn actions already so we can go back to the game... ZZZ... FFS mommy... screw the bus!! zzzzzz

[BladeTwinSwords]

All Night Actions have been sent in. From now on you have 24 hours to post your Night Actions or I will assign your power to a random target.

As Day 2 begins, the reindeer start to become a little nervous. They banter between each other as to what may happen next.

"But what if it's me who will die next?!" exclaimed one.

"Only we can decide who lives and who dies." stated another.

While there was a thick stagnant air floating around the North Pole, the reindeer were sure that each would be victorious over their enemies.

It seems no one has been killed.

Day 2 Begins. You all have 48 hours to decide who to lynch next.
With 10 people alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[Rapedollar$]

vote cyber

enjoy your ban.

ill reverse it once i get back from vacation

[Chikun]

So next to nothing was learned other than mafia failing.

[Carmichal]

vote cyber.

chuuu chuuuu here comes the bandwagon

[Chikun]

Must, resist, group, mentality... Also, talking like Shatner.

[brett friggin favre]

vote: carm

following the same pattern as last time, when she was mafia. betcha she's loving the vote train.

[Wolfenstinger]

Vote Scribble

Reason: I missed you. :icon_mrgreen:

[Chikun]

Aren't you as well?

[CYBER]

vote cyber

enjoy your ban.

ill reverse it once i get back from vacation

looooll...
we both know the only reason u're voting me and banning is because of my night joke -.-

did u seriously ban me on sourcebans too? or just voted me here??????


that being said, im not a mafia...
In fact, some people already know that I'm a confirmed townie, and whoever does not believe me, please state ur case, and i'll make sure u believe me by the end of the night. that is all i can say about the matter.

As to who i would vote?
I don't know yet... we're in the same spot as yesterday, only i never had the chance to contribute on day 1 bcos i was at work... hopefully we can try to see if anyone got any confirmed reports at night... don't show urself, that would be dumb, as long as u dnt follow this stupid banwagon on my ass -,-

[Rapedollar$]

did u seriously ban me on sourcebans too?

oh yea. for real for real.

[CYBER]

adding on to the conversation:
Masskid was lynched with 1 less vote.

He either was a hated townie, or 1 of the 5 voters was a double voter.... So in case it's the latter... if such role exist... careful on who you vote for because mafia tends to usually vote between the second and 8th spot out of 10 ppl voting to avoid suspicion, and ur double vote might cause an unfortunate quickhammer, giving mafia the happy coincidence of ending the day early with a lynch without them forcing their hands to make sure someone is lynched...

[Rapedollar$]

People who voted to lynch Masskid:

Mikey
Brett
Carm
Chikun

I forgot to add that

Rape$$ also voted for Masskid

this
kay

[CYBER]

oh yea. for real for real.
Son of a bitch!
i was planning on training for the scrim, i only played 1 game since the last scrim!

u do realize im just gonna blame u for sucking at the scrim as usual right?

btw... do u notice a fucking PATTERN rape? -.-

http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0%3A1%3A29447450&Submit=

ps: i love u

[SCRIBBLE]

Cyber is confirmed town, friendly neighbor.

[CYBER]

Cyber is confirmed town, friendly neighbor.

i see blade sent u my message then.
made sure i notified YOU first... bcos u never trust me! -.-

(had me investigated in 2 games, killed me once, and lynched me like 3 times ...) so yeah, at least u've been informed lol

[What]

hopefully we can try to see if anyone got any confirmed reports at night... don't show urself, that would be dumb,

So lets get some confirmed reports by people not revealing they can confirm a report? What in the hell does that mean?

[What]

i see blade sent u my message then.
made sure i notified YOU first... bcos u never trust me! -.-

(had me investigated in 2 games, killed me once, and lynched me like 3 times ...) so yeah, at least u've been informed lol

But does that mean that scribble is town as well, or that you just told him you were town, meaning you could have proven nothing but your own innocence, or also be pulling a ruse together with scribble.

[CYBER]

So lets get some confirmed reports by people not revealing they can confirm a report? What in the hell does that mean?


i was actually hinting at scribble who got my night message to confirm me as townie without me stating specifically that im the friendly neighbour so that ppl get my confirmed claim from someone else, and not me.

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But does that mean that scribble is town as well, or that you just told him you were town, meaning you could have proven nothing but your own innocence, or also be pulling a ruse together with scribble.

just means that he knows that "I" am confirmed town.
that's the 1 fact we know so far.
we dnt know if scribble is townie helping me claim, or mafia hiding in my shadow.

some if statements :
if scribble dies and is townie, i will be confirmed townie.
if scribble dies and is mafia, it's still ok, bcos if that happens by tomorrow earliest, another player would get my report that im innocent and can confirm me townie.
and let's face it... considering the setup is small, i doubt that the odds would be me hitting 2 mafias... and if im an accomplice, then having them both defending me would be just dumb for mafia no?

i dnt know if i can word this better. but hopefully by tomorrow i'd have informed enough ppl to garantee me as town for the rest of the game. :)

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oh and ... if i die?
town learns absolutely nthn !

so can we put the lynching guns away ? i posted my case, and clearly having me alive is the best move for today bcos that's the only info we have on the table (for now at least... feel free to policy-lynch me on another day if shit hits the fan, i won't even argue with u guys)

[Rapedollar$]

or you both could be mafia and just playing hardline town roles to throw us off.

or is someone claiming to be a cop?

or am i missing somewhere how cyber is confirmed?

[SCRIBBLE]

Cyber is confirmed town, friendly neighbor.


I am town. I think we should consider voting for those who so quickly jumped on the cyber train. Meaning vote for farm as Brett is correct, same strategy as last game.

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Carm, not farm

[brett friggin favre]

Son of a bitch!
i was planning on training for the scrim, i only played 1 game since the last scrim!

u do realize im just gonna blame u for sucking at the scrim as usual right?

btw... do u notice a fucking PATTERN rape? -.-

http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0%3A1%3A29447450&Submit=

ps: i love u

pattern? all i see is owns abusing...she banned an admin. someone needs to talk to her about that.

[SCRIBBLE]

Cyber is confirmed town because of his role. He has the ability to send his identity to one person a night as friendly neighbir . blade delivered the message himself.

[Rapedollar$]

but seriously, with no proof. both of your claims to be town are just claims.

also, last time somebody admitted they had night actions was the mafia don.

or was that just some cheating mexican shit from you cyber.

i thought the only ones who could communicate with each other overnight were mafia.

hence i voted for cyber. and if the vote goes through it will either vindicate or vilify scribble too

[SCRIBBLE]

He didn't communicate with me. Blade informed me out of nowhere that cyber was confirmed town innocent friendly neighbor.

Are you arguing this to distract or pull attention away from the only two people voting for confirmed town, yourself and the bandwagon jumpee?

[Nemesis]

Well for today we'll have to make a choice but tomorrow I can confirm cyber. Cyber confirm with me that you're town tonight or you'll be lynched tomorrow. This way we'll know if he's lying.

[What]

Well for today we'll have to make a choice but tomorrow I can confirm cyber. Cyber confirm with me that you're town tonight or you'll be lynched tomorrow. This way we'll know if he's lying.

That's a terrible idea, if you are mafia, then he will have wasted his confirmation on you, and you can claim never to have gotten it and encourage people to lynch him the next day. Not to mention, if you aren't mafia, then why wouldn't they just kill you tonight, and provide us with no info the next day?

[Nemesis]

We have a doctor. Ill take a prot tonight

[What]

We have a doctor. Ill take a prot tonight

Again, not going to help if you are mafia, you just waste the doctor and cyber's ability.

[Nemesis]

Again, not going to help if you are mafia, you just waste the doctor and cyber's ability. well then good thing I'm not.

[What]

well then good thing I'm not.

Not worth the risk at this point, telegraphing moves is a bad idea, cause then the mafia has an easy path at killing someone at night.

[CYBER]

or you both could be mafia and just playing hardline town roles to throw us off. or is someone claiming to be a cop?or am i missing somewhere how cyber is confirmed? My role allows me to send a name to blade at night and he sends that person a msg confirming that i am town. Ideally i'd wanna send u or carm a msg tonight that im a townie because u are the only 2 ppl lynching me. If there's a cop, he can investigate me too while im hopefully protected for the night. So by the end of the night, i can have 3 of u confirming im town so that i dnt get my ass lynched.--///What im suggesting is that, if u guys don't trust me and the ppl i pick to clear me, by all means: YOU give me a playername (hopefully not pgo) and they can clear me tomorrow morning:) if they dnt claim me, then if im dead and confirmed townie u'd know that the chosen person didnt claim me for wtvr reason, even though claiming me doesn't reveal anything about them at all so they shouldnt be affraid. Ur call who i msg tonight tonight. I can msg u if u want:) /--- typinh this from phone without edits so sry about potenial wall of txt

[Nemesis]

Not worth the risk at this point, telegraphing moves is a bad idea, cause then the mafia has an easy path at killing someone at night. then there's no point taking his word at this point. Plus I don't think we should waste an investigation at this point.

[CYBER]

Well for today we'll have to make a choice but tomorrow I can confirm cyber. Cyber confirm with me that you're town tonight or you'll be lynched tomorrow. This way we'll know if he's lying.ok i will confirm with u at night. But as swear if u're a pgo im gonna rape u till december 25th. No reason for the choice of dates

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That's a terrible idea, if you are mafia, then he will have wasted his confirmation on you, and you can claim never to have gotten it and encourage people to lynch him the next day. Not to mention, if you aren't mafia, then why wouldn't they just kill you tonight, and provide us with no info the next day?well a doc would protect nem while i confirm. If he doesnt confirm me we lynch him, and in time we tell if he's legit

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Sry it just updated the rest of the thread. If u guys think that nem is a bad target for me to msg, then give me THREe names of ur choice, i will contact 1 of them randomly and they can confirm me. This way mafia has to gamble to prevent me from confirming and the nxt day i'll announce who i msgd in case they decide to screw me over and i get lynched. Simple. Effective

[What]

well a doc would protect nem while i confirm. If he doesnt confirm me we lynch him, and in time we tell if he's legit

Thats a bad idea, cause now you are making yourself a target for the mafia since they will know you are not protected, and like i said, if nem is mafia, wasting two abilities on him is a terrible idea.

And what if you are lying? then Nem can't confirm it and you can persuade us to lynch him.

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Also worst case scenario, you messaged mafia on the first night, and now, if Nem is mafia, and you message him tonight, the only people who know you are town are those who already know you're town and are working to prevent the others from knowing information with certainty.

[CYBER]

Thats a bad idea, cause now you are making yourself a target for the mafia since they will know you are not protected, and like i said, if nem is mafia, wasting two abilities on him is a terrible idea.

And what if you are lying? then Nem can't confirm it and you can persuade us to lynch him.


true.
but mafia will try to kill one of us nway right?

so by u guys picking 3 random ppl, i have no choice in the matter.
i will pick one of those ppl to confirm im a townie.

the doc can protect me, or one of the 3 or none at all.
mafia killing me serves them no purposes. i claimed i have no dangerous night ability. if i died, in fact, it would only prove me innocent townie, which is the whole point of this.

in fact, they might try to get to 1 of my 3 ppl, and they'd have to gamble on who they kill.
and if they killed the person i was trying to convey a msg to, then u can lynch me and prove ur point.
actually? ideally u'd wanna lynch scribble ( sry man, just using logic here) because he confirmed me, and if he's a townie then im 100% townie no questions asked.

another possibility is that i get roleblocked today by mafia, making me look horribly bad tomorrow. a cop can clear me, but if he/she doesnt wanna waste their ability on me, then i guess i'll be targetted for a lynch-wagon tomorrow... but again,,,, lynching me tomorrow would still leave the town with no confirmed townie, whereas lynching scribbs (again man, im rly rly sry, but u're the only who knows my honest intentions) then i'd be confirmed townie if he's a townie...

if he ISNT a townie, then woohoo for town bcos u guys got a mafia early in game, and ur horns will turn to me for a second mafia kill and gg if there's only 2 mafia.


if my reasoning is flaw'd correct me. but this is what im thinking about tonight...
im not saying im important to town, im actually quite expendable and willing to get policy lynched if town has no gd targets, but considering we have nthn to go on, it's my opinion that my plan above is a genuinely gd alternative to doing nthn.

thoughts?

[What]

A big problem with last game was too many lynches in order to gain information, and before you know it, 4 townies are dead and no one is still certain of anything. I understand what you are saying, that if he is town you are town, and if not, well then thats a win, but what does confirming you are town at this point really do for us?

[Chikun]

How about Cyber chooses Nem, What, or Brett. Whoever is doctor can choose to protect Cyber and the three possibles can have security through obscurity and the next day Cyber can name who he shared with and if they don't fess up and confirm he's town then we lynch Cyber, Scribble, or the named target and start getting useful information. I don't trust Cyber and Scribble enough yet to let him pick someone that's completely random yet I also don't distrust him enough to suggest throwing him to the wolves. Who ever is cop should investigate one of the five names listed here to help the information gathering.

[CYBER]

u seem to have missed the fact that i dnt rly care if i msg'd nem or someone else.
hell u can pick the random ppl u want me to confirm with if u dnt trust me.

again possible outcomes:
1- i chose someone out of the 3, we both survive and im confirmed townie at least for the time being.
2- i chose someone , i die. im confirmed townie and it's the same as if u guys lynched me now for nthn
3- i chose soemoen , that person dies. considering mafia is doing the kills, then that proves that they were trying to prevent me from confirming. and thereby confirming nway.
4- i chose someone, i get roleblocked, i look bad tomorrow , and u can lynch me anyway unless a cop clears me, or unless u guys just fucking trust me -.-
5- i chose someone , that person is mafia, they confirm me nway to stay hidden, but i'd be confirmed bcos im a townie.
6- i am actually lying my ass off, i chose a mafia to confirm me and ask them to lie for me, shit hits the fan, u lynch me, if im a mafia then u know who the other mafia is. if im a townie, then u guys just dun goof'd bcos that shows nthn about the ppl i contacted...
7- cop can either investigate me or scribble who confirmed that im a townie. if scribble is innocent, i am innocent by consequence. if scribble is guilty, then gr8! i'd gladly lynch myself since we already got a mafia! and i already said im expendable when WE ACTUALLY HAVE SMTHN BETTER TO GO ABOUT!:)

is this logic flawd?


refresh and read what i posted after u

[What]

I still think nem is a bad option to have out there since he went out of the way to volunteer his services with consequences if it wasn't followed through. That rings too suspicious at this point to waste time on him with night actions.

[Chikun]

but what does confirming you are town at this point really do for us?

It eliminates a suspect you tard.

[What]

it does, but at the possible high cost of eliminating another townie, since he does not profess to have a real good power ability, i dont see him as a priority to confirm at this point.

[CYBER]

I still think nem is a bad option to have out there since he went out of the way to volunteer his services with consequences if it wasn't followed through. That rings too suspicious at this point to waste time on him with night actions.
i agree about the volunteering, that's actually where the idea of a roleblocker hit me. bcos if was a roleblocked by nem (or someone else rly) then mafia would have managed to get an extra kill for free bcos u guys would lynch my ass because of fucking nem's ultimatum...


what do u guys tihnk of the scenarios i posted?

[Chikun]

Well if people have a better idea go ahead and throw it out there or sit down and shut up.

[CYBER]

u seem to have missed the fact that i dnt rly care if i msg'd nem or someone else.
hell u can pick the random ppl u want me to confirm with if u dnt trust me.

again possible outcomes:
1- i chose someone out of the 3, we both survive and im confirmed townie at least for the time being.
2- i chose someone , i die. im confirmed townie and it's the same as if u guys lynched me now for nthn
3- i chose soemoen , that person dies. considering mafia is doing the kills, then that proves that they were trying to prevent me from confirming. and thereby confirming nway.
4- i chose someone, i get roleblocked, i look bad tomorrow , and u can lynch me anyway unless a cop clears me, or unless u guys just fucking trust me -.-
5- i chose someone , that person is mafia, they confirm me nway to stay hidden, but i'd be confirmed bcos im a townie.
6- i am actually lying my ass off, i chose a mafia to confirm me and ask them to lie for me, shit hits the fan, u lynch me, if im a mafia then u know who the other mafia is. if im a townie, then u guys just dun goof'd bcos that shows nthn about the ppl i contacted...
7- cop can either investigate me or scribble who confirmed that im a townie. if scribble is innocent, i am innocent by consequence. if scribble is guilty, then gr8! i'd gladly lynch myself since we already got a mafia! and i already said im expendable when WE ACTUALLY HAVE SMTHN BETTER TO GO ABOUT!:)

is this logic flawd?


refresh and read what i posted after u

although i would look bad tomorrow? but that would be the best thing town can do. and it's to investigate scribble.

the cop needs to investigate scribble bcos that's 2 innocents for the price of 1 investigation. i know i just put a target on scribbs accidentally, but it doesnt help mafia to kill scribbs bcos if he's not with them, it would only serve my goal. they'd probably rather keep him alive, so in fact, i just made sure scribble survives an extra night.

and again, if scribble is guilty on investigations, then that's gr8! if he isn't 2 innocents for the price of 1 investigation.

meanwhile, i'd try to msg someone anyway, if they dnt roleblock me, we'd have someone else confirm me, and the cop can investigate other ppl etc...
at least by the next day, we'd have either 2 confirmed townies, or 1 mafia identified and ppl lynching me and i wont even mind rly. (no..im not a jester... just makes sense)

[What]

Well if people have a better idea go ahead and throw it out there or sit down and shut up.

Well it seems to me that Cyber's whole ability is to get himself confirmed as a townie eventually. By eliminating another town, or contriving some plan to confirm him now, essentially we make Cyber's ability worthless for the rest of the game. We should focus on people's actions thus far and how they are similar or different to past games, since that would give us a better chance of hitting someone.

I'd suggest looking hard at Carm, Brett, and Wolf right now.

Wolf is again just throwing votes around, last time he was town, but he could be doing the same thing as a mafia now to throw people off.

Carm, doing pretty much what she did last time when she was mafia, was a little different when she was town.

Brett, again just likes to sit back and try and conduct people's thoughts, albeit he was only godfather the last two times he played so not really much to go off of here, but he of course warrents a close look throughout the game just due to that playing style when he was a bad guy.

[CYBER]

Well it seems to me that Cyber's whole ability is to get himself confirmed as a townie eventually. By eliminating another town, or contriving some plan to confirm him now, essentially we make Cyber's ability worthless for the rest of the game. We should focus on people's actions thus far and how they are similar or different to past games, since that would give us a better chance of hitting someone.

I'd suggest looking hard at Carm, Brett, and Wolf right now.

Wolf is again just throwing votes around, last time he was town, but he could be doing the same thing as a mafia now to throw people off.

Carm, doing pretty much what she did last time when she was mafia, was a little different when she was town.

Brett, again just likes to sit back and try and conduct people's thoughts, albeit he was only godfather the last two times he played so not really much to go off of here, but he of course warrents a close look throughout the game just due to that playing style when he was a bad guy.

i realize i dnt have any strong ability to help town such as being a cop or vig or smthn.

but i CAN help town in a way, and it's clearing an innocent along with me like i mentioned above.
and although my ability is not smthn i'm too excited about, im trying to use to my best in order to mind fuck the mafia it not knowing who to target while the townies with BETTER roles than me do their shit.

this is the only thing town has to go on right about now bcos no one else is talking...
if someone has a better idea, i'd love to discuss it... for now... i cant think of anything else to do, feel free to jog my logic

[SCRIBBLE]

How many times do I have to say get rid of the people too busy to come post. Don't join the game if you're not going to contribute. Carm is doing the same shit again.

[What]

I don't see how your ability really helps us confirm someone else is town, without some sort of follow up investigation, or killing someone to prove a point. I don't feel, even if you are lying, that you are a priority at this point. I may be wrong, but i do not like telling everyone what we should do at night, since it will reveal too much to the mafia. They already know who is town and who is mafia, one of our only strengths is having power roles survive and bring down the mafia through investigation or other things.

[CYBER]

btw. we do have 1 other confirmed fact.

Rape has to be a townie.
There were 4 votes on masskid, and then he got lynched.

this implied 1 confirmed fact, and 1 of 2 possible facts:
- confirmed fact: Rape's vote was never actually posted, so blade must have made Rape (known for being the ban-hammer guy) a forcefull lyncher. ie he HAS to hammer a vote if it is going to lynch someone. This is "usually" a town ability. so my bet is that rape is a townie for now.

1 of the 2 following:
- masskid was a hated townie. ( which would explain why he only needed 5 instead of 6 votes, thus FORCING rape's passive ability to proc and rape his ass when the count was 4 lynchers)
- one of the ppl who voted was a double voter, and so the 4 votes were actually 5 votes. and rape was forced to quickhammer it.

i remember from talking with blade before about possible setups for someone of my games , and he specifically mentionned that he HATES double voters like a mad man bcos he hates keeping track with this. and also, masskid fits the role of a hated townie (which is usually kept hidden by the mod... well... i would have kept it hidden LOL)...

so yeah, with these assumptions and my logic, i would conclude that Rape is a forceful quickhammering townie, and masskid was a hated townie..


If cop confirms scribble tonight, then by tomorrow, we'd have me, scribble, rape and the cop (who shall remain hidden) know that they are townies. and we'd be a lot better off than today.

[Chikun]

As my previous experience has taught me, investigation results can be bullshit. I doubt Blade would make a bullshit cop like some other mods not to be named, he still could be a Don and immune to it. I'm more for your theory that Scobble is going to be immune to a night kill because it would mean Cyber is innocent by proxy and mafia can't be targeted by each other.

This theory doesn't in any way make Scrobble innocent.

[CYBER]

I don't see how your ability really helps us confirm someone else is town, without some sort of follow up investigation, or killing someone to prove a point. I don't feel, even if you are lying, that you are a priority at this point. I may be wrong, but i do not like telling everyone what we should do at night, since it will reveal too much to the mafia. They already know who is town and who is mafia, one of our only strengths is having power roles survive and bring down the mafia through investigation or other things.

what i say is smthn, what ppl actually do is smthn else.
in fact, if i ask somoene to protect you, mafia can't tell if the doc will actually focus on you, or someone else.
and if the doc doesn't protect you, there's a chance mafia assumes he will, and wont kill you( this is an example).
and so forth... what we SAY is different than what the power roles might actually do. this only helps us defend ourselves by making mafia confused of whether we will be going for obvious moves or completely non-obvious ones....

and that is true.. I AM NOT A PRIORITY. i can only help right now with providing my godsent intellect ( this is supposed to be funny), and be a confirmed townie...
priority wise? i am not that important. and i would gladly bite the bullet instead of someone else. but im stilll waiting for someone to provide us with a better course of action.....



scribble is right... ffs ppl be active! ... i own almost 70% of the posts so far alone

[What]

If cop confirms scribble tonight, then by tomorrow, we'd have me, scribble, rape and the cop (who shall remain hidden) know that they are townies. and we'd be a lot better off than today.

And how does the cop remain hidden AND confirm that scribble is innocent?

[CYBER]

And how does the cop remain hidden AND confirm that scribble is innocent?

i didn't think this through, but i guess it would be 1 less vote on scribble?

he could always claim and a doc can protect him while we follow the cop...

but no. that would not be the best move right now...
but it will be when the cop has enough investigations to either get a mafia or clear many of us at the same time.

[SCRIBBLE]

Consider that those not discussing this might have a reason for not sticking their nose in this and making themselves more suspicious.

[What]

Consider that those not discussing this might have a reason for not sticking their nose in this and making themselves more suspicious.

I am , but don't want to be too hasty, we have time to keep talking for a while before we build another train.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

this in fighting does us absolutely nothing. What is trying effortlessly to tell everyone they are wrong and that he is right. Cyber is fabricating a story to confirm him as town in hopes he will survive longer then in toms game. Scribb has provided useful insight, all the while some have provided nothing. We are back at day 1, with 0 credible info and a lynch must be made. What happened last game is people started pointing fingers way to early and started claiming roles way to early. Mafia failed LAWL we are graced with a chance to redeem day 1.

Vote: Carm

Has contributed the least among all.

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or perhaps we can get another vanilla townie to come out from the brush and take one for the team? All i know is we cant fight like you are now.

[What]

this in fighting does us absolutely nothing. What is trying effortlessly to tell everyone they are wrong and that he is right. Cyber is fabricating a story to confirm him as town in hopes he will survive longer then in toms game. Scribb has provided useful insight, all the while some have provided nothing. We are back at day 1, with 0 credible info and a lynch must be made. What happened last game is people started pointing fingers way to early and started claiming roles way to early. Mafia failed LAWL we are graced with a chance to redeem day 1.
.

None of this is happening mikey, I suggest you re-read. I haven't tried to convince anyone I am right, simply that some of the proposed plans are not well designed.

Its interesting that you dismiss Cyber off hand like that, and support Scribb for his insights, from which I have seen have no been any more or any less than other players at this point.

Based on your analytical skills alone, especially from last game, I suggest you slow down, and think things through before you say them.

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Also, no one is fighting either, very civil discourse, and to suggest to kill a VT for no reason?

that makes no sense. You are not looking very good right now.

[Chikun]

The issue with Cyber and Scrobble should be left alone for now, not forgotten, unless Scribbs dies to confirm Cyber's story. That's the only definitive way I see of making Cyber truly innocent as Scribbs could easily be town and could easily be the mafia don to just save his ass.

Otherwise I believe me and Mikey are on the same page.

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I meant to say town Or mafia in that middle bit.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

None of this is happening mikey, I suggest you re-read. I haven't tried to convince anyone I am right, simply that some of the proposed plans are not well designed.

Its interesting that you dismiss Cyber off hand like that, and support Scribb for his insights, from which I have seen have no been any more or any less than other players at this point.

Based on your analytical skills alone, especially from last game, I suggest you slow down, and think things through before you say them.

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Also, no one is fighting either, very civil discourse, and to suggest to kill a VT for no reason?

that makes no sense. You are not looking very good right now.


Well, the VT suggestion was based off some reading i did. Randomly lynch someone and risk them being a useful asset to the team vs lynching a known non power role, saving all the rest of the power roles for another night of investigating ect.

I see value is confirming as many townies as possible from the beginning but agree with you in regards to not wasting resources on people who claim they are useless out side of voting during the day. Considering we have so little time to come to a conclusion and a large portion of that time will be spent by a majority in bed catching ZZZZ's the back and fourth needs to find closure soon.

Lets say we roll with cybers plan, He isnt roleblocked, and all protections make there mark. What do we really have going into day 3? That we can now confirm that scrobb and cyber, along with whom ever cyber sends the message to are 100% town? that is 4 confirmed townies in one night.

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excuse my horrible math, 3 confirmed townies.

[What]

4 confirmed in one night? I assume you are counting the cop, and the fourth would be...... who? The guy cyber talks to? Him talking to someone only confirms he is town, it doesn't let us know who he talks to is also town.

[Chikun]

excuse my horrible math,

No, you should be lynched on principle.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

4 confirmed in one night? I assume you are counting the cop, and the fourth would be...... who? The guy cyber talks to? Him talking to someone only confirms he is town, it doesn't let us know who he talks to is also town. This is assuming cyber can only successfully use his power with townies. I could be wrong, perhaps cyber can confirm that?

[Rapedollar$]

unvote

... trixy mexicans

[Chikun]

This is assuming cyber can only successfully use his power with townies. I could be wrong, perhaps cyber can confirm that?

I'll confirm that Cyber can hit anyone regardless of alignment. Otherwise that would prove Scrobbert is innocent by proxy.

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Making this discussion irrelevant.

[What]

This is assuming cyber can only successfully use his power with townies. I could be wrong, perhaps cyber can confirm that?

You mis-read, confirms that cyber is town not the other guy.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

You mis-read, confirms that cyber is town not the other guy.

Well, the table is open. What do you suggest, if not cybers plan.

[Nemesis]

Cyber, we don't know that there is a roleblocker out there, and we don't know whose side they are one, they can go either way. Also, you don't want the cop to confirm too early in case the mafia gets the doc that night and there's not enough time to find out who the mafia are.

[What]

I've already suggested who we should consider and debate for now, we shouldn't worry so much about telegraphing our plans to confirm town, and worry more about finding the Mafia.

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Cyber, we don't know that there is a roleblocker out there, and we don't know whose side they are one, they can go either way. Also, you don't want the cop to confirm too early in case the mafia gets the doc that night and there's not enough time to find out who the mafia are.

And who is to say there is a cop and a doctor?

[Nemesis]

I've already suggested who we should consider and debate for now, we shouldn't worry so much about telegraphing our plans to confirm town, and worry more about finding the Mafia.

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And who is to say there is a cop and a doctor?

Blade said he was going for a much more conventional game. You gotta have some form of investigative role, and there's gotta be some form of protection for them. Could be no doc and cop gets vests or something though.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I've already suggested who we should consider and debate for now, we shouldn't worry so much about telegraphing our plans to confirm town, and worry more about finding the Mafia.

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And who is to say there is a cop and a doctor?

Well, seeing as how mafia failed last night, the possibility of a doctor raise an eyebrow.

Nem also made a very lose claim about being able to investigate, if i am not mistaken.

[What]

Well, seeing as how mafia failed last night, the possibility of a doctor raise an eyebrow.

Nem also made a very lose claim about being able to investigate, if i am not mistaken.

You are mistaken, he wasn't implying that.

[Nemesis]

Well, seeing as how mafia failed last night, the possibility of a doctor raise an eyebrow.

Nem also made a very lose claim about being able to investigate, if i am not mistaken.

I think you are mistaken, but I could have unknowingly.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I think you are mistaken, but I could have unknowingly.


Well for today we'll have to make a choice but tomorrow I can confirm cyber. Cyber confirm with me that you're town tonight or you'll be lynched tomorrow. This way we'll know if he's lying.

When i first read it was how it came off. Confirming it now, not so much.

[Chikun]

And who is to say there is a cop and a doctor?

Because there needs to be an investigator and since no one was murdered I assume their target was protected by a Doc.

[Nemesis]

When i first read it was how it came off. Confirming it now, not so much.

Ah, it was meant more of a direct way to solve the problem rather than cunting around the bush.

[What]

When i first read it was how it came off. Confirming it now, not so much.

Thats what I mean Mikey, slow down, read and re-read.

[Chikun]

Well I'm going drinking, don't do anything crazy. We have time folks.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Thats what I mean Mikey, slow down, read and re-read. in my defense, while you all share insight, i am sleeping. I had literally been awake for 3 min when i started reading posts. Due to time zone constraints, i may or may not have become rather impatient with discussion over the last games. This is something iv learned while playing.

[What]

in my defense, while you all share insight, i am sleeping. I had literally been awake for 3 min when i started reading posts. Due to time zone constraints, i may or may not have become rather impatient with discussion over the last games. This is something iv learned while playing.

If you have only been awake for 3 minutes and havent had time to review anything, don't post anything posing as an insight since it will be inherently flawed. I worry, since in the last game, no one hurt the town more than you. Even after Chikun essentially laid out the whole game , you still went the other direction. Sometimes you make good posts of solid facts, but the conclusions you draw from them are almost always wrong.

If you just woke up, like I said, give it a bit, think over what you are seeing, and then see if your conclusions match the facts or stray from them in some way.

[Nemesis]

If you have only been awake for 3 minutes and havent had time to review anything, don't post anything posing as an insight since it will be inherently flawed. I worry, since in the last game, no one hurt the town more than you. Even after Chikun essentially laid out the whole game , you still went the other direction. Sometimes you make good posts of solid facts, but the conclusions you draw from them are almost always wrong.

If you just woke up, like I said, give it a bit, think over what you are seeing, and then see if your conclusions match the facts or stray from them in some way.

And the other times he talks in so many circles it's the fucking Daytona 500.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

And the other times he talks in so many circles it's the fucking Daytona 500.

My feelings, they hurt a little.

Anywho, gotta go. Ill be back when you all wake up.

[Nemesis]

Quick! lynch him while he sleeps!

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Quick! lynch him while he sleeps!
Im awake and vigilante now buddy pal. MUAHAHA

[Nemesis]

Im awake and vigilante now buddy pal. MUAHAHA


SHHH! everyone hide. He'll fall asleep soon.

[CYBER]

This is assuming cyber can only successfully use his power with townies. I could be wrong, perhaps cyber can confirm that?

to answer this?
i don't know. it didn't say anything in my role, but it could be a hidden mod thing.. which i doubt.

if u want an assumption to go on? i can declare myself townie to a random person i chose.
THEY would know im a town, but i can't know anything about them. it's a 1-way thing and i cannot know if im sending my msgs to the gd or bad ppl..


also mikey, What's right. and he actually used MY words regarding how u play.
u're not dumb, i was watching ur game, u actually throw in some very controversial and VERY VERY good points that no one else did. (at some points i had bets with What on whether u'd be the one figuring it out...)

but this is what usually happens with u :
*mikey joins the convo, didnt read evreythinng*
"smthn smthn blah blah, i make no sens at all"
"smthn smthn blah blah, i bring a very very good point that if ppl actually listened to, they might have broken the game very early"
"another gd point"
"something completely dumb and stupid that contradicts one of the points u said"
"and blah blah, because of all this logic above, we conclude that "something completely irrelevant to the points u brought"


in conclusion? i can always count on u to bring gd premises to the table, but im sry i just can never trust in ur conclusions.

dnt take this wrong, it's what i saw. and again, u can be a gd player if u actually slowed down and broke down ur points instead saying gd shit and then jumping the gun on the worst idea that could have come to mind.
i cant blame u... i do the same sometimes...

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that being said, we still have nthn else to go on right now...
Carm's being afk again... and although i could make up some reason as to why i'd wanna vote her bcos she looks suspicious, but honestly? if anything i'd vote her off just bcos she's always afk, whether intended or not, and i'd much rather a conversation with gd flow than a game that waits on her actions...
+ she doesn't love me... that's mostly it.

Vote: Carm.
Reason: i feel she could be a liability to the game by never helping us develop the conversationg and simply letting us go into circular reasoning with no conclusion because she has nthn to add to the conversation... i hope im not hurting town with this... but she's the only one worth lynching for me...no one else has given me a reason to do so yet...so there.

[What]

Can we get a vote count?

[Nemesis]

Cyber, what is you're role? I don't think you've said it yet, just claimed you were townie and what ability you had, (which kinda sucks). Also, why pick scribbs? how could you trust him?

[What]

Cyber, what is you're role? I don't think you've said it yet, just claimed you were townie and what ability you had, (which kinda sucks). Also, why pick scribbs? how could you trust him?

He said he was a friendly neighbor, and it probably doesn't matter who he chose on the first day, since if they did not confirm the message and lied about it, that would be very telling and could possibly backfire.

[CYBER]

Cyber, what is you're role? I don't think you've said it yet, just claimed you were townie and what ability you had, (which kinda sucks). Also, why pick scribbs? how could you trust him?friendly neighbour is the role. Dancer was the name. And why i chose scribbs? I said it as soon as he claimed me. I had to pick a random player. He had to be active enough, a decent player, someome with authority figure that wouldn't look shady as fuck for backing me (imagine i chose wolf, i'd be signing my own death warrant), but i mostly chose him bcos in almost ever gamr we played together, he either tried to trick me or investogated me when he was cop bcos he never trusts in me... So i needed to make sure that a possible random lyncher against me knows the truth and doesn't screw me over. -////////////////---------- U and brett were also a choice, but u're reasonable enough to know if someone is lying through their teeth, and i figured u guys can wait a bit. So yeah, that's my own reason why i chose scribbs when i have no other info to go on.

[Nemesis]

friendly neighbour is the role. Dancer was the name. And why i chose scribbs? I said it as soon as he claimed me. I had to pick a random player. He had to be active enough, a decent player, someome with authority figure that wouldn't look shady as fuck for backing me (imagine i chose wolf, i'd be signing my own death warrant), but i mostly chose him bcos in almost ever gamr we played together, he either tried to trick me or investogated me when he was cop bcos he never trusts in me... So i needed to make sure that a possible random lyncher against me knows the truth and doesn't screw me over. -////////////////---------- U and brett were also a choice, but u're reasonable enough to know if someone is lying through their teeth, and i figured u guys can wait a bit. So yeah, that's my own reason why i chose scribbs when i have no other info to go on.

Checks out for now.

is carm even alive? she's posted on other threads but not here...

[BladeTwinSwords]

Current Lynch List:

Carm: Cyber, Mikey, Brett
Scribble: Wolf
Cyber: Carm

[Chikun]

Chikun reporting in.

Fuck, no colors, not voting yet.

Thinking Michelle for her lack of insight.

[What]

It is concerning that she is posting elsewhere but not here, though I don't know if that's a sign of her being mafia or just a terrible player. As it stands now, I will likely place my vote for her before I go to bed if I don't see a good reason to change my mind.

[Nemesis]

Carm, since we know you can read this, you should give a reason not to vote you...

[Chikun]

She's a jester.

[Nemesis]

She's a jester. nah, you'd think a jester would at least try.

[What]

She's a jester.

Why does everyone always think there is a jester? And even if there is, the game continues anyway.

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and so you want to set the precedent of keeping people alive who dont say anything?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

even if she was a jester, last time i checked, jesters dont kill anyone when they are lynched. Only Bombs and some Vengeful Saint role or something.

[What]

Jester will "win" the game if they get lynched, but the game still continues until its conclusion, at least I believe that's how its usually done.

[Nemesis]

Jester will "win" the game if they get lynched, but the game still continues until its conclusion, at least I believe that's how its usually done.

Ya that's pretty much it. A Jester winning or losing has no effect on the rest of the players.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

so what do we lose by lynching a jester?

[Nemesis]

so what do we lose by lynching a jester?

The only downside is that she's not a jester and is something useful, possibly an investigator who doesn't have any information yet, and doesn't want to be a target. Although you'd think that person would pipe up at some point.

[Chikun]

Ok, she's probably not a jester, just keeping things lively while beerpong team seeding is sorted. Regardless, once I get home and can use colors ill vote her out. What's the count at?

[What]

so what do we lose by lynching a jester?
did you just not read the posts above?

[Nemesis]

Ok, she's probably not a jester, just keeping things lively while beerpong team seeding is sorted. Regardless, once I get home and can use colors ill vote her out. What's the count at?

soo....you call her a jester, but now she's not a jester, but now you still want to vote her out? that's really fishy.

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you were also eager to jump on the masskid bandwagon...

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Vote Chikun

[What]

I can't think of a role with an inherent post restriction or limit, so her being unresponsive, despite posting on other things, and likely viewing the thread, worries me.

[Nemesis]

I can't think of a role with an inherent post restriction or limit, so her being unresponsive, despite posting on other things, and likely viewing the thread, worries me.

lol Jester can have a post limit. I don't think she is, but it's just funny you said that.

[What]

Well, I didn't hear anything to change my mind, so

Vote Carm

I hope she isn't town, but I would hope town would say something. And if she is jester, at least a hindrance is gone, and she can rub her victory in Brett's face, among other things.

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And for this day she posted one thing, a vote for cyber, and that's it, can't imagine a post restriction being set to 1.

[Nemesis]

Well, I didn't hear anything to change my mind, so

Vote Carm

I hope she isn't town, but I would hope town would say something. And if she is jester, at least a hindrance is gone, and she can rub her victory in Brett's face, among other things.

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And for this day she posted one thing, a vote for cyber, and that's it, can't imagine a post restriction being set to 1.

You should vote chikun.

[What]

You should vote chikun.

I don't see a reason for that as of now, he is a solid player who has joked around with some random stuff in the past. I wouldn't hold some poorly articulated comments against him right now.

[Nemesis]

I don't see a reason for that as of now, he is a solid player who has joked around with some random stuff in the past. I wouldn't hold some poorly articulated comments against him right now. Bad call. she's doing nothing as of now. He's flip-flopped twice and just throwing votes out there.

[Chikun]

He's flip-flopped twice and just throwing votes out there.

Considering I haven't done any of those makes you a massive liar and a massive threat. Everyone throws a random vote on first day, suggesting otherwise is absurd. Also, I have never switched a vote and haven't even voted yet for today. What kind of picture are you painting because it isn't pretty for a liar.

I'm still with-holding my vote because confirmed liars are trouble.

[Nemesis]

Considering I haven't done any of those makes you a massive liar and a massive threat. Everyone throws a random vote on first day, suggesting otherwise is absurd. Also, I have never switched a vote and haven't even voted yet for today. What kind of picture are you painting because it isn't pretty for a liar.

I'm still with-holding my vote because confirmed liars are trouble.


She's a jester.


Ok, she's probably not a jester. Regardless, once I get home and can use colors ill vote her out.

You're all over the place.

[What]

You're all over the place.

He suggested that she may be a Jester, then after people said some things, he realized that is unlikely. I don't see this as "all over the place".

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Meanwhile, its another day and Carm still hasn't posted here, while continuing to post elsewhere.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

considering i am undermined in my abilities to come to rational conclusions. What do we conclude if carm gets lynched and ends up being townie? Is there an incentive? Who offers the best incentive and reward for our efforts by being lynched? Thoughts?

[BladeTwinSwords]

Just a quick update:

Carm: Brett, Mikey, Cyber, What
Scribble: Wolf
Cyber: Carm
Chikun: Nemesis

[CYBER]

considering i am undermined in my abilities to come to rational conclusions. What do we conclude if carm gets lynched and ends up being townie? Is there an incentive? Who offers the best incentive and reward for our efforts by being lynched? Thoughts? asking ur same question with a different wording: if she is a townie now, what gd did she bring to the table other than mass hysteria regarding her alignment? What's funny is that i'm almost sure she's a townie, but i'd rather lynch her or my own ass than to accidentally lynch a power role. I personally like to believe that i can at least offer some help in discussions and i can be cleared townie as opposed to her...And if SHE is a power role, then fuck it, she wasn't gonna be useful nway if she causes so much panic intentionally to the point where almost noone would believe a claim she makes. She's screwing herself over with her own hands.

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Not saying we should all jump on the choochoo train. If someone can clear her then fine... But her only post was a voting me and potentially starting a banwagon without explanation and specifically joke about a banwagon coming and then she went blank? For a good player townie? this Makes no sense. Also another 24 hour passed, usually if she had a post restriction she'd be able to post another time if once daily,,,, and if she had an game post restriction, u'd think she would save that post for if she needed to defend herself like now instead of posting a useless vote on me without details... And nthn afterwards

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

asking ur same question with a different wording: if she is a townie now, what gd did she bring to the table other than mass hysteria regarding her alignment? What's funny is that i'm almost sure she's a townie, but i'd rather lynch her or my own ass than to accidentally lynch a power role. I personally like to believe that i can at least offer some help in discussions and i can be cleared townie as opposed to her...And if SHE is a power role, then fuck it, she wasn't gonna be useful nway if she causes so much panic intentionally to the point where almost noone would believe a claim she makes. She's screwing herself over with her own hands.

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Not saying we should all jump on the choochoo train. If someone can clear her then fine... But her only post was a voting me and potentially starting a banwagon without explanation and specifically joke about a banwagon coming and then she went blank? For a good player townie? this Makes no sense. Also another 24 hour passed, usually if she had a post restriction she'd be able to post another time if once daily,,,, and if she had an game post restriction, u'd think she would save that post for if she needed to defend herself like now instead of posting a useless vote on me without details... And nthn afterwards

I understand and agree with the fact that, no matter her alignment, she has and very well may provide 0 contribution to our cause. Yet that still does not answer my question. If we lynch carm we will be heading into day 3. We have yet to gain any formidable evidence. What will we gain? Will we gain anything more then getting rid of a hindrance?

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do we place hope in night events providing evidence?

[Wolfenstinger]

Unvote

I think I'm caught up...somebody want to go over it just incase

So, we have the Carm Bandwagon slowly departing, Cyber is the friendly neighborhood spider-man that has visited Scribble and kissed him in that upside down fashion, and Chikun being flippy floppy (according to Nemesis). Right?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Unvote

I think I'm caught up...somebody want to go over it just incase

So, we have the Carm Bandwagon slowly departing, Cyber is the friendly neighborhood spider-man that has visited Scribble and kissed him in that upside down fashion, and Chikun being flippy floppy (according to Nemesis). Right?

I think a vote lynch on carm is pretty much unanimous. Nem is the only one arguing against it at this point.

[BladeTwinSwords]

That fact that she provides 0 evidence is called a policy-lynch. This basically states "We aren't lynching you because we think you are mafia but because you are either providing no help or negatively impacting the progress of the innocents"

[Masskid]

That fact that she provides 0 evidence is called a policy-lynch. This basically states "We aren't lynching you because we think you are mafia but because you are either providing no help or negatively impacting the progress of the innocents"
>.> are you moderating this game or trying to coach it? Stop giving people ideas!

[BladeTwinSwords]

>.> are you moderating this game or trying to coach it? Stop giving people ideas!

Giving people ideas? They are already doing a policy-lynch. I simply gave them the term for what they are doing.


On another note.

People who have not voted yet:

Scribble, Chikun, Wolf, Rape$$

[CYBER]

That fact that she provides 0 evidence is called a policy-lynch. This basically states "We aren't lynching you because we think you are mafia but because you are either providing no help or negatively impacting the progress of the innocents"

>.> are you moderating this game or trying to coach it? Stop giving people ideas!

I already specifically mentioned policy-lynching Carm and me if we have nothing to go on and explained what policy lynching is :D


Albeit he didn't really give any ideas because i said it like 6 times so far, but i'd ask the mod to stop stealing my thunder >_< :P

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People who have not voted yet:

Scribble, Chikun, Wolf, Rape$$

ACTUALLY.
I just want to test my theory. Carm has 4 votes on her now?

if yes, then I'm willing to bet you guys that if any of Scriblbe, chikun or wolf vote on carm, it will be a lynch lock because i'm almost positive that rape has a passive and forceful quick-hammering ability without him even posting a vote.
This would prove my point that Rape is actually Townie since this role is usually not given to mafia.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I already specifically mentioned policy-lynching Carm and me if we have nothing to go on and explained what policy lynching is :D


Albeit he didn't really give any ideas because i said it like 6 times so far, but i'd ask the mod to stop stealing my thunder >_< :P

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ACTUALLY.
I just want to test my theory. Carm has 4 votes on her now?

if yes, then I'm willing to bet you guys that if any of Scriblbe, chikun or wolf vote on carm, it will be a lynch lock because i'm almost positive that rape has a passive and forceful quick-hammering ability without him even posting a vote.
This would prove my point that Rape is actually Townie since this role is usually not given to mafia.

Sounds like a dangerous ability later on in the game though. If it is passive that is.

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also, if rape has this ability i could only find two things he might be.

A Hammerer is a role that passively hammers players. This effect will occur if a player only needs one more vote to be lynched and the Hammerer's vote is not already on the wagon; the Hammerer's vote will be automatically moved to the wagon to secure the lynch. If the Hammerer's vote is already on the wagon, the passive hammer is not possible.
This role is very rarely Town-aligned.

or

Doublevoter can be used as a role modifier or as a role in its own right. It allows the player to cast the equivalent of two votes.



Also, did i miss somthing? OP says we are on day 3?

[BladeTwinSwords]

We are very clearly on Day 2 Mikey

Oh what the fuck is wrong with my typing recently.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

lawlllll!

Also, i looked back at day 1 votes. I do not see rape placing a vote, so i dont think he is a doublevoter as he would need to actually cast a vote to doublevote. I may be wrong though, as i am using the mafia wiki.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

we can still get info from lynching carm. Let me explain, then offer thoughts.

If all votes remain as they are:

If any one other then rape votes the 5th spot and the day ends, Rape is a hammerer

If rape votes as the 5th vote and the day ends, Rape is a double voter

If neither of these happen and we require the 6th vote. Masskid likely had the "hated" modifier, a modifier that requires one less vote to lynch.

[CYBER]

we can still get info from lynching carm. Let me explain, then offer thoughts.If all votes remain as they are:If any one other then rape votes the 5th spot and the day ends, Rape is a hammererIf rape votes as the 5th vote and the day ends, Rape is a double voterIf neither of these happen and we require the 6th vote. Masskid likely had the "hated" modifier, a modifier that requires one less vote to lynch. im pretty sure masskid already had the hated modified because it took only 5 votes (including rape's implicit vote) to lynch him. I highly doubt rape would both be a forced hammerer and double voter bcos that would be annoying as fuck. So either 1 of the other 4 is a double voter or masskid HAS To be hated townie or else the day would not have ended. Now, seeing that almost everyone who voted on masskid has a vote on carm, and we are at 4 votes and rape has not hammered this yet, i'd safely say that the odds that 1 of those 3 ppl (the 4 voters except wolf) is a double voter . And wolf was throwing his votes around like a mad man, so i doubt he'd be playing with 2 votes like that with a risk of havin ppl banwagoning it. So again, this brings me back to say that i am almost sure masskid was a hated townie, that rape is a quickhammerer, and that carm will definitely get lynched if ANY of the leftover ppl voted except rape. Since he will hammer it

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At RAPE: this is important. If u ARE what i suspect of a quickhammerer, then trust me, always make sure u VOTE on someone that is unlikely to be lynched until u decide who u really want lynched. And always make sure u are watching the vote counts so that u keep rotating ur temporary CASTED vote until u decide who to really lynch. Reason?? Because if what i read from mikey's wiki snippet is true, u should NOT leave ur vote empty and hanging in the air like u are right now because mafia can use it to their advantage and time it purposely to force u to lynch someone. They might even force u to lynch urself later on in the game if u have not casted a vote. However, by casting ur vote TEMPORARILY on someone UNLIKELY to be lynched and keep track of anyone choochoo-ing ur vote, then u have control over ur own vote, and u basically neutralize ur own negative skill so that u are no longer liable and forced to quickhammer..

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

im pretty sure masskid already had the hated modified because it took only 5 votes (including rape's implicit vote) to lynch him. I highly doubt rape would both be a forced hammerer and double voter bcos that would be annoying as fuck. So either 1 of the other 4 is a double voter or masskid HAS To be hated townie or else the day would not have ended. Now, seeing that almost everyone who voted on masskid has a vote on carm, and we are at 4 votes and rape has not hammered this yet, i'd safely say that the odds that 1 of those 3 ppl (the 4 voters except wolf) is a double voter . And wolf was throwing his votes around like a mad man, so i doubt he'd be playing with 2 votes like that with a risk of havin ppl banwagoning it. So again, this brings me back to say that i am almost sure masskid was a hated townie, that rape is a quickhammerer, and that carm will definitely get lynched if ANY of the leftover ppl voted except rape. Since he will hammer it

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At RAPE: this is important. If u ARE what i suspect of a quickhammerer, then trust me, always make sure u VOTE on someone that is unlikely to be lynched until u decide who u really want lynched. And always make sure u are watching the vote counts so that u keep rotating ur temporary CASTED vote until u decide who to really lynch. Reason?? Because if what i read from mikey's wiki snippet is true, u should NOT leave ur vote empty and hanging in the air like u are right now because mafia can use it to their advantage and time it purposely to force u to lynch someone. They might even force u to lynch urself later on in the game if u have not casted a vote. However, by casting ur vote TEMPORARILY on someone UNLIKELY to be lynched and keep track of anyone choochoo-ing ur vote, then u have control over ur own vote, and u basically neutralize ur own negative skill so that u are no longer liable and forced to quickhammer..

where do you get that idea? i never once said rape could be both, because both roles have different mechanics. you also misunderstand the "quickhammer" this role is passive, it does not require rape to actually post a vote. It just happens. I say he could be a double voter by sending votes via PM thus double voting masskids death and there only being 4 votes total in the thread.

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either way, is anyone but rape votes and it ends the day. We can most certainly assume rape is a hammerer/quickhammer. Whether town or not, a passive ability like this is very dangerous.

[Chikun]

Is a Hammer role always town? If so we just cleared another suspect.

Nem, if throwing out ideas is flip flopping you're a hysterical idiot which to me makes you just as dangerous and more suspicious than someone who isn't posting. Also, I caught you flat out lying and trying to convince others of this lie, policy dictates liars be lynched.

[CYBER]

where do you get that idea? i never once said rape could be both, because both roles have different mechanics. you also misunderstand the "quickhammer" this role is passive, it does not require rape to actually post a vote. It just happens. I say he could be a double voter by sending votes via PM thus double voting masskids death and there only being 4 votes total in the thread.---------- Post added at 03:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:03 PM ----------either way, is anyone but rape votes and it ends the day. We can most certainly assume rape is a hammerer/quickhammer. Whether town or not, a passive ability like this is very dangerous. mikey... Reread my post ffs. I didnt say that u said rape was a both a double voter or a quickhammered. I simplyMentionned the improbabilty of it. And ffs again : REREAD. I KNOW rape's ability is passive lol, rapedidnt een post a vote and then the mod told is that rape had a vote in there. Wheter this was a mod slip or intentional common knowledge, it's the very thing that made me presume that rape is a quickhammerer,,, and AGAIN: reread!!!!!!! I actually told rape to MANUALLY vote on someone that is unlikely to be ynched because that would prevent his passive ability from quickhammering someone else PASSIVELY. Do u get it now? Also, sry if i sound raging, this iphone is really annoying at keeping syntax and structure-.-

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Is a Hammer role always town? If so we just cleared another suspect.

Nem, if throwing out ideas is flip flopping you're a hysterical idiot which to me makes you just as dangerous and more suspicious than someone who isn't posting. Also, I caught you flat out lying and trying to convince others of this lie, policy dictates liars be lynched.

i was always under the impression that it's usually a town-aligned negative role.

mikey seems to think otherwise.
but personally i don't see the point of having a mafia being a quickhammerer, they'd wanna get someone lynched nway... whereas a townie needs to be careful who they are lynching...
so it just feels like a negative modifier for a townie, and imo (and my opinion only), rape would be a confirmed townie for me...
i could be wrong, but that's what i think...
also chikun, i already stated that same idea a few posts back in a post that started with " and btw, there is another fact we DO know ...etc"

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

upon doing further research, hammerers are almost always mafia or anti town. reason being is that it is common practice to suspect players who consistently hammer vote, thus proving to be a valuable mafia role. as stated in the hammerer wiki description "This role is very rarely Town-aligned." Having a hammer vote makes it appear as though the 5th voter is a hammer voter, brushing suspicion from the mafia member to the person just banwagoning.

[Chikun]

I had a feeling it would be more likely a town thing, but let's end this night.

Vote Michelle

[BladeTwinSwords]

STOP!

Hammertime!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUPDla44jfQ

Some of the reindeer decide that they should take a small break away from all of the trouble.

A few of them walk off into the forest.

Suddenly a loud scream occurs and then.... silence.

Upon closer inspection it seems one of the reindeer was pushed off by his fellow 'friends'.

Rudolph, Innocent Firefighter has been killed!

Night 2 has started. You have 24 hours to send me your actions.

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People who Voted for Carm:

Brett, Mikey, Cyber, What, Chikun, Rape$$

[CYBER]

ZZZZZzzzzzzCalledItMOFOSzzzzzzzzzzz

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

ZZZZZzzzzzzCalledItMOFOSzzzzzzzzzzz

zzzzzcalledwhat?my postcamebeforeyourszzzZZZ

zzzztruecalllerofitsmofoszzZZzZZz

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zzzzzblades part about who voted suggests cyber rapes chikuns zzzZZzZzZ

[BladeTwinSwords]

Now I consider those zzz words to be breaking the rules.

Don't make me change your roles to Inconsiderate Bastards.

[CYBER]

zzzzzcalledwhat?my postcamebeforeyourszzzZZZ

zzzztruecalllerofitsmofoszzZZzZZz

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zzzzzblades part about who voted suggests cyber rapes chikuns zzzZZzZzZ

ZZZZZZzzzMikeyIfONLYyouActuallyReadShitThenYouWoul dHaveSeenThatIcalledITbeforeYouEvenHadYourMorningC offeeMOFO<3ZZzzzzz


no but seriously, gd night:P

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Zzzzzz NowThat'sGdChikunmmmmmmZzzzzzzzz

[What]

ZzZzZzZzZ....mmmmmm wolfey so much whipped cream....ZzZzZzZzZzZzZ

[Wolfenstinger]

ZzZzZzZzZ....mmmmmm wolfey so much whipped cream....ZzZzZzZzZzZzZ

:icon_eek: .... zzz

[SCRIBBLE]

Zz zz zz

[Nemesis]

I wanna wake up!!!!

[BladeTwinSwords]

Night 2 has ended.

As the sun rises the reindeer notice that there is a small fire near the forest.

Upon closer inspection, there is a scorch mark on the ground as well as a corpse.

It seems that someone was incinerated to avoid telling someone something.

Cupid, Innocent Bus Driverhas been incinerated!

Day 3 begins! You have 48 hours to come to a conclusion. With 8 people alive it takes 5 to lynch.

[Chikun]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GR0sKRji6Q

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

well, another night with 0 info. WTH is a firefighter?

Also, i think its safe to say we have 100% confirmed RAPE as a hammerer. With that said i post some captions from the Wiki page.

A Quickhammer (sometimes seen as QH) is a technique (usually) used by scum to secure a lynch by hammering a player before anyone can react.
These are most notorious for winning the game in LyLo situations. If one Townie votes another Townie, theoretically all of the living scum can pile onto the wagon en masse and secure the game-winning lynch. However, this can be done in other situations as well in a move to cut off the Town's discussion as the game moves to Night after the lynch.

A Hammerer is a role that passively hammers players. This effect will occur if a player only needs one more vote to be lynched and the Hammerer's vote is not already on the wagon; the Hammerer's vote will be automatically moved to the wagon to secure the lynch. If the Hammerer's vote is already on the wagon, the passive hammer is not possible.
This role is very rarely Town-aligned.

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Thoughts?

[What]

firefighter is like a doctor for arsonists, who are a serial killer who can only be stopped by a firefighter.
Also, blade, um who was the person who died? You gave the character and role but not his name.

[Nemesis]

vote mikey

Cyber is confirmed town.

you fucked up mikey. Mikey has been confirmed guilty.

[What]

I also think, based on the role, Rape is very likely anti town, I also wonder if his role forces him to quickhammer himself?

[Nemesis]

What, it was Chikun who died.

[What]

fuck, without a fire fighter, no one can save the arsonists victims, not that I'm sure carm would have anyways, why the fuck didn't she post anything? even just letting us know an arsonist is involved would have been helpful.

[Nemesis]

fuck, without a fire fighter, no one can save the arsonists victims, not that I'm sure carm would have anyways, why the fuck didn't she post anything? even just letting us know an arsonist is involved would have been helpful.

well there's a chance that mikey is the arsonist, he's either that or mafia, we need to hit them now.

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also Chikun was killed by the arsonist.

[What]

Also, I have suspicions about mikey since day 2, so what pushed you over the edge?

[Nemesis]

Also, I have suspicions about mikey since day 2, so what pushed you over the edge?

a birdie told me.

[What]

Well if 11 people likely 2 mafia 1 3rd party, but arsonist is powerful so could be 1 mafia 1 3rd party, if rape is antitown and a hammerer, he is a lesser threat than an arsonist or mafia with other abilities IMO

[brett friggin favre]

Well fuck.

[Nemesis]

Well if 11 people likely 2 mafia 1 3rd party, but arsonist is powerful so could be 1 mafia 1 3rd party, if rape is antitown and a hammerer, he is a lesser threat than an arsonist or mafia with other abilities IMO

we need to stop the arsonist, yes. and now we now mikey is something anti-town. best place to start.

[What]

Well I'm with you now, and we now rape will hammer it, so Vote Mikey

He turns out town, you're next.

[Nemesis]

Well I'm with you now, and we now rape will hammer it, so Vote Mikey

He turns out town, you're next.

fo sho bro.

[What]

Also, this is my if Nem is lying thing:
we have 8, if mikey is town, down to 7, another dies at night, down to 6, then it would be 2 mafia 1 3rd likely, so then its gonna be tough for town.

If mikey is town, then down to 7 with 2 baddies at most, at night, 6 with 2 baddies, much better odds.

Nem could be pulling a gambit hoping on numbers to get a win even if he turns out a liar, but no guarantee.

Also, since he confirmed cyber, it would call into question scribble's alignment if he is lying.

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meant isn't on second line obvi.

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and for your own life in the game, you best hope Mikey is the arsonist.

[Nemesis]

Also since mikey is guilty he's lying about Rape, trying to get him lynched, if mikey is mafia, rape is likely town. If mikey is arsonist, that doesn't clear rape.

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and for your own life in the game, you best hope Mikey is the arsonist.

Arsonist goes after power roles, I has the safes.

[What]

Arsonist goes after power roles, I has the safes.

I guess you could always be the arsonist, but for now I won't throw salt in your game.

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I would like cyber to get on here and confirm he sent you a message though.

[Nemesis]

I guess you could always be the arsonist, but for now I won't throw salt in your game.

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I would like cyber to get on here and confirm he sent you a message though.

nah, if I was the arsonist I would just go along lynching whoever was first brought up, not go against the grain and stand out.

[What]

nah, if I was the arsonist I would just go along lynching whoever was first brought up, not go against the grain and stand out.

Not necessarily, but claiming Mikey is confirmed guilty is quite the gambit for a lie.

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So far the most damning thing for me is that Mikey posted a few times quickly, gets called out, and stops. We all know he ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer so I can't wait to see what garbled mess he comes back with after thinking things over.

[Nemesis]

Not necessarily, but claiming Mikey is confirmed guilty is quite the gambit for a lie.

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So far the most damning thing for me is that Mikey posted a few times quickly, gets called out, and stops. We all know he ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer so I can't wait to see what garbled mess he comes back with after thinking things over.

First he'll claim I'm lying, then mayube something like claiming miller and saying his vote is still ours or something stupid. either way, he's full of the shits.

[CYBER]

I also think, based on the role, Rape is very likely anti town, I also wonder if his role forces him to quickhammer himself?

here's what i see.
if rape was anti-town, usually the mod would keep the identity of the quickhammerer a secret in order to balance it. The fact that the mod gave away his name in the votes makes me think he's a townie because it would not impact the game to know it was him.

it's just common mod courtesy to keep a mafia quickhammerer identity a secret...

so as far as i know? rape SHOULD be confirmed town...
blade could have just fucked up, but im pretty sure my reasoning is right if that wasn't the case

[Nemesis]

here's what i see.
if rape was anti-town, usually the mod would keep the identity of the quickhammerer a secret in order to balance it. The fact that the mod gave away his name in the votes makes me think he's a townie because it would not impact the game to know it was him.

it's just common mod courtesy to keep a mafia quickhammerer identity a secret...

so as far as i know? rape SHOULD be confirmed town...
blade could have just fucked up, but im pretty sure my reasoning is right if that wasn't the case

Cyber, I confirmed you, you're to vote mikey now.

[CYBER]

yeah sorry , i replied to a comment on teh earlier page while i read the rest.

I'm trusting in nemesis's call on mikey.

If mikey is innocent, we'll lynch nem.
all aboard the choo choo train?

Vote : Nemesis

[What]

yeah sorry , i replied to a comment on teh earlier page while i read the rest.

I'm trusting in nemesis's call on mikey.

If mikey is innocent, we'll lynch nem.
all aboard the choo choo train?

Vote : Nemesis

Wait what?

[CYBER]

yeah sorry , i replied to a comment on teh earlier page while i read the rest.

I'm trusting in nemesis's call on mikey.

If mikey is innocent, we'll lynch nem.
all aboard the choo choo train?

Vote : Nemesis

dafuq did i just write????
UNVOTE damnit!

VOTE : MIKEY! yes. mikey -.-

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BLADE. Consider the UNVOTe that i wrote earlier colored...
so UNVOTE nem, and VOTE mikey.

fucking eh

[What]

well one more and the quick hammer comes in, here's hopeing its not a fuck up.

[CYBER]

ergh... just read What's post.

Yes, i sent a confirmation message to Nem via the mod yesterday. :)

[What]

ergh... just read What's post.

Yes, i sent a confirmation message to Nem via the mod yesterday. :)

Well good i guess, but remember, if mikey turns out town, calls all yall into question.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

are you kidding me? A birdie told him? How is it possible that anyone could be lying about rape being a quick hammer, there is 100% proof that he is. Also, nem.. you have conflicted with every other townies thoughts regarding the path we should choose. There is more solid evidence that rape is a threat to town then me or anybody else at this time. Also, do i not hold a reputation of being completely honest in these games, a trait that has actually worked against me many times?

[CYBER]

i have a question tho...
we know the arsenist was involved. im about to check the first page but im guessing that's how u guys knew it was chikun that was cupid?

so again. if an arsenist was involved... why was there no mafia kill?
1- either there's no mafia.
2- a doc protected from mafia kill.. so it makes me wonder who would be so obvious to be both a mafia AND a doc target.
3- mafia and arsenist attacked same person.

[What]

are you kidding me? A birdie told him? How is it possible that anyone could be lying about rape being a quick hammer, there is 100% proof that he is. Also, nem.. you have conflicted with every other townies thoughts regarding the path we should choose. There is more solid evidence that rape is a threat to town then me or anybody else at this time. Also, do i not hold a reputation of being completely honest in these games, a trait that has actually worked against me many times?

Well no, ,you have a reputation of being terrible and ham fisted attempts at trying to convince people of things. Even if rape is an anti-town hammer, we know what he is now, and he isn't a threat, i am sure nem will elaborate on his choice if prompted to.

And, if you are mafia, wouldn't that mean you couldn't be honest? Hence making this whole argument null and void. Are you saying if you were anti-town you would come out and say it?

[Nemesis]

Nice vote Cyber. You have no idea how much I fucking hate you.

[CYBER]

Well good i guess, but remember, if mikey turns out town, calls all yall into question.

dude. if mikey is town, i'll gladly be the first lynch on nem bcos that was one hell of a gamble (and i double nem would be that stupid to go for a bluff like that so early in game. my guess is that he has an investigative role... so we know who to make survives the night...)


And if nem turns out bad? I'll lynch myself afterwards... i dnt know if that would bring scribble into question considering i KNOW im a townie, but yeah, i see what u mean.

in fact? i know who to send my confirmation for tonight to avoid being on the spot if nem is bs.


let's hope he isn't...
also, im willing to bet my in-game life that Rape is an innocent townie... Mikey being anti-town would confirm this as well seeing as he's been pushing the most to get him killed.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

id like also to say that the few posts i made at the beginning of this day were a quick attempt to voice opinion and start conversation. While all of you sit behind your desks at night, its morning and i have responsibilities to attend to.

[Nemesis]

id like also to say that the few posts i made at the beginning of this day were a quick attempt to voice opinion and start conversation. While all of you sit behind your desks at night, its morning and i have responsibilities to attend to.

Don't cry for me Argentina.

[What]

well i did the math, and it would be a gamble by nem, but would still provide the possibility for success, since it could be 3 town 3 anti town next day, Nem would be on the block, gets lynched, then 3 town 2 anti, one is an arsonist one is a mafia, so then you could start final day as 1 town, 1 mafia, 1 arsonist, with the town losing no matter what, but a possible push between the other two.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

i havnt pushed at all to have nem killed. As a matter of fact the only person i suspected until now was rape.

[CYBER]

Nice vote Cyber. You have no idea how much I fucking hate you.

im sry lol...
i was in my chain of thoughts about possibly lynching u tomorrow if u fucked up today... and i accidentally wrote the wrong damn name... and i realized it as soon as i posted and fixed ...

[What]

id like also to say that the few posts i made at the beginning of this day were a quick attempt to voice opinion and start conversation. While all of you sit behind your desks at night, its morning and i have responsibilities to attend to.

Your attempts at conversation are filled with feigned ignorance of the game, and are always, well listen we need to do something what do you all think?