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DJ_MikeyRevile
09-04-2014, 09:24 AM
You're like a child. You have to get the last word in.

How old are you?
12 in a half!

Assassin
09-04-2014, 10:00 AM
and a *

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-04-2014, 10:02 AM
and a *

No,in a*

minjae
09-04-2014, 11:28 AM
I just lol'ed the whole time. Mikey is always in the middle of everything hahahaha

But what Sin is saying makes sense. I also understand what Mikey is going towards. Just you guys apparently can't communicate.
Well to be fair, Sin makes perfect sense. Mikey isn't choosing the right words to say. Weird.

And as Sin said, NO ONE IS CLEAR!

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-04-2014, 11:29 AM
I just lol'ed the whole time. Mikey is always in the middle of everything hahahaha

But what Sin is saying makes sense. I also understand what Mikey is going towards. Just you guys apparently can't communicate.
Well to be fair, Sin makes perfect sense. Mikey isn't choosing the right words to say. Weird.

And as Sin said, NO ONE IS CLEAR!

U wann fight me?

minjae
09-04-2014, 11:48 AM
No thank you, sir.

Maybe some other time. :icon_mrgreen:

Assassin
09-04-2014, 12:23 PM
I'm actually clear. If you think otherwise, come at me bro.

Sin
09-04-2014, 12:25 PM
You're clear cuz you claimed Vengeful?

Hey guys I'm clear. I'm a VT. Herpderp.

Assassin
09-04-2014, 12:32 PM
You're clear cuz you claimed Vengeful?

Hey guys I'm clear. I'm a VT. Herpderp.

Lol like I said, come at me if you think differently. I'll get the last laugh.

minjae
09-04-2014, 12:33 PM
Oh you guys didn't get the memo?
We're all VT's. This is just some sick cruel joke trying to get all us, innocents, to kill each other.
DERP DERP~

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-04-2014, 12:46 PM
Phil, srop lurking so hard and fucking say somthing. We all know you dont have a post restriction that says you cant aay a single word.

Sin
09-04-2014, 12:53 PM
Why is that so hard to believe Mikey? Blade likes having stupid post restrictions in his games. I bet you Phil can't speak until Day 3. BET YOU!

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Actually actually... I bet you Phil's abilities in general don't kick in until Day 2 or 3. He didn't do SHIT Night 1.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-04-2014, 12:59 PM
Why is that so hard to believe Mikey? Blade likes having stupid post restrictions in his games. I bet you Phil can't speak until Day 3. BET YOU!

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Actually actually... I bet you Phil's abilities in general don't kick in until Day 2 or 3. He didn't do SHIT Night 1.
How the hell would you know if he did or did not use an ability n1?
Are you witholding information?

Sin
09-04-2014, 01:06 PM
Go Fish. Faggot.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-04-2014, 01:16 PM
Dem sin esp.
Hacks

StarsMine
09-04-2014, 02:32 PM
Go Fish. Faggot.

Have any jacks? How bout a 9? Could really use a 9

Sin
09-04-2014, 02:38 PM
Have any jacks? How bout a 9? Could really use a 9

Nigger you're dead. Shoo.

Sin
09-04-2014, 04:10 PM
Bump....

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-04-2014, 06:54 PM
Bump... again

CYBER
09-04-2014, 07:26 PM
I always thought you'd think of engineering when you think about germans...but i was wrong apparently, because according to blade, germans are better known for the OTHER prominent achievement field of study.

but hey, who am i to tell, i'm just an ignorant player learning constantly for 10 years so far.

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10 games *

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oh and mikey. stop spreading wrong info:

NO ONE IS 100% cleared.
you saying that "oh look i am a role cop and i said so outloud as a third party but pro town"... this doesnt CLEAR you from being a damn mafia stalker...
because mafia investigative roles haven't been rare recently...

i only said what blade told me about the possibility of including the role, this doesn't mean that u are anywhere pro town.

And the fact of the matter is, you got called out as a scum by stars right before he quoted a mod confirming it.
You pulled a "oh but im :
1- a role cop.
2- a third party survivor.
3- i have 2 vests...
4- own winning scenario.
...

all in 1 role... when knowing my own self, i find this a bit... too much for 1 fucking person...

For all we know u're a goddamn mafia stalker (same fucking thing as role cop mafia side), or even if u were third party, it doesn't mean u're actualyl with us but pro-your-own-interests...


SO NO:
thinking that you MIGHT be a mafia EVEN AT THIS POINT is not fucking STUPID.
A stupid person would be a person who actually believes a claim and just takes it to heart without ever being paranoid about.
as simple as that.

just my 2 cents about that whole "oh guys, stars said i was scum, but im totally pro town even tho im a third party cop with modifiers and shit, there's no way that stars caught me on first try and i was cornered and pulled a hail mary"...
FOS mikey ^

u see why i find your whole existence in this game overwhelming?

BladeTwinSwords
09-04-2014, 07:35 PM
Remember folks. PM me if you want a time limit.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-04-2014, 07:40 PM
I always thought you'd think of engineering when you think about germans...but i was wrong apparently, because according to blade, germans are better known for the OTHER prominent achievement field of study.

but hey, who am i to tell, i'm just an ignorant player learning constantly for 10 years so far.

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10 games *

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oh and mikey. stop spreading wrong info:

NO ONE IS 100% cleared.
you saying that "oh look i am a role cop and i said so outloud as a third party but pro town"... this doesnt CLEAR you from being a damn mafia stalker...
because mafia investigative roles haven't been rare recently...

i only said what blade told me about the possibility of including the role, this doesn't mean that u are anywhere pro town.

And the fact of the matter is, you got called out as a scum by stars right before he quoted a mod confirming it.
You pulled a "oh but im :
1- a role cop.
2- a third party survivor.
3- i have 2 vests...
4- own winning scenario.
...

all in 1 role... when knowing my own self, i find this a bit... too much for 1 fucking person...

For all we know u're a goddamn mafia stalker (same fucking thing as role cop mafia side), or even if u were third party, it doesn't mean u're actualyl with us but pro-your-own-interests...


SO NO:
thinking that you MIGHT be a mafia EVEN AT THIS POINT is not fucking STUPID.
A stupid person would be a person who actually believes a claim and just takes it to heart without ever being paranoid about.
as simple as that.

just my 2 cents about that whole "oh guys, stars said i was scum, but im totally pro town even tho im a third party cop with modifiers and shit, there's no way that stars caught me on first try and i was cornered and pulled a hail mary"...
FOS mikey ^

u see why i find your whole existence in this game overwhelming?

alot of your post is simply reiterating alot of whatm has already been said.

Second.. you just fossed a hard claimed third party.. are you.. wow.. just wow

Lastly.. you honestly doubt my claim that much? If so, that would mean that during N1, i formulated a plan and do all of those things ... then to hard claim an anti town role.. instead of saying.. something like OH im role cop and must have been bussed with someone yadda yadda.. listen to how farfetched you sound.

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my overall point is.. that by being so confident that im lying.. would imply that you actually think i have the smarts and intelligence to execute a masterful plan like that.

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also, have you forgotten that im fucking hit?

CYBER
09-04-2014, 07:48 PM
Remember folks. PM me if you want a time limit.

no. fuck no.
Deadlines and/or Policy lynch is never a fucking good idea for town.

EVER.

I am the one with the most to lose because i have the most votes on me (because some people are too dense to understand that all i have been trying to do this game and be a good townie and help those in needd of information.),

and i am telling you that forcing a deadline with a possibly mod kill (after another one already happening) will screw town over.
never EVER a good idea.

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alot of your post is simply reiterating alot of whatm has already been said.

Second.. you just fossed a hard claimed third party.. are you.. wow.. just wow

Lastly.. you honestly doubt my claim that much? If so, that would mean that during N1, i formulated a plan and do all of those things ... then to hard claim an anti town role.. instead of saying.. something like OH im role cop and must have been bussed with someone yadda yadda.. listen to how farfetched you sound.

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my overall point is.. that by being so confident that im lying.. would imply that you actually think i have the smarts and intelligence to execute a masterful plan like that.

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also, have you forgotten that im fucking hit?



because when stars quoted the mod, it SPECIFICALLY said that "MIKEY was anti-town"
it didn't say "You investigations (whoever the fuck it was) was anti town.

So the possibility of u being bus'd and blade making a mod mistake of specifically naming a target that has been bus'd is VERY VERY minimal.


So when u got called out as being an anti town, what are u gonna do? oh let me say that "i am still pro town and my winning scenario is with town because i'm a survivor role cop. "


yes, because anti-towns claiming survivor after being investigated as guilty... yeah, that has NEEEEEVER happened in our games.
and yes, i am FOS you, not an FOS as "oh i don't think he's town".
but an FOS as "his claim of being third party, im not buying it"

FINGER. OF.FUCKING. SUSPICION.
I can suspect whatever the fuck i want with ur statements or identity.

And you HARD CLAIMING role cop third party means jack shit without being proven... your word means nothing, just as much as me hard claiming roleblocker last game meant nothing.
You used brett to fortify that u have an investigation role, fine i get it, u have an investigation role. i won't argue this for now.
The same way i used nemesis to fortify that i had a roleblocker ability because a good lie is a lie that is based around the truth.

Your whole post about being a good guy, and investigating brett and knowing what he is blah blah... all this points to u being investigative ... FINE. i don't give a flying fuck. what matters is that are u for town's benefit or not. as simple as that.

And right now, whether you are a third party or mafia, you're not.
Because EVEN if u decide to give us a few tidbits to survive a couple days, what makes us think that u wouldn't start BSing at some point to get someone else killed so that u survive longer and screw town over bcos u wanna solo win?

And again, all this is assuming u are a third party survivor cop... with 2 vests... and his own winning condition -.- ...

wouldn't it be just as simple to say " u are mafia stalker that got called out as anti town by mod quote SPECIFICALLY naming YOU in the quote, and u are BSing out of ur ass with the survivor shit?

when u could simply be a mafia stalker with a 1 or 2 shot night death that got called out? like how "I" was in the last game? with the roleblocker and 1 shoot immunity? mmmm???)

Blackmage
09-04-2014, 08:09 PM
Encryptor. Just saying.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-04-2014, 08:39 PM
no. fuck no.
Deadlines and/or Policy lynch is never a fucking good idea for town.

EVER.

I am the one with the most to lose because i have the most votes on me (because some people are too dense to understand that all i have been trying to do this game and be a good townie and help those in needd of information.),

and i am telling you that forcing a deadline with a possibly mod kill (after another one already happening) will screw town over.
never EVER a good idea.

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because when stars quoted the mod, it SPECIFICALLY said that "MIKEY was anti-town"
it didn't say "You investigations (whoever the fuck it was) was anti town.

So the possibility of u being bus'd and blade making a mod mistake of specifically naming a target that has been bus'd is VERY VERY minimal.


So when u got called out as being an anti town, what are u gonna do? oh let me say that "i am still pro town and my winning scenario is with town because i'm a survivor role cop. "


yes, because anti-towns claiming survivor after being investigated as guilty... yeah, that has NEEEEEVER happened in our games.
and yes, i am FOS you, not an FOS as "oh i don't think he's town".
but an FOS as "his claim of being third party, im not buying it"

FINGER. OF.FUCKING. SUSPICION.
I can suspect whatever the fuck i want with ur statements or identity.

And you HARD CLAIMING role cop third party means jack shit without being proven... your word means nothing, just as much as me hard claiming roleblocker last game meant nothing.
You used brett to fortify that u have an investigation role, fine i get it, u have an investigation role. i won't argue this for now.
The same way i used nemesis to fortify that i had a roleblocker ability because a good lie is a lie that is based around the truth.

Your whole post about being a good guy, and investigating brett and knowing what he is blah blah... all this points to u being investigative ... FINE. i don't give a flying fuck. what matters is that are u for town's benefit or not. as simple as that.

And right now, whether you are a third party or mafia, you're not.
Because EVEN if u decide to give us a few tidbits to survive a couple days, what makes us think that u wouldn't start BSing at some point to get someone else killed so that u survive longer and screw town over bcos u wanna solo win?

And again, all this is assuming u are a third party survivor cop... with 2 vests... and his own winning condition -.- ...

wouldn't it be just as simple to say " u are mafia stalker that got called out as anti town by mod quote SPECIFICALLY naming YOU in the quote, and u are BSing out of ur ass with the survivor shit?

when u could simply be a mafia stalker with a 1 or 2 shot night death that got called out? like how "I" was in the last game? with the roleblocker and 1 shoot immunity? mmmm???)

First... third parties have a separate win condition. That point of yours is invalid.
Second... The only way to prove anything, is to out bretts role. I will not do this and brett understands why.
third... your first part makes 0 sense. If i was mafia, i would have claimed being bussed, thus explaining why his investigation came up anti town. You want to nit pick how another mod does pm flavor? Perhaps we ask blade personally.
fourth... if you took as much time as you spend writing those fucking messy posts... and spent it on actually reading the thread. You would know that im trying to be as transparent as fuck. Why? Because lynching me today would hurt town, regardless if im third party. It has notbhing to do with my role, me being third party, or me personally. It has everything to do with the number of players in the game and how the mafia know plenty of people who dont have vests, to actually land a kill tonight.

You are dead wrong on all of your accounts, and if lynching me makes you feel better, i will gladly prove to you, just how bad you really are.

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laslty, i was fucking hit... why the fuck would mafia shoot there partner? Like.. your logic is killing off several of my braincells.

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and before you even "speculate" me being a "traitor... IF I WAS A TRAITOR.. id be a role cop traitor with 2 vests and a separate win condition.. this is even more ridiculous then what you are saying.

hoshiro-
09-04-2014, 10:04 PM
So either Mikey is telling the truth, or this is just an elaborate plan by the mafias to take cyber out which would explain the no deaths on night 1 so Mikey can pretend to be "hit"

Passarelli
09-04-2014, 10:36 PM
Did anyone receive any gifts or weapons? It's okay to out this btw.

Sin, this is how I know there is a cockblocker in play. I tried to share a strawberry daiquiri with him and he didn't say he got anything. I'm going to do my best to get into Assassin's pants tonight. Hopefully he is just vengeful and not a pgo.

Actually, I thought this was interesting:

Claiming Vengeful Townie is not advised (unless your actual role is Vengeful and Mafia-aligned). The effect of giving its faction a bonus kill is useless unless you yourself are worth lynching - otherwise it's obviously more profitable to lynch the player you would Vengefully kill while leaving you alive. Thus, Vengeful claims under duress are seen as grounds for a policy lynch.

On second thought, maybe I'll try to cuddles with you Sin.

Everyone I've chosen so far has done something pretty scummy and I'm running out of viable people to try to share my love with. Q.Q


Phil really does need to say something.

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Well, Brett didn't do something scummy, but I'd rather not chance messing with a Bus. They are scum more often than not.

Trigger Unhappy
09-04-2014, 11:32 PM
Sin, this is how I know there is a cockblocker in play. I tried to share a strawberry daiquiri with him and he didn't say he got anything. I'm going to do my best to get into Assassin's pants tonight. Hopefully he is just vengeful and not a pgo.

Actually, I thought this was interesting:


On second thought, maybe I'll try to cuddles with you Sin.

Everyone I've chosen so far has done something pretty scummy and I'm running out of viable people to try to share my love with. Q.Q


Phil really does need to say something.

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Well, Brett didn't do something scummy, but I'd rather not chance messing with a Bus. They are scum more often than not.


Some pretty dark shit it's goin on pass... Fucking sorcery

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Anyone watching beast mode wreck the packers? It's like they aren't even there

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Encryptor. Just saying.

Anyone know what this means?

Assassin
09-05-2014, 06:13 AM
Some pretty dark shit it's goin on pass... Fucking sorcery

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Anyone watching beast mode wreck the packers? It's like they aren't even there

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Anyone know what this means?

No idea and pass if you wanna come snuggle, come snuggle. I won't hurt you.

Sin
09-05-2014, 06:15 AM
Blackmage I you bringing up Cyber cheating a few games ago?

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Are you*

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 06:27 AM
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Encryptor

Sin
09-05-2014, 06:41 AM
Sigh. Daytalk is retarded unless it is known ahead of time.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 06:48 AM
Agreed. It is much more likley phil has what you described awhile back.

I think, at least at this point, we refrain from baseless speculation.

Sin
09-05-2014, 06:54 AM
I'm not getting a scum read from Cyber tbh, but we've revealed too much on DAY 1.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 07:46 AM
I'm not getting a scum read from Cyber tbh, but we've revealed too much on DAY 1.

I dont know, im getting a doctor vibe from him but I dont like his responses. They are meh.

Sin
09-05-2014, 08:50 AM
You're an idiot and focus on META more than Cyber does which is impressive.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 08:54 AM
You're an idiot and focus on META more than Cyber does which is impressive.

That is not true and I am not using meta when interpreting what he has said so far. It is a jumbled mess of reiteration. Go and re-read that shit. Town or not, it hurts the brain and makes very little sense.

Sin
09-05-2014, 09:02 AM
He's just reiterating what's been said already. Bringing nothing new to the table, but that's what everyone is doing. You've been tunneling cyber since early day 1 BECAUSE of meta, so if you're going to use his french speak to drive a lynch on him you might as well focus everyone else as well.

What's funny is you even admit to having a town read (protective role no less) on him and yet you're still pushing for a lynch (your vote hasn't budged).

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 09:10 AM
He's just reiterating what's been said already. Bringing nothing new to the table, but that's what everyone is doing. You've been tunneling cyber since early day 1 BECAUSE of meta, so if you're going to use his french speak to drive a lynch on him you might as well focus everyone else as well.

What's funny is you even admit to having a town read (protective role no less) on him and yet you're still pushing for a lynch (your vote hasn't budged).
Im not pushing for a lynch and my vote will change when town comes to a conclusion on who to vote for. I would lead but I cant given the current circumstance. Cyber softed, despite adding nothing. If we have a diffrent suspect, im game.

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The only other person im highly suspicous of is hosh. Ill find his post and explain why in a minute.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 09:36 AM
I retracta the hosh thing, after re reading, nothing he has do e warrants further suspicion. I think everyone ahould read from the begining of the day and out who they find the most suspicious.

hoshiro-
09-05-2014, 10:25 AM
Right now I just really wanna hear from Phil, other than that I find Minj the most suspicious one for reasons I will withold to myself

Assassin
09-05-2014, 10:31 AM
I really don't think Phil can speak. At least not until we move forward a day or something. We could just lynch him and find out though.

Sin
09-05-2014, 11:14 AM
I do not condone lynching Phil.

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I believe his role is being played as intended.

Trigger Unhappy
09-05-2014, 11:15 AM
I do not condone lynching Phil.

What about shooting him?

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 11:24 AM
What about shooting him?
Who has a gun aside from mafia and assassin?

Hosh... if you have information, you should share it and end this gridlock.

StarsMine
09-05-2014, 11:27 AM
I did... that I was probably going to use on you till you said you had a vest... So I had to be drastic.
Damn you mikey, damn you.

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Trigger Unhappy
09-05-2014, 11:32 AM
Who has a gun aside from mafia and assassin?

Hosh... if you have information, you should share it and end this gridlock.

I guess i'm hoping there is a gunsmith. And I wanted to know if we think phil is town sided or if we think he is a fool/jester. important distinction.

Also yes Hosh, if you have some information please share it so we can get through this. Otherwise I'm slightly inclined to vote for you.

Assassin
09-05-2014, 11:41 AM
Yeah unfortunatley, mine is a one trick pony.

Sin
09-05-2014, 11:44 AM
Doesn't matter what we believe phil to be, as it's completely speculation. I just don't think it wise to "policy" lynch him over let's say Assassin, for outing his vengeful role.

Sin
09-05-2014, 12:12 PM
Something I just realized, Mikey you will most likely be roleblocked the entirety of the game from here on out if the RB is mafia-aligned. Good luck getting all of that WONDERFUL information for town.

They can shut you down completely, you'll just be another townie with a vest.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 12:14 PM
Something I just realized, Mikey you will most likely be roleblocked the entirety of the game from here on out if the RB is mafia-aligned. Good luck getting all of that WONDERFUL information for town.

They can shut you down completely, you'll just be another townie with a vest.

Meh, only of the role blocker is mafia aligned. Why bring it up? Now they know to do it.

Sin
09-05-2014, 12:17 PM
It's information/strategy that all of us need to be made aware of. Even if it was minjae as Mafia RB you think he'd be dumb enough not to block you? Don't be naive.

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My point is, you're useless to us.

minjae
09-05-2014, 12:19 PM
Right now I just really wanna hear from Phil, other than that I find Minj the most suspicious one for reasons I will withold to myself

Please do share Mr. Hosh, sir.
I have no idea why tho, but mmkay.

Anyways for now, Phil is just there. No reason to lynch someone for no reason. Well I guess for a reason, but it's not justified. We don't even know if he's anti-town/scum/mafia or not.

Also, Starsmine. Stop posting!! You're dead!!

Sin
09-05-2014, 12:19 PM
Scratch that you're only good to us for a role block target. So technically not useless. We'll keep you.

UNVOTE

minjae
09-05-2014, 12:23 PM
It's information/strategy that all of us need to be made aware of. Even if it was minjae as Mafia RB you think he'd be dumb enough not to block you? Don't be naive.

Wait....what?! Why is my name in there? LOL Why not someone else...? -_-
I didn't even realize my name was in there until I reread it puhaha.

And we do need to be made aware of this strategy. So we could work around it.

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Scratch that you're only good to us for a role block target. So technically not useless. We'll keep you.

I lol'ed

Sin
09-05-2014, 12:27 PM
Like I've said in previous games. This is a game of chess. We need to know the potential moves of the mafia so we can counter them. Why you questioned it Mikey is hardly a towntell, but we already know you're evil, so...

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 12:31 PM
Like I've said in previous games. This is a game of chess. We need to know the potential moves of the mafia so we can counter them. Why you questioned it Mikey is hardly a towntell, but we already know you're evil, so...

Racist. Jews are not evil.

Assassin
09-05-2014, 12:41 PM
Why? If i get capped so does someone else..if not i get tto town vote for the game

Blackmage
09-05-2014, 12:47 PM
I don't trust Mikey. He told us he wins at the sixth day. Now, either he's telling us the truth, given us information we would never get, and I can't trust his judgement, or he's lying to us. Plus, he's claimed a survivor, and a survivor is always suspect.

I will not trust Brett based solely upon Mikey's claim. Being clear by a 3rd party is never certain, and with my assesment of the person who cleared him, I have no reason to trust Brett.

Assassin has outted as a Vengeful with not even a vote on him.

Our current wagon is on Cyber, who refuses to claim. However, his voters are the above three and Pass.

So, my question is, do we want to push Cyber further and see if we can get something, or push someone else? I'm looking at Brett. Finding out what he is would give us his reasoning to push Cyber, let us know if we really do have an anti town role cop, as well as some other incidental information.

Hosh wants us to vote for Minj, but with no information, and also didn't actually vote for him.

Sin
09-05-2014, 12:51 PM
Mikey only claimed that Brett's role is "likely town". Which doesn't mean much as this is a role madness game and his role obviously cannot be Vanilla Townie.

I didn't want to push on Brett as we've already let out WAAAAY Too much information on roles in DAY 1. I'd say this has been the most revealing Day 1 of any game ever played on IBIS, short of Mass claiming.

Blackmage
09-05-2014, 12:55 PM
So, who do we push for so we don't reveal anything? Mikey or Assassin?

Sin
09-05-2014, 12:57 PM
I'd rather leave Mikey and Assassin alive, but I'd be cool with lynching Blackmage guys.

Blackmage
09-05-2014, 12:59 PM
Ok, would you stop contradicting yourself, please. Either we want more information on the table or we don't.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 01:02 PM
So, who do we push for so we don't reveal anything? Mikey or Assassin?

I sorta almost threw brett under the bus already. ... go read back and you will understand why. Read my post where I say that this game is going to be a cluster fuck of information. Pretty sure sin figured it out.
Im a third party cop, stars had onlt a 1 shot investigation.

Blackmage
09-05-2014, 01:09 PM
I understand why. However, the problem lies in the fact that: "I don't trust Mikey." If I could trust you and Brett, I'd agree. However, the problem lies in the fact that I can't. Until we can get a hardclaim from Brett, or someone else corroborating your claims, all I have is piss in the wind.

hoshiro-
09-05-2014, 03:11 PM
I don't trust Mikey. He told us he wins at the sixth day. Now, either he's telling us the truth, given us information we would never get, and I can't trust his judgement, or he's lying to us. Plus, he's claimed a survivor, and a survivor is always suspect.

I will not trust Brett based solely upon Mikey's claim. Being clear by a 3rd party is never certain, and with my assesment of the person who cleared him, I have no reason to trust Brett.

Assassin has outted as a Vengeful with not even a vote on him.

Our current wagon is on Cyber, who refuses to claim. However, his voters are the above three and Pass.

So, my question is, do we want to push Cyber further and see if we can get something, or push someone else? I'm looking at Brett. Finding out what he is would give us his reasoning to push Cyber, let us know if we really do have an anti town role cop, as well as some other incidental information.

Hosh wants us to vote for Minj, but with no information, and also didn't actually vote for him.

Whoa there BM, aren't you exaggerating here? When did I ever say I wanted you guys to try and lynch Minj. I just said he was suspicious. Trying to make me seem scummy here? I think it's making you seem like scum instead

Trigger Unhappy
09-05-2014, 03:20 PM
Do you guys want to draw fucking straws???

I'm just going with my gut now, since people dont want to vote for Mikey.

unvote

Vote Minjae

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 03:25 PM
Do you guys want to draw fucking straws???

I'm just going with my gut now, since people dont want to vote for Mikey.

unvote

Vote Minjae

Are you pissed that I didnt die when you shot me?
Or perhaps your choosing to neglect all the very obvious reasons why I should be left alive right now?
Selective reading is scum play.

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Also, minjae does seem scummy. Reread the thread and pay attention to his posts.

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Or we could... use a genuine tactic from em and..... lynch the fucking no avis! No avis must die!

minjae
09-05-2014, 03:46 PM
Hm..weird. I dunno why I'm scummy in almost every game O.O

I don't think minjae seemed scummy at all...But hey, not trying to be biased.

But on a real note, FOS's can be taken as scum play too. Whether it's "gut" or "re-reading posts".
Just pointing it out.

Looks like this is gonna be a looooooooong d1.

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What's no avis?

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 03:49 PM
Hm..weird. I dunno why I'm scummy in almost every game O.O

I don't think minjae seemed scummy at all...But hey, not trying to be biased.

But on a real note, FOS's can be taken as scum play too. Whether it's "gut" or "re-reading posts".
Just pointing it out.

Looks like this is gonna be a looooooooong d1.

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What's no avis?

It might have something to do with ... im not really sure. Behind your screen I see a blonde woman.

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Its a saying used to describe player who dont have an avatar. Not having an avatar generally means one of two things outside of our games. 1. Its a noob player. 2. Its a fresh alt in game to troll.

minjae
09-05-2014, 03:50 PM
CLOSE. It's a brunette. But it's not behind my screen. It's on my screen.

SCRIBBLE
09-05-2014, 05:45 PM
Now, either he's telling us the truth .... or he's lying to us.

Yeah, no shit.

I think we should focus on what info people have been willing to give us and weigh the consequences of lynching one of those who have provided that info. I will have more time to go further in depth but so far we the following providing information:

1. Mikey
2. Cyber
3. Brett
4. Assassin

Whether they are telling the truth or not, they can not all be vital roles to town and at least one of them is most likely scum. Mikey was quick out of the gates, Brett is treading lightly, Cyber seems to be ignoring several claims against him but is not trying to shift the attention away from himself, and Assassin claimed way too early for his claimed role.

brett friggin favre
09-05-2014, 06:54 PM
Yeah, no shit.

I think we should focus on what info people have been willing to give us and weigh the consequences of lynching one of those who have provided that info. I will have more time to go further in depth but so far we the following providing information:

1. Mikey
2. Cyber
3. Brett
4. Assassin

Whether they are telling the truth or not, they can not all be vital roles to town and at least one of them is most likely scum. Mikey was quick out of the gates, Brett is treading lightly, Cyber seems to be ignoring several claims against him but is not trying to shift the attention away from himself, and Assassin claimed way too early for his claimed role.

assuming all roles are true, you'd probably lose less by lynching me. but don't do that.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 07:01 PM
assuming all roles are true, you'd probably lose less by lynching me. but don't do that.

additionally, id take assassin out as well. The retard said he would kill me. If he is town aligned and kills me, its pretty much auto for mafia. Assuming they target a player without a vest. Seeing as how just about everyone claimed whether or not they have a vest.. mafia is doing alright in that department..

brett friggin favre
09-05-2014, 07:15 PM
additionally, id take assassin out as well. The retard said he would kill me. If he is town aligned and kills me, its pretty much auto for mafia. Assuming they target a player without a vest. Seeing as how just about everyone claimed whether or not they have a vest.. mafia is doing alright in that department..

They still have to figure out who's legit, who's bsing, and who's withholding. Surely vest claims came to avoid being obvious targets, and some are withholding to bait mafia into wasting a kill attempt on them

hoshiro-
09-05-2014, 08:25 PM
I think we should refrain from giving out anymore information than necessary otherwise it will be too easy for mafia to kill us

Assassin
09-05-2014, 08:44 PM
I think we should refrain from giving out anymore information than necessary otherwise it will be too easy for mafia to kill us
Good idea but why would mikey want to cap me? Oh bc the rest of his bulletproof vests mean shit. If i had another more likely target btw ..i would obv choose them

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-05-2014, 08:48 PM
Good idea but why would mikey want to cap me? Oh bc the rest of his bulletproof vests mean shit. If i had another more likely target btw ..i would obv choose them

l2 read kid. I said the complete opposite. I DONT want you to die because you appear to be determined to shoot me. If you do, you can kiss a town win goodbye. You can shoot me after we kill at least 1 mafia.

Passarelli
09-05-2014, 11:02 PM
My current reads as requested:

At the moment, I'm seeing Assassin and his super early vengeful claim as the most scummy. He didn't even read the wiki entry for his role and claimed after minimal pressure from one source.

Brett can go either way with his role.

Minjae seems to be acting pretty overtly scummy, maybe to avoid a night kill. Not sure if he figured out how to play and has a investigative role/protective role of if he is actually scum.

Hosh is being Hosh. If he has some information though, he should out it unless he feels it could be unreliable/paint a target on his back too early.

Mikey declares himself town sided very often and already came up as scum. However, as long as he continues to give accurate investigations it'd be worth keeping him around until end game. If he is lying and isn't a role cop (godfather or roleblocker) that means Brett is scum. I find that somewhat unlikely that they'd have taken that risk this early on.

Cyber isn't saying anything new and is changing his playstyle so I can't read him as well which is why I'm still suspicious of him. Send me those secret butt buddy messages so I can trust you! I got something in my pants I'd love to share with you <3

Trigger seems to be pushing on Mikey even though at the moment it is still beneficial for town to keep him around.

Blackmage has been pretty quiet even though there is a plethera of information for him to organize and analyze which is generally his specialty.

Scribbles is very quiet also.

Phil's smell must be getting to himself now--so much so that he can't open his mouth or he'd taste straight asshole.


Sin is the only person I feel I can trust so far.

Trigger Unhappy
09-06-2014, 12:00 AM
Pass did you catch my hint??

Passarelli
09-06-2014, 12:10 AM
I did not. Was it earlier or pretty recent? There were a few magic words that stuck out at me, but I'm not positive.

Trigger Unhappy
09-06-2014, 12:44 AM
I dont really post that much. But you should be sure of yourself.

Passarelli
09-06-2014, 01:03 AM
Roger roger.

Just waiting oh Hosh to respond now I guess?

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-06-2014, 01:03 AM
I dont really post that much. But you should be sure of yourself.

soooo.. your a black gunsmith....
we dont need soft claims right now, we need results.

CYBER
09-06-2014, 02:03 AM
l2 read kid. I said the complete opposite. I DONT want you to die because you appear to be determined to shoot me. If you do, you can kiss a town win goodbye.





You can shoot me after we kill at least 1 mafia.


this last statement is bothering me...
As a survivor, u said you can JOINT win with town, right?

Even trying to defend against assassin's eagerness to vengeful shoot u (if that's what he really is), I still find it a bit "scummy" (couldn't find a less dramatic word) for you to ask to be killed LATER than to convince him that you can joint win with town...
This just feels like a mafia guy trying to convince another to postpone their inevitable death in order to do more damage, than the other alternative.


Again, don't immediately jump on your angry horse, it's just a speculation regarding your response that bugged me. A simple explanation to what your plans regarding this game are.

I know you have stated before that you want to give as much info to town before your day 6 solo win... but it just feels like we're being spoon fed good news about you in this game as if there's no bad shit that couldn't happen in leaving you around longer.

EVEN IF you are a third party survivor role cop... (i still don't like this but i digress), then what makes us think your win is actually on the 6th day and not before?

Right now i think someone soft claimed another investigation role, and i'd much rather Backing THEM up over you... and no it's not because you're mikey and i'm holding a grudge (bcos u started it this game...), but because i'd much rather support an investigation role that is actually pro town, rather than a third party wild card, like yourself. (again, assuming if you aren't BSing the entire third party crap...)

Blackmage
09-06-2014, 02:07 AM
Blackmage has been pretty quiet even though there is a plethera of information for him to organize and analyze which is generally his specialty.


Yes, there's a lot of information out there right now. I have a nice text document keeping track of it. What it adds up to is, to quote spaceballs, We ain't found shit. No one has a great target, no one is certain of much. We have to decide who we trust and who to push. I've said my opinion on this, and have my vote placed.

We know only two things. One is that there was no night kill, the other is that we found scum, who talked us out of lynching him. We have a lot of assumptions, and a lot of conditional information.

However, I've thought of a question, mostly directed at Cyber, and somewhat at Brett, but also for anyone else who wants to answer. How directly are your role and your flavour connected? I can see how stars was connected, and sort of see how Mikey's is if I squint, and my own, requires some imagination, or seeing the flavour text, to understand.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-06-2014, 02:38 AM
this last statement is bothering me...
As a survivor, u said you can JOINT win with town, right?

Even trying to defend against assassin's eagerness to vengeful shoot u (if that's what he really is), I still find it a bit "scummy" (couldn't find a less dramatic word) for you to ask to be killed LATER than to convince him that you can joint win with town...
This just feels like a mafia guy trying to convince another to postpone their inevitable death in order to do more damage, than the other alternative.


Again, don't immediately jump on your angry horse, it's just a speculation regarding your response that bugged me. A simple explanation to what your plans regarding this game are.

I know you have stated before that you want to give as much info to town before your day 6 solo win... but it just feels like we're being spoon fed good news about you in this game as if there's no bad shit that couldn't happen in leaving you around longer.

EVEN IF you are a third party survivor role cop... (i still don't like this but i digress), then what makes us think your win is actually on the 6th day and not before?

Right now i think someone soft claimed another investigation role, and i'd much rather Backing THEM up over you... and no it's not because you're mikey and i'm holding a grudge (bcos u started it this game...), but because i'd much rather support an investigation role that is actually pro town, rather than a third party wild card, like yourself. (again, assuming if you aren't BSing the entire third party crap...)

The reason i have stated that and have played a town sided game as third party so far (note the transparency) is because we have a large population of new people. People who will learn from games better (with feedback) if they win. The "being salty" aspect in humans is nasty and i want the new players to gain something from this game. ask anyone who spends time in my mumble, i bitch about how our recent games dont teach a damn fucking thing. Wining games has a carry over effect that makes people learn more efficiently... because they won! Especially if a play they made resulted in the win!

Im very drunk atm, ill continue reading the rest of your post and whatever was posted after now.

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cyber, your second section of your post, please note the above.

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your third part, cyber. You dont, you simply trust me as i have been as transparent as possible. I dont care if i lose, however.. i know the following things. If i die before a singular mafia is dead, town will lose. So long as no more town die and a mafia is killed, i will take my death willingly. Ill even vote for myself. (reason is posted above this)

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If you think somebody just claimed an investgation role and i missed it. You need to out there name right now, as they are scum. I promise.
Starsmine is dead and i can tell you now that 2 investigations will happen this coming night if neither of the investigative roles are roleblocked.

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Yes, there's a lot of information out there right now. I have a nice text document keeping track of it. What it adds up to is, to quote spaceballs, We ain't found shit. No one has a great target, no one is certain of much. We have to decide who we trust and who to push. I've said my opinion on this, and have my vote placed.

We know only two things. One is that there was no night kill, the other is that we found scum, who talked us out of lynching him. We have a lot of assumptions, and a lot of conditional information.

However, I've thought of a question, mostly directed at Cyber, and somewhat at Brett, but also for anyone else who wants to answer. How directly are your role and your flavour connected? I can see how stars was connected, and sort of see how Mikey's is if I squint, and my own, requires some imagination, or seeing the flavour text, to understand.

my flavor is connected through how jews in america are stereotyped. Independent and all about the money.

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i am not looking out for my personal intrests when i say this. If i die before scum does, town will lose.
Take advantage of my vest and the fact that im an outted cop who will most likley be roleblocked.

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inb4 the questions. Id be willing to take the lynch .. had a townie not already died before the first day phase was over....

#dontforgetstars

Blackmage
09-06-2014, 02:51 AM
Yeah, that's related to your 3rd party and win con. However, I meant your Role Cop. If I said "Jew mafia role" wouldn't something like "hated" or "hider" be more likely to come to mind that "role cop"? So, you could have claimed "Jew" without outting your actual role. THAT was the point.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-06-2014, 03:19 AM
Yeah, that's related to your 3rd party and win con. However, I meant your Role Cop. If I said "Jew mafia role" wouldn't something like "hated" or "hider" be more likely to come to mind that "role cop"? So, you could have claimed "Jew" without outting your actual role. THAT was the point.

That dosnt explain how i have a cache full mof information i have yet to reveal. AKA bretts role.

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and actually, it is all related to my claim.

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no, if you knew anything about manipulating stocks and money making is business format, you would understand that what you just proposed is asinine. (given the flavor and real life context provided to flavor names)

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in business*

Blackmage
09-06-2014, 03:21 AM
Um, I'm not sure what you're rambling about, but I'm 99.99% sure it's not related to anything I'm talking about.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-06-2014, 03:27 AM
at the end of the day, nothing anyone throws at me is credited until a mafia dies. As third party, i hold a valuable advantage over towns enemy, mafia.
if 3 town are left and 3 mafia are left and i am off to the side, alive. Neither die wins, due to my win condition. Therefore, it is wise to keep me in play tell you hit mafia. Otherwise, you can pretty much give this game to mafia.

(this is not defense. This is me being preee drunk atm and clarifying any posts i made while drunk.)

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hmm blackmage, you are deflecting like in the other game when you got shut down. I will quote each section of post because you have a hard time understanding it.

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Yeah, that's related to your 3rd party and win con.
You said this. A full sentence! What exactly you were replying too? im not sure, please refine your response. Stop being scummy vague.

the rest of your post is opinion, based off your interpretation of the jew stereotype.

Blackmage
09-06-2014, 03:29 AM
Ah, you just decided to meta into the other game. Cheers, you'll get your response in the morning.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-06-2014, 03:32 AM
your response to me was challenging. I responded with MY interpretation of a stereotype.. which appears to be your only talking point......interpretation.

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i didnt "meta" into a game. However, if you want meta? i will throw some at you. You are playing completley diffrent then the rest of the games you have partook in. (as pass pointed out)
You choose not to argue with me after i attempted to recreat the stupid argument you started in the last game.


This meta raises questions.

What you thought was meta? laughable.

Passarelli
09-06-2014, 08:40 AM
Blackmage, my flavor and role are obvious when you know them, but I couldn't just claim one or the other.

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Err, I mean I could claim the one but I might as well claim the other. I couldn't claim my flavor and you know my role. I came out of the closet since I had useful information for town. Now I'm just having fun with it ^_^

brett friggin favre
09-06-2014, 11:27 AM
My role and flavor are maybe a little related if you squint really hard...I dunno it kinda felt like a stretch to me

Blackmage
09-06-2014, 12:56 PM
First, my flavour is Swiss. Next, I intended to hold of making a large post till later, but here goes.

Let's look at the evolution of Mikey's role. He begins by softing basically everything he later claims, except being anti town. He early on says he has more than one vest. After Stars, the information just started flowing. Hards at least another vest, no night kill. Third party who wants town to win (LIE, though I don't think he realizes this). Third party role cop with bretts role. Jew role cop. Survivor win con. Solo win con.

Of this, I trust he's Jew, and knows Brett's role.

Now, let's look how he's played up his role. Saying lynching him is bad, ignoring he's anti-town. (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12649-Blade-s-Stereotyping-Mafia-Game!?p=187788#post187788) Claiming he's helpful to town when he's already outted Brett. (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12649-Blade-s-Stereotyping-Mafia-Game!?p=187848#post187848) Calling himself a cop instead of a 3rd party role cop. (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12649-Blade-s-Stereotyping-Mafia-Game!?p=187859#post187859) Given one gives information on side and the other outs players, and is scum, the distinction seems relevant. Claiming that having lost a townie he's somehow MORE important. (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12649-Blade-s-Stereotyping-Mafia-Game!?p=187863#post187863) This post leads to the first meta part. (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12649-Blade-s-Stereotyping-Mafia-Game!?p=188014#post188014) Says he would have been required to have created the plan ready beforehand. First, if he's on a team, it wouldn't have been just him. Second, he knows from the Santa game how encrpytor works. A few errors here, but the main one is the fourth point. (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12649-Blade-s-Stereotyping-Mafia-Game!?p=188019#post188019) The only way that would be true is if we're at MYLO. The only way to know we're at MYLO would require him to be mafia. Claiming there's no reason to lynch an anti-town, who, by his own admission, has thrown Brett under the bus, which means he's also been harmful to the town. (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12649-Blade-s-Stereotyping-Mafia-Game!?p=188104#post188104) Suggesting killing him is an auto loss for the town again. (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12649-Blade-s-Stereotyping-Mafia-Game!?p=188111#post188111)

He's said he's being transparent, but the reason for keeping him alive is smoke and mirrors. From this post (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12649-Blade-s-Stereotyping-Mafia-Game!?p=188149#post188149) "at the end of the day, nothing anyone throws at me is credited until a mafia dies. As third party, i hold a valuable advantage over towns enemy, mafia." I'm not sure what advantage he might have. Supposing he's not lying about transparency, all the information he has, he's shared, including Brett's role. For his role to be helpful, first, it requires him to to find someone and out them. Unless the target has a mafia only role, such as hooker or godfather, all we'd have is a role, no affiliation. It's not like we can make any assumptions from role alone. Just look at him, a role that is listed in this mod's own role list claiming a role that is in the mafia list, rather than the either party or 3rd party role lists. Next, we have to trust results given to us by scum. While he may have given us a real piece of information, that could just have been some bait to make us believe he's on our side.

A survivor is a fickle ally. Role Cop in the hands of one only grows more dangerous as time goes on. Mikey is a liability, and the more information he gets, the worse it will be for us if we want to lynch him. While he could be helpful, it's at least as likely he'll screw us over. By choosing to side with the mafia, or lying about being third party, or just not taking his death lying down.

For the reply to Mikey: "Yeah, that's related to your 3rd party and win con." is replying to "Independent and all about the money." Independent... 3rd party. All about the money... Win with whoever "has the most". Beyond that, you're going off on a tangent that had 0 to do with what I was talking about. The point was, if I asked you what role fit the jewish sterotype, what would you have responded prior to this game? Not asking about alignment, win con, or any other piece of fluff, JUST role. How high would Role Cop have come in? All that trash you were bringing up was just YOU deflecting. Because I actually know what that word means. I, on the other hand, wasn't diverting, but letting you know what you said had nothing to do with what I was trying to talk about. You know, trying to get the conversation back on topic and get away from the pointless diversion. I'm also not sure where you thought I was challenging you, but you sure do think I do it a lot for no particular reason. Also, an outted scum calling someone else scummy is actually kind of cute.

I've played differently than every other game, like normal. Thanks for noticing. Believe it or not, each game is different. There are often some similarities, but I try not to play every game the same. It makes my scum tells harder to find. Those of you who want to think you know what I'm doing or not are welcome to try. This game I was trying to get some votes on me, but that didn't work, so now to plan B. For anyone who thinks I play every game the same, check out Space Mafia, (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11083-2013-A-Space-Mafia/) which, as an aside, never was moved to previous games.

Brett, one reason I've kept my vote on you is I'm not sure if you're just being racist. (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12649-Blade-s-Stereotyping-Mafia-Game!?p=187560#post187560) The reason I wanted you to claim was to confirm just how much Mikey had hurt the town.

Unvote
Vote Mikey.

BladeTwinSwords
09-06-2014, 01:45 PM
Jesus fuck, you all made this Day last LONGER than my previous game.

Already at 35 pages.

brett friggin favre
09-06-2014, 02:48 PM
unvote

i just want this day to be over

vote mikey

looking back, i don't like how you hinted at my role.

Assassin
09-06-2014, 03:26 PM
Unovte
Vote Mikey
sorry dude only confirmed anti-town

hoshiro-
09-06-2014, 04:02 PM
Lol. I like how all of you guys were like "yea, let's keep mikey, he will be beneficial, then boom, everyone votes him.

Sin
09-06-2014, 04:16 PM
I never said Mikey was beneficial to town.

Blade give us a vote count please.

Trigger Unhappy
09-06-2014, 04:53 PM
now i feel like i wasn't persuasive enough earlier... Unvote

BladeTwinSwords
09-06-2014, 05:42 PM
Vote Cunt:

Cyber: 2
Mickey: 3

Sin
09-06-2014, 06:09 PM
I find it a little odd that after I've shown everyone how easily we can get Mafia stuck in their own WIFOM by keeping Mikey alive today, all of a sudden there are 3 quick votes against Mikey in succession.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-06-2014, 06:43 PM
if you vote me, you can say GG. town will lose.
There is multiple investigation roles as well, now you are going to get rid of me and leave the second cop open to roleblocks. you people are fucking retarded.

brett friggin favre
09-06-2014, 06:44 PM
I find it a little odd that after I've shown everyone how easily we can get Mafia stuck in their own WIFOM by keeping Mikey alive today, all of a sudden there are 3 quick votes against Mikey in succession.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!

bitch what the fuck do YOU want? a never-ending day 1? i kept my vote on cyber, nobody seems to want to lynch him off of suspicion and the word of some unconfirmed dudes, blackmage votes for mikey, i'm like well shit let's just get on with it...

this is silly. this day has to end at some point.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-06-2014, 06:50 PM
bitch what the fuck do YOU want? a never-ending day 1? i kept my vote on cyber, nobody seems to want to lynch him off of suspicion and the word of some unconfirmed dudes, blackmage votes for mikey, i'm like well shit let's just get on with it...

this is silly. this day has to end at some point.

yes it does but it dosnt take a rocket scientist to understand that me dieing before a mafia does.. hurts town exponentially. This has nothing to do with my win condition, alignment, or role.

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if qwe can manage to killa mafia today, i will gladly take a policy lynch tmrw.

Passarelli
09-06-2014, 07:24 PM
Unovte
Vote Mikey
sorry dude only confirmed anti-town
I thought you were going to kill him if you die?


bitch what the fuck do YOU want? a never-ending day 1? i kept my vote on cyber, nobody seems to want to lynch him off of suspicion and the word of some unconfirmed dudes, blackmage votes for mikey, i'm like well shit let's just get on with it...

this is silly. this day has to end at some point.

I don't like how you switched so hard, especially to end a day just because it is going on for long. Also, I just don't trust that role you have to be town sided.

Unvote Cyber
Vote Brett


I find it a little odd that after I've shown everyone how easily we can get Mafia stuck in their own WIFOM by keeping Mikey alive today, all of a sudden there are 3 quick votes against Mikey in succession.


While I agree with your point, I disagree with the reason we should keep him around. I'm pretty sure mafia would realize it would be suicide to attempt to disrupt Mikey's investigations. However, he is a role cop that is publicly posting his investigations adding to the total knowledge of town. I'm pretty sure with 1 type of cop already in play + JoaT there wouldn't be another full blooded cop. The most I feel that we would have in this setup with the amount of roles known would be a watcher, tracker, or follower. By that same token, Sin, what sorts of roles would we want to lynch if found? Without a cop, I'm doubting there is a Godfather. With 1 role cop in play, I doubt there would be another and I highly doubt it would be named something like "Stalker".

brett friggin favre
09-06-2014, 07:34 PM
can't argue pass' logic. i hold my vote for what, 3 days? switch it, bam now i'm scum.

unvote

vote brett

SCRIBBLE
09-06-2014, 08:28 PM
I would be down for a lynch on cyber. if cyber's role reveals he did not have a shot then we at least know mikey was lying or there is a bus.

vote cyber

Passarelli
09-06-2014, 08:41 PM
I would be down for a lynch on cyber. if cyber's role reveals he did not have a shot then we at least know mikey was lying or there is a bus.


Please go reread the thread.

Sin
09-06-2014, 09:17 PM
can't argue pass' logic. i hold my vote for what, 3 days? switch it, bam now i'm scum.

unvote

vote brett

I can sense the frustration in your post Brett, but voting yourself is really a rookie mistake and should never be done regardless. Self-voting is not the slightest bit helpful to town. Unless you're scum, you want more town. More town = good. Logically, if you want more town, and you ARE town, voting for yourself = bad.

Vote Brett

brett friggin favre
09-06-2014, 09:19 PM
I can sense the frustration in your post Brett, but voting yourself is really a rookie mistake and should never be done regardless. Self-voting is not the slightest bit helpful to town. Unless you're scum, you want more town. More town = good. Logically, if you want more town, and you ARE town, voting for yourself = bad.

Vote Brett

lawl. i was never gonna let it ride. it was a stupid vote for a stupid comment.

unvote

SCRIBBLE
09-06-2014, 09:27 PM
Please go reread the thread.

says the person voting for a potential cop

Passarelli
09-06-2014, 09:59 PM
Scribble, please show me where Brett softed as a cop. I saw him soft a different role which was the same one Mikey outed him as.

Mikey is a Role Cop and investigated Brett. He told us what the fuck Brett is. How can you say he still has the potential to be a cop? Even in his vote on Mikey he didn't renig on his claim.

For real sweetheart, go read the thread. Right now you are just looking scummier and scummier trying to save your partner. I hope Brett doesn't flip as scum for your sake.

Blackmage
09-06-2014, 10:11 PM
Mikey, how does keeping you alive matter at all with regard to the role blocker?

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-06-2014, 10:15 PM
Scribble, please show me where Brett softed as a cop. I saw him soft a different role which was the same one Mikey outed him as.

Mikey is a Role Cop and investigated Brett. He told us what the fuck Brett is. How can you say he still has the potential to be a cop? Even in his vote on Mikey he didn't renig on his claim.

For real sweetheart, go read the thread. Right now you are just looking scummier and scummier trying to save your partner. I hope Brett doesn't flip as scum for your sake.

lawl you are wrong. What role do you think was softed?

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Mikey, how does keeping you alive matter at all with regard to the role blocker?

Well blackmage, i am a cop with 1 more vest. This means i will not die tonight and will have a chance to investigate another player. If mafia is smart, they will role block me, thus preventing me from getting an investigation. This means that another specific role will be able to do there mumbo jumbo with out being interrupted.

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in other words, im a thorn in mafias side and force them to play there cards in a specific way. If they dont, they will suffer consequences. Similar to what sin is saying. They are screwed and the likley hood of catching a mafia after tonight's actions is very high.

Blackmage
09-06-2014, 10:17 PM
He thinks the two of you were saying Brett is a Bus.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-06-2014, 10:27 PM
He thinks the two of you were saying Brett is a Bus.
oh, lawl. how the hell did he figure that?

SCRIBBLE
09-06-2014, 10:31 PM
Scribble, please show me where Brett softed as a cop. I saw him soft a different role which was the same one Mikey outed him as.

Mikey is a Role Cop and investigated Brett. He told us what the fuck Brett is. How can you say he still has the potential to be a cop? Even in his vote on Mikey he didn't renig on his claim.

For real sweetheart, go read the thread. Right now you are just looking scummier and scummier trying to save your partner. I hope Brett doesn't flip as scum for your sake.

Blackmage was the one that mentioned brett was softing cop. "reread the thread"

Passarelli
09-06-2014, 10:42 PM
In that process now >_>

hoshiro-
09-06-2014, 11:15 PM
lawl you are wrong. What role do you think was softed?

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Well blackmage, i am a cop with 1 more vest. This means i will not die tonight and will have a chance to investigate another player. If mafia is smart, they will role block me, thus preventing me from getting an investigation. This means that another specific role will be able to do there mumbo jumbo with out being interrupted.

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in other words, im a thorn in mafias side and force them to play there cards in a specific way. If they dont, they will suffer consequences. Similar to what sin is saying. They are screwed and the likley hood of catching a mafia after tonight's actions is very high.

Mikey, what are your chances of hitting mafia though? We don't even have a clue how many mafia is in this game. It is more likely for you to hit another town pr and if that happens how do we know you won't side with mafia

Passarelli
09-06-2014, 11:15 PM
oh, lawl. how the hell did he figure that?

This (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12649-Blade-s-Stereotyping-Mafia-Game!?p=187690#post187690), This (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12649-Blade-s-Stereotyping-Mafia-Game!?p=187791#post187791), as well as your post saying you were throwing Brett under the bus as well as all the other bus references.

I couldn't catch Mikey's early hints that he was a cop but reading through there was some evidence to support it but that means we are back to lynching Cyber? Or do you think he was bussed with someone?

Sin, what do you think? I'm feeling lost now >_>

Unvote

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-06-2014, 11:40 PM
Mikey, what are your chances of hitting mafia though? We don't even have a clue how many mafia is in this game. It is more likely for you to hit another town pr and if that happens how do we know you won't side with mafia

whether i investigate a mafia or not is not relevant as i will likley pull in the role block so the rest of the town roles can use there powers freely. Also, given that i am here and there was not two deaths, id venture to guess there is at least 3 mafia. Any more than that and id have raised eyebrows at blades set up.

If i am not roleblocked, whether i hit town or mafia, it is more information for town.

Sin
09-07-2014, 01:00 AM
How many fucking cops did Blade put in this game jesus christ.

Passarelli
09-07-2014, 01:03 AM
How many fucking cops did Blade put in this game jesus christ.

This. I figured there was a watcher or something since there is a role cop + JoaT.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-07-2014, 01:14 AM
Joat is only a one shot. Additionally, both cops in game dont get specific alignment results.

Sin
09-07-2014, 01:25 AM
So Mikey which is Brett? Tracker? Watcher?

Passarelli
09-07-2014, 01:44 AM
Sin, he is neither. He is a type of cop--he and Mikey are 2 sides of the same coin.

Trigger Unhappy
09-07-2014, 08:55 AM
Sin, he is neither. He is a type of cop--he and Mikey are 2 sides of the same coin.

Awesome, I'm glad we are learning the town roles so efficiently.. Now why would mafia block Mikey and not Brett? Mikey at least could switch sides.

Assassin
09-07-2014, 02:16 PM
I thought you were going to kill him if you die?



I don't like how you switched so hard, especially to end a day just because it is going on for long. Also, I just don't trust that role you have to be town sided.

Unvote Cyber
Vote Brett



While I agree with your point, I disagree with the reason we should keep him around. I'm pretty sure mafia would realize it would be suicide to attempt to disrupt Mikey's investigations. However, he is a role cop that is publicly posting his investigations adding to the total knowledge of town. I'm pretty sure with 1 type of cop already in play + JoaT there wouldn't be another full blooded cop. The most I feel that we would have in this setup with the amount of roles known would be a watcher, tracker, or follower. By that same token, Sin, what sorts of roles would we want to lynch if found? Without a cop, I'm doubting there is a Godfather. With 1 role cop in play, I doubt there would be another and I highly doubt it would be named something like "Stalker".

If i die first yeah..i plan on it. If not i can blast someone else

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-07-2014, 02:19 PM
If i die first yeah..i plan on it. If not i can blast someone else

and i would laugh at you for it. Stop being a stubborn moron and read what the fuck the rest of your townies have been saying. I suppose it dosnt matter if you shot me over scum.. you are likley going to get the worst player award if you are in fact vengeful. Mafia isnt going to fucking kill.

Assassin
09-07-2014, 03:55 PM
Don't be stupid Mikey, you are the only confirmed anti-town, and you win after the 6th day or w.e so if I die, you're getting blasted, because that will in fact be the most beneficial to the town, instead of me possibly blasting a PR for town.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-07-2014, 04:00 PM
Don't be stupid Mikey, you are the only confirmed anti-town, and you win after the 6th day or w.e so if I die, you're getting blasted, because that will in fact be the most beneficial to the town, instead of me possibly blasting a PR for town.

WRONG and this proves that you have neglected to do ANY reading. Spend some time and read the thread. Sure, kill me... AFTER at least one mafia is dead. It dosnt even matter, you are stupid and claimed. Why you claimed.. is beyond me... could be that you are lying but im leaning towards stupidity.

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it just dawned on me..... if you are so determined to shoot me.. why the fuck are you voting for me? Read your posts... none of it makes fucking sense.

CYBER
09-07-2014, 05:00 PM
Don't be stupid Mikey, you are the only confirmed anti-town, and you win after the 6th day or w.e so if I die, you're getting blasted, because that will in fact be the most beneficial to the town, instead of me possibly blasting a PR for town.


I see your logic about wanting to blast mikey when you get killed seeing as your shot can blast through whatever vests he has and possibly save time from mikey solo winning it... but again, this is for the "down the road" plan... I wouldn't advertise who you want to shoot next time assassin.
Because as much as i do NOT trust mikey whatsoever, when you announce to everyone that you want to shoot mikey no matter what, i.e shooting the guy with a vest that mafia wouldn't wanna waste time on, it allows mafia to perhaps kill YOU and then hope you'd follow through on your announcement of killing mikey straight through his vests... without breaking a sweat or waste a night on mikey blocking the shot...
And so they would kill 2 birds with 1 stone. do you understand what im fucknig saying?




@trig
They'd wanna roleblock mikey vs brett because :
1- mikey's vest makes him immune for a night kill now, and mafia is probably banking on assassin venging him.
2- mikey's role is more... ehm... DESCRIPTIVE as he has better Flavour than brett's shit, and more accurate.
3- Mafia can simply roleblock mikey and KILL brett.


IF THE ROLEBLOCKER WHO BLOCKED BRETT NIGHT 1 IS TOWN, don't block brett or mikey (or me, but hey that's my personal preference),
but i'm guessing either the RB is laying low, or he was on the mafia side.

(i can already see you guys wondering "how do i know brett got roleblocked night 1 ? Answer : he softed it.)

also, for those who still didn't get what brett is and how important he is assuming he is on TOWN side, more so than mikey, then yeah.. i feel for ya.
His flavour is interesting probably because it can be seen on both mafia and town side, although usually 90% that role is town sided as a nerfed version of mikey's claim...
Which begs me to question why MIKEY AND brett are in the same game....




@mikey...
with what you know of brett (and what was softed) and the fact that i think there's still another investigation role like a tracker or some shit in game, and the fact that stars had a 1 shot investigation and used it on u ...
I think there's way more investigation roles than we've ever had in a setup...


And you see, this is bothersome:
So many vests... so many investigation roles that claim to be same side... yet not enough killing roles unless something got blocked or protected.
What's the point of the vests (anti-killing) if we've seen a shitton of investigation roles (causing lynches more than kills...)...
does anyone get this weird vibe?


If i had to trade in someone, i would trade mikey for an extra night since we don't rly know if he would even speak the truth.
I still can't buy that mikey is on our side with tHAT many investigation roles...
and i'd rather kill off mikey and keep the other options...
but i will give mikey the benefit of the doubt to give us a report ...and if he lies, with that many investigation roles and or PRs, he would get caught fast hopefully....

BUT TOMORROW i am definitely advocating for a lynch on the anti town mikey if i do not like his results or the night phase.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-07-2014, 05:07 PM
I see your logic about wanting to blast mikey when you get killed seeing as your shot can blast through whatever vests he has and possibly save time from mikey solo winning it... but again, this is for the "down the road" plan... I wouldn't advertise who you want to shoot next time assassin.
Because as much as i do NOT trust mikey whatsoever, when you announce to everyone that you want to shoot mikey no matter what, i.e shooting the guy with a vest that mafia wouldn't wanna waste time on, it allows mafia to perhaps kill YOU and then hope you'd follow through on your announcement of killing mikey straight through his vests... without breaking a sweat or waste a night on mikey blocking the shot...
And so they would kill 2 birds with 1 stone. do you understand what im fucknig saying?




@trig
They'd wanna roleblock mikey vs brett because :
1- mikey's vest makes him immune for a night kill now, and mafia is probably banking on assassin venging him.
2- mikey's role is more... ehm... DESCRIPTIVE as he has better Flavour than brett's shit, and more accurate.
3- Mafia can simply roleblock mikey and KILL brett.


IF THE ROLEBLOCKER WHO BLOCKED BRETT NIGHT 1 IS TOWN, don't block brett or mikey (or me, but hey that's my personal preference),
but i'm guessing either the RB is laying low, or he was on the mafia side.

(i can already see you guys wondering "how do i know brett got roleblocked night 1 ? Answer : he softed it.)

also, for those who still didn't get what brett is and how important he is assuming he is on TOWN side, more so than mikey, then yeah.. i feel for ya.
His flavour is interesting probably because it can be seen on both mafia and town side, although usually 90% that role is town sided as a nerfed version of mikey's claim...
Which begs me to question why MIKEY AND brett are in the same game....




@mikey...
with what you know of brett (and what was softed) and the fact that i think there's still another investigation role like a tracker or some shit in game, and the fact that stars had a 1 shot investigation and used it on u ...
I think there's way more investigation roles than we've ever had in a setup...


And you see, this is bothersome:
So many vests... so many investigation roles that claim to be same side... yet not enough killing roles unless something got blocked or protected.
What's the point of the vests (anti-killing) if we've seen a shitton of investigation roles (causing lynches more than kills...)...
does anyone get this weird vibe?


If i had to trade in someone, i would trade mikey for an extra night since we don't rly know if he would even speak the truth.
I still can't buy that mikey is on our side with tHAT many investigation roles...
and i'd rather kill off mikey and keep the other options...
but i will give mikey the benefit of the doubt to give us a report ...and if he lies, with that many investigation roles and or PRs, he would get caught fast hopefully....

BUT TOMORROW i am definitely advocating for a lynch on the anti town mikey if i do not like his results or the night phase.

1st, where did brett soft claim being role blocked? Pass said he was role blocked....
2nd cyber, the amount of vests and half investigative roles is plausible, considering this game was meant to last up to 6 in game days. My personal win condition is proof enough that this game is made in such a way that it will be a long game.

Passarelli
09-07-2014, 05:44 PM
Brett, go ahead and lead. We might as well follow him since he likely won't last another night.

brett friggin favre
09-07-2014, 05:55 PM
Brett, go ahead and lead. We might as well follow him since he likely won't last another night.

you saw where i had my vote. one other has played retardedly suspicious today.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-07-2014, 06:03 PM
you saw where i had my vote. one other has played retardedly suspicious today.
You are voting wrong. Forget about my role and claim. Think about it this way. Come tmrw, there will be 9 players and town will not have hit a single fucking mafia. I provide a unique equilibrium between mafia vs town, that prevents the mafia from taking full action.
Additionally... brett, were you roleblocked? If so, pass was lying.

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If you were not roleblocked, out any information you have. At this point, it dosnt really matter.

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We either NEED to hit a mafia between today and tmrw, or we have to no lynch today.

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by we, im talking about "town", town needs to do this. Forget about me fora fraction of a fucking second.

Trigger Unhappy
09-07-2014, 06:04 PM
Yes Brett please out the other town role you hit.. /s

Trigger Unhappy
09-07-2014, 06:29 PM
Yes Brett please out the other town role you hit.. /s

CYBER
09-07-2014, 07:06 PM
Regardless, this flavor is .... not very revealing.



I think its funny he thinks your mafia.
It adds... flavor.. to the game.



However, I was hit in the vest by a shoot. Per the flavor sent to me. .



Thank you. What flavor are you?



Combine all of this with some flavor text added to my role



Good amount of info, even given the lack of flavor from night 1.



if you vote me, you can say GG. town will lose.
There is multiple investigation roles as well, now you are going to get rid of me and leave the second cop open to roleblocks. you people are fucking retarded.


and then there THIS:


http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Flavor_Cop




OK i have been sitting on this info for a while because i didn't want to out Brett if mafia didn't realize what he was. but im curious now as to whether he or pass got roleblocked night 1, or this sentence was just a coincidence and miscommunication...

i'm sure all of u have seen those so far, but we're dueling circles around what brett is, since some claim he's a bus driver, others roleblocker, other cop ( i lost track of who said what at this point) etc... including that nice comment from sin "how many investigative roles are there in this game? but more on that later...


my PERSONAL translation of this shit?


Mikey rolecop'd brett.
He got "flavour cop" returned.
He kept hinting that he received "flavour" cop results.
Brett did NOT receive ANY investigation results, probably got roleblocked (last quote).
Mikey talks about the second cop with confirmation and confidence rather than a speculation wording, because he knows for sure there is one... brett...


So @mikey.
When i first read through this thread, i thought Brett was softing to you that he got ROLEBLOCKED because of "lack of flavor of night 1"
hence why i assumed brett was roleblocked and now that u reminded me that pass also claimed being roleblocked... i need to know if i simply over analyzed these soft claims... you can't argue it was a bit coincidental, but still...
===========================================


WAIT A FUCKING SECOND.
i am curious:
pass claimed to be ROLEBLOCKEd. and yet also claimed to have a vest...
What role does he have that requires both an active role, and a passive.
And it had to be an active that would INFORM PASS THAT HE WAS ROLEBLOCKED.
It had to be an investigative report and he got none. a gifting role where blade specifically mentioned he was roleblocked... or a killing role like vig or whatever because the lack of death made him assume he was roleblocked, when it oculd have been a vest being used, or a fucking doctor protection nailing it.


so again... who the fuck ACTUALLY and incontestably was roleblocked night 1?
shoot.

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and come on... phil not posting anything still.... fucking post restriction of the century right there...
unless he has other ways of communicating with ppl...

add that to all these vests, doctors, investdigation roles, roleblocks....

dafuq is going on with this setup blade -.-



Mafia, if any of all that shit claimed today is true, try raging at blade for playing an overly unbalanced game for town sided, go for it, i promise i wont peak.

Trigger Unhappy
09-07-2014, 07:09 PM
Brett please answer one question. Did you target Black mage last night? I know Pass did based on a previous post, and I have a theory as to what happened.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-07-2014, 07:54 PM
and then there THIS:


http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Flavor_Cop




OK i have been sitting on this info for a while because i didn't want to out Brett if mafia didn't realize what he was. but im curious now as to whether he or pass got roleblocked night 1, or this sentence was just a coincidence and miscommunication...

i'm sure all of u have seen those so far, but we're dueling circles around what brett is, since some claim he's a bus driver, others roleblocker, other cop ( i lost track of who said what at this point) etc... including that nice comment from sin "how many investigative roles are there in this game? but more on that later...


my PERSONAL translation of this shit?


Mikey rolecop'd brett.
He got "flavour cop" returned.
He kept hinting that he received "flavour" cop results.
Brett did NOT receive ANY investigation results, probably got roleblocked (last quote).
Mikey talks about the second cop with confirmation and confidence rather than a speculation wording, because he knows for sure there is one... brett...


So @mikey.
When i first read through this thread, i thought Brett was softing to you that he got ROLEBLOCKED because of "lack of flavor of night 1"
hence why i assumed brett was roleblocked and now that u reminded me that pass also claimed being roleblocked... i need to know if i simply over analyzed these soft claims... you can't argue it was a bit coincidental, but still...
===========================================


WAIT A FUCKING SECOND.
i am curious:
pass claimed to be ROLEBLOCKEd. and yet also claimed to have a vest...
What role does he have that requires both an active role, and a passive.
And it had to be an active that would INFORM PASS THAT HE WAS ROLEBLOCKED.
It had to be an investigative report and he got none. a gifting role where blade specifically mentioned he was roleblocked... or a killing role like vig or whatever because the lack of death made him assume he was roleblocked, when it oculd have been a vest being used, or a fucking doctor protection nailing it.


so again... who the fuck ACTUALLY and incontestably was roleblocked night 1?
shoot.

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and come on... phil not posting anything still.... fucking post restriction of the century right there...
unless he has other ways of communicating with ppl...

add that to all these vests, doctors, investdigation roles, roleblocks....

dafuq is going on with this setup blade -.-



Mafia, if any of all that shit claimed today is true, try raging at blade for playing an overly unbalanced game for town sided, go for it, i promise i wont peak.

pass claimed to have been roleblocked when he asked brett if he got a daiquiri. When brett said no, pass "confirmed" being role blocked. Im more inclined to beleive pass is blowing smoke.
Secondly, brett blew off my softs to him. That is why i made my post regarding the possibility of a bus. It is possible that brett was bussed with the actual flavor cop, however at this point, that is unlikely. Secondly, if the bus scenario is true, that means brett cant be the bus, as a bus cannot bus themselves.
lastly, i can tell you that this setup is pretty balanced. It is some of the players unwillingness to acknowledge that whether or not i choose to side with mafia or town.. town needs me alive until at least 1 mafia is taken out.

brett friggin favre
09-07-2014, 08:02 PM
you guys are really good at making sure mafia have all the info they could ever want about us when we have almost none about them.

hoshiro-
09-07-2014, 08:05 PM
At this rate all we are doing is revealing more info for mafia so I say we just no lynch if we don't reach a conclusion any time soon

Trigger Unhappy
09-07-2014, 08:21 PM
Then vote mikey or cyber to end the day..

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-07-2014, 08:54 PM
Then vote mikey or cyber to end the day..

WHAT PART DONT YOU UNDERSTAND! Town will surly lose if you lynch me today you fucking dingle berry.
TBH, primary suspects should be those who want me dead.. as i am mafias biggest cock block.

Trigger Unhappy
09-07-2014, 09:08 PM
I understand that you keep saying that. It seems there are some that disagree..

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Mikey.. who would you vote for at this point? I assume me, but I would like to see where your vote would lie. Is it still cyber?

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-07-2014, 09:21 PM
I understand that you keep saying that. It seems there are some that disagree..

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Mikey.. who would you vote for at this point? I assume me, but I would like to see where your vote would lie. Is it still cyber?

im not certain about cyber anymore at this point but think its a good vote, in almost all of his posts he feigns ignorance and then apologizes for not having actually read through the thread when he makes a mistake. Pass has some explaining to do in regards to the role block claims from both brett and pass.
Sin... he has pretty much disappeared.

Trigger.. there is like 2 other people who think that. The majority agrees. Im not saying what i have been repeating because of my role, im saying it because it is the truth and i would like for you newbies to experience the taste of victory in a game that actually requires some level or skill and strategy.

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the majority agrees that me dying today is bad*

Trigger Unhappy
09-07-2014, 09:23 PM
Sorry I thought Pass said that he targeted blackmage

Assassin
09-07-2014, 09:25 PM
Unvote
Vote No Lynch one way or the other we will figure this out soon.

Passarelli
09-07-2014, 09:38 PM
Mikey, I don't know how I'm supposed to explain it any cleared then what I did. I don't know if it was a jailkeeper or a roleblocker, or what alignment the person doing it was but if Brett didn't get it I was roleblocked. Keep in mind there can be a roleblocker on BOTH sides, mafia and town. Hell, I could have even been redirected to someone else come to think of it and they are just letting me think I was roleblocked.

I'm pretty sure I was role blocked though.

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Sorry I thought Pass said that he targeted blackmage

Does that change your hint to me at all?

Trigger Unhappy
09-07-2014, 09:51 PM
yes it does. I thought you had targeted black. Consider it moot

Passarelli
09-07-2014, 09:52 PM
Well, it looks like redirector is now more likely then roleblocker. It could still be either though.

Trigger Unhappy
09-07-2014, 10:01 PM
who are you voting for pass?

StarsMine
09-07-2014, 11:19 PM
Jesus fuck guys, If I wasn't already dead I would kill myself with the amount of nothingness going on here.

brett friggin favre
09-07-2014, 11:34 PM
Jesus fuck guys, If I wasn't already dead I would kill myself with the amount of nothingness going on here.

cock, shoot, pass.

Passarelli
09-07-2014, 11:49 PM
Assassin and his day 1 vengeful claim seems the most scummy to me, however I'm going to follow the town sided cop with whatever he decides.

CYBER
09-08-2014, 12:55 AM
seriously,
If pass is truly what he is, then he gifted smthn to someone who refuses to talk and help figure out wtf is going on with the whole Roleblock int and Brett and pass shit.
So whoever received the gift MUST be scum. There is no other reason.

IF THE REDIRECTOR or bus is TOWN then tell us who the fuck you redirected Brett TO.
Because whoever you redirected it TO is scum and we can get an easy Lynch instead of having more roles outed. I can already see that mafia will have a hard time figuring out who to prioritizing a kill.
Pass we need to clear you eventually, its getting lonely this game, gimme some lovin tonight, I'll make popcorn, we can watch twilight together lol.
No seriously, there's so much shit going on and if we are saying the truth then mafia is having a field day with this...

Sin, u're too quiet, all that sneaking of yours needs to be for a good cause eventually:)

SCRIBBLE
09-08-2014, 05:28 AM
IF THE REDIRECTOR or bus is TOWN then tell us who the fuck you redirected Brett TO.
Because whoever you redirected it TO is scum and we can get an easy Lynch instead of having more roles outed. I can already see that mafia will have a hard time figuring out who to prioritizing a kill.
Pass we need to clear you eventually, its getting lonely this game, gimme some lovin tonight, I'll make popcorn, we can watch twilight together lol.
No seriously, there's so much shit going on and if we are saying the truth then mafia is having a field day with this...

This is scumtastic.

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I do not think that could sound more scummy if you tried.

Assassin
09-08-2014, 12:12 PM
This is scumtastic.

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I do not think that could sound more scummy if you tried.

Although certain points of it sound scummy, certain other points also make sense. I think it was just cyber going out on a tangent like he always does, and possibly not thinking before he typed everything and hit enter.

Sin
09-08-2014, 12:16 PM
When I hit enter it goes to the next line.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-08-2014, 12:28 PM
Im going to do this for the last time. There are three potential roles being tossed around right now and while I sit on the crapper at work, I will go step by step.

The three roles. Redirector, bus, roleblocker.

Some facts claimed by players.
Pass sent brett an item.
Brett denies receiving said item. This means brett cannot be a bus because busses cannot bus themselves.
Pass could have been bussed but that would not effect his ability unless he was bussed with the person he sent the item too. Which is not possible given what we know.
Pass could have been the victim of a redirect but I do not think that is the case.
That last part is actually irrelevant as we have only two possibilities, given what we know. There is both a redirector and a roleblocker or one of them is lying or witholding night results.

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The problem I have with cybers post is that he is fishing for more roles when it isnt needed.

Blackmage
09-08-2014, 01:12 PM
Brett denies receiving said item. This means brett cannot be a bus because busses cannot bus themselves.


http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus_Driver

Many, but not all, moderators do not allow Bus Drivers to self-target (i.e. choose themselves as one of the people they swap).

Please stop spreading misinformation.

Assassin
09-08-2014, 01:21 PM
I agree with your last statement there, and Sin you know what I meant you douchenozzle.

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Mine was targeted at Mikey saying cyber is still fishing for more roles btw, although I do agree with BM's assesment as well.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-08-2014, 01:25 PM
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus_Driver

Many, but not all, moderators do not allow Bus Drivers to self-target (i.e. choose themselves as one of the people they swap).

Please stop spreading misinformation.

jesus christ kid. You are so fucking bullheaded. Being that in every instance we have EVER had a bus in our games, EVER... the bus has never been able to bus themselves. To further that point, i consider allowing a bus to bus themselves, bastard modding. Somthing blade specifically said he was avoiding in his game. Stop nit picking.

Sin
09-08-2014, 01:29 PM
But it isn't Bastard modding.

Anyway, that's not really a great point to be arguing for or against. If a Bus is in play it just makes things more complicated. I'm almost willing to go with an NL as our vests are pretty sweet and Mafia will most likely hit a vest.

CYBER
09-08-2014, 06:44 PM
This is scumtastic.

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I do not think that could sound more scummy if you tried.


Yes i realize "oh look im asking for a roleblocker or redirector to step out and say who they redirected"

What you don't understand is that if that person stepped up, WE CAN LYNCH A SCUM by solving the mystery of the disappearance of pass's gift...
We SHOULD have focus'd on this earlier and only out the roleblocker and redirector for the list of reasons that will follow, but mikey started the game with flavoring brett, then fucking accused me based on a grudge and meta, then stars got mod killed but outed mikey as third party...etc.

We've outed so many roles because everyone felt too talkative (pass, assassin), or was pinned against a wall based on a grudge.
When from the start, since pass claimed that he sent a gift, and brett didn't receive it then it means the following options;

>Pass is scum lying about his role. Doubt he'd gamble this much when obviously the receiver will never receive anything. Or is Fake Inventor, i wouldn't be surprised of blade using that.
>Brett is scum Flavor COP, and lied about receiving a gift, but that would be unlikely since it would be easy to catch on to.
>Pass got roleblocked, thus brett didn't receive a gift. The roleblocker should now note that he roleblocked someone with gifts and should consider a new target
>A redirector or bus driver swapped brett from receiving pass's gift:
- If that role is TOWN SIDED, then that means that whoever received that gift (the second target of the bus or redirector's ability) MUST BE SCUM and is not providing a simple " no wait, i got the gift" answer to help resolve the case. Because saying "yes i got a gift" doesn't fucking reveal ANYTHING about your alias or role or claim, it simply would have helped us confirm Pass... but seeing as they didn't ... it's scummy.
- If that role is NOT town sided, then that would explain why they are quiet, then we need to wary of anyone claiming RB or redirector or bus or wtvr down the road as they are guaranteed scum.

anywho, this is my comment on how fucked we're all currently. but 1 thing for sure, with so many claims and prominent targets that mafia would wanna kill off asap, and with how many vests we have...
Sin might be right about the no lynch... because of how many investigation roles we have and how town "SEEMS" to be protected...
otherwise, i usually advocate for a no lynch...
At least we would know that at least ONE investigation role will come out tomorrow with info...
other than that, i feel like lynching one of the people who HAVEN't talked much yet, as they clearly are enjoying how so many ppl are just claiming info left and right... and aren't providing much.

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^like scribble :D

Passarelli
09-08-2014, 07:44 PM
Yes i realize "oh look im asking for a roleblocker or redirector to step out and say who they redirected"

What you don't understand is that if that person stepped up, WE CAN LYNCH A SCUM by solving the mystery of the disappearance of pass's gift...
We SHOULD have focus'd on this earlier and only out the roleblocker and redirector for the list of reasons that will follow, but mikey started the game with flavoring brett, then fucking accused me based on a grudge and meta, then stars got mod killed but outed mikey as third party...etc.

We've outed so many roles because everyone felt too talkative (pass, assassin), or was pinned against a wall based on a grudge.
When from the start, since pass claimed that he sent a gift, and brett didn't receive it then it means the following options;

>Pass is scum lying about his role. Doubt he'd gamble this much when obviously the receiver will never receive anything. Or is Fake Inventor, i wouldn't be surprised of blade using that.
>Brett is scum Flavor COP, and lied about receiving a gift, but that would be unlikely since it would be easy to catch on to.
>Pass got roleblocked, thus brett didn't receive a gift. The roleblocker should now note that he roleblocked someone with gifts and should consider a new target
>A redirector or bus driver swapped brett from receiving pass's gift:
- If that role is TOWN SIDED, then that means that whoever received that gift (the second target of the bus or redirector's ability) MUST BE SCUM and is not providing a simple " no wait, i got the gift" answer to help resolve the case. Because saying "yes i got a gift" doesn't fucking reveal ANYTHING about your alias or role or claim, it simply would have helped us confirm Pass... but seeing as they didn't ... it's scummy.
- If that role is NOT town sided, then that would explain why they are quiet, then we need to wary of anyone claiming RB or redirector or bus or wtvr down the road as they are guaranteed scum.

anywho, this is my comment on how fucked we're all currently. but 1 thing for sure, with so many claims and prominent targets that mafia would wanna kill off asap, and with how many vests we have...
Sin might be right about the no lynch... because of how many investigation roles we have and how town "SEEMS" to be protected...
otherwise, i usually advocate for a no lynch...
At least we would know that at least ONE investigation role will come out tomorrow with info...
other than that, i feel like lynching one of the people who HAVEN't talked much yet, as they clearly are enjoying how so many ppl are just claiming info left and right... and aren't providing much.

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^like scribble :D

You missed what likely happened with the redirector. Trigger knows what I'm talking about.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-08-2014, 08:48 PM
Yes i realize "oh look im asking for a roleblocker or redirector to step out and say who they redirected"

What you don't understand is that if that person stepped up, WE CAN LYNCH A SCUM by solving the mystery of the disappearance of pass's gift...
We SHOULD have focus'd on this earlier and only out the roleblocker and redirector for the list of reasons that will follow, but mikey started the game with flavoring brett, then fucking accused me based on a grudge and meta, then stars got mod killed but outed mikey as third party...etc.

We've outed so many roles because everyone felt too talkative (pass, assassin), or was pinned against a wall based on a grudge.
When from the start, since pass claimed that he sent a gift, and brett didn't receive it then it means the following options;

>Pass is scum lying about his role. Doubt he'd gamble this much when obviously the receiver will never receive anything. Or is Fake Inventor, i wouldn't be surprised of blade using that.
>Brett is scum Flavor COP, and lied about receiving a gift, but that would be unlikely since it would be easy to catch on to.
>Pass got roleblocked, thus brett didn't receive a gift. The roleblocker should now note that he roleblocked someone with gifts and should consider a new target
>A redirector or bus driver swapped brett from receiving pass's gift:
- If that role is TOWN SIDED, then that means that whoever received that gift (the second target of the bus or redirector's ability) MUST BE SCUM and is not providing a simple " no wait, i got the gift" answer to help resolve the case. Because saying "yes i got a gift" doesn't fucking reveal ANYTHING about your alias or role or claim, it simply would have helped us confirm Pass... but seeing as they didn't ... it's scummy.
- If that role is NOT town sided, then that would explain why they are quiet, then we need to wary of anyone claiming RB or redirector or bus or wtvr down the road as they are guaranteed scum.

anywho, this is my comment on how fucked we're all currently. but 1 thing for sure, with so many claims and prominent targets that mafia would wanna kill off asap, and with how many vests we have...
Sin might be right about the no lynch... because of how many investigation roles we have and how town "SEEMS" to be protected...
otherwise, i usually advocate for a no lynch...
At least we would know that at least ONE investigation role will come out tomorrow with info...
other than that, i feel like lynching one of the people who HAVEN't talked much yet, as they clearly are enjoying how so many ppl are just claiming info left and right... and aren't providing much.

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^like scribble :D

you also missed my response to your post....

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-08-2014, 09:39 PM
Yes i realize "oh look im asking for a roleblocker or redirector to step out and say who they redirected"

What you don't understand is that if that person stepped up, WE CAN LYNCH A SCUM by solving the mystery of the disappearance of pass's gift...
We SHOULD have focus'd on this earlier and only out the roleblocker and redirector for the list of reasons that will follow, but mikey started the game with flavoring brett, then fucking accused me based on a grudge and meta, then stars got mod killed but outed mikey as third party...etc.

We've outed so many roles because everyone felt too talkative (pass, assassin), or was pinned against a wall based on a grudge.
When from the start, since pass claimed that he sent a gift, and brett didn't receive it then it means the following options;

>Pass is scum lying about his role. Doubt he'd gamble this much when obviously the receiver will never receive anything. Or is Fake Inventor, i wouldn't be surprised of blade using that.
>Brett is scum Flavor COP, and lied about receiving a gift, but that would be unlikely since it would be easy to catch on to.
>Pass got roleblocked, thus brett didn't receive a gift. The roleblocker should now note that he roleblocked someone with gifts and should consider a new target
>A redirector or bus driver swapped brett from receiving pass's gift:
- If that role is TOWN SIDED, then that means that whoever received that gift (the second target of the bus or redirector's ability) MUST BE SCUM and is not providing a simple " no wait, i got the gift" answer to help resolve the case. Because saying "yes i got a gift" doesn't fucking reveal ANYTHING about your alias or role or claim, it simply would have helped us confirm Pass... but seeing as they didn't ... it's scummy.
- If that role is NOT town sided, then that would explain why they are quiet, then we need to wary of anyone claiming RB or redirector or bus or wtvr down the road as they are guaranteed scum.

anywho, this is my comment on how fucked we're all currently. but 1 thing for sure, with so many claims and prominent targets that mafia would wanna kill off asap, and with how many vests we have...
Sin might be right about the no lynch... because of how many investigation roles we have and how town "SEEMS" to be protected...
otherwise, i usually advocate for a no lynch...
At least we would know that at least ONE investigation role will come out tomorrow with info...
other than that, i feel like lynching one of the people who HAVEN't talked much yet, as they clearly are enjoying how so many ppl are just claiming info left and right... and aren't providing much.

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^like scribble :D

you also missed my response to your post....

Assassin
09-09-2014, 09:59 AM
Going nowhere fast...woot woot..all aboard the fail train...

brett friggin favre
09-09-2014, 10:44 AM
we could vote cyber, who is a nazi but readily admits to being german. strange play.

we could vote mikey, who we know is not town, and who we know is a jew.

we could vote me, based on the assumption that i'm lying about receiving a gift.

or we could vote sin, who's been playing nem. think about it. he's been a total cunt to everyone and extracted info for the mafia's benefit. exactly how nem plays. then there's this quote which i originally glossed over but which blackmage made me think more about. "Avoid being a Nemesis (Racist)." ( http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12649-Blade-s-Stereotyping-Mafia-Game!?p=187560#post187560 ) maybe the races aren't mafia, but the nemesises...nemeses?...are mafia. if so, sin's our main target.

Assassin
09-09-2014, 11:56 AM
You're ava makes me want to point towards you, but idk. I'm thinking we should take out the only confirmed non town still.

Sin
09-09-2014, 11:56 AM
Or we could, ya know, nolynch since more than some of us have vests, but ya know that's not important, ya know.

brett friggin favre
09-09-2014, 12:03 PM
Or we could, ya know, nolynch since more than some of us have vests, but ya know that's not important, ya know.

Meant to include that but I forgot as I was in a rush to get to class

Sin
09-09-2014, 12:22 PM
And honestly, how have I been playing Nem? I ask the important questions and get reads based off of interaction between players. And I believe Cyber's role more relies on Oktoberfest n shit.

brett friggin favre
09-09-2014, 08:36 PM
And honestly, how have I been playing Nem? I ask the important questions and get reads based off of interaction between players. And I believe Cyber's role more relies on Oktoberfest n shit.

not gonna go through all your posts to pull examples but an advanced search will show anyone what they need. there are several instances where you call for straight hard claims etc., refer to germans as "vile creatures" or something, called someone a nigger and whatnot.

Passarelli
09-09-2014, 08:42 PM
Brett, you think the mafia's flavor is something like bigot?

brett friggin favre
09-09-2014, 09:47 PM
Brett, you think the mafia's flavor is something like bigot?

i was speculating that it could be.

Assassin
09-10-2014, 09:22 AM
Why would that matter, it's not like anyone would be dumb enough to give that away during a game. Derp it says I'm a racist...well better start acting like one...derp.

Sin
09-10-2014, 09:48 AM
I don't roleplay my roles like some of you fags. If I softclaim flavor I make it obvious because flavor doesn't mean shit (hence why my vote isn't on Cyber) when it comes to figuring out alignment. If I call someone a nigger, it's because they're acting like one, that's just how I roll nigga.

P.S.: Germans are still the scumbags of the earth, their cars suck dick and the only thing good that comes out of that terrible country is beer.

Assassin
09-10-2014, 09:57 AM
I don't roleplay my roles like some of you fags. If I softclaim flavor I make it obvious because flavor doesn't mean shit (hence why my vote isn't on Cyber) when it comes to figuring out alignment. If I call someone a nigger, it's because they're acting like one, that's just how I roll nigga.

P.S.: Germans are still the scumbags of the earth, their cars suck dick and the only thing good that comes out of that terrible country is beer.

called it.

Sin
09-11-2014, 02:35 PM
More than 24 hours since anyone has posted.

hi

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-11-2014, 02:37 PM
Hello....

Assassin
09-11-2014, 02:48 PM
Yup grind to a halt because people are just unwilling to vote. This is why time limits need to be here. Every single one of these that doesn't have them, grinds to a halt like this. Quit pussy footing around people and vote your concious

BladeTwinSwords
09-11-2014, 02:56 PM
Due to the lack of progress, I will be enforcing a 48 hour Time Limit for Day 1.

If a decision is not made by the end, I will either.

A) Random Lynch
B) Lynch the person with the highest vote count
C) No Lynch


Current Vote Count:

Burt: 3
Mickey: 2
Cyber: 1
No Lynch: 1

hoshiro-
09-11-2014, 03:08 PM
I really have no idea who is scum here and who is not, and I think mikey is still useful to town so Ill
no lynch

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Oops wrong color, sorry it's hard to press the colors on my phone
no lynch

hoshiro-
09-11-2014, 09:31 PM
im guessing everyone just got bored and stopped playing

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-11-2014, 09:49 PM
im guessing everyone just got bored and stopped playing

imcorrect... i laid out a pretty specific ground work for you kids.
You should be lynching someone who voted me. Specificlly one who mysteriously disappeared from the game. Not one of the newbs who sheeped.
Just in case.
unvote

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pretty much, im trying to town side so hard that i cant fucking take it anymore.

My foses are cyber, sin, and blackmage.

If you dont vote for one of these, vote fucking no lynch an end this god damn day.

Trigger Unhappy
09-12-2014, 11:01 AM
Yes everyone follow the third party...

Unvote

No lynch

Assassin
09-12-2014, 12:00 PM
Yes everyone follow the third party...

Unvote

No lynch

So you do?

minjae
09-12-2014, 01:36 PM
I've been keeping up but never had anything to say. Except, we should really get this moving. If we don't want a random lynch or a mislynch, I'd say we go for a no lynch.

No lynch

And no, it's not scummy to vote no lynch. It's better than hitting someone that we may need. We don't want something happening like some of the other past games when it ended quick as shit because of mislynches.

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If someone persuades otherwise, then we can vote someone instead. As of now, I'm at a loss for who to vote for. Hence, the no lynch.

Sin
09-12-2014, 05:27 PM
I don't consider nolynching scummy in this situation given that we have multiple vests in play. Best to play it safe and hope that mafia hits a vest, rather than jump to conclusions and potentially off someone with a vest.

UNVOTE

VOTE NOLYNCH

SCRIBBLE
09-12-2014, 06:54 PM
I bet the number of vests claimed is bullshit.

brett friggin favre
09-12-2014, 08:47 PM
unvote

vote no lynch

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-12-2014, 08:56 PM
Vote No Lynch

BladeTwinSwords
09-12-2014, 09:03 PM
That is a No Lynch.

When it all comes down to it. No one is really sure of who is guilty or not.

You all decide to wait until the night. Maybe some investigating can solve this.

As the gang splits up for the night, you overhear a dark figure discuss sinister plans.

This isn't a good sign...

Night 2 has begun! You have 48 hours to send in your actions.

BladeTwinSwords
09-12-2014, 10:19 PM
One of you decided, you know what. Fuck the lot of you all.

He moves over to one of the booths and provides input.

Blackmage, who is Swiss - Has Stumped Himself!

Sin
09-12-2014, 10:29 PM
Why didn't you wait until the end of the Night?

BladeTwinSwords
09-12-2014, 10:44 PM
Why didn't you wait until the end of the Night?

He used his a while ago. I just couldn't post it in time.

BladeTwinSwords
09-13-2014, 02:39 AM
Death Scene HO!

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You fuckers need to stop sleeping in my bar!

As the gang gets together, they take a head-count.

There's someone missing.

"I gotta take a piss!" says the slanty eyed patron.

He shrieks in horror as he finds a dead body lying in a puddle of his own blood.

He smells of tomatoes...

Cyber, who is, German Town Doctor has been murdered!

Day 2 Begins! Please keep it talkative or I will enforce a time limit again.

With 10 people alive....you fucking do the math.....

SCRIBBLE
09-13-2014, 02:53 AM
Great... I am the only one who voted for cyber.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-13-2014, 02:56 AM
so, based off flavor we can conclude that who ever the asian guy is, is pretty much town.
Pass, you are soo fruity!

Blackmage
09-13-2014, 02:59 AM
Heh, tree stump. Anyways. There we are. Cyber's dead. German was town, so I guessed correctly there. I guess the question is, what information do people have to share? Someone want to claim receiving a present?

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Side not, Phil, can you talk yet? If not, can you vote?

CYBER
09-13-2014, 03:06 AM
im not even gonna comment at how stupidly obvious and retarded some ppl were.

gg.

oh and guess i wasn't that hyped up of a scum that ppl made me out to be.
learn from this shit.
biebie

StarsMine
09-13-2014, 04:39 AM
lol. You all are good at this.

phil.™
09-13-2014, 07:03 AM
Side not, Phil, can you talk yet? If not, can you vote?

That's a big 10-4.

YOU FUCKERS TAKE SO LONG DAY 1. FUCK.

Mikey, report.

minjae
09-13-2014, 08:47 AM
LOL slanty eyed patron puhahahah

Tomatoes ehh? Not beer and potatoes?

Passarelli
09-13-2014, 09:12 AM
Trigger?

Also Mikey, results! Anything useful?
Brett is still alive?! What the fuck is going on here. Did you get anything useful?

Trigger Unhappy
09-13-2014, 09:19 AM
nomzz

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Also I don't mind sharing this. I got a message stating that I had been roleblocked by a dark type of force.

Passarelli
09-13-2014, 09:22 AM
Roleblocked? So there is a straight roleblocker as well as that other thing that happened to blackmage.

Trigger Unhappy
09-13-2014, 09:26 AM
it didnt actually say "roleblocked" just that I could not use my powers because of this force. I assume roleblocked.

SCRIBBLE
09-13-2014, 10:15 AM
Maybe xshot roleblock? Considering vests in play there may be many abilities limited as xshot.

Sin
09-13-2014, 10:40 AM
Pass who did you visit bicboi?

Trigger Unhappy
09-13-2014, 12:43 PM
I got fruit from Pass. Its useless and doesnt do anything... unless its some kind of cult ability that makes me gay with him.. We need to hear from Brett and Mikey.

brett friggin favre
09-13-2014, 05:05 PM
nothing of value at this point.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-13-2014, 07:30 PM
hey all! I got results on pass. He is one fruity fellow. As i softed at the very begining of the day. Pass is 100% town, at least in my book.

phil.™
09-13-2014, 07:46 PM
So, either Mikey is telling truth and him, Brett and pass is cleared; or him, Brett and pass is all mafia and he is "clearing" them.

Seeing that may be very risky to claim, ima believe they may be cleared.
Anyone else?

Didn't cyber say he had a vest? Or did he just mention how he's shocked at how many people had vests?

Passarelli
09-13-2014, 09:37 PM
I'm going to go ahead and say I didn't get any message saying I was blocked night 1. If that is the case, there is very likely both a redirector AND a roleblocker.

I'm also going to say that trigger is most likely town.

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Also, I laughed out loud at this.


its some kind of cult ability that makes me gay with him.

It totally is Trigger. You are my catcher.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-13-2014, 10:17 PM
ima kick things off i guess
Vote Sin

Sin
09-13-2014, 11:18 PM
So Pass, you didn't visit Trigger?

phil.™
09-13-2014, 11:18 PM
ima kick things off i guess
Vote Sin

Reason? Just to kick things off orrr?

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-13-2014, 11:20 PM
Reason? Just to kick things off orrr?

/meta
Im positive he is scum. It is hard to explain. His behaviour and game play is nothing like what we have seen in other games. He hasnt once jumped at the chance to lead town.
meta/

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I'm going to go ahead and say I didn't get any message saying I was blocked night 1. If that is the case, there is very likely both a redirector AND a roleblocker.

I'm also going to say that trigger is most likely town.

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Also, I laughed out loud at this.



It totally is Trigger. You are my catcher.

pass did you miss my confirmation?
I know your fruity role, stop being so homo!

Trigger Unhappy
09-13-2014, 11:24 PM
He is confirming that he visited me. Again I received fruit which has no purpose apparently...

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Oh crap, just realized what that probably means...

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Anyway, Vote Hosh

He isn't really providing anything for town. Also the fact that Brett didnt die last night makes me think mafia is inexperienced.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-13-2014, 11:24 PM
He is confirming that he visited me. Again I received fruit which has no purpose apparently...

it does.. stop being close minded. I know pases role, i softed it to him prior to you saying you received fruit. Being that you can confirm having received somthing from pass, it also confirms my role. something you people were skeptical of D1.
Since passes role is like 99% often town, we can conclude that he is town.

You receiving an item does not clear you, despite what phil thinks.

phil.™
09-13-2014, 11:25 PM
Why the fuck does everyone keep saying homo. Pass, do you have a gay role, giving fruit...

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-13-2014, 11:25 PM
bret didnt die last night because cyber was surly going to protect him. Cyber softed way to hard at being a protective role. Which is another reason i am voting sin. Please read through the entirety of page 29.

Sin
09-13-2014, 11:29 PM
You're an idiot and focus on META more than Cyber does which is impressive.

This quote is the most important quote you can reference from page 29.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-13-2014, 11:31 PM
This quote is the most important quote you can reference from page 29.

or the fact that you were the only person aside from me to acknowledge cybers soft claim. Resulting in his death.
Mafia knew they couldnt kill brett with a protective role alive.
Why would mafia kill cyber? He was one of the most targeted townies, it would have been an easy lynch for mafia. No, they killed him because cyber softed doc.

Trigger Unhappy
09-13-2014, 11:32 PM
Also... Still wondering about Phil's lack of a post... What if he was turned into a "tree stump" N1?

Sin
09-13-2014, 11:33 PM
Nightkill speculation is usually unproductive.

SCRIBBLE
09-13-2014, 11:33 PM
Hmmmm... one of these things is not like the other.

Sin
09-13-2014, 11:33 PM
phil isn't the tree stump, Blackmage was. I figured there would be though.

Trigger Unhappy
09-13-2014, 11:33 PM
sorry wrong game.

Sin
09-13-2014, 11:37 PM
I'm going to go ahead and say I didn't get any message saying I was blocked night 1. If that is the case, there is very likely both a redirector AND a roleblocker.

I'm also going to say that trigger is most likely town.

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Also, I laughed out loud at this.



It totally is Trigger. You are my catcher.

What I got from this was that Trigger was not your intended target, Pass.

Confirm or deny please?

Trigger Unhappy
09-13-2014, 11:38 PM
it does.. stop being close minded. I know pases role, i softed it to him prior to you saying you received fruit. Being that you can confirm having received somthing from pass, it also confirms my role. something you people were skeptical of D1.
Since passes role is like 99% often town, we can conclude that he is town.

You receiving an item does not clear you, despite what phil thinks.

Yeah... no you posted 7 hours after I did telling people I received fruit from Pass....

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What I got from this was that Trigger was not your intended target, Pass.

Confirm or deny please?

I think I was... I specifically asked him to visit me earlier. He thinks there is a redirector because of what happened to Brett.

SCRIBBLE
09-13-2014, 11:47 PM
Scum would profit by asking a fruit vendor to visit them. Fruit vendors should be the one to select their target, not targeting according to request. Scum would clear a non power role townie and also make themselves less suspicious.

Trigger Unhappy
09-13-2014, 11:50 PM
Scum would profit by asking a fruit vendor to visit them. Fruit vendors should be the one to select their target, not targeting according to request. Scum would clear a non power role townie and also make themselves less suspicious.

Ahh fruit vendor wasn't familiar with that role.

Blackmage
09-13-2014, 11:50 PM
So, I read page 29 and saw our favourite known scum making sure the rest of the scum know where he thought the doc was. Good call on that page, Mikey!

Trigger Unhappy
09-13-2014, 11:56 PM
So, I read page 29 and saw our favourite known scum making sure the rest of the scum know where he thought the doc was. Good call on that page, Mikey!

So that would be.. what.. 2 town power roles that he has helped out so far... I must say keeping him alive seemed like a great idea.

Passarelli
09-14-2014, 12:16 AM
So, I read page 29 and saw our favourite known scum making sure the rest of the scum know where he thought the doc was. Good call on that page, Mikey!

LOL

Also Mikey, why did you look at me? I softed both my flavor and (neigh useless) role. It would most likely have been confirmed today when whoever I picked confirmed they got fruit from me.

I'm fairly sure that Trigger is town given his role and that he outed day 1.

Sin, the reason I think there is a roleblocker AND a redirector is that Trigger got a message saying he couldn't use his power. I did not. I'm guessing that night 1 I was redirected to someone put in jail since noone claimed fruit was given to them. I didn't think roleblocked targets usually got a system message stating as such, just that their attempt was unsuccessful and only if their role required such (as in a cop's investigation). That said, the role Trigger claimed shouldn't have gotten one of these (unless I'm very wrong about what he was claiming).

Sin
09-14-2014, 12:49 AM
If someone else was roleblocked Night 1 besides you, they would still receive your item.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-14-2014, 12:58 AM
Yeah... no you posted 7 hours after I did telling people I received fruit from Pass....

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I think I was... I specifically asked him to visit me earlier. He thinks there is a redirector because of what happened to Brett.

it hast even been 24 hours yet and you neglected to read the like.. 2 pages of posts?

Please reread. Stop being a fucking rere.

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LOL

Also Mikey, why did you look at me? I softed both my flavor and (neigh useless) role. It would most likely have been confirmed today when whoever I picked confirmed they got fruit from me.

I'm fairly sure that Trigger is town given his role and that he outed day 1.

Sin, the reason I think there is a roleblocker AND a redirector is that Trigger got a message saying he couldn't use his power. I did not. I'm guessing that night 1 I was redirected to someone put in jail since noone claimed fruit was given to them. I didn't think roleblocked targets usually got a system message stating as such, just that their attempt was unsuccessful and only if their role required such (as in a cop's investigation). That said, the role Trigger claimed shouldn't have gotten one of these (unless I'm very wrong about what he was claiming).

as i explained, by investigating you i accomplish 2 things. 1, make sure you are telling the truth about your role. Something the person you gifted could have confirmed in D! but didnt. Than 2, i know your role, you know i know your role. You can also confirm your role through trigg, thus confirming my role. Me being the hot topic of skepticism for pretty much the entire game.

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so, based off flavor we can conclude that who ever the asian guy is, is pretty much town.
Pass, you are soo fruity!

this was the second post after the night scene trigger.. wtf are you talking about 7 hours after?

phil.™
09-14-2014, 06:41 AM
Also... Still wondering about Phil's lack of a post... What if he was turned into a "tree stump" N1?


sorry wrong game.

Wait what? Don't use the "wrong game" excuse for my lack of post. I didnt and couldn't post day 1 for obvious reasons, which I am not allowed to say any further. Sin caught on and almost nailed it right on. Minus the tree-stump part. I post more in the other game than half of the other players. I dont even want to hear about the "wrong game" excuse. You won't convince anyone.

Seeing you and pass are talking back and for to each other in public, i'm starting to think you two are trying to clear each other? Despite what I said in my last post saying either brett and pass may be cleared, i said "may be cleared". Triggs, you working with pass on this? Yeah pass is "cleared" in mikey's eyes. But we dont even know if he himself is cleared, or even if brett is cleared. For all we know, there's more than 1 mafia faction, pass could be some weird mafia fruity gay guy that is also godfather and showed up innocent.

Fuck it's too early to think.

DJ_MikeyRevile
09-14-2014, 07:52 AM
Wait what? Don't use the "wrong game" excuse for my lack of post. I didnt and couldn't post day 1 for obvious reasons, which I am not allowed to say any further. Sin caught on and almost nailed it right on. Minus the tree-stump part. I post more in the other game than half of the other players. I dont even want to hear about the "wrong game" excuse. You won't convince anyone.

Seeing you and pass are talking back and for to each other in public, i'm starting to think you two are trying to clear each other? Despite what I said in my last post saying either brett and pass may be cleared, i said "may be cleared". Triggs, you working with pass on this? Yeah pass is "cleared" in mikey's eyes. But we dont even know if he himself is cleared, or even if brett is cleared. For all we know, there's more than 1 mafia faction, pass could be some weird mafia fruity gay guy that is also godfather and showed up innocent.

Fuck it's too early to think.

why you are scummy 101.

1. I know passes role
2. I softed passes roel in the second post of this day.
3. Trigger followed up with wht would appear to be cray cray accusations of getting fruit.
4. mikey knows he is third party, as does everyone else who has read this thread............................................ ........................
5. mikey knows pass is a fruit vendor, a roll pretty much useless to town other then eliminating from the suspect poll.
6. trigger, who is still new and dosne tknow any better, also knows this, at least after reading.
7. sin is mafia.
8. phil is still pushing after all these facts.

Passarelli
09-14-2014, 09:18 AM
Mikey, we already have a 3rd party survivor. Do you think blade would have stuck another in? I could go ahead and tell you Trigger's role, although I shouldn't. It was pretty easy to figure out from our conversation day 1.


Also Sin, the reason the item wasn't received is because I was likely redirected from Brett to Blackmage. Blackmage was completely gone night 1 and could not be accessed.

Blackmage
09-14-2014, 10:37 AM
4. mikey knows he is third party, as does everyone else who has read this thread............................................ ........................


Let's correct that:

Mikey claims third party, everyone knows he's scum who has access to Role Cop information, has outted a cop, found a second townie day 2. What we know is he's been harmful to town. What we DON'T know is that he's NOT mafia.

hoshiro-
09-14-2014, 10:45 AM
Wait what? Don't use the "wrong game" excuse for my lack of post. I didnt and couldn't post day 1 for obvious reasons, which I am not allowed to say any further. Sin caught on and almost nailed it right on. Minus the tree-stump part. I post more in the other game than half of the other players. I dont even want to hear about the "wrong game" excuse. You won't convince anyone.

Seeing you and pass are talking back and for to each other in public, i'm starting to think you two are trying to clear each other? Despite what I said in my last post saying either brett and pass may be cleared, i said "may be cleared". Triggs, you working with pass on this? Yeah pass is "cleared" in mikey's eyes. But we dont even know if he himself is cleared, or even if brett is cleared. For all we know, there's more than 1 mafia faction, pass could be some weird mafia fruity gay guy that is also godfather and showed up innocent.

Fuck it's too early to think.


Mikey is only a role cop, he doesn't actually know if they are innocent or not. He simply knows his role so he is purely speculating on pass's innocence. But fruit vendor is mostly a town sided role