Ridiculous rules and unfair rules.

[aero]

PMing Zero then, because I guess I can't express how I feel about rules in the rules section of the forum. My bad.

[Milkster]

Let me stop you there, you never got threatened to be banned at all. I never once said, "I will ban you" or anything along those lines. What I said was, "Don't spray that" - "Don't spray that again" I said it three times to you. Then you went on to say how wrong it was, I never made the rule. We as admins have to enforce them and as an admin you went out purposely and broke that rule in particular.

[aero]

I understand what you did and why, but I'm saying it is a bannable offence Milk. And I don't believe it should be.

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Literally not 10 minutes ago, a guy is spraying pictures of mutilated butt hole, no one says anything. But the second a dick goes on the wall it's the end of the world.

[Milkster]

Then if you have a problem with a rule, private message Zero or catch him on Steam. He is slow at replying but he always gives you a reply. The problem is that you went out to deliberately break the said rule.

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Shock Images are also against the rules, you could have done something about it.

[sup]

Silly rule but I was there and I definitely don't recall Milk threatening a ban. In fact he (or possibly another admin, I didn't look that closely) specifically said that admins cannot kick/ban other admins.

[aero]

I was not trying to say Milk was threatening to ban me, I'm sorry. I'm trying to say It is something I would get BANNED for. I'll edit the post. Anyways sorry Milk, I thought this section of the forum was to discuss RULES.

[brett friggin favre]

rules can be discussed here, but this one has been discussed time and time again. something like a mutilated butt hole is against the rules by anyone's standards i think...gay porn or anything similar (a dick) is also not allowed. it's been brought up plenty of times and it won't be changing. we all understand not everyone will agree with every rule, but they are what they are. those who make the rules (chiefly zero) OWN the server, and therefore can set any rules they wish.

[Carmichal]

Follow the rules or find another server that allows those sprays =/. As for the shock picture report it next time or add admins to your friends list. There's lots of good admins here who are more than willing to step in. I bet you if you add me, brett, maynard, scribble, phil, old bastard, owns, cyber and more you will never have an issue go un-dealt with again. There is plenty you could do. As a lady I understand the bias but also understand that the majority of the players are male and ONLY want to see boobs and tits, if it really bother you so much disable sprays. I really do doubt it will change tbh. Also if you deliberately went out of your way to break the rules... then I suggest you learn to handle your issues in a more mature fashion. It will give validity to your claim and more people will be more willing to hear you out. Anyhoo sorry you are frustrated, but please don't do anything in the future to make yourself look foolish.

[Meltdown]

Yes the kids these days like to spray porn of womans as there just meat bitches. Altough i find the rules unfair, this has been brought up many times and it will not change. It seems womans are degradable to a point where it is just sick to see certain sprays. I can see why the rule is in place, to protect certain people i guess. But i never understood it myself why all the other sprays where aloud.

[aero]

I've already lost whatever respect I had with certain admins about this. It's over with. I don't know what Zero will tell me but it's most likely what everyone says. Sorry, I decided to be Under The Influence last night and had a bitch fit. I guess I saw it as sexist but I'm a hypocrite anyways because I couldn't give two fucks about feminists. I do understand the majority of the players are men and they don't want to see that, I do understand that I went out of my way to break rules because I was being an emotional vagina, so, sorry. I'm always facing unfairness, sometimes I feel like super duper bitch assassin and feel like I should stand up for myself. But i'm just going to back to my place as admin and keep my mouth closed.

Then we're all happy. Sorry for an unnecessary post.

[kionay]

happens to the best of us from time to time, long as it doesn't become a constant thing i think we can all move on no problem

ass for the dick/butthole pictures maybe people/the admin didn't see the butthole picture by coincidence

...or perhaps he/she/it/they didn't notice it because they've been on the internet so long they've become desensetized to the whole thing

unfortunately i think it may be very well possible to see a disgusting gaping butthole in passing and think nothing of it just because it's the internet :(

[CYBER]

Pretty sure if you ask Carmichal, or Owns, or other female members of the community if they would protest against "sexism" and request to allow penis pictures around every corner, you'd have a lot of support for your campaign.

</sarcasm>


It's not about sexism, it's about the shock effect. I've yet to see a single guy see a (non-mutilated) picture of a vagina and go "EWWWW, lady parts!" ...Hell, even most girls on the server would have something to say about it, as a side comment, even just as a conversational started between her and the poster.

Now tell me, do you think that a penis looks good? Don't you think that an 11 year old might be a bit shocked when they see a penis sprayed in their game. Mind you that usually those penises are usually mutilated or atrociously huge for the average teenager, and this WILL come as a shock effect. It's simple. Most men AND women think that a penis is not much of a sight to see, and wont go out of their way to check out a pic of one mid game.

When it comes to a point where world advertisements sell sexuality by hinting at side-ballsacks instead of side-boobs to attract the MAJORITY of the community, then present me the argument that displaying a dick is equivalent to displaying a vagina.

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Oh and, for the record, most vagina pictures (AGAIN, non gross) is nothing more but women thighs, and a "missing" section that goes in and is usually non visible to the outsider eye( Do i really have to take you back to your school Health classes ? -.-), where as a fucking penis is more emphasized, and shown there on full display.

So in reality, the entire rule can be to not display reproductive organs at all. but seeing as the average vagina pics posted are the lack-of something on a pelvis, hinting at something hidden within and unseen normally without a gynoscope (shut up its a word now), i'd still argue that technically no "female" reproductive organ is displayed in the picture per se :P


tl;dr:
it's a rule that have been made and revisited every year for many many years, and the GENERAL consensus, im talking more than 99% of all players (male and female) on the server simply do not want to see gay picture or pictures of penises. And we've yet to see a girls' motion to allow so... why? because no one minds a voted pretty sight, but everyone avoids a voted shock-picture in game.

ps: i just woke up, might have derailed somewhere or made no sense. if so, shut up anyway, it's a rule that's not changing lol <3

[brett friggin favre]

If ever a wall of text was needed, cyber......this was not the thread that needed it.

[What]

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Oh and, for the record, most vagina pictures (AGAIN, non gross) is nothing more but women thighs, and a "missing" section that goes in and is usually non visible to the outsider eye




This was hilarious. Perhaps one day Cyber will see a vagina.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

This was hilarious. Perhaps one day Cyber will see a vagina.


ok. TECHNICALLY, by the strictest medical definitions, he might be right. but this isn't a health classroom. its the real world. ffs cyber. for someone whose name used to be CYBERSecks, you really are playing up the virgin angle aren't you?

[ZERO]

The difference is that the types of images allowed are generally either looked at or ignored. The types of images not allowed generally cause one to turn off their monitor or start feeling sick.

Put really simply I do not want to see dicks in the server and given that I run the server I will not have pics of dicks in it. lol

[What]

Sounds like the opposite of Cyber's hard drive

[CYBER]

Sounds like the opposite of Cyber's hard drivefor the last time, I will not upload you pictures of my dick. My winrar free trial expired!

Brett, I am the voice in the night, and when a thread lacks confusion/rage/obliviousness/comedy-relief, I must provide my services, for they shall be needed.

What and aco, why don't you enter in a debate about the existential meaning of vaginanism, why don't you?

[What]

At this point im not even certain you know what a vagina is.

[Carmichal]

What and aco, why don't you enter in a debate about the existential meaning of vaginanism, why don't you?

yeah...

I dislike all the lady parts in game not because it is shocking but because it's degrading... unrealistic examples of what women are. But meh. I dislike penis sprays in game because well they are always meant to shock.

I find it kind of highlarious that people spray porn it's like "hey guys lets get boners together." just a bit homoerotic.

[Milkster]

I've already lost whatever respect I had with certain admins about this. It's over with. I don't know what Zero will tell me but it's most likely what everyone says. Sorry, I decided to be Under The Influence last night and had a bitch fit. I guess I saw it as sexist but I'm a hypocrite anyways because I couldn't give two fucks about feminists. I do understand the majority of the players are men and they don't want to see that, I do understand that I went out of my way to break rules because I was being an emotional vagina, so, sorry. I'm always facing unfairness, sometimes I feel like super duper bitch assassin and feel like I should stand up for myself. But i'm just going to back to my place as admin and keep my mouth closed.

Then we're all happy. Sorry for an unnecessary post.

Well...

[Carmichal]

Oh and aero don't get too down on yourself no one is perfect and we all make mistakes pick up and brush off. We are glad to have you be an admin here. Just take a breather and then come back.

[Sin]

Oh and aero don't get too down on yourself no one is perfect and we all make mistakes pick up and brush off. We are glad to have you be an admin here. Just take a breather and then come back.

Speak for yourself bitch. I'm perfect.

[Assassin]

Speak for yourself bitch. I'm perfect.

lol...