Suessisum Role Madness

[Passarelli]

I am highly disappointed in this whole lot--
As much information has been flowing,
For this to end in such a clot,
hopefully, the winds of change will start blowing.
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Seriously guys, WTF. Here are the votes for today.

1. Mikey
2. hosh
3. Zambi
4. Minj - Mikey, Unvote, Nem
5. Nem - Mikey
6. Phil - Nem
7. Sin
8. Trig
9. Wolf - Mikey, Unvote, Mikey, Unvote, Phil
10. Cyber - Dead

4 out of 9 have voted so far (not even enough to Lynch if they all voted for the same person) in a little less than a week. Jesus Christ. I honestly don't know why people aren't being active. I haven't gotten any requests to be replaced.

If I do not see any further meaningful discussion, do not be surprised if the day ends tomorrow.

[hoshiro-]

Well... vote nem
It's something

[Nemesis]

You fucking retards. I'm the motherfucking cop.

Idiots.

[Wolfenstinger]

I don't know what else to add to here honestly other than why are they voting Nem now...

[Nemesis]

I don't know what else to add to here honestly other than why are they voting Nem now...

Because idiots.

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So, as cop things I know:
1. Sin is town or GF. Came up as innocent.
2. Mikey came up anti-town.
3. Far too many investigation roles have been claimed. Hosh somehow cleared Mikey, right? I'm on my phone so I can't go back, but that's fishy. Much them both.
4. Whoever did the thing night one knows I got shot last night and lost a vest.

[Wolfenstinger]

I'm not gonna reveal my role or or flavor yet, and I haven't finished reading the rest of the post. As much as I hate helping mikey out I can assure you guys mikey is indeed telling the truth

It was never "cleared" it's a "take my word for it".

[hoshiro-]

unvote
Well...you just pulled a cyber there... Not exactly the best thing to do

[Trigger Unhappy]

and hosh wont share his role or give a hint as to why he thinks Mikey is town...so do we trust Nem or Hosh? Hosh are you ccing Nem at all?

[Wolfenstinger]

unvote
Well...you just pulled a cyber there... Not exactly the best thing to do

Who just pulled a cyber...


I've not been in the past... many games? Nor am I in the other 2 games. So... I'm lost again.

[hoshiro-]

Nem pulled a cyber... Trig as nem has said countless times hinting is stupid. Specially mafia just found a power role. Stop trying to facilitate things scum

[phil.™]

unvote
So what I read was.

Option a) nem is actual cop, sin is town or mafia. Sin isn't active anymore. He's town. Mikey is 3rd party or mafia.
i) we lynch mikey, he comes up as town. Nem gets lynched next day. Hopefully we have more info also
ii) we lynch mikey, we he comes up as scum, doctor or healer protect nem or good luck nem.

Option b) nem is scum, which he may have outed out his partner to save himself (which I doubt he will pull that kind of stunt again)
i) vice versa what I said

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Possibility nem is mafia with a janitor, yeahhhh feasible and plausible. But his push for us to get into this game, I don't think he may be mafia.

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vote mikey

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Wolf, Unvote me now.

[minjae]

Unvote

LOL...well that escalated quickly...
Sorry Nem...uhm. I was trying to figure out whether or not you were town sided..but you didn't have to claim..:huh:

[phil.™]

Unvote

LOL...well that escalated quickly...
Sorry Nem...uhm. I was trying to figure out whether or not you were town sided..but you didn't have to claim..:huh:

So vote mikey or wolf.

[Wolfenstinger]

Unvote

Vote Mikey

You know I just like voting for you because you're easy right Phil? Besides, you still smell. :lmao:

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

NO this was what we needed. Nothing you said makes sense with what has already been discussed and i can PROMISE you phil is scum after that statement.

If phil is not scum, go ahead and lynch me tmrw and see that i am town.

Neither me or nemesis are fucking mafia, i have already explained this and provided ample proof. Lynching me will proof nemesis to be TOWN... not the other way around you nimwit.

Vote Phil

if you fools fall for that shit tastic post, i give up on all future games.

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for the love of fucking christ. BOTH ME AND NEMESIS ARE TOWN!

What dont you plebs understand?

Go and reread the god damn thread.

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I even called sin out as town prior to nemesis claim post... like how fucking stupid can people be?
Everything i have said, matches what nemesis has said, and i have said it prior to him coming out with a claim............................................. ...
He is Lorax
Sin is Town (due to his character name)
I pegged nem as cop during the "which is it" fiasco.
I even stated before any of those arguments started that i thought nem was town but wanted him to answer the simple lorax question to clear any doubt.

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and phils reason for saying "vote mikey or wolf now" makes no sense? Why vote wolf? Someone most of us have determined to be town?
You really do smell, phil.

[Nemesis]

unvote

Vote Phil

[phil.™]

Then why in the hell would you two bicker at each other for god know's how many pages, that many of us probably skipped through by the way, saying for us to lynch either one of you two.
Nem, you wanted us to vote mikey cause he's either mafia or 3rd party. You joining a random lynch wagon is scummy as fuck.

[Sin]

I'm still not comfortable with Mikey being Anti-town guys, but Phil that was a fishy ass post, with Nem pretty much cleared since there's no CC's we have a pretty decent strategy moving forward. Phil the wagon isn't random as it's based on your post, and as hunting for Mafia is priority over any 3rd Parties (most of the time) it's our best course of action right now.

If we lynch Phillatio then we can lynch Mikey tomorrow as he's anti-town.

VOTE PHIL

[Nemesis]

Simple Phil: I don't believe you're as fucking retarded as you're showing.

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And also I waited to see who would vote for me after I said GG, you were the first one. That, coupled with all your other tells, is pretty obvious.

[phil.™]

If you vote me, town will lose. Well probably not. I don't have a GREAT role, but my role is useful. Which is why I think we didn't have a kill night 1. I am basing my vote on mikey STRICTLY what I read and what I go out of your posts.

So we can either vote lynch me, get on with the fucking day (which is most likely going to happen) or we can either vote mikey or some other possible mafia, let me try my night action again and if we have a no kill again, chances are I know who the mafia is.

[Nemesis]

Well you've just soft claimed doc, so you're dead tonight anyways and you're useless to me. Lynch away.

[phil.™]

Well you've just soft claimed doc, so you're dead tonight anyways and you're useless to me. Lynch away.

No not doc. Use your head

[Nemesis]

No not doc. Use your head

Give me a hint...

[minjae]

Give me a hint...

LOL I dunno why I found that so funny.

[phil.™]

Give me a hint...

Right, and just out myself so mafia can choose between you and me to kill.

[Nemesis]

Right, and just out myself so mafia can choose between you and me to kill.

Oh I'm covered, literally.

[Wolfenstinger]

If you vote me, town will lose. Well probably not. I don't have a GREAT role, but my role is useful. Which is why I think we didn't have a kill night 1. I am basing my vote on mikey STRICTLY what I read and what I go out of your posts.

So we can either vote lynch me, get on with the fucking day (which is most likely going to happen) or we can either vote mikey or some other possible mafia, let me try my night action again and if we have a no kill again, chances are I know who the mafia is.

Smelly was in his room doing nothing Night 1. I even told Daddy about this. Don't lie.

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Unvote

[Nemesis]

lol ok that's pretty much confirmed. Phil is lying through his Mexican teeth.

[phil.™]

Dude, it's pretty black and white that i'm not mafia. And whoever still thinks I am, well then ok, good for you then.

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Oh, FYI, after 4pm EST, I will be non-responsive due to the Orioles game. ORANGE ALL DAY BABYYYYYYYYYY

[Nemesis]

Dude, it's pretty black and white that i'm not mafia. And whoever still thinks I am, well then ok, good for you then.

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Oh, FYI, after 4pm EST, I will be non-responsive due to the Orioles game. ORANGE ALL DAY BABYYYYYYYYYY

Let me translate, "I will provide you no information what-so-ever to explain my utterly scummy play and lack of contribution, however if you don't fall for my poorly constructed lies you are bad." This is also called "The Mikey Defense"

"Oh, and I am leaving now, to further illustrate my scummyness, good day to you!"

[Wolfenstinger]

Vote Phil


:horse:We've come back, one that smells!:horse:

[phil.™]

You guys really don't read much do you. Read through my posts.. I already soft claimed. You guys missed it.

[Nemesis]

You guys really don't read much do you. Read through my posts.. I already soft claimed. You guys missed it.

Which is why we've said idiots soft claim, and you're only making your case stronger.

[minjae]

I think I know what Phil is. It matches up with what he meant earlier too.
So if Phil is what I think he is, we still don't have anyone to vote on still.

[phil.™]

Go right ahead and lynch me. Right before I do, i'll let you guys know what I did night 1 so you can take that into effect as well.
We have what? 4 votes on me? And we need how many?

[Trigger Unhappy]

unvote

I will save my vote since I think Phil is at L-1. I'll wait for Nem's go ahead since he is the one I'm most confident is town.

[phil.™]

If i hard claim... This is how the following convo will go:



Nem: Yeah, you fucking nigger would claim that shit...
Sin: Philbert, that was so scummy to hard claim.
Mikey: Guis, i htink he's telling th truth but nem and I are both twn
Wolf: PHIL STILL SMELLS.
Trig: Hmmm, i'm confused.
Min: I dunno guys. Any thoughts? Thoughts? :banghead:

[Trigger Unhappy]

actually Sin or Nem.

[Nemesis]

actually Sin or Nem.

he's still refusing so go for it. Been useless up until now.

[Trigger Unhappy]

ok Vote Phil

[hoshiro-]

Phil was hinting roleblocker or jailer. A rb which is more often scum aligned. But anyway Is that a lynch?

[phil.™]

Phil was hinting roleblocker or jailer. A rb which is more often scum aligned. But anyway Is that a lynch?

DING DING DINGGGGGGGG. Not to the rb though. Jailer. Hence my "black and white" and "orange" all day comment. Black and white prison clothes, or orange jumpsuits yeah.

YUP, that's a lynch. GOOD LUCK TOWN.

[Nemesis]

DING DING DINGGGGGGGG. Not to the rb though. Jailer. Hence my "black and white" and "orange" all day comment. Black and white prison clothes, or orange jumpsuits yeah.

YUP, that's a lynch. GOOD LUCK TOWN.

And, like an idiot, you gave no info on who you jailed. Classic shitty play.

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Also, you haven't been lynched yet. We don't know that everyone actually has a vote, you may speak until told otherwise, so either you're lying or still useless.

[phil.™]

Oh you're right. I jailed zambi night 1, trig night 2.

[Nemesis]

So we can assume that since there were two hits night two, Trig isn't a killer. This does not clear him of any mafia relations though.

Phil, can I ask a simple question? WHY THE FUCK WOULDN'T YOU JAIL ZAMBI AGAIN???? There were no kills the first night and you pick someone else? For Fuck's Sake!

[phil.™]

For many reasons, there could have been a role blocker, a doctor, etc. That's why i wanted to try it this night.

[Sin]

This is A LOT of information for only day 2 people. Although we've got some good town reads on people.

Mikey = Anti-town
Zambi = Possible Mafia relation since no one was killed Night 1

But our Cop and now our Jailer have been outed, unless someone Counter-claims either of the two. Our votes are locked in and this is the Twilight phase, unless Nem is correct and someones vote doesn't count, but it's safer to assume that it IS Twilight and to hold off on giving Mafia any more information they could use to their advantage come Night 3.

Everyone shut the fuck up until we're 100% sure that it isn't a lynch.

[Nemesis]

unvote

just to be safe, since no one counted the votes.

[Sin]

I counted 5, which with 9 would make it a lynch. But just in case.

UNVOTE

[Nemesis]

Phil, just for the record, that was some of worst play I've ever seen. You totally fucked yourself over and, if you are actually town, the team. Simply utter shit play and one of your worse performances ever. Bad enough to rival Assassin's shitty shitty play.

[phil.™]

Phil, just for the record, that was some of worst play I've ever seen. You totally fucked yourself over and, if you are actually town, the team. Simply utter shit play and one of your worse performances ever. Bad enough to rival Assassin's shitty shitty play.

Pshh, i've seen worse.

[Nemesis]

Pshh, i've seen worse.

No, you haven't.

[phil.™]

If this wasn't a lynch, oh you will see worse. Trust me.

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So how's your day nem? Nobody gives a fuck about the mafia games these days, so let's give them something to read.

[Nemesis]

If this wasn't a lynch, oh you will see worse. Trust me.

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So how's your day nem? Nobody gives a fuck about the mafia games these days, so let's give them something to read.

Not bad, just hanging out at work. I know what you mean, these have been pretty dead lately. Maybe three at a time is too much? Maybe just one at a time with in depth roles and focused players.

[phil.™]

Not bad, just hanging out at work. I know what you mean, these have been pretty dead lately. Maybe three at a time is too much? Maybe just one at a time with in depth roles and focused players.

Maybe 3 is too much, doesn't seem like it. But with 3 games + real life stuff (especially football season starting) might be too much to handle. Even 1 game drags sometimes.
Doesn't sin play mafia game during work? Sin, how are you? What do you feel about 3 games at once?

[Sin]

We could go back to 1 game at a time, but there will still be lulls in gameplay when so many people are afraid to speak up and actually question players.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Actually the expansion into multiple games was originally meant to seperate new players from experienced ones. We could go back to that and have 2 games at maximum. It would also possibly get some new players to start.

[Sin]

Not a bad idea to have Newbie Games. Maybe it should be it's own section where we run C9 Setups.

[Nemesis]

Not a bad idea to have Newbie Games. Maybe it should be it's own section where we run C9 Setups.

The one I did went well, just other people starting doing games with mixed players so I stopped. Plus I had the wedding coming so I didn't want to start one and have to pass it off.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Yeah I think it went really well.

[Nemesis]

And it's not so much just for noobs, but games without certain personalities that like to strong arm all the time.

[I'm a zambi]

Hmm ... I don't really know what to say here. Jailing me N1 and having no kill is pretty suspicious. I can assure you that I'm not mafia but anyone would say that. What's funny about this whole thing is that I thought I was the reason no one got killed N1. :smirk:

Is there any mafia role that wouldn't allow for a kill N1? I can't think of one off the top of my head.

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My only counter to this, I guess, would be 'how do we know that what Phil is saying is true?' but that goes into WIFOM

Wolf said that 'father stunk up his own room', meaning he never left to visit someone. I'm assuming 'Phil smells', so jailing me N1 wouldn't make any sense since he'd have to visit me. If he is mafia he would know that I'm not and this would be a great way to throw suspicion on me, since there was no kill on N1. I guess if Trig comes in and says his action was RBed N2 we'll know whether or not Phil is telling the truth ... right?

[Nemesis]

Yes Zambi that does make sense. We have to boil down to who we believe.

If we lynch Phil and he's mafia we're good. If we lynch Phil and he's jailer we know wolf is mafia.

[Wolfenstinger]

If my father is reading ... he'll be happy to know... that... he has done nothing other than stunk up his room.


Phil isn't my father. Phil is the one that decided to make his room smell. Father is another being that isn't playing this game. Father is Lithuanian. Mother is a whore. But I'm told to not talk about Mother. She left us long ago... Grandfather is dead (at the moment). But enough about my very weird family...

[hoshiro-]

We gotta reach a conclusion sooner and later, right now my fos is on zambi
vote Zambi

[I'm a zambi]

We gotta reach a conclusion sooner and later, right now my fos is on zambi
vote Zambi
LOl





K :smirk:

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Did you even my post where I said we should see if Trig was RBed? If he wasn't then Phil is obviously lying.

[Sin]

Zambi, someone who is roleblocked doesn't know they've been roleblocked.

[I'm a zambi]

If he used his role and it didn't go through (say, stealing an item that he didn't get) then he would know. All I'm saying is we should wait for Trig to confirm Phil before we mass-miss-lynch me.

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For my role I don't know if I've been RBed but I can assume that I have been given certain circumstances (given the outcome of N1 I honestly don't know if I was role-blocked). I'm wondering if this applies to Trig. If he can't possibly know, then by all means go ahead and miss-lynch me. :smirk:

[hoshiro-]

well phil is hinting jailer which also blocks the person being defended

[Passarelli]

There were 5 votes on Phil with 9 alive at one point so that is the end of the day. Flavor will be forthcoming. Sorry for the late ending, my co-mod is slacking apparently.

Ending votes:

1. Mikey - Phil
2. hosh - nem, unvote
3. Zambi
4. Minj - Mikey, Unvote, Nem, unvote
5. Nem - Mikey, unvote, phil
6. Phil - Nem, unvote, Mikey
7. Sin - Phil
8. Trig - unvote (I fucking hate you. You made me reread the thread about 5 times trying to see who you had voted for.), phil
9. Wolf - Mikey, Unvote, Mikey, Unvote, Phil, unvote, mikey, unvote, phil
10. Cyber - Dead


Cease all conversation.

[Passarelli]

So much has happened today,
It had started in such a fierce foray.
However, the conversation went stale,
Their meager votes would not suffice
The chance of town lynching was rare,
you might have a better chance
Of taking a glance
of the comet Hale
not once, twice, but thrice.
The town decided to sleep
a week went by in a beep
they finally awoke
then they spoke
then summoned the horseman Pale.

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Phil, known as Thidwick the Big-Hearted Moose the town Jailkeeper, has been lynched.

Begin night 3. Please submit all actions as soon as possible. There is a 48 hour deadline in place.

Thank you all for picking the conversation back up. It wasn't that hard, now was it? ^_^

[BladeTwinSwords]

There were 5 votes on Phil with 9 alive at one point so that is the end of the day. Flavor will be forthcoming. Sorry for the late ending, my co-mod is slacking apparently.



I love you too lol.

[Passarelli]

Uh huh. At least town got that little bit of extra information at the end, so hopefully the discussion day 3 will be a little more constant.

[Nemesis]

These poems fucking suck.

[hoshiro-]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

yawnnnnnn

[hoshiro-]

Zzz any day now

[Passarelli]

Writing PMs and flavor now.

[Passarelli]

One Death
Two Death
Nem Death
Wolf Death

Where do they come from?
I can’t say.
But I bet they have come
a long, long way.

We see them come.
We see them go.
Some are fast.
And some are slow.

From there to here,
from here to there,
Funny things
Are everywhere.

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Nemesis, the Lorax, who was the Town Cop has died.

Wolf, aka Marco, who was the Town Voyeur has died.


Day 3 has Begun,
Now please go
And have some fun!
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PMs are incoming.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Does food coloring ring a bell for anyone? Think Dr. Suess stories.

[hoshiro-]

Green eggs and ham?

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And that clarifies that there are two killing roles

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Green eggs and ham?

If you were to associate food coloring with a character from dr suess, who would it be?

Why were the eggs green?

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I think it was Sam-i-am, who is portrayed as a prankster and probably the closest thing to a bad guy in Dr. Suess.
If we all concur, then i know whom we must lynch.

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Also, for anyone who still wants to hunt me down for a lynch, wolfs role confirms that i have not lied. It also confirms that i cant be a killing role.

[hoshiro-]

Hmm... To make an oobleck ( non Newtonian fluid) like in one of doctor suess's book then you would need some green food coloring

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Hmm... To make an oobleck ( non Newtonian fluid) like in one of doctor suess's book then you would need some green food coloring

Is it a bad thing?

Can anyone else think of anything from dr duess that correlates with food coloring?

[Sin]

Because idiots.

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So, as cop things I know:
1. Sin is town or GF. Came up as innocent.
2. Mikey came up anti-town.

Mikey, I don't know what you're trying to pull here, but it's right here in front of us. We should have lynched you Day 2.

VOTE MIKEY

[hoshiro-]

yes, it tried to take over the kingdom
sin...

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Mikey, I don't know what you're trying to pull here, but it's right here in front of us. We should have lynched you Day 2.

VOTE MIKEY

This isnt like you, i have provided ample evidence to prove my plea.
What im trying to pull right now?

I used my ability last night on a specific person and got food coloring. (i.e. i stole food coloring) Im asking town what they think that could mean because i have no idea.

Additionally, wolf, in the previous day soft claimied that he knew someone stole something, he then later claimed thawwt he knew i was the person who stole. Then after the stupid argument that revolved around a fucking hat, both nemesis and wolf claimed that the hat stealing was a lie and that wolf did not actually know what it was i stole.

If you continue to look back you will see that before any of the discussion i pushed for nem to reveal his character name, because i had stolen the item "Unless stone." In the Dr. Duess lore, the unless stone is an item that belogned to The Lorax, thus me knowing that nemesis was the lorax.

The fact that wolf knew i stole somthing, comined with the the knowledge we now have regarding his role and the fact that i admitted to being a theif, PROVE without a doubt that i cannot be a killing role.

So even if i were mafia, which i am not...

At this point in the game with as many people left alive... town NEEDS to hit a killing roles, as there is TWO killing roles still alive.

I cannot be the lynch target or town will lose, plain and simple.

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for those of you, like i HOPE sin, forgot.. i am a miller. Millers show up mafia when investigated by the cop.

Even then it is irrelevant because it is impossible given the concrete information we have, that i cant be a killing role.

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sorry let me re-word that

It is physically impossible given the evidence we have for me to be a killing role.
Even if it was a 1shot. There was two attacks two nights in a row.
I am claiming Theif + Miller.

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also, the plan pretty much entailed that we make N1 appear as if the doctor role protected someone. Then hitting hard N2 with a double kill. Throwing town into confusion. Betting on town seeing a double kill but never seeing any hit claims or the such Day 1.

Pretty much backtracking any foreseeable progress town would have made during D1.

[hoshiro-]

so with 3 townies dead that leaves us with seven player. And with seven players im guessing at least 3 are scum so if we dont lynch a scum tonight then its loss

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for town

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any one find it odd that cyber hasnt said anything

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nvm, cyber is dead

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nvm, im a fucking retard

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if there was two killing roles, would it be possible that cyber might have been scum and was killed by the other killing role?

[minjae]

Sin's constant vote on Mikey after all was said leaves me to believe he is mafia/scum. Has to be.

My FOS is on Sin, Trig, and Zambi. One of these may not be mafia/scum.

So for now, I'm gonna

Vote Sin

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Also, that's possible Hosh. It could be. To throw us off.

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Maybe the janitor cleaned up? Hrmmm

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As in his partner.

[hoshiro-]

i woudnt be sure that it was done to throw us off, i think it was just pure coincidence

[Sin]

Will give the thread a re-read, but Mikey you're a known Anti-Town Entity. You're a Thief, which is in essence a Flavor Cop. We already had a COP on Town side, HOW would it be balanced to have a COP role that gives alignments AND a flavor cop that gives hints to names?

Keeping around a fucking KNOWN Anti-Town in the game any longer than necessary is going against our win condition, hence the vote.

Oh, you stole "food coloring" from someone? Ohhhhh Noooooes! Or did you just think of an item that would out the partner that you're bussing, you scumfuck. You claim that you're a Miller, and your only support of this claim is that Hoshiro (magically) knows that you're a Miller?

This is hilarious.

[I'm a zambi]

also, the plan pretty much entailed that we make N1 appear as if the doctor role protected someone. Then hitting hard N2 with a double kill. Throwing town into confusion. Betting on town seeing a double kill but never seeing any hit claims or the such Day 1.

Pretty much backtracking any foreseeable progress town would have made during D1.
I'm sorry ... what!? Am I the only person who read this shit?

In case I had one up (doubt it) Unvote
Vote Mikey

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And yeah, since Hosh was so certain Mikey was 'clear', I'm going to have to second your motion, Sin.

FoS on Hosh for tomorrow's lynch.

[minjae]

You guys do realize its MyLo....we can't just lynch however we want..

[Sin]

That's why we choose the safest bet, Minj. Nem was going hard after Mikey until Hoshiro came to Mikey's rescue "vouching" for Mikey's Miller claim, and then once Phil brought the attention onto himself with that ridiculous post, it took the heat off of Mikey even more.

What are you basing your reads off of Minj? Everything Mikey says?

[minjae]

No...I'm basing it off of Phil getting lynched for voting Mikey...

[Sin]

And that was led by whom? Here let me show you in case you forgot: http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/12711-Suessisum-Role-Madness?p=190570#post190570

[hoshiro-]

Sin i can assure you that if you guys lynch mikey town will lose, because even if you lynch him he wont die

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if you really are town then i would refrain from doing so now

[Trigger Unhappy]

Sin i can assure you that if you guys lynch mikey town will lose, because even if you lynch him he wont die

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if you really are town then i would refrain from doing so now

Wait what? Now he is Miller, Flavor Cop and can't die from a lynch?

[hoshiro-]

i think i pretty much gave enough hints for my role

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and its not that he wont die, its that he will not die

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So sin or zambi unvote now, with 6 alive it takes 3 to lynch. I know mikey cleared you sin, and minj didnt hammer so for now i think he is town, i know mikey is town. So that leaves either trigger or zambi

vote zambi

[minjae]

It takes 4 to lynch no? But I really don't know about Sin. But my FOS on Zambi is still there.

Unvote

Vote Zambi

[hoshiro-]

4, I'm not really the smart type of Asian

[Sin]

With 6 Alive it takes 4 to lynch. So Mikey is 3rd Party Miller/Thief/Lynchproof? This is ridiculous.

Unvote

Vote Zambi

[Trigger Unhappy]

vote zambi

I dont trust Mikey because of the Phil vote, and I don't know what Hosh is softing.. but I guess we will know more tomorrow. I will go with the group.

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Zambi is at L-1 with my vote.

[hoshiro-]

No. You just hammered Zambi you scum

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I thought we all agreed not to hammer anyone anymore without giving then a chance to speak?

[Trigger Unhappy]

That was my mistake.. Fuck.... I didn't see the first vote on the other page..

[hoshiro-]

That was my mistake.. Fuck.... I didn't see the first vote on the other page..

right, you somehow read my post but didnt see my vote

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how did you fuck do you see minj vote and not see mine?

[Trigger Unhappy]

meant Minj...

[hoshiro-]

well, we now know who the other killing role is

[minjae]

LOL I hope Zambi is mafia/scum...cause if not, then ya know..

[Passarelli]

Cease discussion now.

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Out there things can happen
and frequently do
to people as brainy
and footsy as you.
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Zambi, also known as Horton the Elephant, the Town Bodyguard has been lynched!

Night 4 has begun!

Submit your actions within 48 hours.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

The the fuck would you let sin lead after his post about me.. you fucking people are retarded.

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I'm sorry ... what!? Am I the only person who read this shit?

In case I had one up (doubt it) Unvote
Vote Mikey

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And yeah, since Hosh was so certain Mikey was 'clear', I'm going to have to second your motion, Sin.

FoS on Hosh for tomorrow's lynch.

that was obviously meant for the other thread dumbo.

[hoshiro-]

zz mikey.... its night... dont get modkilledzzzz

[Passarelli]

Mikey, the Grinch who Stole Christmas, the Town Miller Thief has been slain for talking about the ongoing game at night!

Mikey, I expected you to follow the rules. You could have saved that post for the following day or when the game ended.

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Congratulations!
Today is your day.
You're off to Great Places!
You're off and away!
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Winners:
Sin, also known as the Cat in the Hat, the Mafia Godfather with 1x Janitor.
Trigger, also known as Sam-I-Am, the Mafia Poisoner.

Hosh, also known as Cindy Lou Who, the 3rd party Unlyncher with 1x Governor


MVPs:
Hosh - Did wonderfully. Did not have to reveal his role or use his power even though Mikey was revealed as anti-town. Lucked out that Nemesis was killed.

Mafia - Not positive who chose the kills, but they picked the right people with the exception of Minjae (who did not do well anyway)

LVPs:
Mikey - Stole items from both mafia members but did not connect that the Cat in the Hat is a pretty bad dude, or that Trigger was a poisoner.

Minjae - Gave vests to both mafia members rather than townies, which would have stopped the straight killings that mafia performed. He did allow Nemesis to hang around for an extra night, but didn't give him another after he was hit.

[hoshiro-]

Gg I won

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I totally knew sin was mafia and Mikey was a loss cost

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i just won 3 times in a row, thats a new record for me

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Cat in the hat was a bad dude?
I disagree with your assessment.

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you are fucking retarded pass.

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This game was bad and unbalanced as well.

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I also had sin pegged as mafia after he voted for me in that last day. I felt comfortable about trigg being mafia but wanted some input from town regarding the food coloring. To top it off the last person i stole from was hosh because i knew he was anti town after that stupid "mikey cant be lynched" post.

[hoshiro-]

you cant be lynched, i had my governor to protect you

[Sin]

LelelelelLOLOLOLOL

Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oNwBcGC-b8

[hoshiro-]

and to be fair, cat in the hat is about as bad sam i am

[phil.™]

I think we can all agree, I should have been in that LVP list.

[Sin]

Nah Phil, Mikey deserved it for Targeting you(leading to an easy lynch for us) as well as getting modkilled for being impatient.

[hoshiro-]

i was actually thinking of using my governor on you when you got lynched phil but i pretty much gave up on town

[Passarelli]

Mikey, are you serious? Cat in the Hat was nothing but a huge troublemaker. Not only that but he had an entourage which would make him a godfather. What role would you have made the Cat in the Hat?

As for it being unbalanced, let's see.

Town roles: Cop, Thief (miller), Voyeur, Blacksmith, Bodyguard, Jailkeeper, and Neighborizor.

Third party roles: Unlyncher (with miller as target) with 1x governor.

Mafia roles: Poisoner, Godfather with 1x janitor.

Not only that, I used epicmafia rules on vests so that it would increase how long poison takes to kill people.

In my opinion, this game was balanced more in town's favor then mafia's.

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Seriously, cry more Mikey. I feed off your tears.

[hoshiro-]

well for now i think we should make another begginer's game

[BladeTwinSwords]

well for now i think we should make another begginer's game

Now that I WILL host.

[hoshiro-]

Do a poll.

[Passarelli]

Nemesis and I already talked about it. We just need to figure out a setup.

[I'm a zambi]

Mikey, are you serious? Cat in the Hat was nothing but a huge troublemaker. Not only that but he had an entourage which would make him a godfather. What role would you have made the Cat in the Hat?

As for it being unbalanced, let's see.

Town roles: Cop, Thief (miller), Voyeur, Blacksmith, Bodyguard, Jailkeeper, and Neighborizor.

Third party roles: Unlyncher (with miller as target) with 1x governor.

Mafia roles: Poisoner, Godfather with 1x janitor.

Not only that, I used epicmafia rules on vests so that it would increase how long poison takes to kill people.

In my opinion, this game was balanced more in town's favor then mafia's.

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Seriously, cry more Mikey. I feed off your tears.
I have to agree with you on this one. This loss was all on us. I made a huge mistake N2 in who I chose to protect because I wasn't thinking at the time and that probably could have saved us an extra day (it was Nem).

And Mikey, my pointing out your fail of a post in this thread was because I thought you'd meant to send that to your partner via a private message but had two tabs open and instead sent it to all of us. Given you can't edit posts here, I figured you just let it be and everyone else had missed it.

I am confused as to what happened N1 though. I was jailed by Phil, so I my protection couldn't have gone through but we didn't have a doctor, so did mafia just choose to no-kill or what?

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Also, adding to my confusion, why did Mikey have two roles (Miller and Thief)? Was this done so that we would suspect him as a mafia-aligned thief?

[BladeTwinSwords]

New signup made.

[Trigger Unhappy]

Gg everyone.

[Passarelli]

Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qMApfEVFqQJTvgruwBnBIS3dp6S3lM-rBRLm4OgrpHA/edit?usp=sharing) is everyone's actions.

Nemesis was poisoned night 1. He would have died night 2 but had a vest from Minjae which is why he got 'hit'. This is why I was very clear to everyone who received a vest that they worked as epicmafia vests which delay poison. I have no clue why Minjae did not give him another vest after he claimed cop and that he was hit. Because of that, the janitor (which I had altered--I made it to where it would cover up all deaths in a given night when used) only covered up Cyber, and Nemesis died night 3. There was only 1 faction kill which could be poison or could have been a regular night kill. If Minjae would have given townies vests rather then mafia, or given Nemesis another vest this game may have ended differently.

Or if Mikey would have pushed harder on Sin and Trigger. Or if he wouldn't have suicided by talking about the game during the night.

[Sin]

Mikey was dead-to-rights when it was only Hosh that was supporting him as "Miller". We were counting on the Poison killing Nem Night 3, it was a gamble. We were going to use our kill on him that same night just in case, but decided on taking out Wolf since he could verify Mikey's claim (sort of). Took out the two cops and it was GG.

[minjae]

OK Pass. Keep calling me out. Cause apparently I KNEW that there was poison?...yeah ok.
LVP? Mmkay... Honestly for some reason I was wanting to give the hats to mafia to prevent night kills.
Had I known there was poison I would have played differently.
Apparently I hit both mafias which I don't think was bad. Again, if there was no poison.

Should have stayed with my gut and kept my vote on Sin.

Oh well, live and learn. Either way I'm done with mafia games for a while so GG.

[Passarelli]

Minjae, I didn't mean to be insulting. There were many people who kicked town in the shins in this game. When the claimed Cop calls hit, giving him another vest would generally be a good idea.

Also, giving both mafia a vest is not a good thing. Lynching them and giving vests to everyone else would be. You were handing out vests to people you thought were bad? I'm really not sure how to read your post.

[minjae]

I asked you what an epicmafia vest was, and you said that it can act as a bulletproof vest, delay poison, or even mafia nk.
It was on steam, so..

I looked it up, and couldn't find anything which is why I asked you. If someone has a link to an epicmafia vest, I'd appreciate it.

I didn't even focus on the fact it could delay poison. I was stuck on the fact that it could act as a mafia nk.

[Passarelli]

Block a night kill. Not act as a night kill. :banghead:

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Also, their wiki went down which is why I didn't just link you the appropriate information.

[minjae]

Yeah block a night kill....which is why I was focused on giving it to mafia.

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Did it even block any night kills? :huh:

[Passarelli]

I mean, if you thought it could do one of those 3 things, why didn't you ever tell me which of the 3 you wanted to happen? Did you think it would have been random, like some kind of half false inventor? I just don't understand what you are saying. >_>

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Block a night kill on the person that has it. IE if you gave one to someone mafia was going to kill, that kill would not go through.

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Not that the mafia isn't capable of killing once.

[minjae]

I'm confused. So what you're saying is that it didn't even block the night kills?

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Hrm....ok
Clearly I didn't fully understand it.

[Passarelli]

If anything and I mean ANYTHING ever seems odd to you, like this definitely should have, please please please ask for clarification using examples.

[minjae]

Oh well whatever. Like I said, live and learn.
If I understood it better, I honestly would have played COMPLETELY different.
Really. I would have.

[Passarelli]

You protected Nemesis for a night because he was poisoned. If you would have targeted Cyber with a hat, he would not have died because that night kill would have been blocked by the vest.

[minjae]

Well I get it now...but it's too late for that...I just wish you hadn't said "mafia nk".
I literally had no clue what epicmafia vest was. I even looked it up and found nothing. Maybe I didn't read correctly. Beats me.


And also, I'm not taking a break from mafia games cause I'm being a sore loser...I'm just busy with school work and can't give my all when playing mafia for now. My teacher's a douche bag that apparently likes to curve grades....downwards...the fuck? Apparently the whole class isn't supposed to get A's. There's supposed to be some D's, C's, B's, and only a small amount of A's.

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My thinking was that it didn't allow a night kill if I gave a hat to mafia. I got both mafia.
So in my point of view at the time, I was fucking golden.

[Passarelli]

I really wish you would have asked for clarification. Didn't it strike you as very odd that if it worked how you described you would have been uber powerful? If you targeted a townie, they would have 1x bulletproof (immune to most killing roles) or poison delay and if you targeted scum they wouldn't be able to kill anything?

Sigh, I really wish that you would have at least told me the reasoning behind why you gave them vests so that I could have stopped the problem right then and there.



As to your class, I would go to the student handbook. Usually curving down isn't allowed. It sounds like he is doing a bell distribution, but instead of making the course very hard (like a few profs I had) then plotting the students on a bell curve, he made it easy and is doing so.

I like bell distribution when the student average is around a 50%, but what you are saying sounds absurd. Have you talked to someone at the school about it or checked your schools policy for curving grades?

[minjae]

I wish I had too. Lesson learned. Not even mad.
A game is a game. Meant to have fun. I still had fun, just would have been more fun if I wasn't handing vests out like fucking lollipops.

But I'm going to make sure what I heard is what I heard, and if so I'll probably talk to the board or some shit.
He did get horrible ratings on ratemyprofessor, but he was the only teacher for night classes.

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I actually really looked forward to this game because of my role and what I THOUGHT it did....lol

[Passarelli]

Are you in a highly competitive program? I looked into it a little and it seems that some schools do this in order to ensure that a number of students are guarantee to fail. Usually this is mandated by the school and not the teacher. Even then, the teachers typically make their tests hard enough that the grades would be improved no matter the effort placed into them.


Grading on a bell curve is inherently unfair also. Typical distribution of student scores fall in two humps. One hump is high and includes students that put in a lot of effort, turned in their assignments, did their homework and studied. The other hump includes students that did not try. Depending on how difficult the course was, the second hump will be closer or further away. There will be outliers, of course, but usually a large % of students will fall within those two humps.

[minjae]

I go to a UMBC. The teacher did say that the school told him, and that he was only enforcing it. But to change grades? Fucked up.

I do have a test coming up on Monday. Gotta study study study. Hopefully I get at least a C.

[CYBER]

I'm confused. So what you're saying is that it didn't even block the night kills?

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Hrm....ok
Clearly I didn't fully understand it.


i think i chipped 2 molars cringing right now...

Nem and i had it all figured out , we had a fucking amazing plan. and #rekt by people that don't understand their role :(

[hoshiro-]

I go to a UMBC. The teacher did say that the school told him, and that he was only enforcing it. But to change grades? Fucked up.

I do have a test coming up on Monday. Gotta study study study. Hopefully I get at least a C.



You are Asian you not Bsian ,not Csian, Asian. So you have to get A plus

[Nemesis]

Wow minj, you really are dumb.

[minjae]

Wow minj, you really are dumb.

Why thank you. I'll take that as a compliment.

[Nemesis]

Why thank you. I'll take that as a compliment.

but really, you moved a step ahead of mikey for costing town the game here.

[CYBER]

i lolled...


also mikey, YOU ARE A MILLER.
the mere fact that nemesis straight up told everyone he got a scum investigation on u, u should be backing him up instead of making it sound like an ultimatum.
As a miller, i would have taken the damn hit.

Hosh went out to protect you for no damn reason, and specifically said that he was NOT a role cop, nor a neighbour (bcos i was duh), and u would know if he was ur own mason...
u did not convey ANY concerns to town as to how the hell he would call u a townie. but hey, ur goal was to stay alive and not die...

you dying would have proven that me and nemesis had a communication with a cop WITHOUT nemesis forcing himself to downright spell it out for u guys that he's the cop, when he could have pretended that it was me and i died or some shit so that he doesnt paint a target on his back. and it would have proven that wolf is a town because he's siding info with nemesis too and a lot of other information. ur death would have confirmed 2 and questioned hosh especially after he would have forced himself to use his 1 shot governor and cause a no lynch rather than lynching the jail keeper phil... but no, u had to put urself first and refuse to die AS A MILLER. ur entire existence in this game was to die lol...

also minjae, plz plz plz for the love of GOD ASK what ur role is, ask with the most detailed questions "so if i do this, can i do that? or do does it do the other thing?"
dnt be affraid to ask, ur lazyness basically cost us the game when u could have protected nemesis till the end of the game while he did cop investigations... that's "follow the cop" 101...

also... again, can we stop this goddamn trend of forcing a wagon each day 1 on me with no proof? i had a goddamn plan in motion with nemesis and i got jew'd over by having to out myself as a sort of investigation role just because i was trying to get a COP vibe to cc it and neighbourize them.
I got nemesis the cop on first try, and we were gonna play "filter the town reads" game where nemesis investigates ppl, get a town read, i invite them in, force them to claim or mass lynch them the nxt day, and then ppl would know that those neighbours are the trustees...

but of course,,, no one bothered protecting me when i FLAT OUT CALLED AN INVESTIGATION fucking role the day before i died and painted a target on my back ffs...
ppl with protection roels need to stop worrying about whether or not they are protecting a mafia, ZERO action = zero input = zero information regarding ur role interaction with other ppl's...

[minjae]

Ok...my bad shit.
That's pretty bad if I'm a step ahead of Mikey.......:banghead:

Let's just pretend my role was not important OR maybe even that I was just spectating. There. Problem solved.

[Passarelli]

Cyber, you had no idea Nemesis was the cop and neighborized him because he was pushing you so hard so stop pretending that you actually read him as a cop. You had said you thought Phil was the cop if I remember correctly.

Why would you want to CC a cop? Do you mean Role Switch? If so, you yourself had a VERY powerful role and I don't know why you would try to RS the cop when you had it.

Also, Mikey letting himself get lynched when he had the single most powerful investigation role is a bad idea. I mean I even put a unlyncher/governor to help keep him alive. The main reason Mikey got LVP is because he didn't try to feel out people's flavors and figure out which characters were going to be scum. The only valid point you made in your whole post is that he should have forced Hosh to claim instead of letting it slide.

I say he had the best investigative role because there were only 2 mafia and 1 was a godfather AND the town had a miller whereas the thief could get most of the roles and alignment from the flavor.

Also, I still don't agree that you didn't invite someone night 1.

Minjae, you played well if that role was as overpowered as you thought it was. Too bad it wasn't. That is how you got LVP. Live and learn. Do well in your class and hurry back!

By the way Phil, you probably would have gotten a MVP but you died too soon so I didn't get to see enough from you. You correctly roleblocked Trigger but Sin decided to make the kill that night then town decided to lynch you for some god unknown reason.

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P.S. Close this thread before you reply like you did to me in the previous one.