Round 3 for map votes to be deleted.

[Omegxkid]

We had a Tie last week guys so what i will do is i am going to make a death match round for the 2 tie maps from last vote round once we are done with all the other maps, just in case we have more ties. Again this rounds winner will move on to the sem-final's and I will not vote for my self i will change it to the 3 maps that we are voting on and take a vote on each one and the winner of the votes from the server it self is the map I will vote on so my vote is the no forum accounts peoples vote.

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Oh i also forgot to let everyone know, the Zm_ghs_abandon_mall that is in this round of votes is a copy of another map we all ready have, and this one has an area that is off limits so if i was you i would not even bother voting for it!

[B1ackOut]

Omega, Zm_ghs_adandon_mall is the only PLAYABLE version. The other one sucks, I'm not just repeating myself IT IS AWFUL! The old one is fine, has never been bitched about in the almost 4 years I have been playing on this server. It has one easy to stop illegal spot, that is the ONLY flaw. Remove the new one instead, it has no viable barricade spots while the old one has several decent spots.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Omega, Zm_ghs_adandon_mall is the only PLAYABLE version. The other one sucks, I'm not just repeating myself IT IS AWFUL! The old one is fine, has never been bitched about in the almost 4 years I have been playing on this server. It has one easy to stop illegal spot, that is the ONLY flaw. Remove the new one instead, it has no viable barricade spots while the old one has several decent spots.

what new one? are you talking about mall_beta?

omega, stop. i say this with the greatest ammount of derision and hate i can muster. you're a fucking retard.

abandoned_mall is a classic, and one of the best maps we have. there is a special rule regarding the map specifically because it was so popular people discovered the exploit.

stop making these fucking votes.

[jimmay]

:banghead:

[phil.™]

My dude, I say this all out of love and team playing, but these votes really don't mean anything.
Only at max, what 8-10 people vote. Of that, only 2-3 admins (max), and of that, no clan members.
I'll keep voting, but IMO, just keep what we have. Keep the variety strong and something to vote on.

[B1ackOut]

what new one? are you talking about mall_beta?

omega, stop. i say this with the greatest ammount of derision and hate i can muster. you're a fucking retard.

abandoned_mall is a classic, and one of the best maps we have. there is a special rule regarding the map specifically because it was so popular people discovered the exploit.

stop making these fucking votes.

A few months ago another, newer version of zm_ghs_abandoned_mall was added, except all viable cade spots were gutted of props and generally made worse. A new large section with no spots was added and the secret spots removed. Its not mall beta as in the failbus but the one with the GAP and Best Buy.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

A few months ago another, newer version of zm_ghs_abandoned_mall was added, except all viable cade spots were gutted of props and generally made worse. A new large section with no spots was added and the secret spots removed. Its not mall beta as in the failbus but the one with the GAP and Best Buy.

ahh. i didn't remember there being a new version of abandoned_mall.

and i love the failbus.

[Omegxkid]

I will say again Zm_ghs_abandon_mall this is the old one the new one is Zm_ghs_abandon_mall_v2 it has more places to hide the only thing that was removed in this new map was the room that is on the forums under Zmrules as a DoNotGo the Fuck In room because it is crouch to get in the trashcan area then there is over 20 props inside to shoot down and cade with and not one mother fucking time goes by that I or another admin do not have to slay someone for going in that room and i am sick of it if need be i will just restart this round and not even bother putting that map up and just have it removed! the new Zm_ghs_abandon_mall has bestbuy and 4 other new cade areas that the old one did not, as well as they removed (I will say again) that fucking room that is a no fly zone.
Omega, Zm_ghs_adandon_mall is the only PLAYABLE version. The other one sucks, I'm not just repeating myself IT IS AWFUL! The old one is fine, has never been bitched about in the almost 4 years I have been playing on this server. It has one easy to stop illegal spot, that is the ONLY flaw. Remove the new one instead, it has no viable barricade spots while the old one has several decent spots.

[Bane of Soldiers]

You
are
fucking
retarded

[jimmay]

I will say again Zm_ghs_abandon_mall this is the old one the new one is Zm_ghs_abandon_mall_v2 it has more places to hide the only thing that was removed in this new map was the room that is on the forums under Zmrules as a DoNotGo the Fuck In room because it is crouch to get in the trashcan area then there is over 20 props inside to shoot down and cade with and not one mother fucking time goes by that I or another admin do not have to slay someone for going in that room and i am sick of it if need be i will just restart this round and not even bother putting that map up and just have it removed! the new Zm_ghs_abandon_mall has bestbuy and 4 other new cade areas that the old one did not, as well as they removed (I will say again) that fucking room that is a no fly zone.

Where do you get that it's a do not go to room? The trash can entrance itself can't be caded due to being a crouch spot but that is it. Both the illegal (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/5871-ZM_GHS_ABANDON_MALL-%28Behind-trash-can%29) and legal (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/8475-ZM_GHS_ABANDON_MALL-%28Behind-trash-can%29)cading list address what can and can't be done there. The room is definitely not a no fly zone. Stop trying to make up your own rules.

You're upset because a number of ZM regulars and veterans are disagreeing with you and so you threaten to restart the vote you put up and just have the map you don't like removed. Good fucking luck with that.

[Omegxkid]

Maybe you should read the Zm rules before u open your mouth bro.
Where do you get that it's a do not go to room? The trash can entrance itself can't be caded due to being a crouch spot but that is it. Both the illegal (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/5871-ZM_GHS_ABANDON_MALL-%28Behind-trash-can%29) and legal (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/8475-ZM_GHS_ABANDON_MALL-%28Behind-trash-can%29)cading list address what can and can't be done there. The room is definitely not a no fly zone. Stop trying to make up your own rules.

You're upset because a number of ZM regulars and veterans are disagreeing with you and so you threaten to restart the vote you put up and just have the map you don't like removed. Good fucking luck with that.

[B1ackOut]

Maybe you should read the Zm rules before u open your mouth bro.

He is right omega, only barricading the actual crouch entrance is illegal. There is also an upstairs to the room that is a possible spot, and can be very effective.

[jimmay]

Maybe you should read the Zm rules before u open your mouth bro.

I've read them many times and obviously know them better than you so let me help you out. The ZM rules are located here: link (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/5831-Zm-Rules-v2.9). Within them are rules on barricading:

Barricading - Regarding illegal barricading / God items

Barricading an illegal barricade (as deemed in the illegal barricade sub section)
Barricading all entrances to a crouched spot


Cading the trash can entrance which is a crouch spot violates both of these rules. I think we're all in agreement that the trash can entrance can't be caded. Beyond the ZM rules is an Illegal Cading Spots forum (referenced in the first bullet under barricading above) (link (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/60-Illegal-Cading-Spots)) which has two sub-forums:

Illegal Cading List (link (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/61-Illegal-Cading-List)): All locations in here are Illegal
Legal Cading List (link (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/62-Legal-Cading-List)): This section is a list of spots that have been reviewed and declared legal.

Zm_ghs_abandon_mall has a thread under the illegal cading list which repeats what the rules state. The trash can entrance which is a crouch spot cannot be caded. Here's a link (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/5871-ZM_GHS_ABANDON_MALL-%28Behind-trash-can%29) to the thread.

Zm_ghs_abandon_mall also has a thread under the legal cading list which shows how that area can be caded. Here's a link (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/8475-ZM_GHS_ABANDON_MALL-%28Behind-trash-can%29) to the thread.

There is nothing in the rules governing the ZM server that states that spot as off-limits, no fly zone, whatever you want to call it.

[Bane of Soldiers]

Absolutely
fucking
retarded

[acolyte_to_jippity]

none of this changes the fact that he's a retarded little cunt who thinks that he has some sort of power regarding zmod.

face it omega, these votes do not matter, they only serve to pump up your fucking ego. stop wasting our time with this shit.

[Omegxkid]

U sir are nothing more then a little bitch who is mad because u cannot play anymore! As for u jimmay IDGAF what u think U know Anex is the one who said this about the mall (according to zero the ZM world is his domain as he knows more about it then any other clan or ULA because he plays there the most) So anything anex said is word/was as he is no longer with us, so i am just quoting him. Also if you crybaby mother fuckers want to Q-Q about the fact that I am taking my time to do something Zero asked so we can keep the zombie server fresh and new u can suck it,Not one thing i am doing has anything to do with ego or the fact that I think i am anything more then someone trying to help when i am asked. So if u think this is dumb that we are trying to make the zombie mod a better more updated world then get the fuck off of zombie mod and go play some place else.
none of this changes the fact that he's a retarded little cunt who thinks that he has some sort of power regarding zmod.

face it omega, these votes do not matter, they only serve to pump up your fucking ego. stop wasting our time with this shit.

[Bane of Soldiers]

Are you deaf to the voice of reason? Or just daft?

[jimmay]

Good luck enforcing unwritten rules. I hope your efforts have the intended effect and bring more players in rather than just piss off some of the regulars. With that, I'm done. See you all in game.