An old agrument

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

There i was, sitting sound when all of a sudden some FOB VIP's came into our building. They were the voice actors for Mendez and SGT Frank woods from Call of Duty Black Ops II. Small talk ensued when suddenly we were asked "who is the gamer here" i proudly claimed myself. I mentioned that i was a very heavy PC gamer but dabble with the console, something new to me since my deployment. As soon as i mentioned PC.. the old argument began... "Mac is better"... claimed the voice actors.

It is an argument that occurs within my building at least once a week, im surrounded by Mac owners, who just dont get it!

What are some useful facts that can be used to prove, without a doubt that PC's are and will always be superior!

[BladeTwinSwords]

Linux is better. :smirk:

[maynard]

Linux is better. :smirk:

for gaming? are you retarded? *whispers* hey buddy

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

PCs can run linux and this argument i wish to settle encompasses more then just gaming.

The freedom one has with PC is not good enough, argued against with things like "well mac never gets a virus!"

[jwtemp]

Well, for starters, anyone buying a Macintosh is paying a premium price for both the brand name and the software. Apple PCs are priced ~30% higher than PCs with identical hardware, and to any financially conscious consumer, this doesn't make any sense. While it can be argued that Apple's software 'runs better,' it can also be argued that the only reason this is the case is because Apple has a closed development ecosystem and requires most of their software, if not all, to be 'certified' before getting the seal of approval for installation.

Next up you have gaming. Mac/Linux doesn't have the gaming support, Windows does. Easy nail in the coffin for anyone who wants to play games, quite frankly.

Lastly, I think Apple's UI on OSX is horrid. It's great for grandma who doesn't need to do anything other than open Safari or Mail. For someone who likes customization, options and more than a 'pretty' experience, Windows wins again (although Linux wins here too, and arguably Windows is moving more toward Apple's minimalist philosophy with the abortion that is Windows 8).

Apple's big selling point is 'It just works.' And yes, it does 'just work,' as long as you stick to the box that Apple sticks you in when you purchase their product. These same arguments can pretty much be applied to the age old Android/iPhone/iPad debate as well.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Well, for starters, anyone buying a Macintosh is paying a premium price for both the brand name and the software. Apple PCs are priced ~30% higher than PCs with identical hardware, and to any financially conscious consumer, this doesn't make any sense. While it can be argued that Apple's software 'runs better,' it can also be argued that the only reason this is the case is because Apple has a closed development ecosystem and requires most of their software, if not all, to be 'certified' before getting the seal of approval for installation.

Next up you have gaming. Mac/Linux doesn't have the gaming support, Windows does. Easy nail in the coffin for anyone who wants to play games, quite frankly.

Lastly, I think Apple's UI on OSX is horrid. It's great for grandma who doesn't need to do anything other than open Safari or Mail. For someone who likes customization, options and more than a 'pretty' experience, Windows wins again (although Linux wins here too, and arguably Windows is moving more toward Apple's minimalist philosophy with the abortion that is Windows 8).

Apple's big selling point is 'It just works.' And yes, it does 'just work,' as long as you stick to the box that Apple sticks you in when you purchase their product. These same arguments can pretty much be applied to the age old Android/iPhone/iPad debate as well.

Iv tried the "less freedom" act, coupled with everything you said. Im looking for statistics and fact to support my argument, something they do not have, a clincher so to speak. Something no one can rebuttal.

[jwtemp]

There isn't a 'fact' that makes PCs better than Macs, trust me, if there was one, I'd know it and would have given it to you. :) It's all pretty subjective. You're basically looking for a straight line answer to the age old question - which brand is best? The answer is almost always 'neither.'

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

There isn't a 'fact' that makes PCs better than Macs, trust me, if there was one, I'd know it and would have given it to you. :) It's all pretty subjective. You're basically looking for a straight line answer to the age old question - which brand is best? The answer is almost always 'neither.'

Why not find a mac for like $2000 then build a pc wishlist with the same hardware/specs and compare price? I honestly got at one point "Iv dropped my mac alot of times and it works fine! i dropped my PC and it broke the first time!"

[maynard]

this argument i wish to settle encompasses more then just gaming.

Oh I know. I just never pass up on an opportunity 2 verbally harass blade.

this thread reminded me of something, enjoy. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Oh I know. I just never pass up on an opportunity 2 verbally harass blade.

this thread reminded me of something, enjoy. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

I agree, harassing blade is always fun!

That article is amazing!

[jwtemp]

You could definitely do that with the price Mikey, but it's no secret that Apple PCs and laptops command a premium price. You could literally price out a Macbook Pro, go find a Lenovo or Toshiba with identical specs and the price is going to be 30% less. Hell, I'll do it for you.

Macbook Pro 'top of the line':

2.4GHz quad-core Intel Core i7
Turbo Boost up to 3.4GHz
8GB 1600MHz memory
256GB flash storage1
Intel HD Graphics 4000
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory
Built-in battery (7 hours)2

Price: $2199

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_pro

Alternatively, the top tier Lenovo Y500, with actually better hardware, is $1,349.

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087&current-category-id=5B0116E237099FA0FCA012D9B20ED2FB

That should pretty readily paint the picture. Apple-o-philes will come up with a hundred reasons why the Apple computer costs more, but ultimately, they overpaid for it, period.

[Chikun]

Tell them you don't support the fascist lifestyle that Apple provides.

You could also say that Call of Dooty blows donkey balls.

[SCRIBBLE]

Mikey we do not want Mac users switching and using PC anyways so let them live their fantasy.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Mikey we do not want Mac users switching and using PC anyways so let them live their fantasy.

let them live there hip life style with there over priced social statements.

[Chikun]

Why does the opinion of voice actors who aren't Kevin Conroy matter?

[What]

Why does the opinion of voice actors who aren't Kevin Conroy matter?

Cause Y'all play video games, they LIVE them.

[Chikun]

Cause Y'all play video games, they LIVE them.

That statement is only true for Mr. Conroy. In which my statement stands.