STEAM_0:1:9243097 | shirtless | 3:34 PM | 8-30-2015

[Assassin]

Name in Game: Shirtless
Steam-ID: 0:1:9243097
Where: WCS
Link to ban:
Reason for perma ban: Obvious toggleing. 9813

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Will get ticks in a second. Although the on top of the assault building with the two hs's and the tracing right before it of the almost invis human should be enough.

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2986 tick autotraces and hs.

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3261 snap hs.

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11325 and around there is the double hs. ...etc...that should be enough to see he's toggeling.

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Uh not really sure how to link to the ban but he's the top one right now on source bans page.

[StarsMine]

hoh boy looks like one I will actually have to look at

anyways
http://www.ibisgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:1:9243097&Submit

This is a personal demo not the server's demo right?

I attached what should have been the proper demo so we dont have your lerp and ping fucking with things

[Assassin]

Yupper stars.

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FYI i have 30/5 internet too...so lag jokes can go -------------->

[StarsMine]

First two ticks looks like lag to me, he shot exactly where the guy was. no pull, no trace, no snap. Second one does look wonky though I see not much in the first.

11325, there isnt anything questionable at all, the second head shot the models were inside of eachother thats hard to judge.

Im using the server demo, not the personal demo where the first kill happens at 3600 tick

Also fix your ban length

From this demo, I do not see aimbot.

Lag does not come from bandwidth issues assassin, it has to do with the route, dropped packets, the lerp, the fps, etc.

For future reference, sv_showimpacts 1 will show where shots actually hit, and r_drawothermodels well let you wall hack so you can see if they ever trace (indicating wallhacks obv)

[-Whitey-]

You're wasting your time dude.. Just as you said "in position" was toggling earlier today.

Togglers are extremely rare nowadays. Better to not even keep an eye out for them because they eventually get fucked on their own.

Shirtless does not. He is just a serious try hard. You just catch him at bad times. He knows source TV is there.. He plays on all of our servers. Why would he toggle?

[Joker]

I have viewed both demos, the one that stars and assaasin posted.
@ assasin tick 2986 on your demo he's lagging. Atleast from your view, but that tick is equal to tick 3500 in the sourceTV demo and in the sourceTV demo he's smooth and isn't autotracing at all.

tick 3261 on your demo he's skipping around, in the SourceTV demo it's tick 3800 - 3900 and it's completely smooth and has no snapping involved it was completely fluid movement.
tick 11325 is equal to tick 12k on the sourceTV demo and during that whole time it was very fluid movement. He didn't snap and he wasn't tracing at all.

this is proof that your demo is lagging/skipping around and although it personal demos are sometimes nice to have, but they are subject to your latency, interp, A.K.A. your connection to the server and your FPS how fast your computer can process the information.
SourceTV is the solution to that and is the only way to rule out all of those variables. In the SourceTV demo he's not hacking


I would vote NO

[Assassin]

You're wasting your time dude.. Just as you said "in position" was toggling earlier today.

Togglers are extremely rare nowadays. Better to not even keep an eye out for them because they eventually get fucked on their own.

Shirtless does not. He is just a serious try hard. You just catch him at bad times. He knows source TV is there.. He plays on all of our servers. Why would he toggle?
That's an incredibly dumb question to ask. So we just stop looking for hackers because someone else will catch them eventually? Dumb.

[$Money$]

This guy remind me of loveglove on GG, You know he hacks just hard as hell to prove. :reddot:
Hopefully Cyber will weigh in since im sure hes played with the guy before.

[StarsMine]

This guy remind me of loveglove on GG, You know he hacks just hard as hell to prove. :reddot:
Hopefully Cyber will weigh in since im sure hes played with the guy before.

That sounds very biased, we dont know he hacks, some people just think he does. We dont know you dont hack either, because you cant prove a negative.

[What]

Predator wants to be a pro, over 5,500 hours on CS. Likes to "learn" the game and take advantage of it. Is he a douche? Yes. Is he fun to play with? No. Does he hack? No.

[swagbot 9k]

This guy remind me of loveglove on GG, You know he hacks just hard as hell to prove.
Hopefully Cyber will weigh in since im sure hes played with the guy before.

Agreed.^ This little ass goblin has been banned a few times by admins who thought he was hacking, and by voteban for hacking. I would like to point out the round that starts around the 10k click. If you put sv_showimpacts 1 and r_drawothermodels 2 on, you can clearly see him avoiding another player as if he can see where that player was, then walk around up the ramp and blind side them. That right there is the fishy thing I have seen. This child has some sort of radar/wall hack.

As for those naysayers... If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... well.. you know the rest.

[Joker]

Agreed.^ This little ass goblin has been banned a few times by admins who thought he was hacking, and by voteban for hacking. I would like to point out the round that starts around the 10k click. If you put sv_showimpacts 1 and r_drawothermodels 2 on, you can clearly see him avoiding another player as if he can see where that player was, then walk around up the ramp and blind side them. That right there is the fishy thing I have seen. This child has some sort of radar/wall hack.

As for those naysayers... If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... well.. you know the rest.

I was talking it over with stars and I think he's not wall hacking or aimbotting at all, and just a heads up swag he could clearly hear the person on the ramp. If you turn up your volume you can clearly hear him walking and then he shot before he got anywhere near the start of the ramp so shirtless could hear he was over there.

[StarsMine]

Agreed.^ This little ass goblin has been banned a few times by admins who thought he was hacking, and by voteban for hacking. I would like to point out the round that starts around the 10k click. If you put sv_showimpacts 1 and r_drawothermodels 2 on, you can clearly see him avoiding another player as if he can see where that player was, then walk around up the ramp and blind side them. That right there is the fishy thing I have seen. This child has some sort of radar/wall hack.

As for those naysayers... If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... well.. you know the rest.

Its a good thing he doesnt walk or quack like a duck, past bans of hacking that are overturned are not indicative of a player hacking. Otherwise we should add brett, or fluffy to the ban list.

I am all for banning hackers, obviously, but you need proof, not "I dont like this guy, he kills me alot." Thats not good enough.

[Assassin]

Its a good thing he doesnt walk or quack like a duck, past bans of hacking that are overturned are not indicative of a player hacking. Otherwise we should add brett, or fluffy to the ban list.

I am all for banning hackers, obviously, but you need proof, not "I dont like this guy, he kills me alot." Thats not good enough.

I don't do that. Many people kill me a lot and I don't accuse them of hacking. I mean if I'm wrong I'm wrong

[swagbot 9k]

Ahh Joker I see what you meant. Apologies. He has a stink to him though, and while previous overturned convictions aren't enough, they provide some background into what could be. btw, you're untouchable are still hackers stars. Nothing you say will ever change that.

[StarsMine]

Ahh Joker I see what you meant. Apologies. He has a stink to him though, and while previous overturned convictions aren't enough, they provide some background into what could be. btw, you're untouchable are still hackers stars. Nothing you say will ever change that.

Im bitching at swagbot, not you assassin, because of shit like this. Overturned bans dont give ANY background info except admins get things wrong.

[rawrr]

Sorry dude, gotta vote no on this one.

[Rosie]

Everything looked smooth to me. I have thought the same thing before, but may just accept that he is just better than 99%.

[SCRIBBLE]

I have limited internet availability when I'm not stateside and just wasted 7MB of data on a so-called "controversial" ban.

Permaban request denied. Unban him, post that you did, and close this.

[rawrr]

Unbanned
closed