Banned InT3rN3t_H4t3_M4cH1N3 for one hour...

[&&toasties]

...because he has a very offensive spray.

It's of, what seems to me, a 12 year old asian girl in a bikini.

Yes, given, asians look younger than they seem, and one can never tell.

But I have my reasons as to why I don't like it.

And...

This wasn't the first time I've warned him.

It's been different days, different times.

I couldn't get a screenshot of the picture because when I saw it, I was spec'ing someone, and I was lagging terribly.



I found it highly offensive.

And Mr. Virtus is arguing with me on the fact.

So, ZERO, can you please put in the rules that child porn and anything relating to it is prohibited?

Virtus doesn't seem to understand this concept.

[&&toasties]

And apparently it was the admin Wall-e spraying it.

God...I swear I've seen this guy spray it before...

I'm so confused now.

;-;...

[walterbrunswick]

I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT SPRAY!!!

The "COCKS GO HERE" spray which is both degrading and insulting and involves an underage girl.

*confused*

[&&toasties]

I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT SPRAY!!!

The "COCKS GO HERE" spray which is both degrading and insulting and involves an underage girl.

*confused*

Noooo.

I've seen this guy spray it before.

I WATCHED him do it.

Now Wall-e is doing it...?

You think you're confused...

@_@

[Shinkiro]

Yeah that asian girl spray is Wall-E's

[Wall-e]

I have no idea what this issue is about. My spray (which I am going to post in this) is off a Japanese Model named Sora who is nowhere CLOSE to being underage. If I understand correctly this isn't about my spray at all but another spray that was mentioned previously in the forum, the "cocks go here" spray. Either way, none of the pictures involved nudity. The cocks go here spray might be tasteless but in no way is it child porn as the girl is clothed and she is the only one in the picture and her finger is merely pointed at her mouth. I have seen admins (one I know of who found the spray in question offensive and child porn) allow sprays on the server of whoevers breasts and there is no way to know for sure that those pics as well were not child porn as well. So it seems to me a bit contradictory to ban someone for a picture of someone who has clothes on and a tasteless caption, but not find it offensive when we see a pair of boobs that belongs to a 14 year old for all we know and could actually be a felony. I am not saying that the admin was wrong. The player was warned (I dont think quite well enough because of the much confusion, but never the less warned,) but I feel like "child porn" is a very heavy term and and should be a little bit more careful with its use.


http://idol.displaywallpaper.com/photos/Idol%20S/Sora%20Aoi
The above is the website in which I got my spray. I thought the female in my spray was 19 it turns out she is much older as she was born in 1983.
It is my hopes that in the very least that my reply in this thread will clear any misconceptions about me or my spray. I also hope the next time an issue such as this arises the admins will be a little bit more selective in their decisions. Also, if my spray still offends anyone, please tell me, I implore you. I will not get angry or mad, I will simply cease and desist whatever it is that offends you. Once again I am very sorry for anything I have done wrong and I apologize most sincerely to anyone I have offeneded or hurt.

[Vladninja]

...because he has a very offensive spray.

It's of, what seems to me, a 12 year old asian girl in a bikini.

Yes, given, asians look younger than they seem, and one can never tell.

But I have my reasons as to why I don't like it.

I found it highly offensive.



I don't mean to be mean... but if its of a girl older than 18 its not a ban able offense... You even say yourself shes Asian and you cant tell her age. Just because you find something offensive does not give you the right to ban/take action against a player. Everyone has different definitions of whats offensive and only Zero has the right to state what is and isn't allowed. You are here to enforce the rules not pass judgment on every player. Toasties you seem like a cool girl but you need to watch over stepping your boundaries... Sprays never take away from keeping game play fair and balanced and it seems admins powers could be better used else where.

[&&toasties]

I don't mean to be mean... but if its of a girl older than 18 its not a ban able offense... You even say yourself shes Asian and you cant tell her age. Just because you find something offensive does not give you the right to ban/take action against a player. Everyone has different definitions of whats offensive and only Zero has the right to state what is and isn't allowed. You are here to enforce the rules not pass judgment on every player. Toasties you seem like a cool girl but you need to watch over stepping your boundaries... Sprays never take away from keeping game play fair and balanced and it seems admins powers could be better used else where.

*cuts herself and dies*

[Vladninja]

*cuts herself and dies*

Oh come on don't be like that... :-) ya know I luv ya. I am proud of the fact that you are female and play counterstrike (in fact I wish more woman playd) but you have to be aware of the reality of the situation... you play with 98% guys... and guys play here are going to act like... Guys. We like beer, boobs, and killing.

Im sure that spray may have been sexiest but it wasnt directed at you.

I do underand you have it worse than alot of players Im sure all guys either make fun of you for being a girl or ask you to perform sexual acts on them.

I also believe though that you are a strong and indepent woman who can take care of herslef. You dont need anyone to save or come to your rescue and you will get through the crap and kick some ass...

All I meant by my post is dont ban a guy cause he sprays somthing you find offensive... shrug it off and realize its not meant as an attack on you. Guys come here to blow off steam...

Hell I play to get away from my girlfriend. I love and respect her but have said many things in game I would only say around "the guys" does that make me a bad person? maybe... but at least Im honest.

[whytboiz33]

I don't mean to be mean... but if its of a girl older than 18 its not a ban able offense... You even say yourself shes Asian and you cant tell her age. Just because you find something offensive does not give you the right to ban/take action against a player. Everyone has different definitions of whats offensive and only Zero has the right to state what is and isn't allowed. You are here to enforce the rules not pass judgment on every player. Toasties you seem like a cool girl but you need to watch over stepping your boundaries... Sprays never take away from keeping game play fair and balanced and it seems admins powers could be better used else where.

thats funny... seems like this is exacly what i told her... seems like we need new admins once again.

[walterbrunswick]

Vladninja you contradict yourself. First you say that you wish that more women played, yet at the same time you are telling us that this is where guys to come blow off Steam and that it is okay to post sexist sprays that some women may find offensive. Does that make any sense?

You are not going to attract more women to CS:S by supporting this.

&&toasties is a paying admin and thus automatically has a certain level of say and respect. She told me she warned him several times not to spray that spray, and regardless of whether *you* find it offensive or not, she did.

Server Rules 1.2 Sprays VIII.3 states "A spray that is sprayed after the user has been warned multiple times." is a violation. Punishment for VIII.3 states "Violation of any of the following gets instant temp ban."

That is my case.

[ZERO]

Yes but at the same time such usage of the rules should be within the intentions of the phrasing. Section 3 of rule VIII is to account for unpredicted events where the current set of rules does not apply and to reinforce the mode of punishment used on violators of sections 1 and 2. Currently for example section 3 fills the void left by a non existing anti child porn rule. Therefore the current rules are no gay sprays, no disturbing sprays and no sprays that directly violate US child pornography laws.

Yes I know I need to update the rules...

[๖ReS]

*cuts herself and dies*
D: nuuuuu!

I've never seen it... I only remember the one we found on the Zmod server.
Cock goes here sounds like something i would laugh at...

[Vladninja]

Vladninja you contradict yourself. First you say that you wish that more women played, yet at the same time you are telling us that this is where guys to come blow off Steam and that it is okay to post sexist sprays that some women may find offensive. Does that make any sense?

You are not going to attract more women to CS:S by supporting this.
That is my case.


No I didn't contradict myself you just took from it what you wanted. That's your problem you want to look like the knight in shinning armor but not every woman needs a hero. Not every female that plays on counterstrike needs you to save them. That in and of itself is sexiest. Are you that blind?

Toasties can fend for herself... I believe that but maybe I have more faith in her than you. :smirk:

I think more woman should play counterstrike but I also believe they should not get special treatment. If you play with the boys you will be treated like one.

My girlfriend plays halo and when someone comments about fucking her or her mother does she get offended? Hell no... she snaps back with a comment about "their tiny dick" or "how she hopes they don't fuck as bad as they play" or "how lame it must feel to their over inflated ego to get pwnd by a girl".

The big issue I had here was with the ban... read Zero's post. When you start saying one thing is inappropriate (for being sexiest or whatever) then everything starts not being OK...

My case lastly is this...
If I was a paying admin and thus automatically deserving a certain level of say and respect (your own words). And I was in game with you and found your voice to be offensive and warned you several times not to talk (as I considered it mic spamming), and when you continued I banned you. Would that be ok? I mean regardless of whether *you* find it offensive or not, I did.

Ofcourse that wouldn't be right... it would be stupid but I hope you get my point.
I think more woman will play if we treat them as equals... Giving special treatment or trying to protect them is like saying they cant handle it.

[whytboiz33]

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