Donald Trump is a serious contender for presidency in 2016

[jwtemp]

Looks like Trump is going to take Super Tuesday today to be the Republican nominee for president. The Democratic nominee is expected to be Hillary Clinton after tonight.

This is terrifying to me for multiple reasons. Discuss.

[StarsMine]

Hillary is hated, not as hated as trump. Trump support is narrow and deep, majority of republicans hate him, majority of independents hate him. The question is, does that majority hate him more then hillary? im going with yes.

[jwtemp]

I loathe Donald Trump. He is literally the antithesis of everything I value - xenophobic, racist, extreme capitalist, liar, thief, thug, arrogant and, worst of all of these, incredibly wealthy not because of some kind of gumption or ability or intelligence or hard ass work, but instead because of the broken state of our wealth, inheritance and capitalist system in America.

I'm not a huge fan of Hillary. True career politician - deceptive, conniving, ruthless, liar, thief and indebted to corporate America and Wall Street more than anyone likes to talk about. Her policies are pretty much ho-hum politician too - we wouldn't see much major change under her presidency, it would likely be status quo. But I swear I would vote for a Goddamn monkey before I voted for Donald Trump

Seriously - a reality TV star and racist bigot is leading the polls, about the clinch the Republican nomination and could truly be President of the United States of America. It's so surreal. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I think that a majority of this country would ever want that man to be their president.

Then I remember most people make up their mind about their vote because of a campaign slogan or a buzzword, and don't actually do concrete research or fact checking, and it occurs to me that people are voting for him simply because 'he's going to make America great again.' It's a joke. A ruse. It's a campaign run on hatred and anger, appealing to fears and bias, and the hayseeds are eating up that slop like it's the second coming.

Make room Canucks, you potentially have many new residents moving in come November.

[Nemesis]

Man, just goes to show how fucking stupid Americans are.

[jwtemp]

Man, just goes to show how fucking stupid Americans are.

I can't believe I'm actually going to say this... I think you're right Nem. It's forehead smackingly, head shakingly unbelievable.

[$Money$]

best thing to happen to America.

[The Fox]

I am not going to vote as I would hate to have either, but if I was forced, I would pick trump out of curiosity. I already know what to expect from hillary, but I am confused as to what donald would actually do, naturally congress would block any of his extreme ideas, so would it actually change anything at all? It's a curious thought. Besides regardless of what happens, it won't have a significant affect on me, if things go bad I could just migrate to a different country.

[ZERO]

When people drop out it frees up their delegates to vote for whom ever they want although they are expected to vote for whoever their candidate has announced support for. Thus if everyone else in the race dropped out except for Cruz and endorsed him then he would win. The problem with this is that the establishment is against both Cruz and Trump; however, when forced to choose between the two it is more likely to throw its support behind Cruz over trump. Many may be confused by how Trump got endorsed by Christie. If no one endorsed trump and literally everyone endorsed another candidate and this resulted in Trump being trumped in delegate count then he would flip out and run on a 3rd ticket. So instead the desision to give him some support but in such a way that does not have any real effect in delegate allocation will create sufficient illusion of balance. Obviously the preferred solution for the RNC would be that Cruz was not doing well as they would be happy to have Rubio as he is an establishment Republican. However as this is not the case they will likely try to broker a deal with Cruze over his VP pick in order to hand him the win. The real question is how long will this go before the party backs down and feels that it can get behind Cruz.

[jwtemp]

When people drop out it frees up their delegates to vote for whom ever they want although they are expected to vote for whoever their candidate has announced support for. Thus if everyone else in the race dropped out except for Cruz and endorsed him then he would win. The problem with this is that the establishment is against both Cruz and Trump; however, when forced to choose between the two it is more likely to throw its support behind Cruz over trump. Many may be confused by how Trump got endorsed by Christie. If no one endorsed trump and literally everyone endorsed another candidate and this resulted in Trump being trumped in delegate count then he would flip out and run on a 3rd ticket. So instead the desision to give him some support but in such a way that does not have any real effect in delegate allocation will create sufficient illusion of balance. Obviously the preferred solution for the RNC would be that Cruz was not doing well as they would be happy to have Rubio as he is an establishment Republican. However as this is not the case they will likely try to broker a deal with Cruze over his VP pick in order to hand him the win. The real question is how long will this go before the party backs down and feels that it can get behind Cruz.

I admit I haven't followed the process as closely as I should have. This is great information and pretty objective I really appreciate you sharing it Zero. It's funny, for years I've felt as if we've elected 'the lesser of two evils' - ironic that it now seems the GOP has to do exactly the same thing during this clearly tumultuous time for the party.

[JoeniiChan]

I loathe Donald Trump. He is literally the antithesis of everything I value - xenophobic, racist, extreme capitalist, liar, thief, thug, arrogant and, worst of all of these, incredibly wealthy not because of some kind of gumption or ability or intelligence or hard ass work, but instead because of the broken state of our wealth, inheritance and capitalist system in America.

I'm not a huge fan of Hillary. True career politician - deceptive, conniving, ruthless, liar, thief and indebted to corporate America and Wall Street more than anyone likes to talk about. Her policies are pretty much ho-hum politician too - we wouldn't see much major change under her presidency, it would likely be status quo. But I swear I would vote for a Goddamn monkey before I voted for Donald Trump

Seriously - a reality TV star and racist bigot is leading the polls, about the clinch the Republican nomination and could truly be President of the United States of America. It's so surreal. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I think that a majority of this country would ever want that man to be their president.

Then I remember most people make up their mind about their vote because of a campaign slogan or a buzzword, and don't actually do concrete research or fact checking, and it occurs to me that people are voting for him simply because 'he's going to make America great again.' It's a joke. A ruse. It's a campaign run on hatred and anger, appealing to fears and bias, and the hayseeds are eating up that slop like it's the second coming.

Make room Canucks, you potentially have many new residents moving in come November.

Capitalism works.

It's corporatism that ruins things.

[Nemesis]

Dear Americans,

We don't want you, fuck off.

-Canada

[SCRIBBLE]

Who cares, nothing changes.

-apathy

[Passarelli]

The only Republican that can beat Hilary in the general election is the one who has gotten no press--John Kasich. I'm hoping that the convention is contested (Noone gets 50% of the delegates). This would allow anyone who wins at least 8 states a possibility. If Kasich can win 8, the establishment will pick him.

How the process works is the pledged delegates from the states must follow their pledge for the first vote. After that, it is a free for all. Most delegates are chosen not by who they pledge for, but by the party itself.

That said, I'm not sure if Kasich can win 8 states. We will see how the Midwest vote. If he can't, I would love to see a Hilary-Kasich ticket. It would be the death knell for partisan politics.

People complain that nothing gets done, but than elect people like Cruz who throws a temper tantrum when he doesn't get his way and shuts down the government. Getting things done requires compromise.

[StarsMine]

Yea, the thing I really hate on the GOP side right now, is Cruz is the runner up right now. Trump wont win if we get to a contested convention, but for the love of god NOT CRUZ.

Freedom caucus is the cancer that created the potential for this mess to begin with. Tea partiers have destroyed the legitimacy of the GOP party. And that mess of a senator is in second? They created the do nothing congress, they have done NOTHING other then try to spite the government. Yea you are right, the government doesnt work, when you intentionally break it that is.

Its like saying yea, this car doesnt work so im going to syphin out the gas and slash the tires, cause the car doesnt work. (when it in fact just needs a new alternator belt)

Government doesnt work, so we need an outsider. Or they guy that broke it these last few years... WHAT.

[ZERO]

What I sill find funny is I thought congress passed budgets and then the president either agrees with them or says fuck this shit I am shutting it down until you send something to my desk that I like.

Or was there a part in the constitution where I missed that says that the President creates budgets and the congress then either agrees with them or shuts down the government.

[Joker]

What I sill find funny is I thought congress passed budgets and then the president either agrees with them or says fuck this shit I am shutting it down until you send something to my desk that I like.

Or was there a part in the constitution where I missed that says that the President creates budgets and the congress then either agrees with them or shuts down the government.

it's the latter, the president makes a budget and when the congress either approves it or shuts down the government.

[Passarelli]

Republicans right now (and Democrats to a lesser extent) are reaping what they have sowed over the past few decades. They continually gerrymander the districts. Take my state of Pennsylvania for example. Democrats in 2014 won 51% of the popular vote of the house vote. Instead of getting 8-10 out of 18 of the seats in the house you might expect, they won 5. How you my ask? Look at how the district are drawn. One of the most egregious example is PA-7 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania%27s_7th_congressional_district).

They draw them to ensure the district will almost always go one way or the other. This means is many districts all over the US, a Republican doesn't have to work about beating a democat, they need to worry about being challenged by another Republican, or vice versa. This is how the Tea Party got its power.