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acolyte_to_jippity
06-17-2014, 03:38 AM
It will either be me or aco. Can we agree on this?
Well shit, aco could be a true claimed Vt, and we are fucked again.
Anyone else, insight?
aco is a true claimed VT. though there is nothing aco can say/do to sway any of you. plus aco is kinda tired of this game. sleep time now. lynch me and we lose, lynch phil and we might not.
Passarelli
06-17-2014, 04:06 AM
plus aco is kinda tired of this game.
Aren't we all? I'm about ready to vote for wolf so he can shoot me. XD
Nemesis
06-17-2014, 04:57 AM
plus aco is kinda tired of this game.
can say that again. Can we vote GG?
phil.™
06-17-2014, 07:11 AM
Vote aco
kionay
06-17-2014, 07:11 AM
we can always trust blackmage to give us a frightening large informative wall of text, heh
i'm still all for voting phil from d3 actions, but i'd like to see if aco proves to be a better choice (unlikely i feel)
phil.™
06-17-2014, 07:17 AM
[QUOTE=kionay;181171i'm still all for voting phil from d3 actions, but i'd like to see if aco proves to be a better choice (unlikely i feel)[/QUOTE]
I'll be quite honest, I'm really iffy on my vote. I'm just targeting VT's right now as I know one VT fake claimed. For all we know aco could be a claimed VT...
If there is a better lynch, i'll unvote and vote that person.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-17-2014, 07:56 AM
Here is my synopsis. Perhaps it will shed some lightbon the newbies.
First off, phil.. the vt thing isnt entierly true, its possible that a vt is lying but its also possible that none of the vts are lying.
Lets assume there is 3 mafia at this time.
Typically, those three mafia are going to be a goon, gf, and power role. Generally a roleblocker for basic setups.
The only time you see multiple goons is when you have a mod who is a retard or a game with many more people then this and even then, mafia can only make one kill a night per the god fathers order.
The reason it is entierly possible that all vt claims are real is because even after you subteact the vts and the cop. There is more then enough people to fit the blank spots. For example, nema jailer claim could easily be roleblocker and that he has been entierly honest with us in regards to who he has used his ability on. Pass could be dv and mafia aligned and bade could benlying about being third party.
However as I have stated before id put money on phil, then aco.
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And my phone could be broken and not typing what im pressing on this atupid broken keypad.
Nemesis
06-17-2014, 08:58 AM
If I was mafia why wouldn't I have been roleblocking the doc since day 2? OB dropped hints like a retard since then so it would have been easy to make him useless.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-17-2014, 09:33 AM
No idea why. My post was ment to remind people that they ahould benlooking at things from alm angles.
play with what you said, perhaps you felt that brett would die regardless, as it had been talked about that night and decides to roleblock a potential target who was cop. This way, you would know the cop wasnt fake claiming when you found that there claim had a failed investigation on n2 or whichever night.
Better question would be, why didnt you roleblock the cop on n3 after the cop claimed. Which is why what I talked about in my last post is thebless likley answer and that phil and aco are more worthy of the scum name.
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I think my phone is dyslexic.
Who has the most votes between phil and aco?
phil.™
06-17-2014, 09:39 AM
I believe it's aco with 2 votes, me with 1 vote.
Passarelli
06-17-2014, 12:13 PM
Unvote
Vote Phil
2 more votes for a Lynch.
If 2 more vote for Aco, I'll switch back.
phil.™
06-17-2014, 12:19 PM
So i have 3? Aco 2?
Do we even have a game plan for upcoming night and day? Or we just winging it now?
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-17-2014, 12:27 PM
vote phil
Iv said since d3, im almost positive phil is scum.
Nemesis
06-17-2014, 12:28 PM
So i have 3? Aco 2?
Do we even have a game plan for upcoming night and day? Or we just winging it now?
There was a game plan at one point? I distinctly remember people not doing what they were told, there was never a game plan, just idiots.
kionay
06-17-2014, 12:31 PM
So i have 3? Aco 2?
Do we even have a game plan for upcoming night and day? Or we just winging it now?
well imma scrub so i'im essentially winging it from the get-go with little more to go on than "it could be this way or it could not because this game is complex and hurr de durr" and phil acting scummy to me
so as long as it's phil it's a win-win-(maybe sorta lose but still win) for me
VOTE PHIL
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Iv said since d3, im almost positive phil is scum.
same here, and almost positive is good enough for me
phil.™
06-17-2014, 12:35 PM
You guys are idiots. Even though aco and I were valid candidates to be lynched, he has brought nothing to the table. You guys are all acting scummy in a way, just because I got shit moving faster..
Anywho, like i said, I'll take one for the team.
Once i die, people to look out for: Aco, mikey, nem.
Nemesis
06-17-2014, 12:35 PM
You know what? I jsut want this to end, I don't care anymore
unvote if I had one.
Vote Phil
BladeTwinSwords
06-17-2014, 12:35 PM
Let's hope we get this right.
phil.™
06-17-2014, 12:36 PM
same here, and almost positive is good enough for me
You are the worst kind of people.
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Let's hope we get this right.
Negative. BUTTTT, no fighting it.
Good luck town, hope one of you get something right during the night...
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-17-2014, 12:42 PM
You guys are idiots. Even though aco and I were valid candidates to be lynched, he has brought nothing to the table. You guys are all acting scummy in a way, just because I got shit moving faster..
Anywho, like i said, I'll take one for the team.
Once i die, people to look out for: Aco, mikey, nem.
because me and nem have been investigated and happen to BOTH be god fathers? Perhaps you are just throwin around SCUM
phil.™
06-17-2014, 12:43 PM
Hahaha you guys are idiots and really blind sided.
The only reason why I KNOW that Old Bastard was working with someone (nem and/or brett) it's because I am mafia. My real name is John Abruzzi.
Old bastard was not part of my mafia, only What was. When i voted to lynch old bastard, and when it was confirmed dead and a mafia, i KNEW there was another mafia group.
If you guys do vote lynch me, the other mafia group or vig gets a kill at night, leaving the town fucked with a tie, soooo well played nem. Well played with a tie. I see why you kept trying to rush the town to vote for me..
No shit nem was dodging all the calls when people kept saying "what's your role, why haven't you claimed", kept getting others to claim first, he is the other mafia group. Nem, you prob knew there was another mafia group when What got killed night 1 huh? You were confused as I was on day 2... And that's why you've been pressing on me to say my role. You wanted me to say a bs role, and have brett work me out and get the town to lynch me. You two are fucking sneaky bastards, working together. Who's total in your mafia? Just you and old bastard? You got mikey working for you? Or is mikey blind sided by all this?
ORRRR, could it be bm and brett? Because having 2 investigations is kinda bs on town. I don't know who is who, but I do know old bastard was not part of my mafia, and you guys wanna go and lynch me? Assuming there are 2 more mafia, at worst case scenario, if I’m lynched, nem will kill you at night, leaving second town mafia tied instead of having to kill me themselves (which they cannot).
Brett is probably right too. There is a god father, me, but I have a vest? I dunno, maybe to balance out between town and 2 group mafia’s. I’m the god father with vest, What was my role blocker, the other mafia is nem as ninja and old bastard as goon to balance the investigators. That’s the only way it seems legit that I have been attacked and nobody saw it. Unless brett and bm are lying, but seeing they clearly aren’t because I was just caught, but then again, they are being played by nem.. Well played brett lol.
I can only see there being 2 mafias, but if there is a 3rd from the start, tomorrow, town is fucked. You guys let me kill nem the ninja, lynch me tomorrow, and bm or brett, whichever the two of you is the good one, keep an eye on mikey. If he doesn’t move, then he’s the 3rd mafia, and you guys lynch him next day. IF there is a 3rd that is.
If someone says I’m buying time, that’s fucking RIGHT I am buying time. But whats the point of buying time and CONFESSING I am mafia, if I don’t know for sure that there is another mafia and I want to leave that info out there before I get lynched TOMORROW.
Oh.. I should also share this.. In my role text, it said that “Mafia will win when ALL threats to your mafia faction are eliminated”... “YOUR” and “FACTION”… Now re-reading this, I realized cyber sent us that hint from the start because he probably didn’t anticipate so many death day 1? Atleast I would have survived long enough to kill off a fucking other mafia..
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-17-2014, 12:43 PM
Throwin aroumd names ar this point*
idea why it didnt add that to my post
Nemesis
06-17-2014, 12:43 PM
because me and nem have been investigated and happen to BOTH be god fathers? Perhaps you are just throwin around SCUM
Every time Mikey says something the agrees with what I said I feel sad inside.
kionay
06-17-2014, 12:43 PM
because me and nem have been investigated and happen to BOTH be god fathers? Perhaps you are just throwin around SCUM
i think this is a lynch isn't it? don't we have enough votes now with nem being the hammer?
Nemesis
06-17-2014, 12:44 PM
Also, what the fuck was that Phil?
phil.™
06-17-2014, 12:45 PM
Lol, ya'll gonna feel stupid after What posts. I'm just pissed we couldn't get one decent information on who's scum on last night. Pity.
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Also, what the fuck was that Phil?
Just fucking with ya'll from the last game. I'm lynched anyways. You hammered it.
BladeTwinSwords
06-17-2014, 12:46 PM
I see 5 votes for phil, I'm pretty sure that's a lynch.
Nemesis
06-17-2014, 12:46 PM
Well technically it's not over.
What hasn't posted anything, and we're assuming Pass is a double voter but nothing was ever confirmed so we can all keep talking.
BladeTwinSwords
06-17-2014, 12:46 PM
Ok, now I'm worried that phil isn't mafia.
kionay
06-17-2014, 12:47 PM
Ok, now I'm worried that phil isn't mafia.
that's what he wants
phil.™
06-17-2014, 12:48 PM
Aco, Kion, Mikey, Nem, Pass.
That's fiveeeeeee.
You guys really FUCKED this up :wtg:
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Ok, now I'm worried that phil isn't mafia.
We have someone who is USING THEIR BRAIN!
Nemesis
06-17-2014, 12:52 PM
ok, now i'm worried that phil isn't mafia.
dooooonnnnnnnn'tttttt ccccaaaaaarrrrreeeeee
phil.™
06-17-2014, 12:56 PM
First of all, again before I get lynched, I'd like to congratulate mafia for steering all claims towards VT, and making everyone believe you. Ya'll are just laughing and snickering, knowing those who are about to get lynched is not scum, and how easy it is to mind fuck us. Brilliant, indeed brilliant.
Also, if i was scum, you think i would put all that attention on myself D3? I put all that attention on myself to get something moving, i didn't care if i got lynched, i'm a VT. If i was scum, i would give talk but very minimum, and wait for the night *cough* what aco is doing.
Thats a lynch, now everyone shut the hell up. Scene coming in a couple hours.
Voted for Lynch: Aco, Pass, Mikey, Kion
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Now:
Things were relatively quite this day, but not much was becoming clear.
They had seemed to have given up, submitting to their situation in ignorance.
“Well we seemed to have reached an impasse.”
“No one has any ideas?”
“It would seem not.”
“Look, I am telling you guys the truth, I’m on your side, if they only way to prove that is by my death so be it.”
“Are you serious? What good will that do?”
“Listen, I never really knew all this stuff was real, I just wanted to have a good show, this is too much, just end it man.”
“Well, if you insist…..”
Phil- Ed Zeddmore (Vanilla Townie) has been lynched.
Smiles broke over a few of the remaining faces, while the others were growing increasingly desperate.
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Night 4 begins
phil.™
06-17-2014, 04:45 PM
**yikessss..**
brett friggin favre
06-17-2014, 05:04 PM
***this is like watching a kid tie his shoelaces together and he tries to walk away and it takes 4 fucking weeks for him to fall on his face***
CYBER
06-17-2014, 06:30 PM
***this is like watching a kid tie his shoelaces together and he tries to walk away and it takes 4 fucking weeks for him to fall on his face***
*more like Watching retarded adult mentally challenged fat men with the beer bong cap and retro Walkman earbuds shedding tears as they constantly drop their favorite ice cream cone on the ground... Very... Very... Fucking.... Slowly. *
Then:
Even with their depleted numbers, the town was abuzz this night.
“We can make sure that you reach the target tonight.”
“Good, it’s his time to go.”
“Everything is set, now go.”
One separated from the group eager to stalk his pray again, this time intending to strike.
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He found his pray, busy in the barn.
“You have been a thorn in our side long enough, I’m going to enjoy this.”
“You? I should have known.”
“I think you have said and done enough, we’ve enjoyed your foolishness but it’s time to end this!”
Eyes glowing yellow were the last thing he saw, as his head was torn clean off his shoulders, and then went back to the rest with another.
Nemesis – Samuel Campbell (Town Jailer) has been killed.
Across town one was hoping to come closer to solving this mystery, while another was taken in, for his protection or maybe someone else’s.
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Now:
Day 5 begins.
BladeTwinSwords
06-18-2014, 01:34 PM
We've entered LyLo. We absolutely MUST lynch the correct person.
Kion, investigation report now. You are probably our only power role left besides Pass.
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With 7 People left, we need 4 to lynch.
Pass, I highly advise you to NOT vote for the time being.
Passarelli
06-18-2014, 02:45 PM
Yep, already aware. If I do vote and have it wrong, It'll just be instant hammered by scum.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-18-2014, 04:46 PM
Pretty much waiting on kionay at this point. What, can you maybe remind him that day phase has started? He might not know.
kionay
06-18-2014, 05:06 PM
MMMM!!
BAYUM fucking FINALLY
blackmage you dirty GUILTY motherfucker >.>
BladeTwinSwords
06-18-2014, 05:09 PM
Well, it took you FIVE Days to get a useful result.
kionay
06-18-2014, 05:20 PM
Well, it took you FIVE Days to get a useful result.
yea :C
not sure if bad luck or bad at the game... my guy tells me it's the latter
either way, blackmage, you have some splainin' to do!
Wolfenstinger
06-18-2014, 05:39 PM
Part of the reason why his "lynch me to get a free townie killed" would make mafia's life easier... TBH nobody said I was gonna shoot phil. I said I'm shooting the guy I chose cause <3. It's ok though if nobody knows who I'm thinking of because it makes it easier that way.. . ...
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-18-2014, 05:50 PM
So we know this then, Kionay got a anti town result from blackmage, however, blackmage cannot be the killing role. Nem who's words are all the more credible now, said he jailed blackmage and a kill still happened.
So this is were we flex or muscles. We have options now.
Do we lynch blackmage for his investigation result.
Do we bet lynch on who the killing role is.
Do we lynch wolf and pray to the gods he has some sort of ESP.
Do we lynch Blade for also being an anti town role (per his claim).
Do we take our eyes off aco completely or keep the option available.
I mean, its endless.
Wolfenstinger
06-18-2014, 06:11 PM
I say we beat the ever loving crap outta Blackmage until he tells us the Krabby Patty secret formula. :smirk:
Wolfenstinger
06-18-2014, 07:10 PM
Players currently Alive : Kionay(cup), Passarelli(doublevooter), Cyber[Me] (hunter?), Aco(vt/mafia?), Blackmage (guilty/mafia), Blade(3rd Party survivor?), Mikey(VT/possible GF?)
Players we confirmed : Sin (VT), Nemesis (Town Cockblocker), Old Bastid (Town Faith Healer), Phil (VT), Stan (Town Cop), Brett (3rd Party Werewolf), Scribble (Town Bodyguard), Locust (VT)
Sounds bout right.... right?
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-18-2014, 07:18 PM
Players currently Alive : Kionay(cup), Passarelli(doublevooter), Cyber[Me] (hunter?), Aco(vt/mafia?), Blackmage (guilty/mafia), Blade(3rd Party survivor?), Mikey(VT/possible GF?)
Players we confirmed : Sin (VT), Nemesis (Town Cockblocker), Old Bastid (Town Faith Healer), Phil (VT), Stan (Town Cop), Brett (3rd Party Werewolf), Scribble (Town Bodyguard), Locust (VT)
Sounds bout right.... right?
The only confirmed person we have alive is Kion, he claims on who he investigated have proven correct with sin and nems deaths. Additionally, anyone apart from him could be GF as well.
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and everyone apart from kion could also be mafia.
Passarelli
06-18-2014, 07:37 PM
We should lynch blackmage then. We should also look at Aco again tomorrow.
Tomorrow will likely be 2 mafia left with 5 alive. Blade, I hope you keep siding with town! Kionay, make your investigation tonight count again, they will likely come after me.
I'm going to go back through and see if I can spot Blackmage trying subtly protect anyone or steer the conversation away from anyone in his walls of info.
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Just from the list of players, I think it is likely Aco is the killer and mikey is the godfather. Lets see if blackmage gave us any evidence on that front.
kionay
06-18-2014, 07:58 PM
We should lynch blackmage then. We should also look at Aco again tomorrow.
Tomorrow will likely be 2 mafia left with 5 alive. Blade, I hope you keep siding with town! Kionay, make your investigation tonight count again, they will likely come after me.
I'm going to go back through and see if I can spot Blackmage trying subtly protect anyone or steer the conversation away from anyone in his walls of info.
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Just from the list of players, I think it is likely Aco is the killer and mikey is the godfather. Lets see if blackmage gave us any evidence on that front.
assuming i make it tonight, i mean with no sort of protection left i'm probably going to get skullfucked tonight :C
Blackmage
06-18-2014, 07:59 PM
There's always this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP8wPXQmDt4)
Or more seriously, the only real thing of use to say is, what roles do we think the mafia have? It probably isn't defensive. The killing roles required them to be outted truly, or day protection. Probably wasn't roleblocker, as the cop is alive and working. Strongman or second kill, again, cop is alive and no extra people are left. The only real things left would be vote related or falsifying. The only vote relating person is Pass. I voted Sin without hammering, and Blade voted to hammer, proving my vote is worth 1 vote. Which means they probably have some way of falsifying reports. They were trying to divide and conquer. However, it's LYLO, so if you decide to lynch me, so be it. I will stay back and speak if requested, otherwise, see you on the other side.
Side note: I was mostly wrong about Nem. However, out of 4 nights, he neither role blocked a killer or protected a target. Neat.
Wolfenstinger
06-18-2014, 08:06 PM
There's always this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP8wPXQmDt4)
Or more seriously, the only real thing of use to say is, what roles do we think the mafia have? It probably isn't defensive. The killing roles required them to be outted truly, or day protection. Probably wasn't roleblocker, as the cop is alive and working. Strongman or second kill, again, cop is alive and no extra people are left. The only real things left would be vote related or falsifying. The only vote relating person is Pass. I voted Sin without hammering, and Blade voted to hammer, proving my vote is worth 1 vote. Which means they probably have some way of falsifying reports. They were trying to divide and conquer. However, it's LYLO, so if you decide to lynch me, so be it. I will stay back and speak if requested, otherwise, see you on the other side.
Side note: I was mostly wrong about Nem. However, out of 4 nights, he neither role blocked a killer or protected a target. Neat.
/offtopic
:axe:YOU WILL TELL US THE KRABBY PATTY SECRET FORMULA:axe:
/ontopic
Anyways... If say I did happen to die... How much were you hoping I would just shoot a inno and not a mafia member? Because honestly, I was gonna shoot you yesterday had I been lynched. Now that there's confirmation of what you are, there's no point.
BladeTwinSwords
06-18-2014, 08:16 PM
We should lynch blackmage then. We should also look at Aco again tomorrow.
Tomorrow will likely be 2 mafia left with 5 alive. Blade, I hope you keep siding with town! Kionay, make your investigation tonight count again, they will likely come after me.
I'm going to go back through and see if I can spot Blackmage trying subtly protect anyone or steer the conversation away from anyone in his walls of info.
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Just from the list of players, I think it is likely Aco is the killer and mikey is the godfather. Lets see if blackmage gave us any evidence on that front.
Well at this point, I can either side with town, which benefits me, or side with mafia which still has a chance to backfire.
As a Survivor, I simply have to stay alive. Most Survivors do not last as long as I do.
This is towns decision on who to lynch, not mine. Whoever you all vote for, I will support you, including voting for myself if I have to.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-18-2014, 09:29 PM
We should lynch blackmage then. We should also look at Aco again tomorrow.
Tomorrow will likely be 2 mafia left with 5 alive. Blade, I hope you keep siding with town! Kionay, make your investigation tonight count again, they will likely come after me.
I'm going to go back through and see if I can spot Blackmage trying subtly protect anyone or steer the conversation away from anyone in his walls of info.
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Just from the list of players, I think it is likely Aco is the killer and mikey is the godfather. Lets see if blackmage gave us any evidence on that front.
why?
**
Passarelli
06-18-2014, 09:50 PM
Kionay, at this point I'm pretty sure I am as likely to die as you so that the mafia can end this sooner (especially if there is only a Godfather left).
How many scum do you guys think is left?
We had 15 people to start and 2 confirmed 3rd parties. If we have 2 mafia total that means town would make up 73% of the starting group and mafia would have 13%. If we have 3 mafia, town would make up 66% and Mafia would be 20%.
I'm leaning for 3 members because Blackmage was role blocked and the kill still went through. (only if the Godfather can not make a kill unless all other scum is dead. I haven't been able to find this in the rules at all. The only thing I spotted where one person on scum made kills was poisoner. Please point out what I'm missing in the wiki so I can play this game better ^_^)
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why?
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Do you think there are 2 or 3 scum in this game?
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-18-2014, 09:58 PM
Kionay, at this point I'm pretty sure I am as likely to die as you so that the mafia can end this sooner (especially if there is only a Godfather left).
How many scum do you guys think is left?
We had 15 people to start and 2 confirmed 3rd parties. If we have 2 mafia total that means town would make up 73% of the starting group and mafia would have 13%. If we have 3 mafia, town would make up 66% and Mafia would be 20%.
I'm leaning for 3 members because Blackmage was role blocked and the kill still went through. (only if the Godfather can not make a kill unless all other scum is dead. I haven't been able to find this in the rules at all. The only thing I spotted where one person on scum made kills was poisoner. Please point out what I'm missing in the wiki so I can play this game better ^_^)
Im going to break this down so that you may understand it to the best of your ability....
Town Power Roles - 7
Cop
Doc
Body Guard
Double Voter
Jailer
Deputy
Hunter
Third Party - 2
Werewolf
Survivour
Vanilla Townies - 5
Mafia - 3
Goon
God Father
Unknown
Total = 17 Assigned roles
How might that be possible you ask?
17 assigned roles = two people are lying, those two people cant be dead. So its 2 people who are alive, excluding blackmage. This is how i came up with there being 3 mafia.
You are suggesting that the two people left lying are myself and aco.. which leaves only 3 actual VT's. If you honestly believe that then i suggest you do more research on how to balance a basic game that avoids role madness. Only 3 VT's with 7 town power roles vs 5 anti town roles? If that is the case, which it is not... the mod would not be modding again, at least not here. As im sure nem would give them an actual earful.
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as i stated several handfuls of pages back, i dont think it is hard to claim given the theme. The cast is damn near endless and the role is easier to fake due to the amount of newer players here in this game who may not fully understand balancing.
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oh, to answer your question you added. I think there is 3. Given the reasons i posted. I also think that one of the power role claims is lying.
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and that aside from blackmage, our best shot at this point (assuming kion kicks the bucket tonight) is to push aco.
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time for bed now, work in the morning.
Passarelli
06-18-2014, 11:21 PM
I'm glad to see you put it so well. Now by that logic, I can not be mafia or else we would be end gamed. If there were 3 mafia and I were the third there would be 4 votes controlled by Scum.
That said, I think we should lynch Blackmage today and let Kionay inspect whomever. There will be 5 of us left tomorrow. If I die, Kionay will likely pick out the Scum. If not, I trust Wolf to hunt down the truth.
BladeTwinSwords
06-18-2014, 11:29 PM
Well the issue is, there is no one really left to investigate. We know Kion and Pass are for a fact innocent. If my memory serves correct, the only one who hasn't been investigated is me, which would turn up anti-town since I'm not town-sided.
acolyte_to_jippity
06-19-2014, 01:18 AM
also, were he to investigate someone else, he'd be killed by mafia tonight.
i'm going to come clean, i haven't been honest with ya'll. not entirely. i'm VT, but i do have bulletproof. i have a night or two worth of not being shot by fucktards. I didn't want to mention this, in the event i could get a mafia to waste a night kill on me. now that shit is being laid down, yeah.
kion and pass are clean. blade is third party. blackmage is confirmed scum. who is left besides me? mikey and wolf, right?
only one choice, based on all the info we have so far. unless someone can give me a compelling reason why its false, mikey is the only choice i see, considering how we have accepted that Wolf is a town-aligned hunter.
note that possibilities include:
kion not cop (unlikely)
blade not third party (...i'ma say unlikely)
wolf lying about being hunter (possible)
acolyte_to_jippity
06-19-2014, 01:39 AM
blade & blackmage...
there has to be one cop. we haven't seen them yet. and since no counterclaim, i'm accepting Kion as cop.
we have seen passarelli's doule-vote work. and that could have hurt us alot more than helped. in fact, if he was a scum dobule-voter, we'd lose already (that's 4 votes from scum, 3 from town). so he's clear.
i am starting to get the feeling that blade has been bullshitting us from the beginning.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-19-2014, 04:41 AM
I'm glad to see you put it so well. Now by that logic, I can not be mafia or else we would be end gamed. If there were 3 mafia and I were the third there would be 4 votes controlled by Scum.
That said, I think we should lynch Blackmage today and let Kionay inspect whomever. There will be 5 of us left tomorrow. If I die, Kionay will likely pick out the Scum. If not, I trust Wolf to hunt down the truth.
that dosnt make any sense... that first part. Yes, you could likley be a mafia aligned double voter.
Wrong blade. Blade, Pass, Aco, Wolf. These are the remaining living who have not been investigated.
@aco... lmao a VT with bulletproof..... You admit to lying, just to lie in our faces with some crazy ridiculous claim.
Wolfenstinger
06-19-2014, 04:55 AM
At this point... I could just be a body guard like scribble. Winchester's Bodyguard service, servicing Kionay 24/7 when he needs it most. <3
Wolfenstinger
06-19-2014, 05:26 AM
With that thought aside though, yeah a VT with a vest? Wat?
Passarelli
06-19-2014, 05:52 AM
Mikey, the game would be over if there were 3 mafia and I was among them. If you think there are only 2 mafia, then it is possible I'm guilty. If you believe there are 3 mafia, I am proven innocent because mafia would control the lynch if I were with them.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-19-2014, 06:15 AM
Mikey, the game would be over if there were 3 mafia and I was among them. If you think there are only 2 mafia, then it is possible I'm guilty. If you believe there are 3 mafia, I am proven innocent because mafia would control the lynch if I were with them.
I see what you are saying. With 4 to lynch, you count as two votes.
Wolfenstinger
06-19-2014, 07:55 AM
I'm willing to do this:
Lynch Aco today
Leave Blackmage for Tomorrow (unless new info comes up)
Risk Kionay's death
If Kionay dies tonight
Lynch Blackmage OR
Lynch me and we play "russian roulette" where I have the gun and it's fully loaded.
If Kionay lives (reinvestigates Mikey or investigates Blade at this point)
Possible Outcomes at the moment :
Mafia has a Traitor
Mafia has a Goon
Mafia has a God Father
Mafia has a Strong Man (x-shot, maybe 1 shot for when they get in a pinch?)
Mafia has a Framer / Lawyer (epicmafia?)
Anyone else have thoughts on this? Blackmage doesn't HAVE to contribute, nor should anything be taken for granted, but at this point input on the speculations I can come up with are fine I guess? I just took a few minutes looking at a few roles.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-19-2014, 08:28 AM
Sounss good, however I wouldnt waste another investigation on me. I have no idea why the hell people think im scum and no one has given any reason apart from the fact that came up innocent via kionay. If you dont trust thencops investigation reaults, at least be consistent and additonally arfue that blackmage could still be town. It is possible, mafia could have a framer as wolf said or even a bus.
Anyways, im down with wolfs plan. Anyone else?
Dor the record, I dont care tbh, he can investigate me again and get the same result.
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In the order you read the above is the orser in which my edits occur.
Mynphone is dying and not all my key strokes register.
Sounds, apart from the fact that I* came, the cops, argue, for.
Wolfenstinger
06-19-2014, 09:04 AM
I'm only saying you're possibility of scum is due to cop seeing you as a VT and nothing more.
But here's a question - do mafia games REQUIRE a god father? If not, i'm still willing to take Mikey as a possible VT still due to the deaths of the other VTs (RIP).
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-19-2014, 09:17 AM
I'm only saying you're possibility of scum is due to cop seeing you as a VT and nothing more.
But here's a question - do mafia games REQUIRE a god father? If not, i'm still willing to take Mikey as a possible VT still due to the deaths of the other VTs (RIP).
So the people who get investigated who come up town... those are the ones who are mafia. So what about black mage, since he came up mafia, he must be town? It makes little sense to me for you not to trust the cops investigation, then turn around and suddenly trust it when he outs an anti town.
further more, we have 3 dead vts and 7 town power roles, someone is lying, rather 2 are lying. Further more, ask your self how umbeleivably stupid and unbalanced it would be to only assign 3 vt roles when there is only 3 mafia...
again, im for your plan, I suggest the cop investigate wolf and not waste it again on me.
Passarelli
06-19-2014, 10:06 AM
I don't think the werewolf was supposed to die night 1 Mikey. That would have been an extra kill several nights.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-19-2014, 10:13 AM
I don't think the werewolf was supposed to die night 1 Mikey. That would have been an extra kill several nights.
Not entierly. We dont know what the role describes if it is what epic mafia depicts it as, he would have to guess someones role correctly to get the kill. If he guesses wrong, he dies.
BladeTwinSwords
06-19-2014, 11:10 AM
I will not vote for anyone unless either kion, pass or MAYBE mikey votes for them. I don't trust anyone else.
Wolfenstinger
06-19-2014, 11:11 AM
I'm crazy. In more ways than one. If you know me well enough, you'll know I do some really, really stupid things. And breaking everything Cyber had set up beforehand, might as well be one of them. Keep in mind Mikey, i'm one of the replacements. I'm not perfect, as I am my own person. Also majority of my participation is forced due to ... nothing is happening and I wasn't intending to at first join.
With all that said ... the plan (that's on paper... I guess?) :
Aco gets lynched today
Blade gets investigated tonight.
Kionay lives and gets to tell us results (if he doesn't get shanked / decapitated.)
Passarelli has a chance to die tonight if Aco wasn't goon OR Blade turns out to be something else
Mikey lives to speak the next day (if he doesn't die)
I pick my nose (if I don't die.)
Blackmage reads everything and pouts that he got caught and will be lynched off soon. (if he doesn't somehow commit seppuku.)
The dead groan at how long this game is already taking.
I'm not voting till Kionay says anything. AKA I think that's where all the pressure is at the moment. GL Kionay. :wtg:
kionay
06-19-2014, 01:39 PM
I'm not voting till Kionay says anything. AKA I think that's where all the pressure is at the moment. GL Kionay. :wtg:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m26nvnNG5o1qkk10ro1_500.jpg
dafuq you listening to me for? i'm practically VT in the case i die tonight, on top of the fact that this is the second game i've ever played means i am NOT the droid (read: leader) you are looking for
BladeTwinSwords
06-19-2014, 01:57 PM
Follow the Cop. Plain and simple.
BECAUSE you are the Cop, you are the leader by default.
Passarelli
06-19-2014, 02:17 PM
Wolf, it depends on how verdicts come back to Kionay.
The exact wording of the Cop's result is not standardized, with the following options being most common.
Mafia/Not Mafia - This only checks if the target is Mafia-aligned. Werewolves, Serial Killers or other third-party members thus have implicit investigation immunity.
Town/Not Town - All non-Town players will return an incriminating result, even if they are benign in practice (e.g. Survivor or other third parties with nonstandard Win Conditions).
Guilty/Not Guilty - Non-Town roles return incriminating or non-incriminating results depending on the moderator's decision.
If verdicts are the last one, investigating him will not really help.
If we lynch Aco today and he is VT (with a vest?!) we will end up with 3 mafia alive and 5 people left.
If we lynch Blackmage today, we will have 2 mafia with 5 people left.
The people likely alive will be Wolf, Mikey, Blade, Myself or Kionay, and Blackmage or Aco.
The list is getting down to the nitty gritty.
If you guys think that only 1 scum has been killing this whole time it would have to be Blade. Both Aco and Blackmage have been roleblocked. Would it stop the killing for a night if we killed Blade?
BladeTwinSwords
06-19-2014, 02:31 PM
Wolf, it depends on how verdicts come back to Kionay.
If verdicts are the last one, investigating him will not really help.
If we lynch Aco today and he is VT (with a vest?!) we will end up with 3 mafia alive and 5 people left.
If we lynch Blackmage today, we will have 2 mafia with 5 people left.
The people likely alive will be Wolf, Mikey, Blade, Myself or Kionay, and Blackmage or Aco.
The list is getting down to the nitty gritty.
If you guys think that only 1 scum has been killing this whole time it would have to be Blade. Both Aco and Blackmage have been roleblocked. Would it stop the killing for a night if we killed Blade?
Killings by Mafia can be done by either a Goon or a Godfather. Even if the killing roles were to die, a moderator usually allows Power Roles to kill in exchange for not using a night power.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-19-2014, 02:35 PM
Wolf, it depends on how verdicts come back to Kionay.
If verdicts are the last one, investigating him will not really help.
If we lynch Aco today and he is VT (with a vest?!) we will end up with 3 mafia alive and 5 people left.
If we lynch Blackmage today, we will have 2 mafia with 5 people left.
The people likely alive will be Wolf, Mikey, Blade, Myself or Kionay, and Blackmage or Aco.
The list is getting down to the nitty gritty.
If you guys think that only 1 scum has been killing this whole time it would have to be Blade. Both Aco and Blackmage have been roleblocked. Would it stop the killing for a night if we killed Blade?
What explained that this game would be another basic game with no modifiers ect. Even then, a vt with a vest is completely absurd, I have never seen it nor read about its practical use.
Passarelli
06-19-2014, 02:45 PM
Later Castiel gives Dean information on how to stop Lilith, revealing that Chuck is protected by an archangel who will intervene if Chuck is threatened. By putting Chuck in the same room with Lilith, a scenario that Chuck had not predicted, the archangel threatens to appear and Lilith flees.
This lends some believably to Chuck being bulletproof. I just do not want to hit a VT and lose earlier then we have to.
I'd rather play it safe today and vote Blackmage.
Wolf, I'd be willing to bet on you tomorrow.
Passarelli
06-19-2014, 03:14 PM
Mikey, he could have baited scum into trying to kill him. Why he didn't choose to do so doesn't quite make sense to me.
Then again, Godfather with a Vest really isn't that uncommon.
Going back through posts, Blackmage tried to steer votes at Aco several times. I encourage those of you with more experience then me to go back and read Blackmage's posts and his interactions with Aco, Mikey, and Blade.
Anyway, I'd rather vote for Blackmage to play it safe for another day then let wolf take a crack at who remains. He would have a 66% chance of guessing correctly.
acolyte_to_jippity
06-19-2014, 04:28 PM
Honestly, I don't care at this point. this game has been terrible from day 1, and What's modding has been sketchy at best. removing posts with no indication/record of them ever existing, bullshitting cyber into a modkill...he's about as close to being bastard as you can do without fucking with the roles too much.
believe me or don't, i don't give a fuck. hell, i'm tempted to post the role i was given and take the modkill just to shove it up all your asses. lynch me or don't.
vote mikey.
oh, and as to why i didn't try to bait people into night killing me, is because A) you all thought i was scum anyway, so they wouldn't have bothered trying to kill me in the hopes i would get lynched. and B) because you fucktards wouldn't have believed me when i said i got shot at night, but survived.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-19-2014, 04:44 PM
Honestly, I don't care at this point. this game has been terrible from day 1, and What's modding has been sketchy at best. removing posts with no indication/record of them ever existing, bullshitting cyber into a modkill...he's about as close to being bastard as you can do without fucking with the roles too much.
believe me or don't, i don't give a fuck. hell, i'm tempted to post the role i was given and take the modkill just to shove it up all your asses. lynch me or don't.
vote mikey.
oh, and as to why i didn't try to bait people into night killing me, is because A) you all thought i was scum anyway, so they wouldn't have bothered trying to kill me in the hopes i would get lynched. and B) because you fucktards wouldn't have believed me when i said i got shot at night, but survived.
Why me?
Wolfenstinger
06-19-2014, 05:31 PM
Vote Blackmage
I'm fine with the safer route then. I'll initiate it for the time being. Because if any mafia could kill afterwards, just give some sort of clarity to the situation. Also typing this on a phone. Terrible idea idk why you ppl do this.
All i can say is nobody is safe once night hits. Anything can happen once the lynch is done.
Passarelli
06-19-2014, 05:38 PM
B) because you fucktards wouldn't have believed me when i said i got shot at night, but survived.
We would have when no kill happened that night.
Passarelli
06-19-2014, 05:53 PM
Vote Blackmage
I'm fine with the safer route then. I'll initiate it for the time being. Because if any mafia could kill afterwards, just give some sort of clarity to the situation. Also typing this on a phone. Terrible idea idk why you ppl do this.
All i can say is nobody is safe once night hits. Anything can happen once the lynch is done.
Naw, it is between Kionay and myself as to who will die tonight.
Passarelli
06-19-2014, 06:19 PM
Actually, Aco convinced me. Mikey is the Godfather. He has played like scum all game. Kionay got me off his case for a while by clearing him--however, look at the interactions between him and Blackmage as well as how they reference each other. Also look at who they both suggest voting for. I know this is asking a lot since there are 134 pages so far.
Also note that when Sin's key point in his plan was proving that Kionay was sane Mikey waited until after the lynch to point out that What already stated that there were no hidden modifiers.
He has been overly suspicious of me the entire game, and now it is going to bite him in the ass. He even tried to throw suspicion on me today when Blackmage's post yesterday showed I would be cleared today (or scum would auto win)
If I die tonight, that means there are likely only 2 total mafia because they will not fear Kionay figuring out who else is Scum.
Just wanted to get that out there in case I die tonight.
Vote Blackmage
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-19-2014, 06:42 PM
Actually, Aco convinced me. Mikey is the Godfather. He has played like scum all game. Kionay got me off his case for a while by clearing him--however, look at the interactions between him and Blackmage as well as how they reference each other. Also look at who they both suggest voting for. I know this is asking a lot since there are 134 pages so far.
Also note that when Sin's key point in his plan was proving that Kionay was sane Mikey waited until after the lynch to point out that What already stated that there were no hidden modifiers.
He has been overly suspicious of me the entire game, and now it is going to bite him in the ass. He even tried to throw suspicion on me today when Blackmage's post yesterday showed I would be cleared today (or scum would auto win)
If I die tonight, that means there are likely only 2 total mafia because they will not fear Kionay figuring out who else is Scum.
Just wanted to get that out there in case I die tonight.
Vote Blackmage
i havnt been overly suspicious of you the entire game, nor at all. I am simply providing rhetoric as alot of people are new and fail to analyze information from all sides and make note of all possibilities. The level of trust in peoples claims just because they claimed and dont talk much is astonishing so i add in possibilities that would otherwise contradict what is on the surface. For no other reason to help people understand that game better. A wiki dosnt have a section on how each individual plays this game. I also dont see any coloration between blackmage and i speaking together in posts. Please provide evidence. Per your logic there, Wolf must also be mafia because i have agreed with things he has said and anyone else who has said somthing that made sense to me.
As for my bit with you, i dont like you, that has nothing to do with this game. Your a pompous ass hole and again, it has nothing to do with this game. I dont expect a close minded dumb ass to understand any of that though.
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To get the ball rolling
Vote Blackmage
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-19-2014, 07:03 PM
correction, i was a tad bit suspicious of you before sin died and confirmed you as a double voter. Even then, a DV isnt specific to alignment, which was all i was trying to portray.
Thats a lynch, scene coming shortly.
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Voted for Lynch: Wolfen, Pass, Mikey
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Now:
The day was short, and the town’s resolution was solid.
“Well, well, well, look what we have here.”
“You thought you could just keep tricking us, and we wouldn’t figure it out?”
“You have the wrong person, I’m with you, can’t you see?”
“Don’t listen to the idjit, I know what I saw, its time to take this tattooed freak down!”
“GET HIM!”
Blackmage- Djinn (Mafia Bus Driver) has been lynched.
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Night 5 begins.
Then:
The night was short and brisk.
A desperate time for desperate actions.
“Well, its time to take some action, can’t let the death of some monster worry us.”
“Agreed, I think we both know what we have to do.”
“I don’t know why we didn’t do this sooner. I HATE Dick.”
With that one set out to seek his quarry.
“Ha Ha, Fantastic. These cattle are doing just what I need. Soon I’ll escape this hell and get started on my real plans.”
“Oh, the best laid plans of mice and men, or whatever the hell you are.”
“Oh, outstanding, one of the little monsters wants to play.”
“I’m afraid you don’t know who you’re dealing with…..”
A struggle ensued, and due to the strange power in this place, the stronger fell. A faint yellow glow and a scream let everyone know the deed had been done.
Passarelli – Dick Roman (3rd party Double Voter) has been killed.
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NOW:
Day 6 begins
**hahahaha i told you fuckers***
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-19-2014, 09:44 PM
I fuckin knew that pompous ass wasn't town!
Kionay, what you got mang!
BladeTwinSwords
06-19-2014, 09:45 PM
What!?
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Pass, you motherfucker...
phil.™
06-19-2014, 09:47 PM
**still a good read even when dead, almost better than playboy subs**
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-19-2014, 09:51 PM
will check back in the morning, time for bed.
BladeTwinSwords
06-19-2014, 10:06 PM
The Bus Driver situation brings up a whole slew of issues.
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1. Pass was 3rd Party. 3rd Party are not notified of fellow members so I had no clue. I am also very curious as to his win situation. If was just to survive until one team won, he could have easily sided with mafia and won it for them on Day 4.
2. Kion, your investigative results are now mostly worthless because of the Bus Driver, you now have to reinvestigate people to make sure they are actually innocent.
3. With 5 people left, it takes 3 to lynch. Keep in mind, this is still LyLo since one fatal mistake could make town lose.
4. Our Current Roles:
Kion: Town Cop
Blade: 3rd Party Survivor
Mikey: Vanilla Townie?
Wolf: Town Hunter/Vigilante?
Aco: Bulletproof Vanilla Townie?
I'd say either Mikey or Aco are lying.
kionay
06-19-2014, 10:38 PM
a bus driver? we have fucking Ms. Frizzle fucking over here are you kidding me? sonofabitch!
i investigated aco and it turned up innocent, but now mikey could be mafia
this fucking game (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
acolyte_to_jippity
06-19-2014, 11:17 PM
Kion: Town Cop
Blade: 3rd Party Survivor
Mikey: Vanilla Townie?
Wolf: Town Hunter/Vigilante?
Aco: Bulletproof Vanilla Townie?
I'd say either Mikey or Aco are lying.
i agree.
vote mikey
also, for whoever was talking about this being a no modifier game, it wasn't. What said no HIDDEN modifiers. unless he said something else in a different place. Vest wasn't hidden from me.
BladeTwinSwords
06-19-2014, 11:28 PM
I'm too tired right now so I will cast my vote tomorrow.
acolyte_to_jippity
06-20-2014, 01:10 AM
point of order, are we actually LyLo?
two third parties (three, actually including werewolf) AND three mafia?
i'm leaning more towards the two-mafia setup. which means we're not at LyLo. though care still needs to be taken.
BladeTwinSwords
06-20-2014, 01:14 AM
I honestly have no clue. This game has been odd.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 04:03 AM
i agree.
vote mikey
also, for whoever was talking about this being a no modifier game, it wasn't. What said no HIDDEN modifiers. unless he said something else in a different place. Vest wasn't hidden from me.
You still have failed to give a reason. Perhaps your smacked your head and lost a few braincells?
I was investigated, i participated in a lynch on mafia (something you appear to have disappeared for), and have had towns intrest in mind all game.
Give me one good reason why you want me dead because i have seen one yet.
Aco is a lying two face, a vested VT is unheared of as well, sure..i bet he has a vest, but he is far from VT.
Vote Aco
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havnt seen*
Wolfenstinger
06-20-2014, 05:04 AM
Mikey, you seem to be getting desperate. I already told you this; I am a substitute. Don't forget that. There were already all sorts of god damn clues from the beginning due to Cyber. But if you chose to ignore them and try listening to me because I clearrrrrrrrrrrrrrlyyyyyyyy am good at maintaining order and leading
I'm bout ready to stab you.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 05:17 AM
Mikey, you seem to be getting desperate. I already told you this; I am a substitute. Don't forget that. There were already all sorts of god damn clues from the beginning due to Cyber. But if you chose to ignore them and try listening to me because I clearrrrrrrrrrrrrrlyyyyyyyy am good at maintaining order and leading
I'm bout ready to stab you.
Not desperate. Cybers clues were horrible as well, im not saying you are not a hunter but the possibility of you being third party is still plausible. Unlikely but plausible.
Nothing about my above post is desperate, simply reminding scummy mc scum about some facts that are present at this point. The one that really irks me is how he vanished when the lynch on blackmage started, as if to appear afk while a lynch on mafia went down.
Wolfenstinger
06-20-2014, 05:21 AM
When I afkd during Blackmage's lynch after initiating it?
I've got a reason. A very good one. It's one that shouldn't be shared with this thread. At all. If you want to know it I can tell you afterwards outside this thread. Only a few people know of it, and it's irrelevant info to What as long as I am participating somewhat still and gave him my action incase anything did happen to me. That said, I'm keeping it out of forums.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 05:28 AM
When I afkd during Blackmage's lynch after initiating it?
I've got a reason. A very good one. It's one that shouldn't be shared with this thread. At all. If you want to know it I can tell you afterwards outside this thread. Only a few people know of it, and it's irrelevant info to What as long as I am participating somewhat still and gave him my action incase anything did happen to me. That said, I'm keeping it out of forums.
no, not you, aco did.
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i was saying that aco made a fake vote for me, for whatever reason and then disappeared when the lynch on blackmage was initiated by you. He had 0 participation in lynching a mafia, which is far more suspicious then anyone elses behavior at this point.
Wolfenstinger
06-20-2014, 05:48 AM
Tbh, here's how I see it at the moment.
Mikey could be guilty, as Blackmage could have swapped Mikey to me or any other townie that had already passed away. Mikey was in the clear early on.
Aco turned up innocent, but could be god father with bulletproof... (With how things are looking.... leaving it as Random VT with Bulletproof)
Blade could be mafia instead of survivor. < -- possible
Kionay = Cop
Wolfenstinger = Hunter
Passarelli = Dead Double Voter that chose Town side, I imagine his objective was to just be get through it and he decided to help town best he could. He more or less in the end chose to side with Town.
With the above stated... Mikey you're right that Aco wasn't around during Blackmage's lynching, or at least saying anything. Neither was Blade for that matter. Honestly I'm actually more surprised that Kionay is still alive... because... that means somebody wants town to at least have SOME info apparently. We aren't in the dark like the first... 4 days? Outcomes I'm seeing at the moment :
Aco gets lynched - turns up VT
Kionay dies (75% possible)
Wolfenstinger dies (25% possible) - Somebody might get shot?
Mikey dies (doubt it, as he is the GF?)
Blade dies (no he just sits back n watches at this point.)
Mikey gets lynched - turns up VT
Kionay dies (75% possible)
Wolfenstinger dies (25% possible) - Somebody might get shot?
Aco dies (doubt it, as he is the GF?)
Blade dies (no he just sits back n watches at this point.)
Wolfenstinger gets lynched - turns up Town Hunter. [Insert Target Here] gets shot.
Targets would be :
Aco
Mikey
Blade
^-- 1/3 chance of hitting mafia. If game setup is 2 mafia, 3 third parties, 10 townies then town would win if a game of chance is in their favor?
Blade gets lynched - nobody cares.
Kionay dies (75% possible)
Wolfenstinger dies (25% possible) - Somebody might get shot?
Aco lives
Mikey lives
The next day, we drop a pointy stick in between them and let them duke it out...like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCXbib9MahE
Kionay gets lynched - not happening. He's proven himself enough to where we gonna lose him soon. The most he can do is pray that mafia kill me for a game of chance to end this quicker.
My proposition - we took the safer route the day prior. I offer to still lynch Aco like the original plan and go from there. The next safest would be Blade to show if this game is 2 mafia 3 third parties, 10 townies .... but I want to put some faith in the randomness and say it is at this point. If I die, I have stated who I will shoot. But if it is not clear.... enough.... Kionay... Blade - I hope lady luck is in town's favor.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 07:58 AM
I dont like pointy sticks ):
All together you summed it up nicely
acolyte_to_jippity
06-20-2014, 11:55 AM
lets put it this way. lynch mikey. if he ends up being town, then i'll post the PM What gave me at gamestart and take the modkill to bring us to 2 people and end this game. keep in mind kion that either me or mikey could be godfather. that would explain your innocent result. but mikey voting to lynch his fellow mafia member doesn't mean anything. it is more than possible that he did so because blackmage was already outed and wanted to protect himself. hell, it was a smart move. i was in favor of lynching him at that point, however. because blackmage was a known quantity, and i'm pretty damn sure mikey is godfather.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 12:15 PM
lets put it this way. lynch mikey. if he ends up being town, then i'll post the PM What gave me at gamestart and take the modkill to bring us to 2 people and end this game. keep in mind kion that either me or mikey could be godfather. that would explain your innocent result. but mikey voting to lynch his fellow mafia member doesn't mean anything. it is more than possible that he did so because blackmage was already outed and wanted to protect himself. hell, it was a smart move. i was in favor of lynching him at that point, however. because blackmage was a known quantity, and i'm pretty damn sure mikey is godfather.
Wrong again, if I recall correctly, blade said he wins when all threats are gone. If that means other third parties and mafia. Town will lose if you lynch me or another townie today as im sure you, aco, will kill kion tonight for the victory. This is ofc assuming there is 2 mafia left.
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Bottom line aco, you havnt done town any favors, have been playing passivly and under radar, and made a ridiculous claim about being a vt with a vest..
BladeTwinSwords
06-20-2014, 12:44 PM
We have Mikey playing aggressive and Aco playing passive. Who is more at fault. The answer? Wolf because he has a gun!
acolyte_to_jippity
06-20-2014, 01:01 PM
Wrong again, if I recall correctly, blade said he wins when all threats are gone. If that means other third parties and mafia. Town will lose if you lynch me or another townie today as im sure you, aco, will kill kion tonight for the victory. This is ofc assuming there is 2 mafia left.
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Bottom line aco, you havnt done town any favors, have been playing passivly and under radar, and made a ridiculous claim about being a vt with a vest..
and when i get lynched and end up as town, you win, right?
BladeTwinSwords
06-20-2014, 01:05 PM
and when i get lynched and end up as town, you win, right?
Plot Twist, Wolf was Serial Killer all along. dun Dun DUUUUUUUUUUN!
Wolfenstinger
06-20-2014, 01:15 PM
Plot Twist, Wolf was Serial Killer all along. dun Dun DUUUUUUUUUUN!
To hell with this. Safe route Vote BladeTwinSwords
BladeTwinSwords
06-20-2014, 01:20 PM
To hell with this. Safe route Vote BladeTwinSwords
Meanieface :(
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 01:21 PM
Where is kionay?
BladeTwinSwords
06-20-2014, 01:23 PM
Where is kionay?
Masturbating
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 01:27 PM
To hell with this. Safe route Vote BladeTwinSwords
Cant tell if joke or cereals.
BladeTwinSwords
06-20-2014, 01:34 PM
Cant tell if joke or cereals.
Sooper Dooper Cereal
Wolfenstinger
06-20-2014, 01:34 PM
Cant tell if joke or cereals.
Unvote
So Mikey can read
Vote BladeTwinSwords
kionay
06-20-2014, 01:49 PM
Masturbating
i'm not denying anything
btw wolf if we lynch you then you can just shoot blade, right? that gives us twice as much information
Wolfenstinger
06-20-2014, 01:52 PM
Unvote
You want us to use the shot then Kionay?
acolyte_to_jippity
06-20-2014, 02:02 PM
if we lynch wolf and there are 2 mafia left, we lose. if there is only one left, then we're not dead. yet. wait, yes we will be. wtf? there's 5 of us left, right? we lynch wolf, he shoots blade. if blade isn't mafia, then mafia kills someone tonight and we're down to 2 people. that's a terrible plan! that's a losing plan. unless you think blade is the last mafia.
BladeTwinSwords
06-20-2014, 02:17 PM
Wolf just wants to shoot me lol.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 02:30 PM
if we lynch wolf and there are 2 mafia left, we lose. if there is only one left, then we're not dead. yet. wait, yes we will be. wtf? there's 5 of us left, right? we lynch wolf, he shoots blade. if blade isn't mafia, then mafia kills someone tonight and we're down to 2 people. that's a terrible plan! that's a losing plan. unless you think blade is the last mafia.
Thus hom saying its a gamble
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Him* curse you phoneeeeee
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if we lynch wolf and there are 2 mafia left, we lose. if there is only one left, then we're not dead. yet. wait, yes we will be. wtf? there's 5 of us left, right? we lynch wolf, he shoots blade. if blade isn't mafia, then mafia kills someone tonight and we're down to 2 people. that's a terrible plan! that's a losing plan. unless you think blade is the last mafia.
Actually no, if there is two mafia and blade is one of them, the game will end in a draw with 2 people tmrw. Or it will end as a town win.
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Basically, using wolf results im a draw.
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Unless blade is the last mafia, then town wins.
acolyte_to_jippity
06-20-2014, 02:31 PM
Thus hom saying its a gamble
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Him* curse you phoneeeeee
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Actually no, if there is two mafia and blade is one of them, the game will end in a draw with 2 people tmrw. Or it will end as a town win.
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Basically, using wolf results im a draw.
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Unless blade is the last mafia, then town wins.
are you okay accepting a draw?
Wolfenstinger
06-20-2014, 03:14 PM
Can a game end in a draw? I thought if number of townies = number of mafia, it's a mafia win OR if mafia out number the townies.
acolyte_to_jippity
06-20-2014, 03:55 PM
Can a game end in a draw? I thought if number of townies = number of mafia, it's a mafia win OR if mafia out number the townies.
hmm...
how about we don't lynch wolf. we lynch either me or mikey, then if wolf is still alive, he votes for himself and kills off the final scum...wait, fuck. that means blade will most likely win.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 04:06 PM
I guess it would depend on the mod. Or... townie could quick lynch as with 2 people left, it rakes 1 vote to lynch lol
Wolfenstinger
06-20-2014, 04:12 PM
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Win_Condition
seems .... pretty accurate I guess? no?
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 04:32 PM
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Win_Condition
seems .... pretty accurate I guess? no?
sooo.. its basically up to the modi f we land on a day phase with 2 people left, 1 being town and another being mafia.
kionay
06-20-2014, 04:49 PM
this is one helluva second game of me XD
Wolfenstinger
06-20-2014, 04:55 PM
Vote Wolfenstinger
I'll rotate my vote elsewhere if something else is decided later. Probably won't be able to look at the thread rest of the night so yeh. GL.
acolyte_to_jippity
06-20-2014, 04:59 PM
sooo.. its basically up to the modi f we land on a day phase with 2 people left, 1 being town and another being mafia.
unless its wolf and the scum. then its a straight tie. wolf votes to lynch himself, scum agrees. wolf shoots scum. happy happy tie tie.
BladeTwinSwords
06-20-2014, 05:57 PM
Vote Blade
Because I can!
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 06:56 PM
unless its wolf and the scum. then its a straight tie. wolf votes to lynch himself, scum agrees. wolf shoots scum. happy happy tie tie.
or the two have a lynch off... who can post a vote first.. lmao that would be hilarious
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 07:58 PM
wait wolf are you serious? If you feel confident, i trust you but i thought your vote was a joke. reading it over, im skeptical now :o
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 09:47 PM
blah blah blah im drunk and thought of some crazy stuffs!
Hypothetical what if!
What if...
Kionay... is mafia... and the town deputy was a buffed variant of the cop and and.. Kionay has just been making investigation claims all game per peoples claims. Would be easy to lie about being that he didnt claim cop tell about mid game. and and *hiccups* due to the pressure and numbers dwindling, mafia agreed on selling out a mafia role (because it is more significant) to make it appear even more that the "cop" was actually a cop.
lmao the things you think of when your bored out of your mind. I dont actually think or beleive a word of this but it would be soooo epic if it were true.
kionay
06-20-2014, 10:21 PM
blah blah blah im drunk and thought of some crazy stuffs!
Hypothetical what if!
What if...
Kionay... is mafia... and the town deputy was a buffed variant of the cop and and.. Kionay has just been making investigation claims all game per peoples claims. Would be easy to lie about being that he didnt claim cop tell about mid game. and and *hiccups* due to the pressure and numbers dwindling, mafia agreed on selling out a mafia role (because it is more significant) to make it appear even more that the "cop" was actually a cop.
lmao the things you think of when your bored out of your mind. I dont actually think or beleive a word of this but it would be soooo epic if it were true.
what i think mikey was thinking: "hmm, i'm a mafia, kionay is obviously town cop, how do we present the idea of kionay not being town without sounding like 100% scum? i know! i'll say that i'm drunk, that way people will take it as a sort of joke post, but since i putt he words together the thought will be implanted into people's minds and maybe they'll slowly turn against their cop.. it could work"
'drunk'
right, ahuh /s
VOTE MIKEY
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 10:49 PM
what i think mikey was thinking: "hmm, i'm a mafia, kionay is obviously town cop, how do we present the idea of kionay not being town without sounding like 100% scum? i know! i'll say that i'm drunk, that way people will take it as a sort of joke post, but since i putt he words together the thought will be implanted into people's minds and maybe they'll slowly turn against their cop.. it could work"
'drunk'
right, ahuh /s
VOTE MIKEY
lmao wrong, i was just thinking about silly scenarios and shared it.
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You obviously dont know who i am if the word drunk and my name together mean diddly squat to you lol
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and as i stated in that post, i do not think you are mafia, that would be bat shit crazy. I was trying to livin up the dead thread.
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but if you insist on thinking there was anything beyond my post then just some silly discussion, be my guest and lose the game for town. Im not sure how much you have been keeping track off because you havnt been posting much this day but i made my arguments and they are pretty clear. If you dont trust your investigation on me, investigate me again and lets hope you survive the coming night.
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for the record, tonight is the first night in the last month iv been able to actually sit down and enjoy some beers without worrying about responsibilities and obligations over the weekend. (I work for my fathers GC company, constructing commercial buildings. Our sup up and left without saying a word, its been hectic)
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-20-2014, 11:10 PM
Unvote
I trust wolf
vote wolf
BladeTwinSwords
06-20-2014, 11:19 PM
I love you Wolf. Please forgive me.
Unvote Blade
Vote Wolf
Thats a lynch, scene probably coming tomorrow morning cause im tired as fuck.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-21-2014, 12:08 AM
zzZZZzzZZ unacceptable!zzZZzZzZ
acolyte_to_jippity
06-21-2014, 08:23 PM
:cough cough: we waiting until sunday morning, or was there supposed to be something this morning?
CYBER
06-21-2014, 09:36 PM
*mexican mornings?*
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-21-2014, 11:28 PM
ZZZzZ24 hours later.... What the actual fuck XZZZZZ
Now:
With their numbers dwindling, the Town hoped that desperate measures would aid them in their victory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrVYxsQ7IBM
“You are clearly working against us.”
“I think you are, pretty boy!”
“Listen, listen, we all know that at least two of us are the good guys right? So let’s just kill one of us instead of any of the questionable people!”
“Yeah, that way we will know for sure who is against us!”
“But, won’t it be too late by then?”
“Quiet you, we don’t need people to think, we just need people to act!”
“Yeah, come at be guys, lets do this!”
“Ok here it comes…”
Before the gallows dropped and another townie died, Dean had one more thought.
“Before I go, I’m taking you with me ass butt!”
A shot was fired into the crowd, everyone looked around, but no one had died.
One was smiling though, his plan finally coming together.
Wolfenstinger-Dean Winchester (Town Hunter) has been lynched
Clouds began to swirl overhead, and they realized they had made a terrible decision. Two demons remained, and it was all but a matter of time now.
Mafia Win!
Mikey – Crowley (Mafia Godfather)
BladeTwinSwords- Azazel “Yellow Eyes” (Mafia Goon)
Losers:
Kionay- Bobby Singer (Town Cop)
Acolyte- Chuch Shurley (Town 2x Bulletproof)
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Best Player: Blade- though he should have been killed and called out multiple times, his 3rd party claim, once believed, was quit good.
Worst Player: Acolyte- Never questioned anyone’s claim and took every statement a player made for the absolute truth. Combined with not attracting the mafia’s attention, just terrible.
Biggest Derp Award: Tie between Kionay and Nemesis- Kionay wanted to investigate Locust after he had been lynched, nuff said. Nemesis decided to make up a rule regarding roleblocking instead of actually looking it up. This put the town way behind, though they are to be blamed for not bothering to look up the rule as well and instead take another players word for it.
Close but no Cigar: Passarelli- new player playing a role that requires a lot of persuasion to win, one more day and he probably would have done it, though it was disturbing he didn’t call out Blade’s 3rd party claim.
Overall, the town did not play this one great, they had tons of advantages over the mafia, but were too easily persuaded to keep killing their own. Had more of you focused on the actual game instead of trying to over think or meta game this stuff, you would have won. Also, as I stated in the first post, this was a flavor game, not based on a particular plot or season. It is not an RPG, of course demons, werewolves, angels, and the like can’t be killed by a gun or lynching, but this is a mafiawars game flavored by Supernatural, so everyone complaining that X person should have powers is missing the point. Regardless of what anyone says, this is the longest and most post producing game yet played on IBIS, and I label it a success.
Passarelli
06-22-2014, 12:46 AM
Bahahahaha, I knew you were scum Mikey! Bulletproof too it seems.
By the way, for those who are curious. My win condition was be the last man standing (kill everyone else off).
I see a couple key mistakes I made, so hopefully I'll do better in the next one.
Great game, thanks for modding What!
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-22-2014, 12:52 AM
Bahahahaha, I knew you were scum Mikey! Bulletproof too it seems.
By the way, for those who are curious. My win condition was be the last man standing (kill everyone else off).
I see a couple key mistakes I made, so hopefully I'll do better in the next one.
Great game, thanks for modding What!
In the series, Dick is a pompous ass whom Crowley hates. Tis what i took away from the wiki when i read it.
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Your logic was pretty sound but... was also not in my favor!
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-22-2014, 01:23 AM
As for why we didnt kill the cop, we sorta needed him alive, at least up till when blackmage got lynched.
We killed brett N1 because he is intelligent.
We killed brett N2 because ^ and OBs stupid soft claiming about being doctor
We killed scribbs N3 because we figured you people commited to the idea that if scribbs had died, nem was bad.
We killed nem N4 because we are getting closer to victory and he is our biggest liability
We killed Pass N5 we cant have a Double Voter running around when there is only 5 people left going into the next day!
We were going to kill kionay N6 because wel.. he was the only one we could. I anticipated wolf killing blade and me and aco being the last ones alive.
1 thing id like to share with you as you review how to get better.... It was like after a night phase, you all forget everything that transpired in the past. Like having an attention span ... is make believe.
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oh, here was my preemptive write up that i wrote when i was drunk last night. *cough* *cough* kionay.
GG
You Are:
Crowley – King of Hell (Mafia Godfather – You are bullet-proof and will appear as Innocent on investigation)
You may not be the strongest, but you are damn sure the smartest. No matter who steps up to challenge you, you always find a way to win.
Now you just have to make sure you can keep these fools in line while you come out on top, even if you have to do it by yourself.
"What you people never seem to understand is that you are nothing! Fleeting blips of light. I am forever!"
Victory Conditions: You win when all players not aligned with you are dead, or nothing can stop this from happening.
Your fellow mafia members are BladeTwinSwords (Azazel) and Blackmage (Djinn). You can only communicate with each other at night
beginning on night 1.
Ok, to start i would like to point out nemesis. He was the first person and the only person to name all the mafia. He even managed to do it in one post... Why you didnt listen to him during the game is beyond me, as he clearly had an agenda
and plan.
My goal wasnt to be slimey and mysterious, i understand the skill level of most of the players and thought i would assist them throughout the game. Regardless of the fact that i was mafia, you guys cant be blindly trusting peoples claims and completely ruling out
conflicting possibilities.
Pass, you cant learn everything from the wikis. Why you might ask? because 1 the wiki dosnt have a synopsis on how each person in our game plays... that is impossible. Second, a mod is like god and can modify roles however
they see fit to help balance a game. Use a wiki for a base line and use the thinking of "there isnt really any bounds to a role" all at the same time, understanding that a good mod will keep the game balanced.
I recommend researching abilities instead of specific roles. This goes for everyone, familiarize yourselves with abilities, what roles typically have them ect.
kionay... oh kionay... where do i start.... ohhhh where do i I KNOW! That hypothetical "im Drunk Post" I was actually intoxicated and meant NOTHING by the post other then to share a silly scenario.
It would have been epic to have that be the case. It was a mistake posting it but the intent you thought, wasn't actually there. The lesson here is, if i had been town, you would have lynched me.
Secondly, we kept you alive on purpose. reason being.. we had a bus. However, due to nem... we didnt really find an opening to use our bus. After blackmage died, i bet on you either re-confirming me via investigation or having pass show up anti town
as i had suspected after a DV was apparent in the game. Typically, you would be dead the night you claimed... so dont get in that habit.
Nem, you suck... i hate you.. you were a big threat to us intellectually and your role sucked. We pretty much had to use the bus every night after your claim to make sure we confirmed a kill. However, it did cross our mind to
simply hold of on a kill and let your jail incriminate another but by then, the odds of you jailing one of us.. was higher.
OB... words dont even begin to describe how dumb you are. That is all. NEVER make it obvious you are the doctor.
Scribbs, Body guard is a role you want to claim immediatly, preferably after someone claims a power role that can grant information at night, like kion and nem. It would have been wise for you to claim early and acknowledge your inevitable death
then to fight with people about plans.
Sin, wtf where you thinking... your plan didnt make any sense.. i even tried to make sense of it as if i were town. Im still lost, please clarify
Cyber wolf.... Well TBD::: WHY ME... WHY SHOT MEEEEEEE
Brett... You were the first kill. Im sorry :/ The reason you were is because you are good at this game. Not as good as nem, imo but good. The reason i wanted nem alive was because his insight typically gains traction
better then you and it leads players on a war path. For this game, he was being hunted and i would have liked to see him lynched so that we could go into a night phase without worrying about blade being jailed.
The second time we killed you was because OB made it obvious.. and again... on principle.
locust... If you dont have time to play.. dont play
Stan... Worst response ever. At least give an excuse for your abscene, dont edit posts, and dont insult the people playing the game as if you have more important things to do.
To try an make sense of ourkills... for those of you who are not familiar with the role framer.. a framer essentially picks a target at night and frames them as mafia. However, you dont need that role to accomplish that.
it is all about subtly (as kion tried to make of my drunk post) Simply killing a player who was in a pissing match with another over which of eachother is mafia.. incriminates the still living. Either subliminally or pursuasivly
by bringing the matter to the table the following day.
Passarelli
06-22-2014, 01:23 AM
I tried to drudge it up a couple times but you were pretty good at sweeping it under the rug. I couldn't get any townies to see what I was saying most of the time (at least they didn't post as such).
I'm happy that at least Wolf tried to kill you ^_^
Why town would voluntarily lynch a townie under any circumstances is beyond me. I only wanted to do so because if it were me + wolf left it would be a no win game.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-22-2014, 01:28 AM
I tried to drudge it up a couple times but you were pretty good at sweeping it under the rug. I couldn't get any townies to see what I was saying most of the time (at least they didn't post as such).
I'm happy that at least Wolf tried to kill you ^_^
Why town would voluntarily lynch a townie under any circumstances is beyond me. I only wanted to do so because if it were me + wolf left it would be a no win game.
when you gain an even better understanding of the game, i foresee you being another superstar.
brett friggin favre
06-22-2014, 01:31 AM
mikey, blackmage, blade, get out of my ass. it's getting uncomfortable.
anyway guys, i have a fun ibis-based mafia game somewhat planned out, but i'm not gonna rush to put it up, i think we can take a break after this 140-page monster.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-22-2014, 01:41 AM
mikey, blackmage, blade, get out of my ass. it's getting uncomfortable.
anyway guys, i have a fun ibis-based mafia game somewhat planned out, but i'm not gonna rush to put it up, i think we can take a break after this 140-page monster.
141* gosh....
Blackmage
06-22-2014, 02:00 AM
I have a quick correction to Mikey's N3 explanation. He was out of communication, like he said later, and it was his idea that we should kill scribs. Blade agreed with him, however, I wanted to go for Nem, since no one wanted to pursue lynching Nem. It wasn't a total agreement :)
Full post coming shortly :P
SCRIBBLE
06-22-2014, 02:16 AM
I could not risk claiming bodyguard first thing because it was the exact role I was given last game which is highly unlikely.
acolyte_to_jippity
06-22-2014, 02:50 AM
I told you motherfuckers.
oh, and What, i didn't take anyone's claims at face value. only ones i gave a modicum of trust were the people that EVERYONE was trusting.
you're a truly trash mod.
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-22-2014, 03:05 AM
I could not risk claiming bodyguard first thing because it was the exact role I was given last game which is highly unlikely.
Understandable, however, i personally would have taken the risk considering your circumstance. Yes you were given the exact role but i was the one who claimed it after taking over for you.
lol i had such a fun time in this game... watching and laughing my ass off. Please dont be offended by that and know that it was only hilarious because of the role i was given. Had i been anything but town, im sure my feeling would be much different.
What bothered me about towns play is that no one seemed to have the ability to commit to anything and take action. No one portrayed a shred of confidence, exempt is scribbles. Though scribbles turned out wrong, he was extremely confident with his ideas and plans. Indecision eventually leads to the mafia having 1 of two things. 1. time to take notes and plan on night events + Future events or 2. Time to persuade indecisive players into lynching whom best suits mafia agenda.
Typically, players who come of has being confident, are players you want to trust, especially if there logic is sound.
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Basically, the events and conversation of a day phase, directly effect a good mafia teams night decisions and future plan. Dont rely on the mafia killing off key roles because a wiki says so. I think this game is a perfect example of that. Kionay was better left alive as cop, than dead.
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***if the town seems disorganized and uncertain. Mafia pretty much has free rain on manipulating players with kills.
Passarelli
06-22-2014, 03:12 AM
I told you motherfuckers.
oh, and What, i didn't take anyone's claims at face value. only ones i gave a modicum of trust were the people that EVERYONE was trusting.
you're a truly trash mod.
Aco, most of your posts have been bitching. Shit happens and What dealt with it as best he could. Be happy that What took the time to put this game together and you got to play at all.
You claimed VT when you should have soft claimed a power role day 1. Day 2 at the latest. Then you say you lied and that you are bulletproof? If I hadn't realized that you are not very good at this game I would have thought you were the Godfather. A VT changes his claim to bulletproof? Jebus.
A townie that is bulletproof is not a VT. You should have at least tried to give town an extra day or two to figure out who was scum. There are plenty of power roles that are uncommon you could have chosen from.
Blackmage
06-22-2014, 03:35 AM
What, you say Blade's play was good, but you don't know the behind the scenes of THAT one. The night before he made that claim, I said I myself was going to make that claim. Was actually going to be "Eleanor Visyak", but still survivor. A big part of the reason I wanted that claim was because we could bus him and a clear to give him a clear result, but me? I had NO way of getting anything but a "guilty" result. I don't know if Blade even realizes that I felt this way. It happened during the day, so by the time I could confront him about it, there was really no reason to. Beyond that, I enjoyed my scum brothers :)
But, my head REALLY wasn't in this game. I was seriously of the opinion that Cyber was a werewolf, which made no sense, due to OB's trust of him. With his comment about hungry at night, and I thought he called OB a scum hunter, and there was a third thing. Took me forever to notice OB's claim, too. When I saw Cyber's code, I just said to myself "screw that, someone else will probably post what it says". This, plus quickly getting tired of the game (Day 1, watching people insult the Mod, policy lynching someone, and saying "HEY MOD", then Day 2 happened), was the biggest reason I wasn't very active.
I tried to play it my normal "play as a townie". My not voting was part of my "town persona". I did break that rule day one, not arguing to keep Stan alive. I honestly hadn't considered what What posted to be anything more than "I wash my hands of this, play on". Then I just dropped that role when day 2 happened. I got ignored and we lynched a townie, with the prevailing reason of "claim seems odd", which was one of the reason people were looking at Nem earlier in the day.
Here's what player comments I have.
Kion: you did VERY well as Cop, and as a leader. I agreed with all your investigations.
Aco: Like What said, you missed out on getting yourself targeted. The only VT I think we even considered shooting was Sin, and that's because we could be 99% sure he wasn't going to be protected. I am curious what your reveal of being bulletproof was supposed to do.
Brett: If I'd known your first role, you wouldn't have died :P But, you're a good player and you made a fine target, as we wanted to get Nem lynched. Second time around, it was you or Nem, and Nem we still thought we could get lynched. If you'd come back again, we probably would have shot you just to be consistent... But now maybe you know how I feel sometimes! *cough* WCS mafia *cough*
Pass: Even KNOWING what you are, I can't find your soft claim. Would you be willing to point out what you were talking about?
Wolf: I actually wasn't suggesting that so you'd hit a townie... I was suggesting it so we could get that day friggin over. If you hit a townie and got the game over faster, so much the better. It was actually a legit plan, that I would have eventually suggested as a townie too, since like I said, it's all in the hands of a townie, no scum input.
Nem: You seemed oddly quiet this game. You got a bum deal with that role, and weren't able to use it effectively. The night you jailed me, I had bussed Blade and Phil, so they could switch results, we gambled that you wouldn't target phil, and hoped we could mess up the information.
And now for Mod comments.
I had a few comments on the flavor-balancing of this game, though I think you did try to alleviate some of it. First, having 4 core characters, all with powers, when the mafia really can't afford try to force out a mislynch due to lack of numbers, hurt us. Then there was your night reports. THAT hurt to no end, though I don't think it was intentional. Telling the town EXACTLY what they did each night, makes fake claiming active power roles virtually impossible. Claiming "bus driver" as my role would have been difficult because everything that was done was told. Night flavour was a big part of the reason I never wanted to just "don't shoot", because your writing style was very explicit, so I couldn't count on you not giving away what we were doing, even by accident. None of the above is unfair, but it does have the added effect of giving an advantage to the town, similar to how deadlines can give an advantage to scum.
Please don't take what I wrote as complaints. If I had those, I would have made them evident when it started, either in the forums or via PM. This is just my critique of your flavour and writing style. I found your modding style to be fair. You were prompt, your deadlines, if any, didn't change gameplay. The replacement of Brett, while it was hurtful, can be understood because of the lack of player pool, and it kept the game going. While the type of punishments you meted out can be discussed into oblivion, they seemed to serve their purposes. We had no more discussion at night, no more editing, no more codes. I did enjoy the flavour posts, even if you don't know the difference between pray and prey :) Being from the mafia side, they were fun to read knowing the context.
For those of you who may have problems with his modding, I am curious what the problems are? I assume it's more than just the Cyber fiasco, so I'm curious what I'm missing.
Passarelli
06-22-2014, 03:53 AM
I could have flayed him into shape.
But my hands were tied.
The Bleeding hearts and artists,
Let him get away with murder.
-Pink Floyd, "The Trial"
Bleeding was the red herring I pointed out. "The Trial" should easily point you to Judge, especially since I was already very likely a double voter.
Later, when Phil was demanding claims I dropped a name claim. Loki.
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Speaking of, I can finally remove that from my profile.
acolyte_to_jippity
06-22-2014, 04:24 AM
Aco: Like What said, you missed out on getting yourself targeted. The only VT I think we even considered shooting was Sin, and that's because we could be 99% sure he wasn't going to be protected. I am curious what your reveal of being bulletproof was supposed to do.
end the game. it prevented another multi-day deadlock, and got people to actually move along.
CYBER
06-22-2014, 04:41 AM
HURRAY. The sheep has been properly lead to the slaughterhouse without much of a Behhhhhh from anyone.
What already conveyed most of what I wanted to say, and i don't feel like rehashing all the shit i've raged about privately while the game was active, so i'm just glad it's over now.
Now for those who want to move along of this shitfest and join a new game, the sign up thread is up. :)
Wolfenstinger
06-22-2014, 05:08 AM
Wolf: I actually wasn't suggesting that so you'd hit a townie... I was suggesting it so we could get that day friggin over. If you hit a townie and got the game over faster, so much the better. It was actually a legit plan, that I would have eventually suggested as a townie too, since like I said, it's all in the hands of a townie, no scum input.
Gotcha.
@mikey - I chose you at end mikey cause I stopped caring. Had you killed me instead of Passarelli at night, I already told What to shoot you if I died. You just started acting weird and icky. Originally I was gonna just random a number between you, blade, and aco but yeah...
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-22-2014, 05:46 AM
Gotcha.
@mikey - I chose you at end mikey cause I stopped caring. Had you killed me instead of Passarelli at night, I already told What to shoot you if I died. You just started acting weird and icky. Originally I was gonna just random a number between you, blade, and aco but yeah...
i know i did.. lmao. I avoided lynching you.. until i got drunk and said somethings i couldnt turn back from... thus my vote for you. However, regardless of who you choose.. the lynch on you won us the game and you shouldn't of voted for yourself. There was only two people you could have succesfully killed, Kionay and Blade. I assumed you would shot at blade knowing this fact, so i was prepared to kill kionay. With 5 left, you, me, blade, aco, and kionay. You were lynched, you kill blade because you KNOW you can land the kill, i kill kionay at night, the day starts with me and aco and what posts a win scene for mafia.
If you hadnt voted for yourself, we would most likley be in day phase still. The only way for town to of won, was to lynch either me or blade. If you lynched blade, id of pushed for aco even more and likley won. If you pushed for me.. well.. blade would have been made and your only appearnt route would be to lynch the only person left who claimed they werent town aligned.
BladeTwinSwords
06-22-2014, 04:50 PM
I'm more surprised that you all believed me. I mean come on, I claimed a pretty off-beat role.
I will commend Kion as the cop. You did exactly what you were supposed to.
BladeTwinSwords
06-22-2014, 05:14 PM
A note to everyone, NEVER claim Doctor or Faith Healer.
I do feel bad about Blackmage. I had honestly forgotten that he could not bus himself. To be honest, I was starting to believe my own fake claim. :lmao:
One more word of advice, NEVER take anyone's claim seriously until you know for a fact that they are telling the truth.
phil.™
06-22-2014, 05:38 PM
Lynch Phil they said, it'll be fine they said.
I told y'all to look at Mikey.
Being able to bus yourself is OP as fuck, so I'm glad that wasn't in the game.
Overall I think What did a fine job, aside from the fiasco of Day 1. Even if Stan said nothing we should've lynched someone else. Policy lynching is stupid.
kionay
06-22-2014, 09:05 PM
goddamnit mikey i fucking knew it!
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Nemesis
06-23-2014, 05:19 AM
Kionay - Didn't play too badly, just got unlucky with investigations. 8/10
Sin - Possibly worst play of the entire game, including Stan. Should have been lynched Day 1 but instead stuck around long enough to ruin town's game. 1/10
Passarelli - Not terrible for a first time player, was involved and contributed to dicussion. 6/10
Cyber - Cheated. N/A
Wolf - Actually played the game this time. And not too poorly, right up until deciding to lynch himself and give the game away. 6/10
Old Bastard - Rivaled Sin for worst play by claiming Doc for no reason other than thinking he was being clever. 0/10
Phil - Meh. 5/10
Stan - Who? 1/10
Acolyte to Jippy - A tie? Really? Reeeeaaaallly? A fucking tie? 2/10
Brett Favre - Died on the first day, can't really say anything. Came back to play someone who claimed doc like an idiot. N/A
Scribble - Had one job. Didn't do it. Played poorly. 2/10
Locust - Nothing of value. 4/10
CYBER
06-23-2014, 09:05 AM
for those who haven't done so, if you want to sign up for the next mafia game, make sure you you post in the sign up thread in the parent section.
I still need another 2-3.
phil.™
06-23-2014, 01:44 PM
I feel bad for brett, he died back to back before he could do anything lolol. That was too funny hahahahaha
DJ_MikeyRevile
06-24-2014, 08:07 PM
i know its late but.. i started watching the series about half way through this game (was busy finishing prison break). Se3 Ep 3... my fav episode so far.... Sammy "Deeeannn... I lost my shoe *sad face*"
Edit: BEST EPISODE EVER! lmao lmao!!!!!!!
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