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CYBER
01-20-2014, 01:05 AM
Hey zero, any chance we can have some regular expression search capabilities in the server stats? (or similar partial-search options?)

usage:
i want to search partial names, ips, and steam ids etc...

I'd like to be able to search for something like:
192.168.2.*
or
192.168.*
to list all ip addresses on a specific network, or that start with said segment?
ex: 192.168.2.17 192.168.2.133 192.168.47.221 etc...

i've noticed a pattern where some players change their ip by a digit and then create a new account and join the servers. whether they were hackers, bypassing a ban, or simply going all out to hide smthn... i'd rly like the option to search for their NETWORK ip, not just their actual pc ip, just to get a clear picture on something...


also, is there a way to record all MAC addresses of machines used under said accounts?
thanks.

brett friggin favre
01-20-2014, 01:16 AM
as an ibis detective, i would fucking love this functionality.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-z9D2ojLQDn0/T2DGJ8PTetI/AAAAAAAAAUI/o4WLKrpEtRM/s1600/I%2Bapprove.jpg

CYBER
01-20-2014, 01:21 AM
also. can u make it so that when we search for a steam id or ip of an inactive player, we can still see their stats instead of having to go through google cache?

they dont need to keep their gaming ranks, just it would be better to stay within the site when searching for an ip or steam id of a potential hacker bypasser who was banned/left ages ago.

What
01-20-2014, 01:46 AM
and you can see if people live near you and then you can go and leer at them through their window...........

CYBER
01-20-2014, 02:07 AM
and you can see if people live near you and then you can go and leer at them through their window...........

lies!
also, blue boxer shorts don't look so nice on you when you're gaming.
just saying.

jeb the hick
01-21-2014, 05:05 PM
What do you mean by the difference between network IP and pc IP? You mean their Internet IP and the IP address on their home network? IBIS will only see the former. And unless the player somehow owns a block of IP space (doubtful) they're not going to be able to just change their address on a whim. The best example of this I can think of is someone on a college network where the DHCP lease is very short. Also, you shouldnt be able to see the end user's MAC address of the device.

CYBER
01-21-2014, 05:41 PM
What do you mean by the difference between network IP and pc IP? You mean their Internet IP and the IP address on their home network? IBIS will only see the former. And unless the player somehow owns a block of IP space (doubtful) they're not going to be able to just change their address on a whim. The best example of this I can think of is someone on a college network where the DHCP lease is very short. Also, you shouldnt be able to see the end user's MAC address of the device.


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The thing about internet protocols is that there can be class A, B , and C.

almost EVERY "home" internet is class C, whereas bigger establishments like univesities and big companies are class B.


what is class C?
class C means that if you look at a normal ip address like : xxx.yyy.zzz.ppp, within the SAME network, i.e same household if you are talking about a home, different computers with have the EXACT same starting xxx.yyy.zzz . the only difference in the IP between ur computer and ur brother's computer would be the very last part , the "ppp", because the subnest mask of 255.255.255.x forces the initial 3 bits sections to be the same.


in class B however, the subnet mask is 255.255.x.y for example, and this basically makes it so that only the first 2 sets of digits are the same for 2 computers chosen randomly on a huge university-like class network, unless they are part of a sub-network of class C.,

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ok so why the fuck did i tell you all this?

you see, IF zero allows us to be able to search for ip addresses like xxx.yyy.zzz.* , this will list all ip addresses that start with the exact sequence entered + a last set of digits.
but wait, that sounds familiar, does't class C networks have the same first 3 sets of digits? Why yes! OH right, the class C networks point to HOUSES of multiple individuals! meaning that the list of people shown by search will display people in the same class C network household, like multiple computers owned by the same guy, or brothers/sisters in the same house, or a guy using static ip to change the last digit constantly....


but that means something doesnt it? yup, you see if i found 2 different people with the same starting xxx.yyy.zzz.* , and one of them is hacking, or was perma banned before etc, and now i found another active account for them, that means that they are bypassing a ban, and it will help us CONFIRM that the 2 individuals are linked under same roof (brothers are both banned) or it's the same individual, in which case both accounts are banned as well..

This feature will also allow people like brett and I to track down duplicate and stray accounts, that suspected hackers usually try to keep at bay by making them inactive for a long time and changing their last ip digits so that we can't search up previous ips they had under the same house and detect their old accounts, who could have been banned, or who show some fucked up stats.



tl;dr:
ur network ip is given by the router, the router then applies a subnet mask to give you an individual ip for each computer on that network, by keeping the first 3 digits of the ip and changing the last one (this is class C network routing).
and being able to search for the first 3 digits will display family members or multiple PCs belonging to the same network to help us close down on hackers :)

need more explanation bud?:)

jeb the hick
01-21-2014, 08:33 PM
Uhhh... I'm going to let someone else explain why a lot of that is wrong. But I'll tell you flat out, even if multiple people play from one household, it will still appear as the same IP address. A home's internal network is never directly connected to the Internet, i.e. you can't contact a 192.168.0.0/16 address from the Internet because that's reserved for private networks.

When I play from home, my computer's home network address is in the 192.168.0.0/16 range, but my address shows up in game as coming from some block from Comcast.

As an example of this, check out phil, minjae, and dinkzdaddy's IP addresses when they play. The history in their stats will share many IPs because they all play at work most of the time.

phil.™
01-21-2014, 08:40 PM
and you can see if people live near you and then you can go and leer at them through their window...........

Open your stoooopid curtains. I can't see you.

Steamer
01-21-2014, 09:34 PM
What Jeb said. Even a DHCP network can be readily masked. I get what your saying cyber, but only external ip counts. It's MAC or nothing. Then again MAC can be spoofed. With enough know how, I shall always return.

CYBER
01-22-2014, 02:51 AM
What Jeb said. Even a DHCP network can be readily masked. I get what your saying cyber, but only external ip counts. It's MAC or nothing. Then again MAC can be spoofed. With enough know how, I shall always return.


no wonder i fuckin failed my networking course 4 times (not a joke, that's like my damn kryptonite in my damn field:S)

well i don't know to that extent, but what i do know is that people, who have multiple ip addresses logged to stats, usually 2-3 of them are almost identical, with only difference in the last digits.
and as far as i know, it WILL help at least filtering some ips or put a list of people that i can take a look at manually... just saves me time.

brett and i already caught like 2-3 bypassers (proven on other counts too) just by running a crapton of ip searches and discover that only the last digit was different, and we could have spotted that a long time ago had we been able to search by the first few numbers.

hell, catching haxor's marijuana account was greatly helped by the location of his ip compared to his other accounts.

now i could be wrong on some networking facts, because it's not my forte, but i would definitely appreciate the functionality i'm requesting, if possible? :) :D

Meltdown
01-22-2014, 03:26 AM
It is difficult, ip, networks and all the shit can be masked changed etc the real smart asses will bypass almost everything u try, but then again seeing the average hackers, there not that smart after all.

jeb the hick
01-22-2014, 12:32 PM
brett and i already caught like 2-3 bypassers (proven on other counts too) just by running a crapton of ip searches and discover that only the last digit was different, and we could have spotted that a long time ago had we been able to search by the first few numbers.

But that really isn't something that the user controls. I don't choose what my IP address is when I play, Comcast decides that for me. And if I use some manipulation to receive a new one, then I don't have a say in that either. When you ban someone's IP address it's not going to matter in a few months time when their ISP allocates them a new one. Hell, there's even a small chance that two unrelated players can get an address in the same close IP range provided they have the same ISP and live near each other.

Perhaps I'm not understanding how you were using ip searches to discover bypasses.

What
01-23-2014, 01:26 AM
i was not known with the class a, b and c and through the read of the post above i got them .. Appreciate sharing this information with us here

why is this still here?

jeb the hick
01-23-2014, 12:29 PM
i was not known with the class A, B and C and through the read of the post above i got them .. appreciate sharing this information with us here

Congratulations. :wtg: Your understanding of networking is probably on par with your command of the English language.