Awful Admins

[.,.BS]

Right to the point: There may be one or two admins that are actually admins on the ZM server. More like one.

I have been previously banned for a week for knifing on sorrento -- where the ladder goes up, and you knife n00b zombies off the roof -- because according to omega (who is an obvious total n00b completely drunk on admin power, and probably completely drunk normally as well) knifing on sorrento is not completing your objective, even though you can thin the heard, knife a few zombies, then make your way to the checkpoint. But you play as he says or ban.

Then the latest bit comes from me constantly owning him, while he uses homophobic slurs over the mic taunting me with things like "quire your going to get banned hacker," "that's it your getting banned." He joins during Voodoo when I'm on and just watches while he spams "NO ZTELE IT'S GLITCHING." Now as all of you know if you play ZM everyone ztele's when you are hiding in the first round of voodoo. But of course, since I constantly own him barely even trying, his n00b ass singles me out and bans me.

I play fair, I never cheat, and I don't give anyone a hard time. I even ignore omega (who is not alpha, beta, and defintaly NOT omega.. but more like whina') feeble attempts to slander me and other players he has been outclassed by.

Now currently for ztele'ing on voodoo I have a month ban. Make it permanent, I'll happily game elsewhere. The reason why ZM server and perhaps others if they are admined like that, are not always full is the ridiculous things ppl are banned for. Mainly just waa'waa admins. I have owned servers, admined them, among other things... and one thing is for sure. Whina' knows nothing about admining and is so thrilled with what he thinks is power of admining that it's constantly abused. Get a demo you say? Sit in the server.. EVER, when he is on. There is your demo. The tyrant.

I'll happily game elsewhere, but for those who are in the field of admining, knows something about it, and care about the players just having a good time, ban for things like cheating. Where I frequently see 1week or 1day bans for actually cheating, they should be permanent on the spot. Cheating = permanent ban. Exploiting.. always seems subject to interpretation but be gentle. Cade breaking.. slay, unless continuous then kick/ban. Fun? Make sure ppl have it because it's the point of it all, not joining the server and playing tyrant.

And being and admin don't be so quick to say others are cheating just cause they own you. Maybe they been around this game a lot longer then you think. Your server would be a lot more packed if ppl weren't banned/kicked/slayed for almost nothing constantly. And one more tid-bit, change the 3second !ztele for humans to 10 seconds, or longer and take that out of the equation. Or lower the number of times a human can ztele to 1 each round? There are many things you can do besides letting many get away with zteleing, then hammer down on ppl who do it at the first round on voodoo like all ppl do, or when their cade is broken right at the beginning (no admin around for that though) so they ztele for some quick attempt to find safety cause some n00b just poped their cade. Anyway that's for any admin that actually admins, and cares about how their servers are being ran.

Play legit, play hard, don't whine.


Game On,
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P.S.
This ones for you omeg... rrr Whina' ...... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. :headache:

[phil.™]

Saw this thread coming. Just of matter of when...

First of all, you were banned by MY request. Nobody else, no other admin said anything, I REQUESTED IT. I saw another ban made on you, I requested to clan you get an extensive ban. Why? Because you repetitively break rules that you know, AND that you have enforced yourself. So stop calling our ZM admin's, shit admins. If anything, they have been on their game, been enforcing the rules, making the server fun, and been reporting stuff they were not comfortable with to me. So stop calling them shit admins.

You don't think I don't know who you are because you changed your in-game name? My dude, there's records for everything. Just takes a little to dig.

http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=STEAM_0:0:2895676&advType=steamid
This is your banned record. You have 6 total bans.
1st - You banned yourself for 2 weeks. I don't know why you would do such a thing.
2nd - By maynard himself, for you !ztele'n from zombies.
3rd, 4th and 5th for same reason - !ztele from zombies.
6th ban from maynard again in follow up from omega's 5th ban, per MY request.

Now, let's look at your record, AS AN ADMIN. Yeah, I know you've been an admin, and your in-game name was andyfu <ibis.a>.

http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=4639&advType=admin
This is all the people you have banned while you were admin.
1st ban - 4hrs for team stacking. HOW THE HELL DO YOU TEAM STACK IN ZM?!!?
2nd ban - 2 WEEK ban from a general exploit of server. 2 week ban on a first time offense. The player did not report anything, and sought out his ban time.
3rd ban - again, how you managed to ban yourself for 2 weeks, really?
4th ban - 1 month for team stacking? AGAIN, HOW THE HELL DO YOU TEAM STACK IN ZM? You either spawn a zombie, or stay as human.
5th ban - 4 hours for breaking server rules. Probably the only legit ban you made that is reasonable.


You have made some horrible bans yourself for 1st time offenders. You, yourself have broke the same rules 4 times. If you want a perma ban as requested, we can def upgrade that shit to perma if you'd like.
If you want to stay here in IBIS, FOLLOW THE RULES. Get your shit together in 1 month.

I'll see you in 1 month.

[ZERO]

demo...

---------- Post added at 09:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:43 PM ----------

Also why is he making a second account to post this under?

[.,.BS]

Are you completely dur'durd? I have NEVER been an admin on IBIS server. I have NEVER changed my name on IBIS server. I would NEVER pay to admin your shit server cluttered with your shit admins. If you do YOUR research philup, you'll see I was banned by adfu, you think I banned myself, are you absolutely retarded? You may you all live together in some sort of fashion or are friends in real life, it would explain your ping similarities. So stick up for one another. I will NOT be commenting on this thread again, specially if you think you are an actual admin, who would doesn't have the inept capacity not to be able to tell two different account, by IP, steam ID, region, etc. I would prefer to find a wall to talk to because at least it wouldn't talk about things it doesn't know about. It would just sit there and go ..................................... but that's better then talking about something which you are completely wrong on, which completely reflects on your inept ability to properly run/administer a server.

You sure jumped into that one with both feet you complete fool. You won't be seeing me in 1 month, re-read my original post, make it perm cause I will not gaming on your shit server, with your shit admins, along with your shit intelligence that thinks I'm somebody else. There are THOUSANDS of servers, many much better then yours, you rubber richard.

Utterly stupefied.

Bah'bye. Hope you saw that coming.


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[phil.™]

Wow on my part.
http://www.ibisgaming.com/zm_stats/player.php?id=258623&vlimit=20&vsort=name&vorder=desc&vstart=1180
Totally diff people.
I do not know how it some how cross referenced .,. with andyfu (or as i saw luffy) at the time, but wow. my total mistake. I ain't even going to edit my first post cause that was just dumb of my part. My sincere apologies for that. Just woah.

But I still do stand by my request for an extensive ban. You need to learn to rules, realize what you were banned for, and stop doing it. But i do apologize for mistaking you for andyfu. That's a total shocker for me right now.


Woah, just fucking woah.

[Carmichal]

Are you completely dur'durd? I have NEVER been an admin on IBIS server. I have NEVER changed my name on IBIS server. I would NEVER pay to admin your shit server cluttered with your shit admins. If you do YOUR research philup, you'll see I was banned by adfu, you think I banned myself, are you absolutely retarded? You may you all live together in some sort of fashion or are friends in real life, it would explain your ping similarities. So stick up for one another. I will NOT be commenting on this thread again, specially if you think you are an actual admin, who would doesn't have the inept capacity not to be able to tell two different account, by IP, steam ID, region, etc. I would prefer to find a wall to talk to because at least it wouldn't talk about things it doesn't know about. It would just sit there and go ..................................... but that's better then talking about something which you are completely wrong on, which completely reflects on your inept ability to properly run/administer a server.

You sure jumped into that one with both feet you complete fool. You won't be seeing me in 1 month, re-read my original post, make it perm cause I will not gaming on your shit server, with your shit admins, along with your shit intelligence that thinks I'm somebody else. There are THOUSANDS of servers, many much better then yours, you rubber richard.

Utterly stupefied.

Bah'bye. Hope you saw that coming.


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Don't let the door hit you on your way out. Srsly throwing a hissy fit and leaving = no one cares.

[brett friggin favre]

oh look, the "your server sucks so i won't be back" rage after being banned.

never seen that one before!:banghead:

[Bchhog]

It happens phil your only human after all =P. As for the guy who started this thread ,from his posts i can tell he has little respect for people. True admins might make a mistake here or there and seem like there hungry with power ;P. But without them the servers would be a lot worse than they are at the moment. Also with the money they spend to be admins they keep the servers running so you have the luxury to complain about the way they're doing their job.

I've been playing on this server for about a year and 99% of admins give warnings before they dish out punishment. Unless your a regular and know better which is understandable, because it shouldn't take more than a month to learn the in's and out's of the rules. Believe you need to chill out and learn to follow rules, or quit coming to this server. Oh and they do a good job of enforcing a final decision, so if you do get perm banned good luck getting around that shit.

[ZERO]

Also if an admin really did break a rule he just need to post an abuse report and the demo of it for us to see. I am still waiting to see the evidence to support his claims...

[Bchhog]

Also if an admin really did break a rule he just need to post an abuse report and the demo of it for us to see. I am still waiting to see the evidence to support his claims...

Agreed, this just seem's like a complaint more than anything.

[Omegxkid]

First off you have been banned every time for the same dumb thing, you seem to be like a little kid that just cannot learn from his messups!!! almost every time i have banned you was for !Ztele from zombies and cade breaking in the same round lol, you did this to your self my man, I mean think back, I tell every single person the same rules on an escape map as it is the rules of the server Zm/Ze humans must escape (DoNotSitBackAtSpawnToZombieHunt) this rule was put up by Anex to stop people from doing just what u did on soren every damn round, you would sit your little ass at the top of the first climb point and knife zombies into the water that kills thim, thus stoping them from doing the objective set in place for them, and also not doing your objective to escape at all end of story right there bro! Also i watched you in VooDoo because i had gotton over 11 complants from people that you would !ztele on the 3rd island... This is 100% not aloud as all players must move on in an escape map for objective completion needs, you then waited on the second island till the zombies got caged on the 3rd island and then went on your way (note this was after you walked up to the 3rd island on time then started to shot out the guy in the crouch box spots cade because he was all ready set up and your crying little ass could not find a good spot) so you also smashed your way into someones holding cade causing this person to get stabed mind u also, and then !ztele away as if nothing would happen because you think u can do what ever the hell u like when you think no one is looking over your sholder. As i see it you can move on with your self and not come back because we do not need people that cannot fallow the main rules of any server (Do your objective) I have yet to ever find a server that dose not have this as the main rule above all else so GL with your hunt for heaven that does not exist.

Phil its ok to make messups man we all do, I will be the first to say I make messups because I like to learn from them (not run around and rant like a little crybaby durp like someone we all see here) so dont feel to bad about it man.

Oh and .,. you can call me a bad admin or anything because i mess around with people and call them Haxor to get a rise out of them when they troll other or when they are doing well because as a zombie its my objective to make you not pay attention so the others can sneek up on your ass, if I think someone is hacking for real you know it because I will stop what i am doing and go right to spec as any good admin would!

So now that you have ranted about me do you feel better? because I hate banning people you can ask cyber or mayn a lot of times i will even ask them what way i should go before i do something because we all make mistakes how ever a smart person learns from them and moves on. But when you are a complet DURP well im sorry bro there is just no fixing stupid!

[Rapedollar$]

I will be the first to say I make messups because I like to learn from them

i read this and want to ban you until you can recite the rules to me... skipped over the rest of the post though. who is this post about? i hate wall of text

[phil.™]

I am still waiting to see the evidence to support his claims...

demo ztele-voodoo is my ban on the july 25th.
tick 22K, pro sniper !ztele's and is told by everyone not to !ztele, that it's against the rules. Next round, .,. !ztele's
33800 !ztele when swimming around in water
11400 another !ztele when zombie spots him

auto-20130831-193040-ze_voodoo_islands_v7 is omega's ban
18000 he is not able to make his cade, and not leaving the cade, or trying to fix it, he !ztele's before the zombies can teleport to the third island. He is now behind the zombies, lingers back at second island and waits till zombies are caged again.

http://www.ibisgaming.com/zm_stats/player.php?id=302765
Ranked #14, with over 500+ hours in the server. You clearly know the rules, and def made your spot in ranking. I would hate to have you leave the server, but you know the rules man, and you keep breaking it.
So my last statement, sorry for mixing you up with andyfu and blowing that out of proportion, i really dont know what happened with that. Hopefully you stick around.

[Meltdown]

Problem is not the admin but the crowd, there so many people doing stuff which isn't aloud, but we cannot see them all. I feel it's better to warn once and then just take action. the only way to manage the server abit on prime time is not to have endless stupid discussions over mic or chat. if people don't follow the rules then it's your own fault.

[Assassin]

He was doing as Anex suggested...I don't think he is at fault here.

[phil.™]

He was doing as Anex suggested...I don't think he is at fault here.

He stated he was banned for !ztele in first island. I don't care about that (i have never banned for !ztele in first island), he did not avoid any zombie tags from !ztele in first island. It's the second and third island he !ztele's to avoid being caught by zombie is why I banned him.

[Erdenay]

Phil, Anex says... You know what, too easy...

You're a good guy, Phil - we all make mistakes and while you've mistaken him with another person, he *still* broke the rules and he still deserved to be punished. Furthermore, judging from his posts, we didn't lose anyone we would have wanted around.

[kenneth918237]

wow that wall off text omega not even gonna try that

phil you lost me did luffy go bad lol

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

wow that wall off text omega not even gonna try that

phil you lost me did luffy go bad lol

Maybe op was talking about admins like this guy. If that is the case, id pardon the OP from all previous transgression.

[Nemesis]

On par for zombie mod. Seems like the more complaints Omega gets the more proof that he's doing his job. Time for the children to go back to school.

[Mad Maxx]

I find that people are complaining a lot about admin abuse, but they are the ones breaking the rules. 9/10 admin gives ample warning about what people are doing wrong. the 1/10 are the veteran players who know the rules but are not abiding by them, testing their limits. I am a new admin but I've play on the server for years, my only concern is hashing out the "unwritten" rules and having a comprehensive list of illegal cades/actions that fall under the "grey" area. if any ULA is needing assistance with something like that please let me know as I wish to ensure player cooperation as well as enjoyment while on the servers.

Regards,

Maxx

[brett friggin favre]

I find that people are complaining a lot about admin abuse, but they are the ones breaking the rules. 9/10 admin gives ample warning about what people are doing wrong. the 1/10 are the veteran players who know the rules but are not abiding by them, testing their limits. I am a new admin but I've play on the server for years, my only concern is hashing out the "unwritten" rules and having a comprehensive list of illegal cades/actions that fall under the "grey" area. if any ULA is needing assistance with something like that please let me know as I wish to ensure player cooperation as well as enjoyment while on the servers.

Regards,

Maxx

unwritten rules should be brought to the attention of ULA/clan (if ULA, they'll simply relay to clan) within a reasonable timeframe so the rule can be discussed and either made written or shot down. another option is to post about them. unwritten rules are temporary bandages, and people like omega have been enforcing some that are certainly not rules, which is abuse. if an unwritten rule is not brought to the attention of higher-ups, it isn't a rule.

people seem to forget this.

[Meltdown]

tbh ever since thecat i havent seen one bad admin around on the z server, expect myself.:icon_mrgreen:

[Omegxkid]

So I have never made any unwritten rule, the only thing i have ever done that is not a 100% rule, is when people complain about the crouch areas on all of 2 maps (high_school and mini_room) as they are larger areas but still crouch spots with only one way in to them and only one zombie can fit in at a time just like a vent/tube (the reason behind the limit in tube/vents is to make it an even balance for human to zombie win/lose rate because 2 people in one vent can hold off forever nless all zombies change to deformed *note i still have to tell people every day how to change class* and getting everyone to do this so they have enouph hp to make it into one of the crouchs i have listed with 8 people in it that all know what they are doing gives zombies almost a .001% chance of winning) is if and when people start asking people to get out is come up with a limited number, and in the rules it does say limited how ever there is no number. The reason behind this is because a crouch spot is just like a cade area just without any props, and in the rules it states the first one in a cade (or crouch as they are the same thing just no prop) has the right to do what ever is needed to Live, this inclueds asking people to stop coming in as it jumps the chance of zombie spawn in there cade up, and insted of just random slays or having people bitch at me because i am not doing anything at all I just say ok here is a limit for now. In a way i can see this as a made up rule how ever as seen in Max's post there are gray areas and other then Phil we have no ULA that play Zm much so you do not see all the sides of the coin, you just see what is said and as an admin on Zm it is almost 100% imposable to make everyone happy, and if we dont do something we almost always get everyone bitch trolling each other so it was just an easy wrap on a vary big hole in the rules, other than this I have do nothing or come up with any magicl ruling or mystic you must do as i say thing ever, so I would love to know how I have all of the sudden become this rule maker guy!

I again note that I only inforce the limited crouch as it does say this on the forums under crouch areas when we get people just trolling for zombie kills to up there rank (we get this a lot in the rooms I am talking about mind you) and rank manipulation is breaking the rule and so many people get in the spots just to get them self turned (not to toss anyone under the bus but (")( ^_^ )(") is one of the people thay would do this all the time same with .,. just to rank up)and like i said its same as a cade just propless, so it was just easyer to when people are doing this, to set a limit insted of not doing anything so in a way i am just using the gray area to help make the admins job more effective under our gray areas.
unwritten rules should be brought to the attention of ULA/clan (if ULA, they'll simply relay to clan) within a reasonable timeframe so the rule can be discussed and either made written or shot down. another option is to post about them. unwritten rules are temporary bandages, and people like omega have been enforcing some that are certainly not rules, which is abuse. if an unwritten rule is not brought to the attention of higher-ups, it isn't a rule.

people seem to forget this.

[phil.™]

So I have never made any unwritten rule, the only thing i have ever done that is not a 100% rule, is when people complain about the crouch areas on all of 2 maps (high_school and mini_room) as they are larger areas but still crouch spots with only one way in to them and only one zombie can fit in at a time just like a vent/tube (the reason behind the limit in tube/vents is to make it an even balance for human to zombie win/lose rate because 2 people in one vent can hold off forever nless all zombies change to deformed *note i still have to tell people every day how to change class* and getting everyone to do this so they have enouph hp to make it into one of the crouchs i have listed with 8 people in it that all know what they are doing gives zombies almost a .001% chance of winning) is if and when people start asking people to get out is come up with a limited number, and in the rules it does say limited how ever there is no number. The reason behind this is because a crouch spot is just like a cade area just without any props, and in the rules it states the first one in a cade (or crouch as they are the same thing just no prop) has the right to do what ever is needed to Live, this inclueds asking people to stop coming in as it jumps the chance of zombie spawn in there cade up, and insted of just random slays or having people bitch at me because i am not doing anything at all I just say ok here is a limit for now. In a way i can see this as a made up rule how ever as seen in Max's post there are gray areas and other then Phil we have no ULA that play Zm much so you do not see all the sides of the coin, you just see what is said and as an admin on Zm it is almost 100% imposable to make everyone happy, and if we dont do something we almost always get everyone bitch trolling each other so it was just an easy wrap on a vary big hole in the rules, other than this I have do nothing or come up with any magicl ruling or mystic you must do as i say thing ever, so I would love to know how I have all of the sudden become this rule maker guy!

I again note that I only inforce the limited crouch as it does say this on the forums under crouch areas when we get people just trolling for zombie kills to up there rank (we get this a lot in the rooms I am talking about mind you) and rank manipulation is breaking the rule and so many people get in the spots just to get them self turned (not to toss anyone under the bus but (")( ^_^ )(") is one of the people thay would do this all the time same with .,. just to rank up)and like i said its same as a cade just propless, so it was just easyer to when people are doing this, to set a limit insted of not doing anything so in a way i am just using the gray area to help make the admins job more effective under our gray areas.


Allowed - As a human, this does not apply to zombies
Tube
Barricades
Crawl Spaces

An area when its player limit has been exceeded
-Only two people are allowed per tube
-Only two people are allowed per vent opening

Keyword in the rules is "allowed". Crawl spaces is allowed by humans. The only player limit that is restricted in vents/tubes. Crawl spaces is not included in the restricted.


Secondly, you can't force anyone to not follow you to a cade, or make someone get out of your cade.

Sabotage – Killing other players by in game map tricks, bugs, and purposeful tagging
Using map triggers to kill team mates (IE Blowing up the bridge)
On escape maps, shooting map made barricades that were designed to hold zombies (IE Doors on Mines of Moria)
Sitting in a spot to purposefully get tagged and kill the rest of your barricading group.

If they are in a cade with you and they spawn zombie, they can tag you. Fair game. Is it a cunt move? Yes, but them spawning as zombie and tagging you is not team killing, is not sabotage, and not rank manipulation. Humans who purposefully get caught (getting too close to windows, too close to doors etc) then yes. This is team killing, sabotage and could fall under rank manipulation.

[B1ackOut]

Getting purposely tagged, unless constantly done (and by then they should be banned for that) will not create that much rank manipulation so unless you constantly allow someone to break the rules, it should be the last thing you ban them for. One of the only actual cases of rank manipulation ever was Hallwagner (he went from 200-top10 in about a week) and he would spawn zombie every round on ze's and tag upwards of 5-10 humans a round, hence padding his stats. Most people only can tag 1-2 people by doing that in a zm barricade, which a good zombie will beat even if they have to break down cades.

[.,.BS]

omega:
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Phil:
Apology accepted. It takes some cojones' to apologize properly in a heated conversation like that, although you were indeed mistaken.

As far as the rest goes, I too definitely stand by what I said, so if you want to admin your servers like that, that's up to you. What servers I want to game on, that's up to me.

We'll leave it at that.


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[jwtemp]

Does that mean you're out? Because I'm hopeful that means you're out.