Mafia Game: Monster Mash (Hosted by Sin and What)

[hoshiro-]

Ohhh Phil <3

[Passarelli]

I'm voting you because you fucking claimed, and the fact that you claimed "town pr" when the masons are already out pretty much makes you a werewolf day 2.

I still think Minjae is scummy, but the fact that you claimed without even trying to talk town down is scummy, especially given what you claimed. I think you are just trying to talk town down or at least try to fish out a power role before getting lynched. Since you already claimed that much, why not claim your role and see if you get CCed?

[phil.™]

No, I claimed because I was what, L-2? This day prolonged way too far where anyone would have jumped on a wagon. I claimed because some people need to learn to actually be patient and scum hunt versus going for policy lynch.

Your continuance to vote me after, you are either mafia or werewolf. Town would not vote another town. Even after a claim, a town pr claim at that.
I'm worthless now, but this still gives town a chance to win.

[Passarelli]

Or at least explain why going ahead and hard claiming would be a bad idea, considering you already claimed one of the two power roles.

[phil.™]

I just re-read. Hahaha, your last sentence. Hahahahahahha. You want me to hard claim as town pr.
Hahahahahahah. And give out more information than I already, or we already gave out.

[Passarelli]

It seems to me that you are just trying to make both power roles out themselves in order to counter you. I really want to know why you are refusing to even allow the chance of being counter claimed. If you can at least give a decent reason, I'll back off but just claiming "town pr" seems pretty scummy when there are only two power roles left, and neither has immunity to conversion.

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You already gave out to much information. I don't see what the harm of at least making you a confirmed townie would be instead of an ambiguous, "zomg, I'm a town pr. Don't lynch me unless both town PRs out themselves to counter me!"

[phil.™]

Because nobody will cc, and now that's 3 of 4 known pr. Why are you trying out town so hard?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Because nobody will cc, and now that's 3 of 4 known pr. Why are you trying out town so hard?

no one will cc it because the last 2 pr's dont know who the other ones are. So of course it is conveient to claim pr, knowing no one can cc you. it isnt a matter of whether or not they WANT to cc you.. they simply cant.

[Passarelli]

Because knowing your role doesn't matter. You painted a sign on your back sayin "Target me!"

Maybe I don't believe you because the odds of the wagons hitting 2 town power roles are pretty outrageously high, as well as your refusal to give an additional piece of information which would actually allow for town to either confirm you as town OR lynch you as scum.

That said, Mikey, now that this happened, what do you think we should do? Do you think it'd at least be worth people claiming their roles so we increase the odds today to 25% to hit a WW, 50% to hit scum?

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no one will cc it because the last 2 pr's dont know who the other ones are. So of course it is conveient to claim pr, knowing no one can cc you. it isnt a matter of whether or not they WANT to cc you.. they simply cant.

This.

Also, I don't think it is a great idea to claim roles now, but we are fast approaching the point where it'd actually be better for us to claim.

[phil.™]

Pass, what would like me to say?
Oh we have two confirmed masons that nobody cc. I'm L-2 and I'm just a townie?!?
My original point was to prove to hosh that policy lynch, "not so responsive players" is not always scummy.

We already lost. So go ahead, lynch me. I know for a fact 2/4 mafia/werewolf voted for me.

So if I do get lynched, everyone look at those who voted for me.

[Passarelli]

So now you are refusing to give a tiny piece of information that will either clear you or damn you? Yeah, that isn't scummy at all.

[phil.™]

So now you are refusing to give a tiny piece of information that will either clear you or damn you? Yeah, that isn't scummy at all.

No, and for obvious reasons. Keep mafia and wolves guessing. Not 100% know who to target.
You wanting me to 100% claim. Yeah, that isn't scummy at all.

I'm dead no matter what. Either lynch or night 1. Lynching me is a waste to town. And how you fail to see that and make me hard claim...

[Passarelli]

What would they have to guess about? They know you are a town sided power role so they will target you for conversion. Then tomorrow we will have 3 werewolves and still no clue who was the head WW. Seriously, you already outed as a town PR. Either retract that shit or claim the role so we can confirm you as town or watch you get countered then lynched as scum.

[phil.™]

Either retract that shit or claim the role so we can confirm you as town or watch you get countered then lynched as scum.

Yeah, i have a problem with all your statements. Is it just me?
So let me get this straight, you are 100% okay with town losing.

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I'm going to bed.

[Passarelli]

How would you claiming either of the 2 remaining roles put town at any further of a disadvantage then you already have by claiming a town sided power role?

[Assassin]

How would you claiming either of the 2 remaining roles put town at any further of a disadvantage then you already have by claiming a town sided power role?

Dude as is always with these games, the less information the Mafia have the better. Just vote him if you think he is mafia.

[Sin]

Vote Count 1.05

phil(5) - [L-2]
Passarelli(1)
Scribble(1)

Not Voting(2) - BladeTwinSwords, Scribble


Vote History:
Assassin - minjae, UNVOTE, Blackmage, UNVOTE, Trigger Unhappy, UNVOTE, phil
Blackmage - minjae, UNVOTE, DJ_MikeyRevile, UNVOTE
BladeTwinSwords -
Cyber - brett friggin favre, UNVOTE, Scribble
DJ_MikeyRevile - minjae, UNVOTE, phil, UNVOTE
hoshiro - minjae, UNVOTE, phil
minjae - Blackmage, UNVOTE, Passarelli, UNVOTE
brett friggin favre - phil
Passarelli - minjae, UNVOTE, DJ_MikeyRevile, UNVOTE, minjae, UNVOTE, phil
Phil - DJ_MikeyRevile, UNVOTE, hoshiro-, UNVOTE, Passarelli
Scribble -
Trigger Unhappy - DJ_MikeyRevile, UNVOTE, phil, UNVOTE, phil

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.



Mod notes:
None for now.

[Assassin]

Well I think scribs and blade are fos for one of the mafia factions (probably WW)

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Blade, I see you lurking. You can only ignore this thread for so long.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Ok being that most of you failed the first time, im going to try again. I want everyone to follow these steps.
0. Clear your head of any suspicoin you hold towards anyone atm. Follow these steps objectively.
1. Close your eyes.
2. If you are closing your eyes, please quit everything. Read these steps then complete them.
3. With your eyes closed imagine a door, of any color.
On this door is a plauge that reads "monster mash."
4. Open this door.
Within this door you see a sign at the begining of a hallway. This sign reads "mikey is pgo, assassin is pgo, you are "blank". This leaves 9 other people suspect."
5. Begin traversing the hallway.
As you traverse said hallway, you notice every single post being held by a shadowy figure. You quickly realize that each shadowy figure is holding up a post they are the author too.
6. Open eyes.
7. Post your fos.

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Plaque* vig* suspicion*
Fuck my phone, I was trying to be deep.

[hoshiro-]

Ok being that most of you failed the first time, im going to try again. I want everyone to follow these steps.
0. Clear your head of any suspicoin you hold towards anyone atm. Follow these steps objectively.
1. Close your eyes.
2. If you are closing your eyes, please quit everything. Read these steps then complete them.
3. With your eyes closed imagine a door, of any color.
On this door is a plauge that reads "monster mash."
4. Open this door.
Within this door you see a sign at the begining of a hallway. This sign reads "mikey is pgo, assassin is pgo, you are "blank". This leaves 9 other people suspect."
5. Begin traversing the hallway.
As you traverse said hallway, you notice every single post being held by a shadowy figure. You quickly realize that each shadowy figure is holding up a post they are the author too.
6. Open eyes.
7. Post your fos.

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Plaque* vig* suspicion*
Fuck my phone, I was trying to be deep.

How can I read the rest of these with my eyes closed?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

How can I read the rest of these with my eyes closed?

please address step number 2, where sarcasm is used to make fun of anyone who replies with something similar to what you just said.

[hoshiro-]

Dammit mikey you clever little thing.

[Passarelli]

As of now, the person I trust the least is Phil because of his shitty claim. If he were to claim which power role he is and isn't countered he would be full cleared. At this point--because the masons are outed--the only reason to not full claim is to avoid being counter claimed.

Minjae with his quick early VT claim is also scummy.

Everyone else is suspect besides Mikey and Assassin.

[CYBER]

When was the last time and last post blade even interacted here?

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I'm on my phone btw that's why I'm asking bcos i cant easily go through those threads.

Also, my vote stands on scribble, or Brett.
That's what I see behind mikeys last mini game door.

[BladeTwinSwords]

When was the last time and last post blade even interacted here?

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I'm on my phone btw that's why I'm asking bcos i cant easily go through those threads.

Also, my vote stands on scribble, or Brett.
That's what I see behind mikeys last mini game door.

A couple of pages ago. Honestly, I have nothing to contribute. Everything has been said that I can possibly say.

[Assassin]

sigh....zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[SCRIBBLE]

Also, my vote stands on scribble,

Innovative strategy, how is it working out for you?

[Passarelli]

I still don't understand why Phil refuses to clear himself instead of his scummy ambiguous claim which to me only looks to out the remaining town power roles. I doubt he is the head WW, but I could see the minion doing such a play.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Vote pass

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also, all im going to say is.... blackmage, you have been awfully quiet since assassins slip. You were very vocal until that point.

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Are you embarrassed about being wrong?
Are you a town PR, backing off to mitagate the damage you caused?
Are you mafia faction attempting to hide because you now have your primary roleblock target?

[Passarelli]

I find this hilarious. Mikey, you can't figure out why I'm suspicious of his Claim? Of course if he were the lesser werewolf he would claim town sided Power role but without saying which he was to avoid being countered. I just find that scummy as fuck, but I guess that is just me.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I find this hilarious. Mikey, you can't figure out why I'm suspicious of his Claim? Of course if he were the lesser werewolf he would claim town sided Power role but without saying which he was to avoid being countered. I just find that scummy as fuck, but I guess that is just me.

Or perhaps if YOU were the lesser werewolf, you would claim "town side pr."
What ifs are not a reason to lynch someone.
I dont care how YOU would play a role.

Phil is 1 of threee things.
1. an anti town but not the anti town we are looking for.
2. a vannila tonie, making a bad play.
3. a town pr who just lost us the game.

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and to be even more clear.

You are determined to lynch phil. Why phil and why now? Perhaps it is because there is a wagon. Further evidence substantiates my hypothesis. You were in fact the last person to vote for phil. Thus putting him at L-2.

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To be entierly honest... i dont expect people to actually read the thread. If they do, who we vote is pretty clear.

[Blackmage]

The reason I haven't said anything is twofold. First, given certain parties decided to make the town's job much more dificult, in contrast to a plan I laid out, obviously my input wasn't required. Second, I was waiting to see how long it would take for ANYONE to mention I hadn't said a single word. Only took about 9 and a half days. I'll let you live in your delusional world and admit to anything you care to say if it so helps your ego. Sadly, you just can't seem to get it into your thick skull that sometimes dead horses should lie unbeaten, and that you can't actually change history.

If you want me to say something, here's you go. Phil made a claim, but has not fully claimed. Pass keeps suggesting he should cement the claim so "someone could CC". The only problem there is, unless we think Phil is the head WW, that's probably the worst move we have left to us. Related to that, clearing Phil because of no CC would be just as bad.

There are 5 roles Phil could be. If he's the head WW, he's doing a huge gamble. I strongly doubt he's the head WW, but if we think he is, we should just lynch him and win. This is the only case we want to push for a CC. If he's the minor WW, with what Pass is suggesting is, either he's cleared because the real PR doesn't CC, or else he IS CC'd, and we go to the CC case. If he's the minor vamp, while, yes, he's trying to clear himself, what he's also doing is helping the town. At night, if the WWs convert him, both of our PRs are still around, and they didn't mess with the masons. If he's the head Vamp, he does the above, only moreso, because it means he won't be converted. As a vamp, if he's CC'd, we CAN'T hit a werewolf, AND we out a PR to the WWs. If he's actually a PR, he can still be CC'd by a WW, and we may have to look at a CC case anyway.

If he DOES get CC'd, we have to decide if who is telling the truth. A failure means they have an extra kill AND an extra night. Success means kill something and STILL lose a PR.

Either we want to lynch him, or not. As I see it, we DON'T want a CC. Pass, maybe I'm missing something, but why are you pushing for him to possibly be CC'd?

Side note, Mikey, Ass, you might want to decide what to do with the faith healer. If you ARE planning on shooting someone, you want to find a way to NOT have the healer protect that person.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

The reason I haven't said anything is twofold. First, given certain parties decided to make the town's job much more dificult, in contrast to a plan I laid out, obviously my input wasn't required. Second, I was waiting to see how long it would take for ANYONE to mention I hadn't said a single word. Only took about 9 and a half days. I'll let you live in your delusional world and admit to anything you care to say if it so helps your ego. Sadly, you just can't seem to get it into your thick skull that sometimes dead horses should lie unbeaten, and that you can't actually change history.

If you want me to say something, here's you go. Phil made a claim, but has not fully claimed. Pass keeps suggesting he should cement the claim so "someone could CC". The only problem there is, unless we think Phil is the head WW, that's probably the worst move we have left to us. Related to that, clearing Phil because of no CC would be just as bad.

There are 5 roles Phil could be. If he's the head WW, he's doing a huge gamble. I strongly doubt he's the head WW, but if we think he is, we should just lynch him and win. This is the only case we want to push for a CC. If he's the minor WW, with what Pass is suggesting is, either he's cleared because the real PR doesn't CC, or else he IS CC'd, and we go to the CC case. If he's the minor vamp, while, yes, he's trying to clear himself, what he's also doing is helping the town. At night, if the WWs convert him, both of our PRs are still around, and they didn't mess with the masons. If he's the head Vamp, he does the above, only moreso, because it means he won't be converted. As a vamp, if he's CC'd, we CAN'T hit a werewolf, AND we out a PR to the WWs. If he's actually a PR, he can still be CC'd by a WW, and we may have to look at a CC case anyway.

If he DOES get CC'd, we have to decide if who is telling the truth. A failure means they have an extra kill AND an extra night. Success means kill something and STILL lose a PR.

Either we want to lynch him, or not. As I see it, we DON'T want a CC. Pass, maybe I'm missing something, but why are you pushing for him to possibly be CC'd?

Side note, Mikey, Ass, you might want to decide what to do with the faith healer. If you ARE planning on shooting someone, you want to find a way to NOT have the healer protect that person.

problem is, most of your post is irrelevant. Worrying about mafia or sufficing for mafia is bad. If and when all werewolfs are dead, its an auto win for town. Provided at least 3 town power roles are alive.
secondly, i noted you being afk, i noted your inaction to my phil vote, im aware. My observation of you hasnt changed since your attack on me. I still believe you to be mafia, however, mafia lynches are not the towns goal.
I want to be as clear as i can, YOU provoked me. YOU attacked me. Over something as trivial as an opinion you misunderstood. It is over kid, stop digging up graves.

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problem is, most of your post is irrelevant. Worrying about mafia or sufficing for mafia is bad. If and when all werewolfs are dead, its an auto win for town. Provided at least 3 town power roles are alive.
secondly, i noted you being afk, i noted your inaction to my phil vote, im aware. My observation of you hasnt changed since your attack on me. I still believe you to be mafia, however, mafia lynches are not the towns goal.
I want to be as clear as i can, YOU provoked me. YOU attacked me. Over something as trivial as an opinion you misunderstood. It is over kid, stop digging up graves.

yo better explain how its an auto win.

If all werewolfs are dead (the result of lynching the alpha) that means 2 mafia remain. In the event the alpha is lynched, it gives all remaining power roles the ability to hard claim safely. Doing to limits the poll to lynch or vig kill from. After that is accomplished, town can either lynch the remainder and/or let vig kill. Process of elimination.

Secondly and probually the biggest... i feel like a majority of you who are fighting, including blackmage, are neglecting the fact that mafia cant be caught by the seer. As the seer only detects werewolf's.

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pre intowxicated, i apologize for any broken english.

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furthermore @ seer. Ignore the simple fact that your investigative results could end up being the person who get turned. The goal for town is to find and lynch the alpha. If you get a result saying non werewolf and they end up getting turned, or a thought crosses your mind about whether or not they were turned, ignore it and use process of elimination. The people who are potential targets for turns are not the alpha, there for, do not worry about them.

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also, blackmage. I will say it now and personally tell assassin, not to kill tonight.

[Blackmage]

problem is, most of your post is irrelevant.

Let's see, my post starts explaining why I haven't posted. Given you asked for that, that can't be irrelevant . Then I explain why I disagree with Pass wanting to go for a CC and asking where he differs from me. That might be irrelevant if we're supposed to blindly follow you, I guess. Then the final thing you responded to in agreement. So that obviously wasn't irrelevant either.

So, the only way that post is irrelevant, much less "mostly irrelevant", is if first, we assume the game isn't relevant, since that is all connected to the game. Second, only if we're supposed to blindly follow your lead. We're off to a great start here, aren't we.


Worrying about mafia or sufficing for mafia is bad. If and when all werewolfs are dead, its an auto win for town. Provided at least 3 town power roles are alive.

Agreed.


secondly, i noted you being afk, i noted your inaction to my phil vote, im aware.

You noted I wouldn't follow someone who totally disagrees with me, ruins the town's best chance and calls me scum? Yay, I suppose? I trust you enough to believe the claim. As a leader, I find you lacking, since you actually have less information than everyone else. Then, we consider the fact that you "deduced" I am a Vampire from pointless banter. Banter, that may I point out, you choose not to end when you knew it might lead to more people questioning you. You, nor Ass, are leaders I will follow.


My observation of you hasnt changed since your attack on me. I still believe you to be mafia, however, mafia lynches are not the towns goal.

Case and point.


I want to be as clear as i can, YOU provoked me. YOU attacked me.

Be as "clear" as you want to. This is not, and never was true. Like I said, you can't actually change history.


It is over kid, stop digging up graves.


Are you embarrassed about being wrong?

I didn't dig it up, you did. I'm just childish enough to respond. Also, calling me kid, that's amusing. How much older than me are you exactly?


yo better explain how its an auto win.

If all werewolfs are dead (the result of lynching the alpha) that means 2 mafia remain. In the event the alpha is lynched, it gives all remaining power roles the ability to hard claim safely. Doing to limits the poll to lynch or vig kill from. After that is accomplished, town can either lynch the remainder and/or let vig kill. Process of elimination.

Yes, once we've killed the alpha, as long as we have enough PRs still alive, we've won. The problem is, and always has been, finding the alpha in time.


Secondly and probually the biggest... i feel like a majority of you who are fighting, including blackmage, are neglecting the fact that mafia cant be caught by the seer. As the seer only detects werewolf's.

Let us look back. Back to the first post. The "obvious post".


Don't think of the Vamps as a second mafia group. Think of them as 3rd party masons. One of them is a VT, one of them is RB. We also can't find them with our cop.

Emphasis mine. It's amazing what was "redundant and filler" needs to be once again uttered. By the one who insulted it first, no less. He also insinuates the one who first stated it doesn't know it. This impressive piece of game awareness is just one more reason I won't follow.


furthermore @ seer. Ignore the simple fact that your investigative results could end up being the person who get turned. The goal for town is to find and lynch the alpha. If you get a result saying non werewolf and they end up getting turned, or a thought crosses your mind about whether or not they were turned, ignore it and use process of elimination. The people who are potential targets for turns are not the alpha, there for, do not worry about them.

Oh look, something else I said, here. (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12633-Mafia-Game-Monster-Mash-(Hosted-by-Sin-and-What)?p=187624#post187624)


Our Seer gets weaker each night. There is only 1 WW worth finding. Every day past the first, with a possible additional werewolf, we get one further away from finding the head. Plus, as soon as he outs himself to kill a WW, he's dead, or most likely converted by the head.

To anyone wondering, yes, I'm responding to his bait. Feel free to ignore most of the interactions I have with Mikey from here on. I'll make any posts that will be relevant to the game obvious.

[Passarelli]

If you want me to say something, here's you go. Phil made a claim, but has not fully claimed. Pass keeps suggesting he should cement the claim so "someone could CC". The only problem there is, unless we think Phil is the head WW, that's probably the worst move we have left to us. Related to that, clearing Phil because of no CC would be just as bad.

There are 5 roles Phil could be. If he's the head WW, he's doing a huge gamble. I strongly doubt he's the head WW, but if we think he is, we should just lynch him and win. This is the only case we want to push for a CC. If he's the minor WW, with what Pass is suggesting is, either he's cleared because the real PR doesn't CC, or else he IS CC'd, and we go to the CC case. If he's the minor vamp, while, yes, he's trying to clear himself, what he's also doing is helping the town. At night, if the WWs convert him, both of our PRs are still around, and they didn't mess with the masons. If he's the head Vamp, he does the above, only moreso, because it means he won't be converted. As a vamp, if he's CC'd, we CAN'T hit a werewolf, AND we out a PR to the WWs. If he's actually a PR, he can still be CC'd by a WW, and we may have to look at a CC case anyway.

If he DOES get CC'd, we have to decide if who is telling the truth. A failure means they have an extra kill AND an extra night. Success means kill something and STILL lose a PR.

Either we want to lynch him, or not. As I see it, we DON'T want a CC. Pass, maybe I'm missing something, but why are you pushing for him to possibly be CC'd?


Reading the rest but then I have to head out. Thank you for actually showing some reasoning why Phil hard claiming could be a bad idea. I had only asked around 5 times.

Unvote

Mikey, you still don't see why I don't trust Phil's post? A lot of it has to do with 2/3 wagons day 1 hitting power roles. I also encourage you to please reread my recent posts--I thought I laid out the scenario fairly well.

[Assassin]

also, blackmage. I will say it now and personally tell assassin, not to kill tonight.

You take all the fun out of it...sigh fine..no capping someone.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Reading the rest but then I have to head out. Thank you for actually showing some reasoning why Phil hard claiming could be a bad idea. I had only asked around 5 times.

Unvote

Mikey, you still don't see why I don't trust Phil's post? A lot of it has to do with 2/3 wagons day 1 hitting power roles. I also encourage you to please reread my recent posts--I thought I laid out the scenario fairly well.


Why unvote? I agree that the chances we hit 2 power roles is unlikely. Phil claiming town power so early is really scummy and you know he isnt going to hard claim because then he would get cc'd

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Reading the rest but then I have to head out. Thank you for actually showing some reasoning why Phil hard claiming could be a bad idea. I had only asked around 5 times.

Unvote

Mikey, you still don't see why I don't trust Phil's post? A lot of it has to do with 2/3 wagons day 1 hitting power roles. I also encourage you to please reread my recent posts--I thought I laid out the scenario fairly well.

i never said i did not understand and if you look back, i had voted for him long before the rest of you. I do not disagree with your assessment either.
unvote

[minjae]

Vote Pass

beCAUSE

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You wanted Phil to CC SO BAD, and just because someone says that it's not a good idea, you change your mind 180 just like that huh?
I think you were being really stubborn to get him to CC, but after realizing how bad it looks, you changed your mind.

We must free the WW of their curse before they spread it.








LOL :lmao:

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You wanted Phil to CLAIM*

Damnit..

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I think it may be a full moon soon....

[phil.™]

I think it may be a full moon soon....

Wtf? Was that a soft claim?

[minjae]

Aaahhh-WooOOoOooOooOoo

[What]

The day was growing short and storm clouds were gathering. The villagers knew that they must act soon.....


Tuesday, September 16th, 8:00 am, Eastern, is the deadline for Day 1

[Passarelli]

Vote Pass

beCAUSE

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You wanted Phil to CC SO BAD, and just because someone says that it's not a good idea, you change your mind 180 just like that huh?
I think you were being really stubborn to get him to CC, but after realizing how bad it looks, you changed your mind.

We must free the WW of their curse before they spread it.








LOL :lmao:

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You wanted Phil to CLAIM*

Damnit..

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I think it may be a full moon soon....

Minjae, I had asked several times for him to either hard claim so that he could either be CCed or to at least explain why it was a bad idea for him to do so. Blackmage was the first one to make a decent response. Don't get me wrong, I still think Phil is scummy as shit right now but I'm going to go ahead and defer to people with more experience than me. The main point I agree with is while Phil is likely a werewolf (or will be tomorrow), he isn't the head werewolf. We need to cut off the head before worrying about the minions.

That said, Phil is the scummiest among us right now. The odds of hitting 2/4 town sided power roles with 3 total wagons out of 12 people are pretty low. His claim at L-2 is scummy and the claim itself was very scummy. No one else has even approached his level of scumminess--not even you which is pretty much amazing.

[phil.™]

Minjae, I had asked several times for him to either hard claim so that he could either be CCed or to at least explain why it was a bad idea for him to do so. Blackmage was the first one to make a decent response. Don't get me wrong, I still think Phil is scummy as shit right now but I'm going to go ahead and defer to people with more experience than me. The main point I agree with is while Phil is likely a werewolf (or will be tomorrow), he isn't the head werewolf. We need to cut off the head before worrying about the minions.

That said, Phil is the scummiest among us right now. The odds of hitting 2/4 town sided power roles with 3 total wagons out of 12 people are pretty low. His claim at L-2 is scummy and the claim itself was very scummy. No one else has even approached his level of scumminess--not even you which is pretty much amazing.

Are you this blind sided? That you fail to see what I was trying to hint why I should NOT hard claim? BM went into the details. I will not hard claim, because nobody will fucking CC that shit. And anyone who does CC that shit is either mafia or WW. If i hard claim and someone does CC, I will most likely get lynched; wasting a day lynch at that, and it's open game for mafia and WW at night.
"Phil, why did you even claim town pr" Town already lost, and hosh is oblivious and only pointing out those who are inactive.

Minus min's reallyyyy odd play style (which can imply he's VT, because if mafia or WW, he would not being saying all this stuff so freely), pass has continued to push on min, and continued. When i was L-2 and really didn't give a flying fuck, wanted to prove a point to hosh, and soft claimed, pass wants to lynch a town pr. Right. I'm scummy..

Hosh, what the fuck have you brough to the table? Other than those who are inactive. Your last post to mikey's "close your eyes and meditate" was even a joke post.
If you want a policy lynch, you're on my list for posting nonsense crap.

[Trigger Unhappy]

I would board the Hosh train...

[Passarelli]

What town PR? I don't see a town PR. The problem here is that I do not believe you because if you were a the lesser werewolf that would be a good play whereas if you were a town PR you just painted a huge target on your back 'just to prove a point' because 'town already lost'. We still had a chance before you made that claim.

[CYBER]

Pass and Phil. U 2 should stop arguing with eachother as you 2 are the flip side of each other's coin from what I understand..

Ppl I trust to be town TODAY:
mikey, assassin, Phil and pass (yes, both u dimwitts).

I know where I stand. The rest can go straight to hell.

In fact, if ppl are. Smart enough, they should vote for anyone NOT in this list above, he'll even me, I don't mind being lynched, and u guys need to remember the following:
Until this day and only this day, the above 4 ppl are town in my opinion. One of them will not be tomorrow most likely tho, probably between Phil and pass, since ass and mikey are Mason and can out the other if someone stops communicating after being converted.



.
I will go for a vote on Brett, scribble, blackmage, or mine mostly now (in that order), followed by a no Lynch and myself b3cause this game is reducing my brain cells count by the minute.

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Minj *, not "mine".. Fucking autocorrect

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

i had a dream.

In this dream, cyber was a werewolf.

That is all.

[CYBER]

i had a dream.

In this dream, cyber was a werewolf.

That is all.
What? U wanna screw me over here as well like the other game for ur own benefit and grudge holding?
Please, u keep throwing ur shit around to see what sticks, and so far, nthn is.

That being said, keep doing that. I'm telling u, I personally don't care what side I end up on. But for now, this is getting boring and I'm providing some closure to the Phil and pass endless conflict which will reveal too much... More than we have already...

So yeah.
I mean in all honesty at this rate, i'd much rather be a werewolf or some shit than having to lose with this overly committed town to reveal everything.... But wtvr. Enjoy my help while it lasts mikey.

[SCRIBBLE]

Vote for me so we can prove how smart cyber is.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Vote for me so we can prove how smart cyber is.

lololololol

[minjae]

Pass and Phil. U 2 should stop arguing with eachother as you 2 are the flip side of each other's coin from what I understand..

Ppl I trust to be town TODAY:
mikey, assassin, Phil and pass (yes, both u dimwitts).

I know where I stand. The rest can go straight to hell.

In fact, if ppl are. Smart enough, they should vote for anyone NOT in this list above, he'll even me, I don't mind being lynched, and u guys need to remember the following:
Until this day and only this day, the above 4 ppl are town in my opinion. One of them will not be tomorrow most likely tho, probably between Phil and pass, since ass and mikey are Mason and can out the other if someone stops communicating after being converted.



.
I will go for a vote on Brett, scribble, blackmage, or mine mostly now (in that order), followed by a no Lynch and myself b3cause this game is reducing my brain cells count by the minute.

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Minj *, not "mine".. Fucking autocorrect


Hm..Cyber, you do realize you said that we should NOT vote for any people on that list, but then you go to say it is YOUR opinion.
So what you're saying is that you're opinion is 100% correct.

If you are saying that one of them are in fact scum/mafia, and one of them turns out to be scum/mafia then that makes you suspicious..
And then vice versa for the ones you suspect. Me being included, apparently.

[Passarelli]

This shit is getting absurd. I'll vote for just about anyone on that list, but especially Minjae and Phil.

[Trigger Unhappy]

I dont even remember who I've voted for anymore... I dont want a random kill tomorrow and I don't want a no lynch because mafia basically wins.. so fuck it.. unvote vote minjae

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gut feeling here.. plus the added soft claim before.. I think he got cocky.

[Sin]

Vote Count 1.06

phil(3) - [L-4]
minjae(1)
Passarelli(2)
Scribble(1)

Not Voting(2) - BladeTwinSwords, Scribble


Vote History:
Assassin - minjae, UNVOTE, Blackmage, UNVOTE, Trigger Unhappy, UNVOTE, phil
Blackmage - minjae, UNVOTE, DJ_MikeyRevile, UNVOTE
BladeTwinSwords -
Cyber - brett friggin favre, UNVOTE, Scribble
DJ_MikeyRevile - minjae, UNVOTE, phil, UNVOTE, Passarelli, UNVOTE
hoshiro - minjae, UNVOTE, phil
minjae - Blackmage, UNVOTE, Passarelli, UNVOTE, Passarelli
brett friggin favre - phil
Passarelli - minjae, UNVOTE, DJ_MikeyRevile, UNVOTE, minjae, UNVOTE, phil, UNVOTE
Phil - DJ_MikeyRevile, UNVOTE, hoshiro-, UNVOTE, Passarelli
Scribble -
Trigger Unhappy - DJ_MikeyRevile, UNVOTE, phil, UNVOTE, phil, UNVOTE, minjae

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.



Mod notes:
DEADLINE IS AT 8:00AM EST Tomorrow! YOU HAVE 12.5 HOURS LEFT!!

[CYBER]

Minj.
If someone I SUSPECT that they are. Mafia turn out to be town? I don't give a fuck, because this is a speculation at that point, see G as there are some other vanilla out there.
I know why I excluded those 4, personal reasons and analysis of the shit that happened.

Imho, everyone not on THAT 4ppl list is either scum (WW, vamp) or VT.

And as I said, it's my own POV that I know myself to not be on that 4 ppl list and yet be a town (do the math), so that's why I'm asking everyone to take a pick from that open list of non-most-likely-townies (imho) and just agree on it, EVER ME, because at this rate, the last thing we want to do is to hit an important role.

Voting a no Lynch is not a good idea because tomorrow we will have a converted player and all the data we have from the no Lynch (nothing) will not be improved tomorrow since we won't tell who got swapped.

So the best shit we can do now is get a Lynch on someone TODAY while we know that no townie got swapped to WW yet, so that we can see who was on whose side today and if that changes down the road...

[Assassin]

Minj.
If someone I SUSPECT that they are. Mafia turn out to be town? I don't give a fuck, because this is a speculation at that point, see G as there are some other vanilla out there.
I know why I excluded those 4, personal reasons and analysis of the shit that happened.

Imho, everyone not on THAT 4ppl list is either scum (WW, vamp) or VT.

And as I said, it's my own POV that I know myself to not be on that 4 ppl list and yet be a town (do the math), so that's why I'm asking everyone to take a pick from that open list of non-most-likely-townies (imho) and just agree on it, EVER ME, because at this rate, the last thing we want to do is to hit an important role.

Voting a no Lynch is not a good idea because tomorrow we will have a converted player and all the data we have from the no Lynch (nothing) will not be improved tomorrow since we won't tell who got swapped.

So the best shit we can do now is get a Lynch on someone TODAY while we know that no townie got swapped to WW yet, so that we can see who was on whose side today and if that changes down the road...

That actually makes sense.

[BladeTwinSwords]

No Lynching With A Cult Style Role is the WORST decision. Let's pick a person who we think is the most scummy and work with that.

[Passarelli]

I was hoping the confirmed town roles would be leading. Since they aren't and I need sleep--

Vote Blade

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I was hoping the confirmed town roles would be leading. Since they aren't and I need sleep--

Vote Blade

im pretty sure blade isnt anti town. Do you have a reason beyond... "needing sleep"?
Blackmage is being a fucking infant about being wrong and has hidden himself after. He wont follow me, so, pick between these three people to vote.

Minaje, Blackmage, Hosh.

Im in favor or my original minjae vote.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I think Pass just wanted to vote for me.

Sorry I'm not providing much input. I tend to not take action until Day 2 unless it's a Night start. I need conviction and evidence first.

[Blackmage]

Both times I was wrong, I admitted it. Here (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12633-Mafia-Game-Monster-Mash-(Hosted-by-Sin-and-What)?p=187339#post187339) and here. (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12633-Mafia-Game-Monster-Mash-(Hosted-by-Sin-and-What)?p=187392#post187392) What is it you want?

Also, good to know you're still lying!


It is over kid, stop digging up graves.

I wonder why I won't follow you?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Both times I was wrong, I admitted it. Here (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12633-Mafia-Game-Monster-Mash-(Hosted-by-Sin-and-What)?p=187339#post187339) and here. (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12633-Mafia-Game-Monster-Mash-(Hosted-by-Sin-and-What)?p=187392#post187392) What is it you want?

Also, good to know you're still lying!



I wonder why I won't follow you?

i was pointing out an observation i made about how you were very vocal and engaged in the game until you totally failed. Then you went cold for literally days. The only time you post now is when your name is brought up and it requires some level of defense.
in the grand scheme of things, this radical change in behavior is legitimately notable within the game and would like for players to acknowledge it.

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furhtermore, we need to make a lynch. It would be easier if assassin didnt ballsm deep town into failure with the claim. I can handle a tough conversation.

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so blackmage, if you are as clean as can be, who do you think town should vote? Who do you think is the scummiest player here?

[Assassin]

i was pointing out an observation i made about how you were very vocal and engaged in the game until you totally failed. Then you went cold for literally days. The only time you post now is when your name is brought up and it requires some level of defense.
in the grand scheme of things, this radical change in behavior is legitimately notable within the game and would like for players to acknowledge it.

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furhtermore, we need to make a lynch. It would be easier if assassin didnt ballsm deep town into failure with the claim. I can handle a tough conversation.

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so blackmage, if you are as clean as can be, who do you think town should vote? Who do you think is the scummiest player here?

So you'd rather me let them lynch you? Noted.

[Sin]

Time is up!! Cease discussion!!

The day has come to an end, and the results of the villager's work will soon become clear.

[Assassin]

Time is up!! Cease discussion!!

The day has come to an end, and the results of the villager's work will soon become clear.

Hurry up hoe.

[What]

The day had dragged on, seemingly forever. Now, the night had finally begun to close in….

As the sun began to set, the villagers knew they must take action, but either through ignorance or trickery, they were not able to agree. Three men however, had enough of this bickering, and decided to act on their own.

“Let’s get him!”


“He’s the spawn of the Devil!”

“Rabble Rabble Rabble!”

They came to the door of his house and knocked it in, shocked by what they saw. Before them stood a monster, ready to feast upon his latest victim . Without further discussion they struck, dragging him into the streets, severing his head, and burning his remains. With the deed done, the villagers turned in for the night, grateful for how lucky they were.


Phil- Percival Renfield (Vampire Familiar) has been lynched.


Night 1 Begins now, send in your actions within 72 hours

[Assassin]

zzzz hurry up ppl zzzzzz

[phil.™]

But, but, I'm town.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Zzz shit up Percy zzzz

[hoshiro-]

I don't understand how this thread is so dead when the other one is so busy

[SCRIBBLE]

It is night, that's why.

[hoshiro-]

It's been night for 24 hours now

[What]

The moon shone brightly over the village. While many were sleeping, others were busy, with a variety of motives at play.

“Events unfolded favorably for us today, tonight I will see to it personally that our family grows.”


“Yes, ma’lord…”

Asleep in his house, someone was woken with a start as creature leapt through his window.

“NOOOOO!!! Stay away from me you vile creature!”


“Relax, it will all be over soon, and you’ll be better than ever….”

The creature fell upon the man, sinking his teeth into his flesh, careful not to go too deep.


“Now rise, and clap for me!”


----------------------------------------------------

Elsewhere in town, someone with the best interest of the others in mind, decided to check in on a friend, confident with the added support. Another, decided to work on an enemy, just to make sure.


Day 2 begins now.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I can only imagine what happened...

[brett friggin favre]

well shit, i was hoping SOMEONE would have died...these games gotta end sometime lol

[Passarelli]

What, stop listening to The Guess Who.

[Blackmage]

But, he's gon' rate your record high!

Brett: It's one problem with outting the Vig. Unless the WW goes for one of the two of them, the head is going out most of the time, and getting the 100% convert. With the Vig not going out, it means no one was going to die, unless the WW risked going for the clears.

[brett friggin favre]

But, he's gon' rate your record high!

Brett: It's one problem with outting the Vig. Unless the WW goes for one of the two of them, the head is going out most of the time, and getting the 100% convert. With the Vig not going out, it means no one was going to die, unless the WW risked going for the clears.

wasn't a serious statement but thanks for the info, Encyclopedia Brown

[Trigger Unhappy]

So, one of the remaining power roles hit an "enemy"

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Mikey, you and ass still talking?

[Assassin]

So, one of the remaining power roles hit an "enemy"

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Mikey, you and ass still talking?

Tbh we haven't talked at all yet, not that we have needed too though either. I'd bet the WW played it safe and didn't go after either of us because he didn't know which one of us was the pgo

[Trigger Unhappy]

True but we probably want to have some confirmation that our assumption is correct.

[Assassin]

need another night phase

[Passarelli]

I have no clue, but it is going to get exponentially harder to win this. To get things started I guess, basing on his lack of conviction even when day 1 was going to end with a random outcome:

Vote Scribble

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I have no clue, but it is going to get exponentially harder to win this. To get things started I guess, basing on his lack of conviction even when day 1 was going to end with a random outcome:

Vote Scribble

I dont think that is a valid excuse to vote someone. It could also be that the absence is due to being a VT. We also dont have alot of information to go off of as night phase was apparently a bust.

The only solid information gained from the night scene is that the alpha turned someone into a werewolf. This means we have 4 baddies in play again.
We also know that at least one town PR, likley the faith healer due to the way what wrote it.. protected a townie. The second action, is very unclear. If we presume is was the seer, then the seer either got a werewolf result or they got a non werewolf result on the last mafia member. Otherwise, it could pertain to the last mafia member role blocking a werewolf.

I dont think scribbles is werewolf.

[Passarelli]

Mikey, I read the flavor text backwards from you. To me it looks like the faith healer went to an enemy ("worked on") and the seer visited a townie. I'm pretty sure that I have that much right.

It is just that at this point, Scribbles to me is one of the most scummy--not do to inactivity; on the contrary, he was active but did not commit to any action even when the pressure was on and no lynching would have been better than nothing. Since noone else seems willing to either FoS people let alone vote, I figured I would get the ball moving.

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What alternative would you suggest? No lynching? Letting the mods pick again and hoping we get lucky?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Mikey, I read the flavor text backwards from you. To me it looks like the faith healer went to an enemy ("worked on") and the seer visited a townie. I'm pretty sure that I have that much right.

It is just that at this point, Scribbles to me is one of the most scummy--not do to inactivity; on the contrary, he was active but did not commit to any action even when the pressure was on and no lynching would have been better than nothing. Since noone else seems willing to either FoS people let alone vote, I figured I would get the ball moving.

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What alternative would you suggest? No lynching? Letting the mods pick again and hoping we get lucky?

No lynching day one in this set up would be bad. No lynch should only be used on mylo and only when we are in a day talk position like yesterday. (0 information on the table)

You say that is your reason for voting scribbs yet, just about everyone was the way you describe scribbs. I also dont think the lynch was RNG as it was phil who died and phil who had the most votes at the time.
Also, the last part of the flavor, as i described is very unclear which is why i choose to dismiss it. It isnt relevant or concrete and speculating over it wont help.

I still have tingles from minjae.

[Passarelli]

Vote Count 1.06

phil(3) - [L-4]
minjae(1)
Passarelli(2)
Scribble(1)

Not Voting(2) - BladeTwinSwords, Scribble


Vote History:
Assassin - minjae, UNVOTE, Blackmage, UNVOTE, Trigger Unhappy, UNVOTE, phil
Blackmage - minjae, UNVOTE, DJ_MikeyRevile, UNVOTE
BladeTwinSwords -
Cyber - brett friggin favre, UNVOTE, Scribble
DJ_MikeyRevile - minjae, UNVOTE, phil, UNVOTE, Passarelli, UNVOTE
hoshiro - minjae, UNVOTE, phil
minjae - Blackmage, UNVOTE, Passarelli, UNVOTE, Passarelli
brett friggin favre - phil
Passarelli - minjae, UNVOTE, DJ_MikeyRevile, UNVOTE, minjae, UNVOTE, phil, UNVOTE
Phil - DJ_MikeyRevile, UNVOTE, hoshiro-, UNVOTE, Passarelli
Scribble -
Trigger Unhappy - DJ_MikeyRevile, UNVOTE, phil, UNVOTE, phil, UNVOTE, minjae

[COLOR="#00FF00"]With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.


Reposted for you. Scribbles and Blade are the only 2 who abstained from voting.

Also, I'm fairly sure Minjae isn't scum. We shouldn't worry about him until we find the head werewolf.

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Also, What said that one of three things would happen. No lynch, random lynch, or lynch with the most votes. I'm guessing he rolled a d3 to figure out what he was doing.

[Assassin]

Yeah I'd bet that is their plan, just creep along and slowly gather people up.

Vote Scribs

[brett friggin favre]

I have nothing else to go on but I think that voting on someone with a history of being minimally active because he's been minimally active is fallacious. Because of this, between scribbs and blade, I'd suspect blade more, but this is still a weak premise

[BladeTwinSwords]

I have nothing else to go on but I think that voting on someone with a history of being minimally active because he's been minimally active is fallacious. Because of this, between scribbs and blade, I'd suspect blade more, but this is still a weak premise

Suspect me all you want. I don't have shit evidence to go on so I'm not doing dick for the time being. The only thing I can do right now is suspect people. My picks are BM and Minj.

I'm like 60% sure that Scrib is just VT.

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I have nothing else to go on but I think that voting on someone with a history of being minimally active because he's been minimally active is fallacious. Because of this, between scribbs and blade, I'd suspect blade more, but this is still a weak premise

Suspect me all you want. I don't have shit evidence to go on so I'm not doing dick for the time being. The only thing I can do right now is suspect people. My picks are BM and Minj.

I'm like 60% sure that Scrib is just VT.

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What the shit forums?

[SCRIBBLE]

Absolutely nothing worth while to contribute. Lynch me if you please, better for town that way instead of being turned ww. Unless being turned ww and winning gives me a win then I could care less either way. Whatever.

vote minj dude pretty much claimed ww. May not be mafia but iy trims the fat nonetheless.

[brett friggin favre]

Suspect me all you want. I don't have shit evidence to go on so I'm not doing dick for the time being. The only thing I can do right now is suspect people. My picks are BM and Minj.

I'm like 60% sure that Scrib is just VT.

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Suspect me all you want. I don't have shit evidence to go on so I'm not doing dick for the time being. The only thing I can do right now is suspect people. My picks are BM and Minj.

I'm like 60% sure that Scrib is just VT.

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What the shit forums?

didn't say i was suspicious of you, just saying that going by their logic you'd be more fishy than scribble since you tend to be more active.

[BladeTwinSwords]

didn't say i was suspicious of you, just saying that going by their logic you'd be more fishy than scribble since you tend to be more active.

That is true. I suppose it's mostly because I'm concentrating more on creating more mafia games for people to play.

[SCRIBBLE]

That is true. I suppose it's mostly because I'm concentrating more on creating more mafia games for people to play.
More like:

i am scum

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That is true. I suppose it's mostly because I'm concentrating more on creating more mafia games for people to play.
More like:

i am scum

[BladeTwinSwords]

What's with the forum double posting?

[SCRIBBLE]

No clue, tends to do it when I post from my phone but I have no explanation for you since have a potato with numbers on it.

[Passarelli]

Yup, pretty sure I guessed right with Scribbles from what I have seen this far from him.

Sorry, I stopped by a bar and ran into an old friend or I'd post something more elaborate.

I see Minjae as maybe the head vamp then a WW. Right now it is more important to get the WWs than the vamps.

[SCRIBBLE]

Please, everyone vote for me. Pass is pretty sure he guessed right, so why not?

[CYBER]

Please, everyone vote for me. Pass is pretty sure he guessed right, so why not?


to be fair... ur entire responses so far to any prodding has been
"vote me, he's wrong and dumb"....

this passive aggressive way of dodging prodding is getting old, do u have anything of value to add? you don't.
have you been useful at all in this game other than afk'ing it by letting shit run its course? no you haven't.
Did you even REACT to phil's shit? no you didn't.


So please, tell me again how it's not possible that you're scum?
Matter of a fact, considering what i THINK pass is based on his stubburness to phil's PR role, he seems dead set on you.
And if im right about pass, then i WILL follow through on what his opinion of you is.

unvote
Vote scribble.
(again)

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No clue, tends to do it when I post from my phone but I have no explanation for you since have a potato with numbers on it.
oh and 1 last thing.
Don't fuck with GlaDOS.
She tends to hold grudges.

[Passarelli]

I'm not positive Cyber. The guess was a guess, though if you compare what I did day 1 to now and see what Scribbles has done so far, my reasoning should be clear.

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That said, I was really just trying to cover for the Doc or Seer so they could maybe sneak in a vote for who they looked at without giving themselves away.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Still think Scrib is VT.

[brett friggin favre]

Still think Scrib is VT.

that would also be my guess.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Still say that FoS is on BM and Minj.

Unsure of everyone else.

[SCRIBBLE]

Don't worry, cyber is the expert on scribble. Cyber I have already stated I have nothing of value to add. Anyone with a fifth grade comprehension level should be able to see that. That is the plight of a vt townie. Please, once again, everyone vote me to prove how smart cyber is. Meta some more dude. I am bored with this game. My vote stays on minj because he is soft claiming ww.

[CYBER]

I'm not positive Cyber. The guess was a guess, though if you compare what I did day 1 to now and see what Scribbles has done so far, my reasoning should be clear.

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That said, I was really just trying to cover for the Doc or Seer so they could maybe sneak in a vote for who they looked at without giving themselves away.

Ffs pass.
U throw all those hints around about your vision of this game with your play style , then you gotta expect ppl to catch on and follow a lead blindly in such fucking setup until proved wrong...

Unvote
I'll just stick around till you see things clearer.

you nominating scribbs after night passed was too fucking gd to be true.
Pay attention, you see? Ergh

Also... that no death night tho... Dynamic duo? We're u blocked?

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Were *
Fucking mexican autocorrect

[minjae]

So I claimed again? And this time WW? O.o

Hrm.....pushing to vote me huh?

Vote Scribbs

[Blackmage]

Cyber, from page 29:


Side note, Mikey, Ass, you might want to decide what to do with the faith healer. If you ARE planning on shooting someone, you want to find a way to NOT have the healer protect that person.


also, blackmage. I will say it now and personally tell assassin, not to kill tonight.


You take all the fun out of it...sigh fine..no capping someone.

Given this post (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12633-Mafia-Game-Monster-Mash-(Hosted-by-Sin-and-What)?p=188994#post188994) I would assume they stuck with their plan.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Or its possible they did shoot and by chance the FH protected the enemy.

[Passarelli]

Either way, the FH protected an enemy.

I think Cyber got converted last night.

[Assassin]

Sigh...ok to get this going, we cannot "shoot" anyone. We only have either a $50==50/50 chance or a 100% chance to cap people that visit us.

[Passarelli]

Assassin, I'd say you and Mikey should shoot Cyber tonight. It looks like he has been trying to convey information to his new partners since he didn't get to night talk with them. Shoot me the following night since I'll likely be converted by then.

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By the way, mr healer. I wouldn't out yourself yet. Based on the flavor, I'd say you protected the last vampire or the WW that stayed home.

[brett friggin favre]

Assassin, I'd say you and Mikey should shoot Cyber tonight. It looks like he has been trying to convey information to his new partners since he didn't get to night talk with them. Shoot me the following night since I'll likely be converted by then.

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By the way, mr healer. I wouldn't out yourself yet. Based on the flavor, I'd say you protected the last vampire or the WW that stayed home.

you forget your shared immunity with cyber. as mexicans, you can't be turned into werewolves. you would be converted into chupacabras and turned into your own faction, separate from the werewolves.

actually that's a fun idea...

[Passarelli]

I'm a daego, not a mexican >_>

[BladeTwinSwords]

I'm a daego, not a mexican >_>

Dago?

[brett friggin favre]

I'm a daego, not a mexican >_>

sorry i can't hear you over the sound of you crossing my damn border.

[Blackmage]

Sigh...ok to get this going, we cannot "shoot" anyone. We only have either a $50==50/50 chance or a 100% chance to cap people that visit us.

Why can't you shoot anyone? Did the vig get wolf'd?

[CYBER]

Assassin, I'd say you and Mikey should shoot Cyber tonight. It looks like he has been trying to convey information to his new partners since he didn't get to night talk with them.
The fuck are you talking about?
Please show me where I was conveying that information?
And if I was converted why the fuck would I even do that in here during day when I could just talk to the lead WW or cub and tell them at night...

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

The fuck are you talking about?
Please show me where I was conveying that information?
And if I was converted why the fuck would I even do that in here during day when I could just talk to the lead WW or cub and tell them at night...
Onlybone ww can talk to the alpha at night. The rest of them are in the dark until a ww dies.

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Why can't you shoot anyone? Did the vig get wolf'd?

Why would the vig shoot n1?
Dont speak scum, we will get to you in time.

[Blackmage]

Why would the vig shoot n1?
Dont speak scum, we will get to you in time.

*Sigh* If you're going to be a whiny brat, at least learn to read. "we cannot "shoot" anyone." He didn't say "did not". He said "cannot". If your head wasn't so far up your ass, you might see things in front of your face.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

*Sigh* If you're going to be a whiny brat, at least learn to read. "we cannot "shoot" anyone." He didn't say "did not". He said "cannot". If your head wasn't so far up your ass, you might see things in front of your face.

You are truly helpless.


I will reveiw the thread when I get a stable internet connection.

[Assassin]

Wow Mikey, you are truly helpless, BM you are correct. I wayed giving this information compared the round and roundness of you guys lynching someone off incorrect assumptions and that's why I told it. I mean really, jesus fuck Mikey.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

The question Iasked was fucking rhetoric. Both of you are fucking retarded.

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Blackmage, what he is saying is that it osnt 100% that he hits a target.. which is also fucking retarded because the role flavor is already posted in the fucking sign up thread.


Like... the mental retardation at this moment is unbelievable.

[Assassin]

The question Iasked was fucking rhetoric. Both of you are fucking retarded.

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Blackmage, what he is saying is that it osnt 100% that he hits a target.. which is also fucking retarded because the role flavor is already posted in the fucking sign up thread.


Like... the mental retardation at this moment is unbelievable.
Yes it is...

[Blackmage]

Ah, so what you're saying is there is more information not given in the starting post. Touche. I will say I'm loving all the information the mods won't give about an open setup.

Ass: This is what punctuation is for. Your post, when read as presented "Sigh...ok to get this going, we cannot "shoot" anyone. We only have either a $50==50/50 chance or a 100% chance to cap people that visit us." Says: The vig can't shoot. The Vig hits people who visits half the time, and the PGO hits them 100% of the time. This is the reason I asked for clarification.

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Also, Mikey, what do you think rhetoric means? What is the relevance to calling that rhetoric in regards to my reply at all? It being rhetoric doesn't make it relevant to the question asked.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Ah, so what you're saying is there is more information not given in the starting post. Touche. I will say I'm loving all the information the mods won't give about an open setup.

Ass: This is what punctuation is for. Your post, when read as presented "Sigh...ok to get this going, we cannot "shoot" anyone. We only have either a $50==50/50 chance or a 100% chance to cap people that visit us." Says: The vig can't shoot. The Vig hits people who visits half the time, and the PGO hits them 100% of the time. This is the reason I asked for clarification.

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Also, Mikey, what do you think rhetoric means? What is the relevance to calling that rhetoric in regards to my reply at all? It being rhetoric doesn't make it relevant to the question asked.

to clarify, as a team we decided assassin would not shot anyone N1. As promised by me D1. In regards to assassin being turned, i can not clarify that until after this night phase. It actually raises a legitimate question regarding being able to communicate.
If assassin is turned, how does me attempting to communicate with him the following night work? Can he pretend to still be the vig and communicate with me? How is this rule enforced? (the no communicating outside of the game, unless your role specifically states)

[Blackmage]

I asked that exact question and got told the answers are in the original post.

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"This means NO MORE TALKING with your partner at NIGHT! Come up with your own strategies on how to remedy this!" But as you say, we aren't told if when the ally knows, so I didn't know if you'd be able to tell.

[CYBER]

Mikey and ass I have 1 question for u both.
Did u guys TALK at night? And not just leave 1 sided msgs?
As in
Player A said smthn about game, and player B REPLIED about the game?
I stated this before, each night, each of u should try to talk to the other and force them to reply to u no questions asked, and if that person fails to reply, we need to know here because they could be just dodging their partner because they aren't allowed to reply to them if converted.

Mikey where does it state that the converted can't talk to the alpha or cub?
The closest thing I got on epic mafia was a blood werewolf and it doesn't me too alpha or cub or communications.
Epic mafia werewolf has that thing that What used in his previous game.
Mafia scum has a complete different werewolf similar to Nemesis game.

And as for Sin's sign up setup, i went to read it and it says that "only 1 feral flare can talk to the alpha at one time."
But didn't find anything about converted and the cub for example who can relay info to the boss... As far as I know, the converted can talk to the cub at least and relay info to boss.

[Passarelli]

If Werewolf Cub dies, the next Feral Werewolf takes its place in night meetings. Only (1) Feral Werewolf at a time can communicate with the Alpha Werewolf

Read this again Cyber. I know it isn't spanish, but you should be able to understand it. Also remember that next to "Werewolf Cub" it says "Feral Werewolf" in parenthesis.

[CYBER]

Read this again Cyber. I know it isn't spanish, but you should be able to understand it. Also remember that next to "Werewolf Cub" it says "Feral Werewolf" in parenthesis.


I have sent a msg to sin about this specifically but you guys are missing what i'm trying to say.
And thank you for quoting it:
It said only 1 feral werewolf at a time (that includes the cub, i get it) can communicate WITH THE ALPHA WEREWOLF.

ok here's my problem with this. When I first read this, I assumed that it's like a company.
The boss (alpha) is sitting on his high throne in his office, and only the Manager (Cub) has the key to open that door and walk in to talk to the damn boss while the employees (converted feral ww) are to say outside at all times, in their own bunkers, in silence (unable to talk to eachother, at worst case).

And should the manager suffer a heart attack outside, the next in line for manager will receive that key and can see the boss.

I GET THAT.

What i'm trying to say is that no where in that rulebook does it say that the EMPLOYEES can talk TO THE MANAGER (CUB), NOT THE BOSS.
When i first read this ,i assumed that the cub acted as a liaison between all members of the "company".
Where the employees arent allowed to talk to eachother or the boss, and only the cub can talk to the boss, whereas an employee can ask the manager a question or give data, and then the cub has to relay it to the boss (just like some bureaucratic shit) ...


get it now???

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ok.
So sin got back to me, and i take it back.

Mikey is... rrrr.... mikey is rrrrrrrrrrr...

Mikey's right....
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Neil-Patrick-Harris-Gun-to-Head.gif


Apparently: Only communications in the WW faction whasoever are between the alpha and the cub ONLY.
no communications among converted.
no communications between cub and converted.
no communications between alpha and converted.

^ reworded summary of reply.

so yeah.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I have sent a msg to sin about this specifically but you guys are missing what i'm trying to say.
And thank you for quoting it:
It said only 1 feral werewolf at a time (that includes the cub, i get it) can communicate WITH THE ALPHA WEREWOLF.

ok here's my problem with this. When I first read this, I assumed that it's like a company.
The boss (alpha) is sitting on his high throne in his office, and only the Manager (Cub) has the key to open that door and walk in to talk to the damn boss while the employees (converted feral ww) are to say outside at all times, in their own bunkers, in silence (unable to talk to eachother, at worst case).

And should the manager suffer a heart attack outside, the next in line for manager will receive that key and can see the boss.

I GET THAT.

What i'm trying to say is that no where in that rulebook does it say that the EMPLOYEES can talk TO THE MANAGER (CUB), NOT THE BOSS.
When i first read this ,i assumed that the cub acted as a liaison between all members of the "company".
Where the employees arent allowed to talk to eachother or the boss, and only the cub can talk to the boss, whereas an employee can ask the manager a question or give data, and then the cub has to relay it to the boss (just like some bureaucratic shit) ...


get it now???

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ok.
So sin got back to me, and i take it back.

Mikey is... rrrr.... mikey is rrrrrrrrrrr...

Mikey's right....
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Neil-Patrick-Harris-Gun-to-Head.gif


Apparently: Only communications in the WW faction whasoever are between the alpha and the cub ONLY.
no communications among converted.
no communications between cub and converted.
no communications between alpha and converted.

^ reworded summary of reply.

so yeah.

So in other words... you are stupid and failed to understand pretty obvious information put out prior to the game.

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perhaps.... due to your lack of reading comprehension, you failed to read that part about how once the cub dies a feral takes its place. only one ww apart from the alphas can communicate etween the alpha an themselves...... You are over analyzing information that dosnt need to be analyzed.

Why not focus on the fucking game...

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last thing cyber.. this is an open set up. if the roles functioned how you are pretending to speculate them functioning.. it would fucking say so.

[Passarelli]

He also solidified my suspicions of him being converted.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

everything above this was posted before getting to the part where you said i was right.
You learned a valuable lesson today......

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and no pass, you have not.

I wont be able to go through the posts tell the morning.

I will do so and portray my thoughts.

[Passarelli]

Mikey, my personal suspicions of him were solidified. I didn't say that you had to think so.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Vote Cyber

Why? Cause he was WRONG

[Passarelli]

It's more important to kill the alpha before we have more converted running around. If noone has any better ideas we could lynch him.

[BladeTwinSwords]

It's more important to kill the alpha before we have more converted running around. If noone has any better ideas we could lynch him.

I don't have any other ideas.

[Trigger Unhappy]

I think cyber was anti-town before this night... He was pretty vocal about protecting Phil.

Vote Cyber

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

So I claimed again? And this time WW? O.o

Hrm.....pushing to vote me huh?

Vote Scribbs

Your stupid howling posts and wolf hints are why....

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Also, I want everyone to keep in mind. If cyber turns up werewolf, pass is still one of my suspects. It is entierly likley that he is attempting to bus the person he converted last night to help him appear town sided. Pass seems overly confident in cyber being a werewolf that id bet on my theory of cyber turns up feral.

[minjae]

Unvote

LOL so because I howled means I am in fact WW?
LOL how dumb do you think I am? Please...Let's think logically.
I'm bored and this game is going by slow.

Vote Cyber

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Unvote

LOL so because I howled means I am in fact WW?
LOL how dumb do you think I am? Please...Let's think logically.
I'm bored and this game is going by slow.

Vote Cyber

Or you made subtle hints at being a werewolf so that the converted know who not to wagon lynch.

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But alas, I will trust my gut for now and lay off you minjae.

[minjae]

Uhm...for now huh? Ok ok..

You should definitely trust your gut. Well depending..

I dunno tho. Making that subtle hint sounds like a good idea, but seems too reckless.
But whoever alpha is. Try it.

[Sin]

Vote Count 2.01

minjae(1)
Scribble(2)
Cyber(3)

Deceased - Phil


Vote History:
Assassin - Scribble
Blackmage -
BladeTwinSwords - Cyber
Cyber - Scribble, UNVOTE
DJ_MikeyRevile -
hoshiro -
minjae - Scribble, UNVOTE, Cyber
brett friggin favre -
Passarelli - Scribble
Phil -
Scribble - minjae
Trigger Unhappy - Cyber

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.



Mod notes:
None for now.

[Assassin]

Hoenstly by the way cyber was talking, I think he wanted to (and may have) been converted, which means he isn't the head WW.

[Assassin]

Mikey you need to re read our abilities man.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Vote cyber

[Assassin]

Dude hes not head ww.

[brett friggin favre]

Dude hes not head ww.

and do you know who is? no. what better plan do we have?

vote cyber

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Dude hes not head ww.

the reason for my vote is well beyond any attempt to win....
It has been made apparent to me that you are very bad at this game. This is neglecting the fact the you outted us as mason's day 1.

Why you insist on being a complete douche bag to your partner is beyond me.
I am very close to asking to be replaced because of my little interest in this game at the moment in time.

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oh, yes... the reason for my vote.

Cyber has proven time and time again that he is horrible at mafia. Voting him for his blatant mistakes like the one he showed will help him progress in critical thinking. It is also a situation that people can look to for guidance. i.e. "you learn from your mistakes but also learn from others."

to me and most people.. his mistake is obvious.. and in a real game with all players being on an equal skill level... what cyber did would be lynchable.

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id like to make note.

I bear no resentment to the mods, despite what likley saying i was the worst player. The games progression and livleyness is dependant on the players and if none of you want to fucking participate and initiate... no game will ever be diffrent than this or the last.
Stop relying on a select few people to lead and take initiative. You will not learn if you do not.... no one cares if you are wrond or right.. if you are wrong.. it only refines you into a better player.. if you are right.. it only refines you into a better player....

stop being sheep.

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related to the game...
please take note at who isnt hammering....

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lastly.. do not hammer until cyber has a chance to speak... if you hammer before than... i will let assassin know and the mason will kill you. K thx.

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Cyber is at L-1 Do not hammer until he has spoken and people have had time to respond!

[BladeTwinSwords]

I would Unvote so no one does....but no I'm fairly confident that Cyber is either WW or has been Bitten.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I would Unvote so no one does....but no I'm fairly confident that Cyber is either WW or has been Bitten.

i beg too differ...
Cyber is either bad or mafia roleblocker.

[Passarelli]

Cyber could be the leader if you think he is good enough to play bitten today to avoid a lynch.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Cyber could be the leader if you think he is good enough to play bitten today to avoid a lynch.

no, i dont think he is leader.

If cyber is leader, i will cordially apologize. If he is not, you are likley the masons target tonight.

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@blackmage.. everytime i used rhetoric, i said so from my phone.

So for every place i used the word rhetoric, replace it with rhetorical*

[Passarelli]

That would have been a great plan if you didn't announce it since I likely would have been converted this night. >_>

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Also, I don't think he is leader either. I'm pretty positive he was converted because of his posts today.

[Assassin]

the reason for my vote is well beyond any attempt to win....
It has been made apparent to me that you are very bad at this game. This is neglecting the fact the you outted us as mason's day 1.

Why you insist on being a complete douche bag to your partner is beyond me.
I am very close to asking to be replaced because of my little interest in this game at the moment in time.

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oh, yes... the reason for my vote.

Cyber has proven time and time again that he is horrible at mafia. Voting him for his blatant mistakes like the one he showed will help him progress in critical thinking. It is also a situation that people can look to for guidance. i.e. "you learn from your mistakes but also learn from others."

to me and most people.. his mistake is obvious.. and in a real game with all players being on an equal skill level... what cyber did would be lynchable.

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id like to make note.

I bear no resentment to the mods, despite what likley saying i was the worst player. The games progression and livleyness is dependant on the players and if none of you want to fucking participate and initiate... no game will ever be diffrent than this or the last.
Stop relying on a select few people to lead and take initiative. You will not learn if you do not.... no one cares if you are wrond or right.. if you are wrong.. it only refines you into a better player.. if you are right.. it only refines you into a better player....

stop being sheep.

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related to the game...
please take note at who isnt hammering....

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lastly.. do not hammer until cyber has a chance to speak... if you hammer before than... i will let assassin know and the mason will kill you. K thx.

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Cyber is at L-1 Do not hammer until he has spoken and people have had time to respond!

First off I already told you, I won't out us again like that to save your worthless ass next time and just let the lynch you. Clearly that's what I should have done and have learned from it. Second off, YOU DON"T READ OUR SHIT! GO BACK AND READ OUR ABILITIES AS GIVEN BY SIN. Trying to say anything different from them is retarded.

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Also Vote Cyber

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Sorry meant Unvote
Vote Cyber

[Sin]

That's a lynch!! Cease all discussion. Lynch scene coming soon.

[Passarelli]

ZZzzzzzzZZZzzzzz

[CYBER]

sad.
if i wasn't so damn busy with resumes and job interviews all day yesterday...
Didn't even know i was at L-1....

Good job letting me respond at L-1 fucktards. good fucking job.

Glad there isn't a damn team of braindead people quoting a "don't hammer cyber till he responds", make it huge bold letters, and them hammer it.
TWICE.



I SWEAR if someone fucking pulls that hammering shit on me without responding one more time, no matter the outcome, im gonna rape their grandchildren with a pointy sombrero.

peace.

[CYBER]

lastly.. do not hammer until cyber has a chance to speak... if you hammer before than... i will let assassin know and the mason will kill you. K thx.

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Cyber is at L-1 Do not hammer until he has spoken and people have had time to respond!



and ASSASSIN hammers me...

HAHAHA this is fucking gold retardness from your mason leaders ! xD


gg.

[What]

The day was drawing to a close, and the villager’s suspicions were becoming clear.

“Explain yourself! Why are you acting so different?”

“Why the sudden change of heart? What happened last night?”


“It’s nothing really guys, I’ve just reevaluated the facts.”

“Bullshit you heathen!”


“Come on, who’s to say that these monsters are even real?”

“Enough! Let’s get him men!”

“Rabble Rabble Rabble!”

Cyber – Anton Goodinsworth – Feral Wolf has been killed

As the moon began to rise, one gave the remaining villagers some sage advice.

“Don’t go around tonight, it’s bound to take your life.”

Night 2 begins, You have 72 hours to send in your actions.

[Sin]

For those of you who attempted to send me your Night Actions, please try again now!!!

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

yawnnnnnnnn

[BladeTwinSwords]

Boooooooooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing

[Assassin]

go faster people...people need to die here!

[What]

The night was long, and anything but still….

“Things are progressing well, nothing to worry about my friend.”


“Indeed master. What of tonight?”

“You leave that to me.”

He didn’t travel far, before he felt like he was being watched. Being quicker than the one watching him, he was able to get the upper hand.

“Where did he go? He was right here a moment ago.”


“Looking for someone?”

“You! I should have known to never trust someone from London.”


“Oh well, it’s a shame you won’t be able to tell the tale.”



“Not so fast! Spawn of the devil, get back!”

“Praise the Lord!”



“You will not hurt this man. Back in the name of Christ!”


“Enough of this! You are finished!”

With a swipe of his paw, he mortally wounded the defender. As he clung to life, he was able to shout out to his friend:

“RUN you fool!”

The monster’s pray receded into the night, thanking God for the fortune he found this night.

Trigger Unhappy – Hannibal King, Town Faith Healer has been killed.

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Away from the action, one saw it fit to visit his quarry, just to make sure….


Day 3 Begins!

[Passarelli]

Trigger, I fucking love you man. You saved this game.

Vote Brett

[BladeTwinSwords]

Vote Brett

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Pass got a bullseye

[Passarelli]

Vote Brett

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Pass got a bullseye

Ding ding ding. From the flavor, I got the leader too. This should be good game, since Blackmage is likely the other vamp.

I'm the seer if you didn't catch that yet.

Thanks Assassin or Mikey for not actually shooting me tonight.

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err, last night I mean.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

hmmmm.

[brett friggin favre]

err...wut?

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Ding ding ding. From the flavor, I got the leader too. This should be good game, since Blackmage is likely the other vamp.

I'm the seer if you didn't catch that yet.

Thanks Assassin or Mikey for not actually shooting me tonight.

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err, last night I mean.

np, i took some time to sit back and evaluate the posts i had been missing over the weekend.

Minjae is likley the cub.

I take it you investigated brett. Thus all the flavor fitting together.

[Passarelli]

Really Mikey? What don't you understand about this? >_>

Trigger protected me and did not succeed on his roll so he died in my place. Read the flavor, I clearly got a success. Do you need me to post my hint day 1? Hell, Cyber outing me day 2 should have confirmed me.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

however, i will not simply vote brett yet. Quick wagons before CC's have happened before in games i have played and will wait for town to reply.

[Passarelli]

Minjae isn't the cub. I investigated him night 1.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Really Mikey? What don't you understand about this? >_>

Trigger protected me and did not succeed on his roll so he died in my place. Read the flavor, I clearly got a success. Do you need me to post my hint day 1? Hell, Cyber outing me day 2 should have confirmed me.

this post is irrelvant due to it likley being posted before refreshing the page and seeing my second post.

[Passarelli]

Great, now the cub (hosh or scribble) is going to CC me.

I clearly got the leader, I softed day 1.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Minjae isn't the cub. I investigated him night 1.

then minjae is derp.

If all of these events are accurate according to you, its GG. I will applaud you.

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Great, now the cub (hosh or scribble) is going to CC me.

I clearly got the leader, I softed day 1.

why would you say this?

[brett friggin favre]

gg i'm the lead werewolf.

didn't know a doctor could block conversion, if i knew that could happen i wouldn't have sent myself.
role read as "Has 100% chance to turn their Target if they so choose" which i thought was 100% chance to convert...not that it can still be blocked. didn't see anything in faith healer or doc roles that would indicate they can stop a conversion.
had this been clear, i wouldn't have gone to do it myself.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

gg i'm the lead werewolf.

didn't know a doctor could block conversion, if i knew that could happen i wouldn't have sent myself.
role read as "Has 100% chance to turn their Target if they so choose" which i thought was 100% chance to convert...not that it can still be blocked. didn't see anything in faith healer or doc roles that would indicate they can stop a conversion.
had this been clear, i wouldn't have gone to do it myself.

interesting point.

vote brett

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interesting point.

vote brett

on second thought.
unvote

Im a bit tipsy and my gut isnt buying this shit story.
let me run some numbers real quick.

[BladeTwinSwords]

gg i'm the lead werewolf.

didn't know a doctor could block conversion, if i knew that could happen i wouldn't have sent myself.
role read as "Has 100% chance to turn their Target if they so choose" which i thought was 100% chance to convert...not that it can still be blocked. didn't see anything in faith healer or doc roles that would indicate they can stop a conversion.
had this been clear, i wouldn't have gone to do it myself.

That moment when you realize that all hope is lost.

[Passarelli]

The alpha went after me and from the flavor that is who I looked at.

Minjae is derp. That is why I wanted to vote him day 1 so I wouldn't waste a night looking at him. Me going in a different direction day 2 should have been a good indicator that he wasn't a WW. He could be the vamp if Blackmage isn't.

Hosh or Scribble is the Cub and will CC me to try to protect Brett. Blade is cleared now in my opinion since he seconded my vote. This doesn't even matter since all werewolves die when the alpha dies.

Are you serious Mikey? Brett just admitted to being the Alpha. >_> He could be the Cub I guess but then either Scribble or Hosh (likely Hosh) is the Cub.

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Brett, I still would have gotten you killed today either way. Trigger gets MVP this game for that protection and laying low. <3<3<3

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

The alpha went after me and from the flavor that is who I looked at.

Minjae is derp. That is why I wanted to vote him day 1 so I wouldn't waste a night looking at him. Me going in a different direction day 2 should have been a good indicator that he wasn't a WW. He could be the vamp if Blackmage isn't.

Hosh or Scribble is the Cub and will CC me to try to protect Brett. Blade is cleared now in my opinion since he seconded my vote. This doesn't even matter since all werewolves die when the alpha dies.

Are you serious Mikey? Brett just admitted to being the Alpha. >_> He could be the Cub I guess but then either Scribble or Hosh (likely Hosh) is the Cub.

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Brett, I still would have gotten you killed today either way. Trigger gets MVP this game for that protection and laying low. <3<3<3

im not being ignorant tard bucket. Im trying to convey an obvious message about skepticism.
It is entirely possible that brett is the cub, covering for the alpha by making a post confessing to being the alpha.
Did you receive a message that states trigger protected you? If not, then nothing is 100% and a good player like brett would have the wits to make a call like "confessing" or "bussing" his leader.

its not that i dont think this is GG.. tbh i do, which is precisely why you did not die............................................... ..........................

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also, id like to mention your slip... saying that both brett and hosh or scribbs are cub.

which of the 3 is it?

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my point is that.. the flavor only makes 100% sense to YOU.. to players who are expereinced, despite the flavor.. what you did is considered quick lynching. An attempt to wagon players before people have a time to respond.
The flavor dosnt make as much sense to the rest of the players, like it does to you.

Blades vote is because he assumes that you are the seer based off the quick lynch and flavor. However, anyone could do that as a soft claim.

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not to mention that the "london" sentence appears to be a huge identifier and brett has (to my knowledge) no affiliation to london or britian.

[Blackmage]

Yeah, the amount of hidden information in an open setup was staggering, it's why I'd given up before I got into the argument with Mikey. GG town. Nice win.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Yeah, the amount of hidden information in an open setup was staggering, it's why I'd given up before I got into the argument with Mikey. GG town. Nice win.

Hidden information is annoying.

[Blackmage]

Only annoying when it shouldn't exist :)

vote brett

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Only annoying when it shouldn't exist :)

vote brett

i beg to differ.. the amount of effort the mods put into making sure all info was available.. it apparent.

[Passarelli]

im not being ignorant tard bucket. Im trying to convey an obvious message about skepticism.
I didn't call you ignorant.


It is entirely possible that brett is the cub, covering for the alpha by making a post confessing to being the alpha.

Not from the flavor.


Did you receive a message that states trigger protected you? If not, then nothing is 100% and a good player like brett would have the wits to make a call like "confessing" or "bussing" his leader.

I did not but there really can't be any other way what happened in the flavor went down without trigger protecting me.

also, id like to mention your slip... saying that both brett and hosh or scribbs are cub.

which of the 3 is it?


Where did I say that?



my point is that.. the flavor only makes 100% sense to YOU.. to players who are expereinced, despite the flavor.. what you did is considered quick lynching. An attempt to wagon players before people have a time to respond.
The flavor dosnt make as much sense to the rest of the players, like it does to you.

It makes 100% sense if you accept that I am the seer, which I softed day 1 and a cub outed me as such to ensure I would be targeted.


Blades vote is because he assumes that you are the seer based off the quick lynch and flavor. However, anyone could do that as a soft claim.

Because Blade caught my hint day 1.



not to mention that the "london" sentence appears to be a huge identifier and brett has (to my knowledge) no affiliation to london or britian.
[/quote]
You need to listen to more music Mikey.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDpYBT0XyvA

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Beware, I fucked up and have an extra /quote above. Be sure to delete it if you quote this post.

[Blackmage]

i beg to differ.. the amount of effort the mods put into making sure all info was available.. it apparent.

I agree, they did TRY at the start. But that doesn't mean they succeeded. 50/50 on the Vig? If that's real, that's a MAJOR detail to leave out and never correct, for example.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

pass, im not trying to discredit you.
Perhaps you lack the ability to acknowledge what people are saying when you are high on victory.

What im saying is, alot of are players are brand spanking new and need to learn about proper skeptisim. Shit like what happened in my last game, is not right and people need to spend time analyzing data.
Get off your high horse.
This win was a combined effort between three people.
No thanks to assassin.

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I agree, they did TRY at the start. But that doesn't mean they succeeded. 50/50 on the Vig? If that's real, that's a MAJOR detail to leave out and never correct, for example.

no, assassin misread.

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we actually got into a small squabble over it at night time.

[Passarelli]

I understand skepticism, but I should be pretty much cleared and confirmed.

Let me take a page from your book!

FACT - I was the one who called bullshit on Phil (which lead the the main evidence that blackmage is the other vamp). The only reason I did that is because I was the seer. Trigger being the FH and dying should make that obvious.
FACT - I softed it day 1.
FACT - Cyber outed my soft and make it clear what he thought I was.
FACT - I was right about Cyber being converted.
FACT - the flavor last night.
FACT - I got a werewolf result on Brett.
FACT - Brett admitted to being the alpha.

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Mikey, if I'm wrong, just fucking shoot me tonight. >_>

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Otherwise, shoot Blackmage. ^_^

[Blackmage]

So my confusion at his comment yesterday was founded!

However, that was just one thing. There are some other things, including the faith healer surprise, not being willing to tell the order of actions, and not fully answering questions.

Pass: The fact that he hasn't shot me yet is frankly confusing me. Given you shoot people you are dead sure are scum I really should be just plain dead :P

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

I understand skepticism, but I should be pretty much cleared and confirmed.

Let me take a page from your book!

FACT - I was the one who called bullshit on Phil (which lead the the main evidence that blackmage is the other vamp). The only reason I did that is because I was the seer. Trigger being the FH and dying should make that obvious.
FACT - I softed it day 1.
FACT - Cyber outed my soft and make it clear what he thought I was.
FACT - I was right about Cyber being converted.
FACT - the flavor last night.
FACT - I got a werewolf result on Brett.
FACT - Brett admitted to being the alpha.

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Mikey, if I'm wrong, just fucking shoot me tonight. >_>

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Otherwise, shoot Blackmage. ^_^

i never disagreed with you! uhg... i think we need separate thread dedicate to learning and development as it will not happen in games.

As far as phil goes.. i disagree ten fold.

Assassin is having some emo problems, i will try to get him to kill blackmage tonight in a reasonable time frame.

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Pass: The fact that he hasn't shot me yet is frankly confusing me. Given you shoot people you are dead sure are scum I really should be just plain dead :P


assassin is having some emo problems, i will try to get him to kill blackmage tonight in a reasonable time frame.


Should be self explanatory.

[brett friggin favre]

it was just a misunderstanding and lack of clarity about the role, now we know. shit happens.

[Blackmage]

Hopefully this helps with balancing and correcting things for next time.

[brett friggin favre]

Hopefully this helps with balancing and correcting things for next time.

i'm sure it will

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

it was just a misunderstanding and lack of clarity about the role, now we know. shit happens.

lack of clarity = msg the mods.

No one is banned from contacting the mods privatly and asking about how shit will function in the game.

Being that it is an open setup, questions about other roles are relevant.

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also, there was no balance issue and nothing needs to be corrected. This setup is pulled from the most popular list of open setups played at mafia scum, it was executed by the book.

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the issues everyone keeps blaming mods for are not mod issues... they are player issues.

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and last.. the game is still going on, nothing has been decided. as i stated, brett could easily be bussing and pass could easily be lying. Not everyone has had a chance to respond to the new day.

[Blackmage]

Mikey, um, are you forgetting HOW changed this was from the original setup? Tell me what is needed for the vamps to win in this version please.

Also, when the mod refuses to answer questions, asking them doesn't help.

[brett friggin favre]

lack of clarity = msg the mods.

No one is banned from contacting the mods privatly and asking about how shit will function in the game.

Being that it is an open setup, questions about other roles are relevant.

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also, there was no balance issue and nothing needs to be corrected. This setup is pulled from the most popular list of open setups played at mafia scum, it was executed by the book.

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the issues everyone keeps blaming mods for are not mod issues... they are player issues.

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and last.. the game is still going on, nothing has been decided. as i stated, brett could easily be bussing and pass could easily be lying. Not everyone has had a chance to respond to the new day.

i thought i understood the role, i wasn't aware until today that there was any miscommunication.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Mikey, um, are you forgetting HOW changed this was from the original setup? Tell me what is needed for the vamps to win in this version please.

Also, when the mod refuses to answer questions, asking them doesn't help.

What is needed for smart and intelligent mafia is....

Town siding inconspicuously. Ride thebgame out and work of lynchs. Throughout the game, learn about roles using your role block. Use process of elimination to determine the aplha and roleblock them continuously.
Nothingbis ever good enough for you. You will forever bitch about games because you fail to acknowledge your own shortcomings.

This game is fine, its you that is the problem.

I asked around 6 questions to the mods... most of the answers I got were " read the sign up thread" after frustration, I re read the thrwad.. to find that my answer was already there...

[CYBER]

LOL 5char

[Assassin]

Vote brett
and no I'm not being emo you tard, I fucking told you why I thought what I did. Stop pushing other shit out there to make yourself look better, we all know you're not.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Vote brett
and no I'm not being emo you tard, I fucking told you why I thought what I did. Stop pushing other shit out there to make yourself look better, we all know you're not.

Did you or did you not make a dramatic wrist slashing post about quitting mafia scum?

Yes.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

vote brett

[Sin]

That's a lynch... Scene coming soon!!

[Assassin]

Did you or did you not make a dramatic wrist slashing post about quitting mafia scum?

Yes.

I said it wasn't fun for me anymore so why do something that isn't fun? How is that wrist slashing? I mean unless your either an idiot or a sadomasochist....you shouldn't be doing things that don't either pay your bills or make you happy.

[minjae]

Shit a lot happened within a day.

[Assassin]

lol wtf is taking so long. Did we win or no?

[Trigger Unhappy]

yeah.. this is kinda crazy...

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

What writes the flavor....

[BladeTwinSwords]

The fuck is talking him so long.

[What]

The day was drawing to a close

"Rabble Rabble Rabble"

"Rabble Rabble Rabble"

"DERP DERP DERP"

"Rabble Rabble Rabble"

"Well its pretty clear what we need to do, guess you were wrong, we could read your poker face!"

"Meh"

Brett - William Corvinus, Alpha Werewolf has been lynched.

"Oh, right in the groin!"


Hoshiro - Lucius Fox, Wolf cub has also died.


"Hey, were all gonna get laid!"

Night 3 starts, you have 72 hours to send in actions

[CYBER]

Fucking flavour scene literally outed everyone. That was beyond fucking dumb What and sin... U literally screwed Brett and hosh and mod killed them yourselves... Good fucking job.

[brett friggin favre]

Fucking flavour scene literally outed everyone. That was beyond fucking dumb What and sin... U literally screwed Brett and hosh and mod killed them yourselves... Good fucking job.

cyber, i turned you and you got lynched the next day. i'm gonna go ahead and say you didn't contribute much to victory.

meanwhile, me and hosh were the original werewolves, and YOU'RE the one butthurt about a learning experience. lul.

[CYBER]

I outed myself for 2 fucking reasons:
1- I wanted you guys to know damn sure that pass was the seer and that you should have fucking converted HIM to begin with instead of me at the time where I already was on thin water for defending Phil who turned out as vamp... And even then that wasn't mostly my intention... Even tho I assumed that u could use that info, get the seer and then chill afterwards.


And 2- most importantly, fucking pass the idiot wrote me on steam saying that "oh so you figured out who I am" after I was hinting that pass could have been seer, which I was only like 70 % sure of. So i had gained information from the fucktard that I SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD CONCLUSIVELY. And so I had to fucking REALLY make damn sure that this information that I got was available for everyone... To make it fucking fair.
(pass we talked about this and I was fucking pretty enraged that this accidental info sharing made me fucking out myself obviously because he could now use that info to see how I reacted to it, which isn't fair to me... And he realized that he fucked up)
so rather than getting both of us mod killed bcos of a fucking retarded mistake, I outed myself and just didn't even bother responding to the waggon which I was watching anyway.


Other than that, me being lynched has nothing to do with too much revealing info... That flavour downright outed everyone in the werewolves, especially u the alpha..
And what's worse is that it's not like it's random flavour, the mods KNOW the actions submitted, and they should have known that this information along with pass investigating u and the ever so lovely "master should I do? The I got this." *tried converting the guy watching him *... Like wtf mods? That shit was fucking too much...

U could have claimed being a cub, or that u got converted this fucking night or wtvr, he'll even hosh could have counter claimed in hopes that he gets killed instead of u but nway it was gg at that time since pass investigated YOU..


WHICH IS FUCKING WHY U SHOULD HAVE CONVERTDD PASS WHO WAS GIVING THE BIGGEST SEER VIBE FROM INSISTING ON PHIL...

I would have waited for another night and I was already voting ppl who I thought were ww (u, scribble) just so that I can use that info later...
Nway. Bg. The steak continues.

[brett friggin favre]

I outed myself for 2 fucking reasons:
1- I wanted you guys to know damn sure that pass was the seer and that you should have fucking converted HIM to begin with instead of me at the time where I already was on thin water for defending Phil who turned out as vamp... And even then that wasn't mostly my intention... Even tho I assumed that u could use that info, get the seer and then chill afterwards.


And 2- most importantly, fucking pass the idiot wrote me on steam saying that "oh so you figured out who I am" after I was hinting that pass could have been seer, which I was only like 70 % sure of. So i had gained information from the fucktard that I SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD CONCLUSIVELY. And so I had to fucking REALLY make damn sure that this information that I got was available for everyone... To make it fucking fair.
(pass we talked about this and I was fucking pretty enraged that this accidental info sharing made me fucking out myself obviously because he could now use that info to see how I reacted to it, which isn't fair to me... And he realized that he fucked up)
so rather than getting both of us mod killed bcos of a fucking retarded mistake, I outed myself and just didn't even bother responding to the waggon which I was watching anyway.


Other than that, me being lynched has nothing to do with too much revealing info... That flavour downright outed everyone in the werewolves, especially u the alpha..
And what's worse is that it's not like it's random flavour, the mods KNOW the actions submitted, and they should have known that this information along with pass investigating u and the ever so lovely "master should I do? The I got this." *tried converting the guy watching him *... Like wtf mods? That shit was fucking too much...

U could have claimed being a cub, or that u got converted this fucking night or wtvr, he'll even hosh could have counter claimed in hopes that he gets killed instead of u but nway it was gg at that time since pass investigated YOU..


WHICH IS FUCKING WHY U SHOULD HAVE CONVERTDD PASS WHO WAS GIVING THE BIGGEST SEER VIBE FROM INSISTING ON PHIL...

I would have waited for another night and I was already voting ppl who I thought were ww (u, scribble) just so that I can use that info later...
Nway. Bg. The steak continues.

"pass told me his role on steam and rather than report that to the mods, i outed myself and told the world about him so that he'd be protected!"

that was the right play, cyber. you're just too good for us here, i bow to your greatness.

[BladeTwinSwords]

How about you stop being so whiny Cyber. What's done is done. You didn't do something, you paid the price. Simple as that. Learn from your mistakes.

[CYBER]

"pass told me his role on steam and rather than report that to the mods, i outed myself and told the world about him so that he'd be protected!"

that was the right play, cyber. you're just too good for us here, i bow to your greatness.
i did write sin. no one replied and so i just said "fuck it, i got this"
and i then at L-1 i just lost interest

[Sin]

You wrote me telling me you were talking about the game outside of the game? When?

[Nemesis]

Well this has devolved...

Cyber: 1-8

'nuff said.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Here is the list in order of who's fault it is.

Flavor Scene -- Blade
Information Leak -- Pass
Not getting the information -- Sin and What
Not targeting the correct person -- Brett and Hosh

Anyone else?

[Sin]

Night time happens.

Blackmage - Countess Irina - Mafia Roleblocker is shot and killed.

Town Wins.

Night 1 Actions:

Mikey - Abigail Whistler - Town Vigilante chooses No Action
Blackmage - Roleblocks Mikey
Trigger - Hannibal King - Town Faith Healer protects Passarelli
Passarelli - Officer Douglas McDougenstein - Town Seer investigates Minjae
Brett - William Corvinus - Alpha Werewolf attempts to turn Cryber

Night 2 Actions:

Mikey - chooses No Action
Blackmage - blocks Mikey
Trigger - protects Passarelli
Passarelli - investigates Brett
Brett - attempts to turn Passarelli

Night 3 Actions:

Mikey - Shoots Blackmage
Blackmage - chooses No Action
Passarelli - investigates Blackmage

[Assassin]

no one visited me to shoot them...sad panda.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Not even touched lol.

[minjae]

See one of the four that voted me were mafia. BOOM.

But that was a looooong game.

[hoshiro-]

I outed myself for 2 fucking reasons:
1- I wanted you guys to know damn sure that pass was the seer and that you should have fucking converted HIM to begin with instead of me at the time where I already was on thin water for defending Phil who turned out as vamp... And even then that wasn't mostly my intention... Even tho I assumed that u could use that info, get the seer and then chill afterwards.


And 2- most importantly, fucking pass the idiot wrote me on steam saying that "oh so you figured out who I am" after I was hinting that pass could have been seer, which I was only like 70 % sure of. So i had gained information from the fucktard that I SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD CONCLUSIVELY. And so I had to fucking REALLY make damn sure that this information that I got was available for everyone... To make it fucking fair.
(pass we talked about this and I was fucking pretty enraged that this accidental info sharing made me fucking out myself obviously because he could now use that info to see how I reacted to it, which isn't fair to me... And he realized that he fucked up)
so rather than getting both of us mod killed bcos of a fucking retarded mistake, I outed myself and just didn't even bother responding to the waggon which I was watching anyway.


Other than that, me being lynched has nothing to do with too much revealing info... That flavour downright outed everyone in the werewolves, especially u the alpha..
And what's worse is that it's not like it's random flavour, the mods KNOW the actions submitted, and they should have known that this information along with pass investigating u and the ever so lovely "master should I do? The I got this." *tried converting the guy watching him *... Like wtf mods? That shit was fucking too much...

U could have claimed being a cub, or that u got converted this fucking night or wtvr, he'll even hosh could have counter claimed in hopes that he gets killed instead of u but nway it was gg at that time since pass investigated YOU..


WHICH IS FUCKING WHY U SHOULD HAVE CONVERTDD PASS WHO WAS GIVING THE BIGGEST SEER VIBE FROM INSISTING ON PHIL...

I would have waited for another night and I was already voting ppl who I thought were ww (u, scribble) just so that I can use that info later...
Nway. Bg. The steak continues.


I was gonna claim alpha but Brett was already lynched before I saw it

[Trigger Unhappy]

Yeah... that would have done absolutley zero for you Hosh. GG everyone.

MVPs?

[Nemesis]

So I didn't follow along too closely, but did the issue come where WW didn't know doc protection would prevent conversion?

[Trigger Unhappy]

Yeah, basically. Just remove Cop with Faith Healer. The cyber stuff is completely removed from that though.

[brett friggin favre]

You wrote me telling me you were talking about the game outside of the game? When?

In fairness it could have been when your inbox was full, if that was the problem when you couldn't receive pm's at one point, but there are TWO mods, cyber.

[Sin]

He did contact me on Steam saying:

"when the monster mash game is over
im gonna tell you why i went ahead and literally made it obvious and outed myself in this setup
i just dont want to fuck things up for now. all is fine for now. i'll take the hit and I have personally informed someone to never do that shit again.
basically i went ahead and got myself lynched on purpose :D woot. peace now. talk talk later."

Obviously this was after Day 2.

Now I know you faggots chit chat and bullshit about the Mafia games in private, but with an honor system like this you really need to tone down the things that are said or else it's "Out of Game Influence" (OGI).

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i did write sin. no one replied and so i just said "fuck it, i got this"
and i then at L-1 i just lost interest

So this statement is bullshit.

[What]

From my point of view, I would have to say Trigger is mvp 1 with Passarelli 2nd.

Worst players go to the team of Mikey and Assassin, followed closely by Blackmage.


Also you cocksuckers will take two fucking weeks to do jack shit, then night lasts for more than 2 hours and I got you pussies bitching about in thread and in steam, for fucks sake, when it says night is 72 hours, you can start bitching after 72 hours, not before.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

From my point of view, I would have to say Trigger is mvp 1 with Passarelli 2nd.

Worst players go to the team of Mikey and Assassin, followed closely by Blackmage.


Also you cocksuckers will take two fucking weeks to do jack shit, then night lasts for more than 2 hours and I got you pussies bitching about in thread and in steam, for fucks sake, when it says night is 72 hours, you can start bitching after 72 hours, not before.

i disagree and called it. Put your petty bullshit aside and be honest. I dont give a fuck if you dislike me by i was far away from the worst player this game and you fucking know that.
I pinned blackmage as the roleblocker day one and knew that any action as the vig after assassin outed us would hurt town.

Assassin put me in a very difficult position and the only move i had was to be quick and make what are roles were confusing.

[Assassin]

From my point of view, I would have to say Trigger is mvp 1 with Passarelli 2nd.

Worst players go to the team of Mikey and Assassin, followed closely by Blackmage.


Also you cocksuckers will take two fucking weeks to do jack shit, then night lasts for more than 2 hours and I got you pussies bitching about in thread and in steam, for fucks sake, when it says night is 72 hours, you can start bitching after 72 hours, not before.

amazing how I always end up on those teams or am on that list. Oh well.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

amazing how I always end up on those teams are am on that list. Oh well.

you did nothing to help, you spread misinformation about my role which was wrong and you outted us as masons day 1.........
I could have easily handled that retarded disagreement with blackmage as it was obvious towards the end of it he was scum.

[Nemesis]

amazing how I always end up on those teams or am on that list. Oh well.

maybe it's because you're fucking terrible and have yet to show any improvement after so many games.

[What]

Mikey, you wasted everyone's time, were wrong about a lot, never admit your errors, misunderstood your role, and felt pass was lying when he outed Brett on the final day though the flavor made if very clear what happened. I love how if you suck, its me having a personal vendetta against you, not you being terrible at life. Yes assassin did fuck you guys over from the start, but you sure as shit brought nothing to the table.

And a dead hamster half sodomized by you during the wee hours of the morning could tell BM was the fucking head vampire, it was obvious at day 1, which is why he is also one of the worst players for the game as I said.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Mikey, you wasted everyone's time, were wrong about a lot, never admit your errors, misunderstood your role, and felt pass was lying when he outed Brett on the final day though the flavor made if very clear what happened. I love how if you suck, its me having a personal vendetta against you, not you being terrible at life. Yes assassin did fuck you guys over from the start, but you sure as shit brought nothing to the table.

And a dead hamster half sodomized by you during the wee hours of the morning could tell BM was the fucking head vampire, it was obvious at day 1, which is why he is also one of the worst players for the game as I said.

If you had read everything, i never thought pass was lying. I just did not want town to quick lynch like they did in my game.... the day lasted less than an hour because no one bothered to discuss information and be clear.
I was never confiused about my role... where the fuck are you getting that?

What errors did i make?

You are petty as fuck kid.

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[What]

lul lul lul Mikey, you are by far the most unfortunate idiot I have had the displeasure to know. The undeserved sense of smugness you have despite being one of the most ignorant, foolish, and just plain stupid people in existence.


Also, what in the holy fuck am I being petty about? What scenario or situation has passed into your fevered imagination that I would be jealous of anything about you?

[Blackmage]

Well, when the mods wouldn't answer questions about the game, the town was being retarded, and Vamps don't ever win this mod (Vamps had 3 in the original for a good reason) I mostly gave up. Also, grats to Mikey. Your WIFOM was correct.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

what was i wrong about? Stop being vauge so i can find and quote here to prove you are wrong and simply bashing me because you are petty.
for* not and*

[What]

Well, when the mods wouldn't answer questions about the game, the town was being retarded, and Vamps don't ever win this mod (Vamps had 3 in the original for a good reason) I mostly gave up. Also, grats to Mikey. Your WIFOM was correct.

You ask questions that we can not possibly answer in fairness to everyone else. You ask things like, "What would happen if i do this and this guy does that? What about if I do this and that happens?" OR my personal favorite, "What would the flavor text look like if X happens." We answered all of your questions that were reasonable and not obvious prodding for additional information you should not have.

[Blackmage]

Maybe other games. This game, I asked: "Second, does a dead converted player reveal what they used to be or not? If you cannot reveal this to me, can you say if this will ever change in future game, or will it be open knowledge after this game is complete?" Which SHOULD be open knowledge. It's how the role works. And "Converted player with an ally, do the allies know they've turned?" Telling players to figure out themselves things the MODS should do is god damn retarded.

[Sin]

A converted player is turned into a Feral Werewolf (covered in sign up thread).

A converted Feral werewolf loses all previous abilities including factional communication (covered in sign up thread).

[Blackmage]

Abilities does not mean role. Losing factional ability does not say WHEN the other finds out.

And that's why I asked ON DEATH.

[Nemesis]

I think we, as a whole, can come together and honestly say this is all Cyber's fault. Faggot.

[Sin]

If they're a Feral Werewolf, then they're a Feral Werwolf. Maybe I should have been more explicit, but I figured it would have been redundant information since under "Werewolf Cub" there is a "Feral Werewolf" in parenthesis

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I'd love to play this game myself tbh, if anyone wants to tweak the roles and if everyone can agree on it we should do it again.

[hoshiro-]

Yea. This set up was kinda fun. I would like to try it again

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

lul lul lul Mikey, you are by far the most unfortunate idiot I have had the displeasure to know. The undeserved sense of smugness you have despite being one of the most ignorant, foolish, and just plain stupid people in existence.


Also, what in the holy fuck am I being petty about? What scenario or situation has passed into your fevered imagination that I would be jealous of anything about you?

9 and 3 kid 9 and 3.

[BladeTwinSwords]

We can all agree that Cyber is a dirty faggot.

Mikey is......Mikey.

And hosh has no fucking clue what is going on.