Blaze STEAM_0:0:10734683 18/04/14

[CYBER]

Name: Blaze
Steam id : STEAM_0:0:10734683
Banned by : Cyber
Reason: Aim noticeable mostly on the deagle. and possible walls
link to ban: http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0%3A0%3A10734683+&Submit=


Map demo attached, fast forward a bit from start, focus on the deagle shots.
also as for walls, u can see micro predictions here and there but most noticeably at 34k if not mistaken, shooting at a guy behind the crates.

it's doing it again where my in-game view of the guy is WAY more obvious aimbot that in sourcetv. but this time Tom Erdenay ALSO saw the obvious deagle aimbot jumps and wrote me on steam as well... so im starting to think that sourcetv is smoothing out demos heavily?


also, while watching Blaze, a guy named ARTHUR will join halfway and go 10 in 0 predicting ppl and shit, i'm about to rewatch the demo for HIM as well for bhop script and walls, but in case i dnt post anything, just take a look in case it's brought up.

[Passarelli]

It probably has to do with it being directly on the server. You would probably find the difference in staggering is due to your personally latency to the server, as in the difference between the time it takes for him to stagger once is likely ~your latency to the server.

[CYBER]

Ok so I want to point out that both Tom and I saw him snap shooting with the deagle and the a symmetric wobble after shooting immediately the followed by him pretending to shake his cross hair 'in celebration' to hide it off, his most notable ambit shot was on a bot early game à couple rounds after Tom said 'I'm gd I already have a bot' at start, when Tom threw a smoke grenade and walked in it, you can clearly guess where to would be heading but never fires a single shot in there probably afraid of how the aim will turn out.
Somewhere after 60k, another player joins the game name togglecopter, and they specifically quote the following to Blaze "wow blaze, you are the best deagler in the game, this all i gotta say"... So clearly that makes 3 ppl who saw his ambit in action but not obvious in source TV...

I knew I should have recorded a personal demo... Wait I think I did. I will check after work.

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And about the walls at 34k?

[CYBER]

ok found a personal demo of my recording.
and i hope it helps the arthur bhop slightly uphil at tick 2000,
and hopefully this will show a SLIGHT wobble of blaze's deagle at 18500, it's not the most obvious one, i remember in game i saw this and wayyyy bouncier. (but didnt record yet...)

[Erdenay]

Can confirm what Cyber said - his movement was incredibly smooth. Granted, it was a spectator's perspective and quite biased, but it did look 100% symmetric.

[phil.™]

Again, this thread took me a while to get to because it wasn't as obvious, and def needed some downtime to review sourcetv demo, and cyber's personal demo.

I'm not seeing much walls, just use of sounds, and radar.
34K when he anticipates where the CT is hiding behind the box, ehhh that's just mere good luck, and he was slightly off to the right. In all honesty, where he was shooting, that is where I would normally camp as well lol.

I believe he has low spread aim on, because when he shoots, he will have slight jitters, with headshots, and then after shakes his own mouse side to side to cover it.
11K, 43K with m4 and ak, 58k, 72k and 93K especially. These ticks, he will shoot with a weird snap and a slight jitter. I thought it could have contributed to luck shot, but after watching cybers own personal demo, and with tom seeing this, and toggle seeing this, his jitters are def there with a VERY high hs percentage rate.

My vote, hacks.

[SCRIBBLE]

the snap is awfully robotic but i only see arthritic/nervous jitter. great use of sound and burst fire. sv_showimpacts 2 shows the placement of the shots and they look very human to me.

no evidence of aim or walls.

[minjae]

I watched this a ton of times.
I honestly don't see any evidence of walling or aimbotting.
Yeah, he gets some nice deagle headshots, but I'd still rule it no hacks.

[CYBER]

it seems we are at a bit of an impass here

I would usually let it go at this point and unban,
but i know what i saw in game, and i am going to let it go through proper channels just because if it fails to ban (probably will fail, considering sourcetv rly smoothed the fuck out of our views), at least people will be aware to keep an eye on him if he showed up again...

and im also waiting to see if he will ever post an unban thread, or he knows his hacks and never bothers.
Because like passerelli says, it could be just a new batch of hacks currently in tweak mode, and recently released that are sync'd live to make it hard to see, but because of the game latency, we can see it better


Fuck i wish you came into that game Phil when i told u weird shit is happening lol... 2 ulas seeing what tom, toggle and i saw in game would have nailed him....


I'ma wait, and let it go through proper channels, if someone votes to unban him, i will happily do it myself, just raising awareness.

[Xerenix]

I agree with Scribble and Minjae.

Great use of sound (Could hear where they were in the demo aswell) and at 34k, in my opinion, behind that crate is the most used hiding spot at that bombsite and i could hear Wolf move once when Blaze ran near the bombsite so i would also be wary and possible even shoot at those crates.

As for him using hacks when shooting, it did look a little wierd at full speed but when slowing down and watching the shots, they look perfectly normal to me.

I say no hacks :)

[Old Bastard]

I have watched this demo and everytime he shoots, in slow (around 30% speed), imo there appears to be no aim assist, no aimbot, and he definately isnt walling because if so he would have noticed the people alot more. He spent more time running the opposite direction than anything. As for the deagle headshots, he never aims below the waist and takes his time with his shots. Example at around tick 17400 when Andy was rounding the corner, he was clearly able to be heard running and when Blaze shot he took 3 shots to kill him, the first hitting his shoulder, second hit the wall at the corner right above andy's shoulder and the third was in the head.

No Hacks, Just good sound awareness and takes time.

[brett friggin favre]

i wonder how long it'll take until someone steps up to the plate on this one...and the 4 others

[Xerenix]

i wonder how long it'll take until someone steps up to the plate on this one...and the 4 others

Just two left :D

[anex]

After watching this demo, I have to agree with scribble, minjae, and xerenix. This guy appears to be just really good at pub. I checked out his steam profile and his all of his screenshots, except one, is with him on the leaderboard. He's got over 2k hours logged which I'm assuming is spent playing pub. If he was hacking, he would have been banned a long time ago via vac.

NOW ONWARD TO ARTHUR!

[SCRIBBLE]

unbanned, closed.

[CYBER]

christ i wish u guys could see what Tom and i saw in game.
but like i said in my first post, i was iffy about that ban because of sourcebans not agreeing with what we saw in game.

better luck nxt time, I will then make a personal demo of what shit he pulls in game if i ever bump into him in pub ever agian (doubt it).

thank you anex for handling those, we needed the neutral vote. appreciated.
evreyone keep ur eyes peeled on the guy