Unban GOD

[max225]

Name in game:: GOD
STEAM_0:0:26590325
Who banned you: CYBER
When:02-05-14 18:00
Where: GunGame MOD+
Map: honestly don't remember...
Why banned: Aimbotting (bullshit)
Link to ban: http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0%3A0%3A26590325+&Submit=
Other/Reason to unban: Used to play on that server every day for like 2 years. It was my favorite server until some butthurt admin decided I was aimbotting and permabanned me with no warning. I tried messaging him on steam but he blocked me (probably knew he made a mistake). Haven't been on in about six months. I stopped playing CS for a while after that and I am just getting back into it, wanted to play an IBIS server but couldn't. Thanks to everyone but Cyber, Cyber can go fuck himself.

[phil.™]

http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11882-God-steam_0-0-26590325

[Steamer]

Does the demo even work anymore? Remember, all permanent banning cases can be appealed for clan and or zeros review. This is clearly stated in the ULA guidelines. Doesn't happen often, and usually fails, some have proven they were not guilty though. You were never a "boss", but who am I? Come back bret! QQ lol

[phil.™]

Demo still works. I stand by my vote.

[swagbot 9k]

I will have to agree with Phil. While I don't have the experience in catching hackers, I believe that GOD here was aimbotting.

[SCRIBBLE]

I say no. Demo is the pudding and we all know where the proof is.

[Steamer]

I will give it a watch tonight. I don't think it would be fair for you, Phil, or cyber to give clan decision(even if it's "blatant") , you guys made the ban lol. Just trying to do whats right. =P

Is in the jello right?

[Rapedollar$]

No.

No..

No...

we need more lemon pledge...

[StarsMine]

I just watched it, The first kill with the awp was very suspect, just 100% straight up bullshit. the kill on lily though looked very legit, like something I would do, the shit after that though.... Eh... I dont feel comfortable saying that stuff is legit. that sensitivy is bat shit insane. It looks like he turned it down once he got to the SMGs which seems like an odd time to turn it down. Usually people turn sensitive up only when on a sniper.

Once he turned the sensitivity down it stopped looking like he was hacking, was the high sensitivity just a way to hide his aimbot? would be my guess

[rawrr]

Since this thread still hasn't been completely handled, i shall bump so it can get taken care of.

Now here's my two cents..
I'm gonna have to go with Brett on this one. Yeah he might have some quick movements and what not, but he still misses a lot of the time. Everyone gets crazy kills every once in a while, some more than others, and yet we don't ban them.

I know my vote means squat but that is my opinion on the subject.

[SCRIBBLE]

I will rewatch the demo tonight and weigh in on my previous decision.

[Steamer]

I will watch it too... When the woman stops chromecasting her damn shows...

[phil.™]

It's not the awp, aug or sig kills that I'm concerned about, it's his pistols. He's def playing with high sensitivity, very high as shown with awp and auto sniper, but his movement with dualies and gun after is fishy to me.

[Cougar]

I like reading these unban me and admin abuse threads sometimes because they can be amusing. When I seen one of the responses to this thread being a link to his permaban request thread, I checked it out, downloaded the demo and watched. I am nobody, but am very good at spotting hackers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNJaJeyQhOg

Watch that. This is the type of aimbot he is using. All he has to do is have his crosshair on or near the enemy and it will send the bullet to the head. There is no snap to head aiming like most aimbotters. He is clearly wallhacking too, he just doesn't aim directly through the wall at people directly, but close to where they are and then proceeds to go that way. Don't know why he is using no recoil, no spread as well when using an aimbot, but yeah, he is.

Spectating other players in the games, their bullets don't act the same as GOD's which is another bit of evidence. He pauses around 39000, toggles because he is on pistols, and the shots seem a bit more normal. Again, no snap to head shots, it is just the bullets doing the work, his crosshair's don't aim at heads.

[brett friggin favre]

I am nobody

you said it.

the demos we have here have proven to be problematic in catching this sort of aimbot unless it's very obvious, cyber and i looked into it ad nauseam. due to the lag between players and the server, player models in the demos are not where they appeared to be on the player's screen originally. the closer the player is to his opponent, the more obvious the difference becomes. from what i can see, his headshot percentage is no higher than could be expected from a legitimate player, while the aimbot in the video you posted would give 100% (or close to 100%) headshots, at least while he's toggled on. i'm not seeing it.

[CYBER]

i remember that one because i watched it more than 3 times AND was talking in admin chat with aco about this whole shit, and i'm rewatching the demo AGAIN now to confirm.

[CYBER]

update after watching all of it

i still stand by my original ban, to which two other ulas (now clan members) followed up on it .

guys, for those mentioning high sensitivity and/or lag.
I PLAY on the MAX sensitivity of 6300 dpi on my G700s AND on the shitty canadian isps where i feel like im always behind by like a full second (i have posted snapshots of my netgraph and demos of the sorts before, at the time of ban), and TRUST ME, this is NOT high dpi shit.

His going from "too much crosshair movement" into 100% steady at random times is inconsistent of a mouse high sensitivity,
his lily killing was NOT a spray and pray, pay closer attention to the crosshair movement on the lily kill, it's a perfect symetric back and forth cross motion,
his shot on me ? it's a nice shot, i'll give him that, but the reason why i went to spec after it was because aco was already in spec telling me about that guy possibly hacking, and i remember scrolling to his v_view whenever i died before that death and seeing him having "inconsistently all-over aim", and then BAM full-on steady shot to the dome the second i show up on screen? it made me go wtf, and went spec afterwards.

and shocking, the second i go to spec, his "lag and high dpi" surprisingly drops and now he's playing smoothly? OK.
after i joined spec, all he did was spraying on chests for the rest of the time, and intentionally spraying walls for fun "post kill" and at end round, which is not what he was doing before i went to spec...

oh and then the pistols .... good lord those pistols... that dualies into compact into deagle.... after that early game of his ? yeah ok.

For me at that time it was clear that he knew i went to spec to watch him, and that his reason to joining the server was to load up his aim and tweak it and testing it before moving on to his intended servers... which reminds me : why wait SIX FUCKING MONTHS to post an unban thread? mmm??
if you claim to be innocent at the time and never bothering with posting an unban thread at the time?

Also, i don't accept friends invites from random people i don't know or haven't had lengthy conversations with, so don't go flattering yourself that i would chose to block you because " i felt like i made a mistake", that's a bullshit strawman argument like i've never seen before.



side joke : my demo crashed just now when loading the lily tick at 23k, and i had to reload cstrike again to watch.
for those who know my history of bans and that inside joke, whenever my demo crashed at a specific tick, it's usually where a hack took place (that's a non-related joke, but surprisingly damn consistent, brett remembers that shit im sure lol).

so blah blah,
i stay by my original ban of you using aimbot and using our servers to tweak it at the time.

[Steamer]

Why isn't source tv raw...? Not the first time I'll ask, not the last. Personally, inconclusive due to technical problems.

[Steamer]

Not resolved, unless you are zero, don't close. I'm going to give it a THIRD watch, but I just don't see 100% although sketchy as hell.

[brett friggin favre]

Why isn't source tv raw...? Not the first time I'll ask, not the last. Personally, inconclusive due to technical problems.

it can't be due to how the game compensates for lag on the client side, and even individual mouse movements won't always be 1:1 because there's always the element of lag between the player and the server which records the demo. the difference is usually slight, but at increasing ping and decreasing distance between two players, it can be misleading.

btw, my previous post and the one above it were showing up as "moderated posts" and were hidden until i approved them. mine was showing as moderated as soon as i posted it. not sure what that was all about.

[Steamer]

I know what interp is. No clue why that's happening.

[Steamer]

Zerooooooooooo

[swagbot 9k]

it can't be due to how the game compensates for lag on the client side, and even individual mouse movements won't always be 1:1 because there's always the element of lag between the player and the server which records the demo. the difference is usually slight, but at increasing ping and decreasing distance between two players, it can be misleading.

True, but isn't there anything we can do to minimize that? What good is Sourcetv if it isn't an accurate report of what goes on in the server? This plus not seeing chat hinders our ability to prove or disprove accusations.

[maynard]

closed. not sure wtf is going on here... a thread shouldn't call for multiple reviews of evidence. stand by what you said. multiple clan have said hacks, ULA have said hacks. if this guy wants to further appeal the decision he can PM zero and let zero handle it from there.

resolved closed. and again, you can PM zero if you'd like.