Sensei the little guy who bought admin to ban us

[1iam]

Admin's INGAME name: Sensei
You're INGAME name: liam
Server: pub #1
Map: dust1
Date & Time: 3/11/2015 5:09pm est

How did he/she abuse (See TOS): Sensei aka the guy who bought admin to ban my friends and I did it again. 60 minute ban for "ignoring admins." He told us that we were not allowed to only use knives when the whole server was only using knives. So he decided this was a good reason to ban Get dunked on! and I.. Just because sensei payed 11$ monthly for admin on your server doesn't mean he should be allowed to keep admin after falsely banning us 3x...

[sup]

#freesensei

[maynard]

our rules are that if the entire server is on-board for knife only.. it's fine... if someone isn't... it's over. our servers aren't listed as knife only, and we can't force someone to do something that are server weren't created for.

kinda confused on this though as to why you were banned.... he could have just used guns if he wanted... it's not like he was trying 2 enforce a knife only rule...

[GetDunkedOn]

#NoFunAllowed
I would also like to add he said i was being banned for "Not Doing the mission or objective"
Is that really part of the rules for not "following the mission"?
I'm a sperg, so go lightly on me

[-Whitey-]

Alright, I can understand where you coming from slightly on this, but regardless there are no weapon restrictions other than awps or autos. Autos are 100% restricted and awps enable when there are 3v3 or more.

Aside from a ban history, do you have proof to backup this occurrence?

[1iam]

Yea I have no idea why we were banned. He's falsely banned my friends and I 3 times now... We were all just knifing each other, didnt care if someone used a gun.. just having fun lol. Apparently to him, having fun is against the rules..

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I don't know how I could have proof whitey, he said over voice chat that he was about to ban us and banned us before I could record demo.. sorry.

[maynard]

the objective must be completed.

[1iam]

the objective must be completed.

We were killing each other, wasn't always me with the bomb so couldn't always plant.

[maynard]

post the demo

[-Whitey-]

Yea I have no idea why we were banned. He's falsely banned my friends and I 3 times now... We were all just knifing each other, didnt care if someone used a gun.. just having fun lol. Apparently to him, having fun is against the rules..

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I don't know how I could have proof whitey, he said over voice chat that he was about to ban us and banned us before I could record demo.. sorry.

We have great resources here at IBIS. All you have to do is look. ;)
http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/8582-Complaint-amp-DEMO-Tutorial

[General Server Rules] http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/495-General-Server-Rules-1-7

[Sensei]

Both players were banned after being warned several times to play the mission and carry out the objective and not to shoot each other.. Here is the link to the demo: ftp://pub1.ibisgaming.com/auto-20150311-165503-de_dust.dem

These players have a history of disrespect to Ibis and Ibis admins. They are just trying to push their limits to see what they can get away with and most importantly they are killing the joy of all other player's gameplay by not playing the mission. Making all good decent players leave the server.

[Xerenix]

I was there at the time.

As i said Sensei, they weren't really breaking any rules nor where they camping for a long time. They did shoot each other however since both of them seemed to be in on it, that wouldn't really be against the rules.

Not sure about the rules of Pub but i figure it's the same as WCS in regards of completing the mission/objective that there is no set time limit but you need to do it before the time ends.

[-Whitey-]

Both players were banned after being warned several times to play the mission and carry out the objective and not to shoot each other.. Here is the link to the demo: ftp://pub1.ibisgaming.com/auto-20150311-165503-de_dust.dem

These players have a history of disrespect to Ibis and Ibis admins. They are just trying to push their limits to see what they can get away with and most importantly they are killing the joy of all other player's gameplay by not playing the mission. Making all good decent players leave the server.

Can you present the specific ticks in the demo where this incident occurs?

[Sensei]

Xerenix there is much more happened before you join. I am watching the demo myself right now taking tick marks.. I'll be back with all tick marks in 15 minutes.

Right from start:

2200 - Dunked On & S. wounding each other
3200 - Dunked On & S. avoiding gameplay on purpose, lengthening the game.
4700 - Dunked On & S. wounding each other (start of next round)
5500 - S. TKs Dunked On
6000 - Dunked On freezes S. (Another method they use to lengthen the game and kill the joy of players. since they dont care and making players leave is their purpose they kill each other and the dead one freezes the other so that guy has an excuse for the admin..)

This is what I watched so far.. Will return with more tick marks..

[Some0ne]

Hang on why am I getting dragged into this?

They shoot me I shoot back
I don't like taking team damage

[1iam]

we were just messing around when we were shooting each other lol, i only knifed one other person because he stood in my way/blocked me.

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also we were not making the rounds longer, that is impossible unless you plant the bomb at the end of the round.

[GetDunkedOn]

:^) Meme Team 2015

[Xerenix]

Xerenix there is much more happened before you join. I am watching the demo myself right now taking tick marks.. I'll be back with all tick marks in 15 minutes.

Right from start:

2200 - Dunked On & S. wounding each other
3200 - Dunked On & S. avoiding gameplay on purpose, lengthening the game.
4700 - Dunked On & S. wounding each other (start of next round)
5500 - S. TKs Dunked On
6000 - Dunked On freezes S. (Another method they use to lengthen the game and kill the joy of players. since they dont care and making players leave is their purpose they kill each other and the dead one freezes the other so that guy has an excuse for the admin..)

This is what I watched so far.. Will return with more tick marks..

And yet you banned Dunked on and liam, not S. As said, they are not forced to do the mission/objective as quickly as they can, just before round ends.

I joined under different name and i saw Liam and Dunked on shooting each other/killing each other but since both seemed to be messing around with each other, it can't really be counted as breaking the rules.

[Sensei]

Here are the ENTIRE LIST of tick marks:

2200 - Dunked On & S. wounding each other
3200 - Dunked On & S. avoiding gameplay on purpose, lengthening the game.
4700 - Dunked On & S. wounding each other (start of next round)
5500 - S. TKs Dunked On
6000 - Dunked On freezes S. (Another method they use to lengthen the game and kill the joy of players. since they dont care and making players leave is their purpose they kill each other and the dead one freezes the other so that guy has an excuse for the admin..)
7600 - Dunked On stays at spawn, wounds teammates, avoids gameplay
10300 - Dunked On again avoids gameplay, goes back to T side, drops bomb on purpose although he is the last player alive on his team to avoid the mission objective
19300 - Dunked On wants to knife Psychedelic so S. (while being on the same team as Psychedelic) knives him in the back. PLS watch carefully as this also shows how these players act towards Ibis admins..
27700 - Liam and Dunked On starts wounding each other at start
27860 - Liam TKs Dunked On
28010 - DunkedOn freezes liam (same tactic to kill the joy of players and tire them to make the leave of boredom)
30700 - I warn both players CLEARLY and tell them to play the mission.
31200 - liam and Dunked On DISREGARD my warning and stay at spawn.
34180 - liam is slapped with 50 point deduction
34280 - Dunked On is slapped with 50 point deduction
36800 - liam and Dunked On starts round by throwing their weapons
37220 - liam wounds Dunked On
40000 - Although he has the bomb, liam avoids mission objective and returns to T side of map
42650 - liam starts wounding Dunked On
43850 - Liam and Dunked On starts avoiding gameplay again
46150 - Both players hear my reasoning and advice on their ban and I say: Ok, I warned you both to play the mission. I am going to give both of you an hour to think about the way you play this game.
48400 - Both players banned for 60 minutes

I encourage all fellow admins to watch the full length from start to 48400.. Also, please make a search about these players in forum. Check their history and their posts..

THIS IS WHY WE ARE LOSING PLAYERS FROM PUB SERVER!!

Best Regards

[Some0ne]

The reason you lose people on the server is because abusive admins ban Good/decent players calling them cheats and hackers( me as an example )

Admins do a very good job banning hackers but not so much helping their player base expand.

Strict as fuck admins don't allow any sort of "Fun" or different forms of play then the norm

[-Whitey-]

The reason you lose people on the server is because abusive admins ban Good/decent players calling them cheats and hackers( me as an example )

Admins do a very good job banning hackers but not so much helping their player base expand.

Strict as fuck admins don't allow any sort of "Fun" or different forms of play then the norm

That is not true at all.

A majority of the admins here are the most friendliest people you ever meet. It's until you shit on our carpet that we have a problem.
We have a very large playerbase. They mostly call the ZM and GG server their home.

You can find the server stats here:
[GunGame] https://www.gametracker.com/server_info/208.43.70.233:27015/
[Zombie] https://www.gametracker.com/server_info/208.43.70.234:27015/

I'm not strict whatsoever. But I pity intentional team attacking and team killing more than anything in the world.

[GetDunkedOn]

Your losing player because.... #Nofunallowed
:^) loosen up a bit and chill out dawg

We are attacking each other because you know
friends can mess around with each other
we didn't attack any teammates or people that we didn't know
And if I did
I apologize but come on now
Attacking friends, knifes and having fun
is that really a banable offence?

[-Whitey-]

Your losing player because.... #Nofunallowed
:^) loosen up a bit and chill out dawg

There is no fun in team attacking/killing or not completing the objective. See my post directly above yours for further reference. The only players we lose are the ones that get permanently banned.

[maynard]

There is no fun in team attacking/killing or not completing the objective

This... you're fucking retarded if you claim diff... This isn't Gmod... this isn't a a mini game server...

[-Whitey-]

This... you're fucking retarded if you claim diff... This isn't Gmod... this isn't a a mini game server...

For you Maynard:

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Your losing player because.... #Nofunallowed
:^) loosen up a bit and chill out dawg

We are attacking each other because you know
friends can mess around with each other
we didn't attack any teammates or people that we didn't know
And if I did
I apologize but come on now
Attacking friends, knifes and having fun
is that really a banable offence?

Like I said, refer to my post at the top of this page.

"and if I did".. this already implies that you did, and I will be very disappointed when I end up watching this demo if that is the case, because I already wasted my time trying to resolve "S." ban where he stated the terms "fite me" like we were in junior high school. I'm not a student anymore. Don't treat me like one; respect and be respected -- it's really that simple.

"Attacking friends, knifes and having fun
is that really a banable offence"

I'll say it one more time, this time I'll say it with more clarity..

Team attacking and team killing is not fun.
It is a bannable offense.

Not doing the objective by the end of the round causing other players to sit there and wait, and wait, and wait -- hold on.

And wait, and wait, and wait, and wait, is not having fun.
It is a bannable offense.

[Xerenix]

I still disagree,

I watched the demo.

I joined the game at 4k under the name Billy, why Billy? Because i was too tired to think of a name and had a bill on my desk. No where did they not do the objective by the end of round, they camped yes but not extremly long that warranted a warning/ban. Also no where in the rules do i see that you need to hurry to the objective.

Since when do we dictate what players consider fun on the server? If they had attacked the other players in the team, yes a ban would be fine however they are friends that mess around with each other. Not once did i see them complain about the team attacks and they didn't hinder the other players gameplay. I don't see them doing things to only each other stops people from playing on Pub.

Once again my opinion differs from yours Maynard :P

[Sensei]

This... you're fucking retarded if you claim diff... This isn't Gmod... this isn't a a mini game server...

:wtg: I'm lost for words.. Thank you..

[JaX]

Oh my, didn't realize people still played on the pub server, lol. just catch it when the traffic is real low I guess.
I never see anyone in there though.. as for the #Nofun go to the zm server, that's where the killas' hang. :D

[maynard]

I haven't stated an opinion, I've stated our rules. TK is not allowed and completing the objective has always needed to be done. I've not watched the demo and am not saying any one person is at fault, just clearly stating our rules.

[Sensei]

I haven't stated an opinion, I've stated our rules. TK is not allowed and completing the objective has always needed to be done. I've not watched the demo and am not saying any one person is at fault, just clearly stating our rules.

Manyard, I am looking forward to see your post after you watch the demo with all the tick marks I mentioned..

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Oh my, didn't realize people still played on the pub server, lol. just catch it when the traffic is real low I guess.
I never see anyone in there though.. as for the #Nofun go to the zm server, that's where the killas' hang. :D

And Jax yes ppl still play in pub server and I would love to see all joining in more.. Including you.. :wtg:

[maynard]

ill take a look this evening unless another clan gets around to it. on my way to work. was just clarifying our rules as it felt xer figured I watched the demo and wanted to clarify I haven't.

[maynard]

No abuse found.

You're tking and not completing the objective... would have banned you myself If I saw that. Read our rules and follow them.

resolved, closed.