All Along The Watchtower

[Assassin]

Do we have a friendly package giver? I mean I doubt it given the setup but just wondering

[CYBER]

What? you keep mentioning "package" but do you know what the package is per se?
Like does it say bomb or mail or paperwork or wtvr? Does it say anything that sounds dangerous?
The reason why I say this is because I am curious if there is a bastard role out there, that would make you do something different than what you think you are doing.
Or you know, Nemesis fucking with us when he said "I will lie to you". In a sense that he's telling every person who got investigated by a cop that they got a package..

Stars got a package night 2 , but stars got also investigated by assassin.
What you got a package night 2 and you got visited by some people.
Scribble got a package night 1, but also got investigated by assassin and etc.

You see where im going with this?

ALSO, I'm not asking your opinion about whether you and scribble are on the same team, i'm TELLING you that you and scribble are on the same team, whatever team that is, but if assassin is insane/paranoid, then i'm inclined by my own logic to assume you guys are on the same team, a town team. or at least from what I gathered so far

[Zuki]

Same as phil, got fuck all information.

And cyber to be fair, that does look abit scummy from someones else point of view but i was just trying to give another point across and not policy lynch but what the hey, if you wanna believe that go ahead.

So let me get this straight for my simple mind, Both of the cops that have claimed are practically useless then?

[CYBER]

My 3 main targets for a lynch for now are Zuki, Passerelli, and Phil.
In that order.

[What]

Cyber if you are also a cop just say it. Odds are at least 1 or more of you are useless and to have any utility this needs to be known.

[Zuki]

My 3 main targets for a lynch for now are Zuki, Passerelli, and Phil.
In that order.

Thats nice.

tbf i dont have a clue who could be scum right now. But if i had to choose it would either be pass or stars.

[StarsMine]

Same as phil, got fuck all information.

And cyber to be fair, that does look abit scummy from someones else point of view but i was just trying to give another point across and not policy lynch but what the hey, if you wanna believe that go ahead.

So let me get this straight for my simple mind, Both of the cops that have claimed are practically useless then?
how is insane cop useless?


What is really throwing me off. A second package received after being visited sounds suspect.

We also know there is a fireman at least, the guy doused night one is still alive.

[SCRIBBLE]

No, I know I got a bomb because I told I got a bomb. I only said package the first night to encourage discussion without giving out too much info.

[CYBER]

Same as phil, got fuck all information.

And cyber to be fair, that does look abit scummy from someones else point of view but i was just trying to give another point across and not policy lynch but what the hey, if you wanna believe that go ahead.

So let me get this straight for my simple mind, Both of the cops that have claimed are practically useless then?


I hear ya about jiggly to some extent bcos usually im the one getting policy lynched... but I never saw you defend THAT policy lynch when it used to be me...except this time you did. so you have to understand where i stand for here.

Also, YES. The cops who have claimed so far are practically useless FOR NOW. They may remain useless if they are both paranoid or random. But if one of them is insane, they're bound to narrow down targets.'
We are basically waiting to see if any of them hit a "Your nigger target is innocent, cunt" kind of reply (or whatever you'd expect Nemesis to say). If that happens, we can then either lynch the cop (if they are marked for death) or lynch the "innocent" target. and finally know if the person was a random or insane.
But short of any positives, or false positives... the current cops who have claimed so far are useless, until proven otherwise...

[SCRIBBLE]

I was told*

[StarsMine]

No, I know I got a bomb because I told I got a bomb. I only said package the first night to encourage discussion without giving out too much info.

Can confirm, nasty package is a bomb.
Asshole threatened my dog to.

[SCRIBBLE]

Unless protected, I am dead this coming night phase, therefore useless, which is why I hard claimed. I am not sure a protective role could save my life... depends on how nemesis is implementing the bomb.

[CYBER]

We also know there is a fireman at least, the guy doused night one is still alive.
we can't be 100% sure of this because an arsonist can keep dousing people and THEN ignite.

And considering someone got doused tonight (i think it was blade.. sry i can't get back in previous pages because chrome crashes, but i think blade said he got doused).
Arsonist probably just doused another target until they can ignite.
Depending on the mod or setup, some allow the person to ignite and douse simultaenously but only after the second night in a row of dousing, but the USUAL ruling is that the actions are mutually exclusive, so they try to douse many ppl before rice-crispying the whole lot at the same time...

So you might have your opinion if you believe there's a fireman... but WE do not know that.

[hippo]

how is insane cop useless?


What is really throwing me off. A second package received after being visited sounds suspect.

We also know there is a fireman at least, the guy doused night one is still alive.

Pass is still alive because perhaps the arsonist hasn't ignited since he probably has a limited number of times he can ignite

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Cyber beat me to it

[CYBER]

Can confirm, nasty package is a bomb.
Asshole threatened my dog to.

@scribble ok i see why you called it package instead of bomb. I just want to make sure I don't sound naive in this by making wrong assumptions, so i figured i'd ask more first in case I missed something..

@stars
I see.
Thanks for that tidbit.

Nevermind about my last post about Nem being a cunt. I mean he's a cunt, but forget the part about someone thinking they are doing God's work when they're unintentionally dropping "packages" then... i was just surprised by some coincidences and borderline correlations between ppl that got investigated and people that received packages... still gets me eerie when I think about it.

[What]

Cyber what read did you get from me and Scrib? Innocent or guilty?

[CYBER]

Cyber if you are also a cop just say it. Odds are at least 1 or more of you are useless and to have any utility this needs to be known.


I think I was more than clear with my not-so-subtle softing.
But wtvr, I am willing to hard claim anyway since there's enough cops around to give scum trouble in decision making.

[StarsMine]

I think I was more than clear with my not-so-subtle softing.
But wtvr, I am willing to hard claim anyway since there's enough cops around to give scum trouble in decision making.

no need to

[What]

I'm trying to gauge if everyone is getting guilt results or not. No shit you were not subtle, which is why I asked, we need to know the reads to see if all the cops are just red herrings or if there is one that might be useful.

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Scum clearly can not kill at night, at least not immediately, so soon we will all have fucking packages. I doubt we have a doctor.

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no need to

He claimed by sying that dipshit.

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and by saying Scrib and I were on the same team.

[StarsMine]

Exactly so no need to, no need to lay it all out as well.

[What]

Exactly so no need to, no need to lay it all out as well.

Are, are you an idiot? Like for real? I always wonder we play these, I can't tell if you are playing dumb or are not actually a functional human in real life.

He already claimed, if we don't know his reads, we can't decipher who may be useful. Mafia and scum apparently can't kill at night, and in another day or so, odds are we will all have packages or be doused. So in short, the adults are talking, go play in the corner.

[CYBER]

Sry i was writing this in its own post.

YES.
I. AM. SPARTACUS.
(Yes i'm a cop).

I investigated @SCRIBBLE Night one: Result? My investigations returned INNOCENT.
I investigated @WHAT night two: Result? My investigations returned INNOCENT.
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From mafiascum btw:
GF v Insane = Mafia
GF v Paranoid = Mafia
GF v Naive = Town
GF v Random = Coin flip result (doesn't matter really)

For the following, I AM GOING TO ASSUME that there is no GF, and that those results are based solely on the cop modifiers. So this will change if we find a GF or bus driver etc..




Me + Assassin on Scribble:

Option 1: Either i'm regular and assasssin is paranoid/insane.
Option 2: OR I'm naive/insane and assassin is Regular.
So if I am regular, scribble most likely town. (slight GF probability exists, but he's gonna die anyway so we will know for sure soon)
If assassin is regular, then scribble is definitely scum.



Assassin on Stars

IF assassin is regular, stars is definitely scum.
IF assassin is insane, stars is town.
IF assassin is paranoid, stars is unknown.



Cyber on WHAT

If cyber is regular, What is most likely town (again, GF probability exists but decreases if Scribble is revealed GF on death)
IF cyber is insane, What is scum.
IF cyber is naive, what is unknown.

[Assassin]

I guess we will find that out tonight when he goes boom. We need to find another target

[CYBER]

oh yeah ).
and i forgot:

Scribble on CYBER:
If scriblbe is insane, Cyber is innocent (with slight GF chance, yet again)
IF scribble is paranoid, Cyber is unknown.

Scribble on SCRIBBLE:
if scribble is insane, Scribble is innocent.
if scribble is paranoid, scribble is dumb as fuck because why in the name of hell would a known scum investigate himself -.- lol.


So as you can see... Scribble is at the center of the universe on that one.
WHEN scribble dies, we will know at least who's more LIKELY to be right between assassin and I.
And depending on that, we can narrow out the options on clearing either What or Stars, accordingly.

But i wont willingly lynch scribble especially since everyone made this whole ordeal about assassin being a possible lyncher, or if scribble is a Jester and fucking with us.
So i'd rather him just dying inevitably at night, and us lynching someone else.

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oh and yeah I deleted that line by accident during my first disclaimer about GF possibility....
I didnt mention "Random" yet because we have yet to get a flip/flop result. If we do, then it becomes a case of RANDOM vs insane for both assassin and I, instead of naive/paranoid vs insane for both assassin and I.

[Assassin]

Wait what is the exact wording you both got. Scribble and cyber. Don't quote obviously.

[I'm a zambi]

How viable would it be to have all cops investigate the same person? It would be a waste of a night but we could discern who's who tomorrow.
Minus Scribs I guess, since he'll die tonight. Even then, we get a result on Cyber, who (supposing he is town) can investigate.

About the bombs ... Scribs you got yours Night 1, and Stars yours on Night 2? If they take a day to go off, we could be down 3 or 4 (arson + bombs, and possibly another anti-town role?), or more people tomorrow. Thankfully none of the cops have been doused.

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Question for Nem: are role mods revealed when someone dies? If they aren't, this plan wouldn't work so well.

[SCRIBBLE]

I've given you everything I can without quoting. I got a package, it's ticking because it's a bomb, I die tonight.

[Assassin]

I meant from your investigations.

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Maybe if different wording is used we can catch which one of us is modded which way

[SCRIBBLE]

I already told you that too...

Is everyone going to ignore blade's bullshit excuse?

[hippo]

I think Blade might be a Jester-esque role. He has been playing stupid the whole game with that and with "Investigate me, I have nothing to lose" the first day

[StarsMine]

I already told you that too...

Is everyone going to ignore blade's bullshit excuse?

No, blade felt scummy with that excuse but he hasnt been back to explain himself.

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Wait what is the exact wording you both got. Scribble and cyber. Don't quote obviously.
... What?

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also cyber, assassin isnt reg. Scrib is clean.

[Assassin]

Like if he tells me guilty but tells one of them anti town or 3rd party..we can try to discern something from it.

[SCRIBBLE]

What wording did I use?

[What]

innocent/ guilty is the only way it happens. Never will you get a '3rd party' reading.

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How was Blade scummy? Saying he didn't look up a role? What is the utility of that? Obviously people are going to look themselves, I don't see how this would work as a scum move. Besides I already confirmed he visited me.

[What]

also cyber, assassin isnt reg. Scrib is clean.


No. If he is insane, yes, but if he is paranoid, its un-known.

Stay in your corner.

[SCRIBBLE]

You haven't done much for the game, what, not enough to tell people to stay in their corner.

[What]

I'm doing more than my fair share, and at the very least, I understand the way that roles actually function.

[SCRIBBLE]

Yes, it's a scum move. Considering both of you (blade, what) were late on the jigg train, it would be easy to assume you are all related somehow. Especially considering your reluctance to vote for him and your avoidance of the topic.

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Your fair share is lacking, but tell yourself whatever you need to.

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I firmly believe that jigg was coached into giving me a package. There are three people I believe would give him that advice, what and blade being two of the three.

[What]

I was not late to the Jig train, I was never on it.

If someone is categorically wrong in their understanding, I will point it out.

[SCRIBBLE]

I fail to see what you have to offer in the way of assisting town in this game, feel free to enlighten us.

Your ass, though tempting, is not evidence.

[What]

I have been assisting the town by trying to keep stupid in the corner. I will do more when able.

[hippo]

Scribble, although I do agree that it looks like What and Blade are together, I don't think that Jiggly was coached into giving you the package. Jiggly is a very meta-using player and based off your attitude towards him in the Paris Mafia game, I'm not surprised he gave you it

[What]

there is at least 1, likely 2 more bomb givers out there, so we can't even be certain jig is the one who gave it to Scribble.

[SCRIBBLE]

Doubt it. Sounds like a team mate trying to confuse.

Hippo, jigg has not played enough games for you to discern that info. I do not agree with you at all.

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It was a night start, meaning mafia talked. Based on the timing of certain things, I believe he was coached.

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Also, I'd like to point out that blade offered to be investigated. Definitely a move gf would pull.

[What]

Believe what you want, maybe he was coached, but it doesn't do jack shit for us right now.

Based on everything I have seen from today, my number one person to lynch today would be Hippo, followed by Zuki.

I got a package, Stars said he did as well, and Blade claims he was doused, that means at least 3 baddies left.

[hippo]

If I recall correctly, Jiggly usually votes for those he has played with. And in the Donner game, he roleblocked me first night


Also, I'd like to point out that blade offered to be investigated.

Yeah, I said this as well. At this point, I seriously doubt there is a Jester or Mimes. It would be too much for town to handle.

Vote Blade

[SCRIBBLE]

I believe stars, I don't believe you or blade.

[hippo]

Again, someone being doused or receiving a package doesn't mean they aren't scum. A mafia can get doused and an arsonist can get a package

[SCRIBBLE]

You, meaning what.

[What]

Then you are an idiot.

Re-read blades posts and mine. If you really still think that then there is nothing I can do to help you.

Hippo, meanwhile, continues to play right from the freaking scum handbook.

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No shit scum can target scum, which is why I don't think Stars is cleared. Blade obviously is to me, and nothing will change that.

[SCRIBBLE]

Blade, the vet, who didn't bother to look up a role he didn't recognize.

[What]

Blade, the vet, who didn't bother to look up a role he didn't recognize.

You got bitchy at him because he said there was a bomb person alive, which is a correct statement. The anarchist died, but both me and Stars said we got fucking bombs last night dipshit.

[SCRIBBLE]

His response to me calling him out is not congruent with what you are suggesting. Either you or stars could be lying to support the idea that there are multiple bomb givers, but why would someone lie in a mafia game?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't believe you. I have today, and that is it unless some magic happens. You should have two nights before you die if you were actually given a package, and I'm basing that off my own situation.

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Again, why would anyone lie in a mafia game?

[What]

He said we have a bomb giver, you quoted the anarchist died, then voted for him. My suggestion seems mighty congruent. Yes stars could be lying, again I don't trust him like you do, but perhaps you should read what else blade and I said before you go full-Stars on me.

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Please tell me the utility of him saying he didn't look up anarchist. What is the use of this heinous lie?

[SCRIBBLE]

If I must reiterate, you have done nothing to assist town. I've read everything, and you have nothing to offer except calling people dipshits and talking about a corner you belong in. If you are attempting to help town, you're doing a terrible job at it, and either your ego is too big for you to realize that or you are lying.

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Heinous lie, how about a simple slip?

[What]

I think that bomb you have is making you paranoid as fuck. (no that is not a cop modifier allusion) All you have done thus far is overreact and try to foment support for someone who is obviously incredibly important for town.

You can go play in the corner with Stars.

vote hippo I didn't forget about you BB.

[SCRIBBLE]

Who do you believe I am fomenting support for?

[StarsMine]

What, I have a hard time believing there are two bomb givers in a game. what happened to the second bomb the previous night?

[What]

fomenting support to lynch Blade. I realize that wasn't as clear as it should have been.

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What, I have a hard time believing there are two bomb givers in a game. what happened to the second bomb the previous night?


There would be 3, not 2 if you are not lying about receiving one. I see you also have a hard time believing in math.

[StarsMine]

3 I believe even less, why the fuck would their be 3 anyways? what evidence do we have to support that?

[What]

Well, we killed a bomb giver. You got 1, I got an explosive package.....1+1+1=3

[StarsMine]

shhh im an idiot
but yea, I dont believe 3

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3 is way to many, Im sorry im going to have to call you out.
Vote What

3 anarchists, 2 of which got roleblocked or something night one, (I can understand one) and a arsonist. I would think there would be more variety.

[What]

shhh im an idiot

Admitting it is the first step to recovery

Its a good thing your beliefs don't reflect reality.

We have at least 3 cops, no reason there is not duplication of other roles.

[hippo]

vote hippo I didn't forget about you BB.

When he doesn't forget about you >>>

[What]

Call me out? Blow me.

[SCRIBBLE]

Yes, fomenting support for blade. It is who I voted for, therefore who I want to be lynched. Why would I not support my decision and try to convince others of my position. Great point, as if it was not an immensely obvious point considering it's exactly how the game is supposed to be played -- support your opinion with a vote to lynch something. What is this mafia game anyways, an FPS?

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What will end up being the jester with that argument.

[phil.™]

Y'all got some trust issues. Sept you. You cute af.
With that said. Good night. I'll reread tomorrow morning before work starts.

[What]

I'm not blaming you for supporting your decision, I am blaming you for making it.

I'll spell it out for you since you apparently can't read Blade's post.

HE REMOVES BOMBS.

Quite a handy role consider all of the fucking bomb givers we apparently have here. Why you think he pulled that out of his ass or why I confirmed it in some kind of nefarious plot is beyond me.

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And stars, its not 3 anarchists, its 3 bomb givers. What their actual name is or precise role is not known at this point. Stop trying to think, its just not working.

[CYBER]

it's simple.. if Blade really does remove bombs... let him remove the bomb off you tonight (a-la-doctor).
scribble dies? we fuck with blade.

Assassin and I do more investigations.
Scum? Come at me. I'll be waiting for you and tomorrow i'll spill some beans.

Oh and
unvote
vote phil

[What]

We need to kill the arsonist today. End of story. We have a pool to choose from, we need to hit. Blade can not be the arsonist.

[StarsMine]

arsonist is not top priority

[What]

Still waiting on pass to talk, but unless he says he is no longer doused, yes arsonist is the top priority.

[Passarelli]

Sorry, I've been working all day. When I'm done later today, I'll make a longer post.

To answer your question What, I did not receive anything stating I got this kerosene washed off. I doubt we have a fireman.

[Assassin]

Then yes agreed arsonist is too priority of blade can remove bombs.

[phil.™]

Oh and
unvote
vote phil

Eh? Because i fell asleeeeeeep?

[phil.™]

Eh. I can actually see why I would be a good candidate for next running mafia or 3rd party killer. I can assure you, i will be much helpful to town later on in the game. Although, that does put pressure on me. I don't do so well under pressure.

[phil.™]

This is just soooo us. Me doing all the talking, you just sitting around listening.
#philandyou

[Assassin]

Wait blade if you can remove bombs why didn't you visit scribble first?

[Passarelli]

Assassin, Scribble said he got a package, not a bomb. Blade may have been thinking inventor or just missed it as he doesn't seem to be trying. Scribble may have been trying to be subtle to try and bait a dousing.

So myself and Blade are doused. (I likely wasn't lit because the arsonist can likely only do one or the other)
Scribble and Stars have bombs.
What claimed a nasty package, which may be a bomb, but he did not confirm that. (Which would be helpful).

So that's 3-4 town dead, depending on how this plays out. There are at least 2 scum out there, though on seperate teams. I'm betting on 3 more, likely 2 more mafia. The arsonist makes it hard to figure anything out based on votes, especially with the policy lynch. The Mafia may have just thrown jiggs under the bus to confuse the vote record. The voteless or thief further confuses it.

The ar

[CYBER]

pass.
I know it's blade and I've seen him throw games for the sake of being a useless tool (teemo game vs Sona fake claim anyone ?o.O)
And I know that he only "discovered" that arsonist = bomb today... so it would somewhat make sense that blade just didn't know that scribble was a top priority for a bomb defusal...

BUT STILL... I mean if your damn role is "clear bombs".. i don't know how else nemesis would write his role to make it generalized WITHOUT specfiically saying that he's defusing bombs... so when scribble claimed he got a package... he should have AT LEAST made the assumpion to go to scribble. If scribble's package meant a bomb, then he's saving them. If scribble's package meant an inventor gift... then scribble would have been a target so that he doesn't get to use his skill at a trump moment..


So spank my tush and call me suzie, but I still find it VERY odd that blade just straight up went full tard this game.
I mean when I read arsonist, I didn't realise what the role was and said to myself "i need to check this later". by the time i came back, blade also hasn't checked the role, so i can buy THAT part, that he simply didnt pay attention...
but if scribble dies tonight without having his bomb cleared... some fingers will be pointed (taking into account any RB/bus possibility).

I'd say we vote for one of the newer guys for this lynch.
if multiple town die tomorrow, I'd like to have the option of narrowing down the target later based on their scumtells... not get clueless by their afk/dumbtells...
it is significantly harder to pick the right person from the new guys compared to a veteran if they aren't interacting much or if simply rehashing things said by others..

[What]

Blade didn't confuse anything about arsonist Cyber.

[hippo]

I don't think Scribble claimed to have received a package until Day 2. If people are notified when they get a package and we have a defuser, it would make sense for the package giver to be able to give 2 people a package per night

Unvote

Pass, it seems like your message was cut off or something. Were you going to add anything else?

[Passarelli]

I don't think Scribble claimed to have received a package until Day 2. If people are notified when they get a package and we have a defuser, it would make sense for the package giver to be able to give 2 people a package per night

Unvote

Pass, it seems like your message was cut off or something. Were you going to add anything else?

No, I just started a thought, checked stuff, than started it again as part of the previous paragraph. Forgot to delete it at the end.

[Zuki]

it's simple.. if Blade really does remove bombs... let him remove the bomb off you tonight (a-la-doctor).
scribble dies? we fuck with blade.

Not gonno lie, but there isnt a hell of a lot we can do tonight, and this sounds like a very viable and safish option. Or at least till we can more information from the cops and decipher there modifying code.

[Assassin]

I don't think Scribble claimed to have received a package until Day 2. If people are notified when they get a package and we have a defuser, it would make sense for the package giver to be able to give 2 people a package per night

Unvote

Pass, it seems like your message was cut off or something. Were you going to add anything else?

No it wouldnt. It would stand that they give one a night. So the defuser has to go around defusing after they plant one until they land on the difusser themselves.

[What]

So hippo and zuki are basically begging to be lynched, can we see some movement on this

[SCRIBBLE]

unvote

[Assassin]

I'm getting a scum vibe from zuki. vote zuki you're trying to middle of the road it too much.

[I'm a zambi]

arsonist is not top priority
Arsonist is most definitely top priority.

Eh. I can actually see why I would be a good candidate for next running mafia or 3rd party killer. I can assure you, i will be much helpful to town later on in the game. Although, that does put pressure on me. I don't do so well under pressure.
Interesting.

Blade didn't confuse anything about arsonist Cyber.
Nah, Cyber was confused about the arsonist, he used the wrong word when he was explaining Blade's "confusion" about the anarchist.

I don't think Scribble claimed to have received a package until Day 2. If people are notified when they get a package and we have a defuser, it would make sense for the package giver to be able to give 2 people a package per night
Interesting theory if 3 people claimed to have received bombs. It could be that the other mafia member is also an anarchist and that they can hand out two - the problem with this is that we only have 3 bombs. I'd like to entertain this theory but I'm going to stick with my hunch for now on there being both a thief and a jester.

I'm getting a scum vibe from zuki. vote zuki you're trying to middle of the road it too much.
Hmm, I've been getting a similar vibe. Not so much of indifference but of avoidance.

[CYBER]

Ty zambi.
Yes I meant that blade was confused about ANARCHIST not arsonist... I either made a typo that got autocorrected, or my brain went extra tard crispy.

So who HAS an objection against voting for zuki mind you? (yes that includes you too zuki).

@scribble, just to clear up the issue that hippo brought up.. Did you claim you had a package on day 1 or day 2?

[Passarelli]

I thought Zuki was scum yesterday.

vote zuki

[SCRIBBLE]

Go back and read, lazy assholes

[I'm a zambi]

Is this in response to suspicions of Zuki or Cyber's package comment?

If it's about the package, I believe Scribs announced it Day 1 but no one knew it was a bomb [besides the anarchist(s)] until Day 2.

Some things I'm still unclear of that I'd like cleared up at some point (doesn't necessarily have to be today):
Number of anarchists
How many bombs can be given by a single anarchist (nightly or in total)
Thief or no thief
Jester or no jester

As it stands, I believe we had 3 bombs in play - 1 was supposedly defused by Blade, bringing us down to 2 - SCRIBBLE's and Stars'. All three were given Night 1, correct? If so, Jiggles could have been the only anarchist. Still, 3 bombs seems excessive, even in a bastard game. If that is the case, however, then there's still potential for a vote thief.

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What could also have lied about having a bomb. If so, that throws suspicion on both himself and Blade.

I personally don't believe this is the case but I'm throwing it out there in case it helps gather info.

[StarsMine]

No, my bomb was given to me last night. AFTER anarchist died. Unless it was held up in the mail system

[What]

I held your mom up in the mail system last night.

*zing*

[I'm a zambi]

No, my bomb was given to me last night. AFTER anarchist died. Unless it was held up in the mail system
Ah, scratch that then.

So we have another anarchist or someone who can play a mean game of hot potato.

So we have another anarchist. See, part of me wants to believe there are only 2 mafia but I really don't want to let go of the possibility of a vote thief, even if there is no evidence. (shrug)

[Passarelli]

If there is a vote thief, I doubt they are Mafia as it is harder to balance. My guess would be town or 3rd party survivor.

[What]

We need a vote count and Blade to back his sweet ass in here.

[I'm a zambi]

We need a vote count and Blade to back his sweet ass in here.
Agreed.

[What]

Come on Nem, put down your moose real-doll and give us a vote count.

[Nemesis]

vote count:

not enough

[Assassin]

vote count:

not enough

Best mod ever.

[StarsMine]

I mean, its true though

[Assassin]

So wait I got a bunch of shit for being a lazy mod but Nem is doing fine? You all have some fucked up value systems.

[SCRIBBLE]

There's probably a vote thief or something vote related.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Vote Zuki

[I'm a zambi]

Still nothing?

Vote Zuki.

[What]

Come one blade, give us something, words, phrases, pics........

And Ass, this is a bastard moded game, so some may just expect Nem to be a dick. He also may not have planned ahead for a vote thief or the like with vote counts. That's why when I give vote counts I just say who has voted for who, and leave off the L-1 etc. Would be nice to have some kind of official tally though. I like to think that my moose comment was just so close to the bone that he had to lash out some way.

[StarsMine]

unvote
Vote Zuki

Dont know why yall trust what enough to not vote for him.

[SCRIBBLE]

Whatever. vote zuki

[hippo]

How many is that on him? Zuki, do you have anything to say?

[SCRIBBLE]

Fuck him, he knows he is screwed.

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I've seen him on the forums more than once since yesterday.

[What]

God damn Hippo, you just want to constantly telegraph how scum you are?

[hippo]

Yeah man, giving the guy time to answer before potentially hammering him sure is scummy

[I'm a zambi]

Yeah man, giving the guy time to answer before potentially hammering him sure is scummy
Nah, he had time, and as SCRIBBLE said, he's been online since he's been under scrutiny and hasn't made a single post. Are you really trying to defend his inaction?

[CYBER]

Vote zuki

Let's this show back on track. He was given more than a share of enough time.

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The duck? My phone just deleted an entire line..


I said :
Unvote
Vote zuki

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Keep an eye for when Nemesis considers the vote a Lynch. So try to vote one at a time if this is not enough. So we can take out the possibility of a vote less modifier on one person or know who the vote thief DID Not steal the vote for that day

[Zuki]

Sorry peoples, just got back from a festival which almost lasted a 2 day drinking binge. And now i feel like utter death.

Back to the game, it seems like everyone is trying to lynch me. Which kinda seems to me like everyone is just following the crowd. But your not going to gain anything out of my death so have another pointless night/day with no information that is useful yet again.

[I'm a zambi]

And now i feel like utter death.
With good reason. :smirk:

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Keep an eye for when Nemesis considers the vote a Lynch. So try to vote one at a time if this is not enough. So we can take out the possibility of a vote less modifier on one person or know who the vote thief DID Not steal the vote for that day
I think he's well beyond the required vote count at this point. Are we not just waiting on Nem?

[phil.™]

vote zuki

[Zuki]

I thought Zuki was scum yesterday.

vote zuki

Great reasoning there.


Vote Zuki

Oh and again..


Still nothing?

Vote Zuki.

And another, im starting to see some sort of theme here. Along with stars and scribs. So all yal fuckers excuses is because i didn't post a reply back in time? Its called living in a time zone from you lot and having a life.

[hippo]

There we go, that's all I wanted

Vote Zuki

[Nemesis]

ok, that's a lynch. sorry i was away last night so i didn't get anything, you guys extra lynched him. stand by a sec.

Zuki, the mafia godfather has been lynched, and banned from ever having a fun role again. vt forever. retard.

night 3 begins

beep...
beep...
beeeeeeeeeeeeep...

an explosion is heard around the area.

the fragmented corpse of scribble, the town cop has been found and...exploded.



send me your night actions.

[Zuki]

Fuck you

[PA SYSTEM]

Rest in pieces Scribble.

[Nemesis]

was going to post the next day phase but since assassin is whining like a bitch you'll all have to wait until tomorrow now.

[StarsMine]

Thanks azzazzin

[Assassin]

Yeah blame me for a childish mod. Good call.

[Assassin]

Actually at this point I don't even care anymore. Fucking mod kill me. You're worthless.

[StarsMine]

What the fuck are you salty about

[Assassin]

I'm sick and tired of his antics. I'm just done playing his stupid Fucking pentulant child games. He's an arrogant retsrd which is quite possibly the funniest combination in the world and isn't worth a shit in real life. I deal with 4 kids of my own. I don't need to come here and deal with his Fucking retardation too. I'm out. I really was a cop. No known mods. Last post I'm making.

[Nemesis]

And temper tantrums like this show why child cancer exists for kids of people like assassin. Mod kill will be in the morning, after the game discussion of removal from all games will be had.

Stars, you shut up too.

[PA SYSTEM]

Assassin:
http://youtu.be/6M17aG_Po2Y

[PA SYSTEM]

Assassin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M17aG_Po2Y

[Nemesis]

day 3 begins


the corpse of assassin, the town cop was found, ripped apart by wolves.

what do you do when your Falling? you've goT 30 degrees and you're stalling out and its 24 miles to the beacon there's a crack in the sky and the Warning's Out.

lost In static 18, mayday, mayday, mayday. five miLes out. 10.1086/308323


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApDbmHGe-KQ

this song is still dedicated to assassin

no children were harmed during the making of this game, just your precious, precious feelings.

[hippo]

Any dousing/packages or other vital information?

[What]

Well cyber, what was your read?

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And Nem, Jesus man tone it way the fuck down

[What]

You should edit out the parts that make you an awful person

[Rapedollar$]

Tone down your level of cunt nem.

[CYBER]

Holy fuck I leave the thread for one night and all hell breaks loose... The fuck happened.


Oh and What I can say with certainty now that I am NOT a naive cop nor a random.
And since scribble came out as a town, then I am not insane or paranoid.
Im a regular cop.

And so.


Investigated pass.
Did not get the same "innocent" result I was getting.
Did not get guilty either. Because someone decided to be coy.

So my money's on him being a third party...

Now whether he is the arsonist, or a survivor vote thief... Its up in the air.

So I'm just gonna put this out there that pass might have not doused anyone first night and pretended to be doused himself to avoid suspicion while also presenting "helpful" information that there's an arsonist (but not him duh) before someone else gives away that information.

He'd be playing the long game of staying under the radar until he can ignite safely without being a threat for mafia bcos they'd think he's marked for death nway.
Its actually a really good con... I'd have been impressed if he made it work.


Vote pass

[Nemesis]

Tone down your level of cunt nem.

no...

continue playing...cunts.

[CYBER]

Oh and What is the only person I trust right now simply bcos of my investigation. And the fact godfather is dead.

[What]

Ok, good to know.

What was the response you got?

[I'm a zambi]

So I'm just gonna put this out there that pass might have not doused anyone first night and pretended to be doused himself to avoid suspicion while also presenting "helpful" information that there's an arsonist (but not him duh) before someone else gives away that information.

He'd be playing the long game of staying under the radar until he can ignite safely without being a threat for mafia bcos they'd think he's marked for death nway.
Its actually a really good con... I'd have been impressed if he made it work.


Vote pass
Huh, interesting. I can't believe that didn't occur to me.

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We should also have a third mafia (anarchist), given Stars' Night 2 bomb claim.

What are the chances that we could have 2 separate mafia teams? Possibly 2 anarchists & 2 godfathers?

If we do have another anarchist, there should be another bomb in play today. Otherwise, I'm going to lay secondary suspicions on Stars, after Pass.

If Blade really can remove bombs, Stars' should be gone now.

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^ this is all assuming Stars had a bomb in the first place and we do in fact have (at the very least) another anarchist.

Even so, just like yesterday, the arsonist should be top priority.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Defused Stars bomb.

[CYBER]

I'm waiting to see if we have another person that claims being doused.

That person's claim would reveal nothing about them but would help eliminate the possibility of a slightly unlikely dynamic duo theory I had.

Also, i am going to point this out myself before someone tries to fuck with me:
So let me put it this way:

Considering scribble's death, and the fact that he had no modifier attached. And the claim that he said I came up as guilty. And the likelihood that assassin was insane.
Had assassin investigated me, he might have had an innocent result on me.
Reason? I very much suspect that Nemesis made me the town Miller while being a cop, assuming he didn't intentionally omit any hidden modifiers that scribble might have had, if any.

Its just smthn I would see Nemesis do to fuck with me while not being I'm the game.

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Still no death or burn...

Anyone doused or bombed claim the fuck up.

Blade you didn't get doused... Even when mentioning that you are the bomb defuser... This indicates to me that the arsonist needs blade to stay alive and defuse bombs... Either because they had a bomb on them, or most likely to have one on them soon..

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Looooool at that zuki fuck up.

So, Phil or pass?

[PA SYSTEM]

Pass is indeed a 3rd party survivor with several abilities. Arsonist is not one of them. He can protect you this coming night if you decide to trust him (as long as you yourself are not doused right now).

[I'm a zambi]

I'm waiting to see if we have another person that claims being doused.

That person's claim would reveal nothing about them but would help eliminate the possibility of a slightly unlikely dynamic duo theory I had.
If you're alluding to two arsonists, I doubt that since each night we've only had one person getting doused. Unless both arsonists are targeting the exact same people (not a chance) we only have one. On the other hand, we have to have another anarchist, since Stars received (and Blade just now confirmed) a bomb following Jiggly's death.


Considering scribble's death, and the fact that he had no modifier attached. And the claim that he said I came up as guilty. And the likelihood that assassin was insane.
Had assassin investigated me, he might have had an innocent result on me.
Reason? I very much suspect that Nemesis made me the town Miller while being a cop, assuming he didn't intentionally omit any hidden modifiers that scribble might have had, if any.
My assumption is this:
SCRIBBLE was Paranoid,
Assassin was Insane,
You are either Random or have no role mod. I don't recall; did you ever get a guilty verdict? If not, you could be Naïve. In any event, I have no doubt that you're town. And to a lesser extent, I trust What and Blade.


Still no death or burn...
What confuses me is if Zuki was the GF, shouldn't he have a nightkill?


Anyone doused or bombed claim the fuck up.
Neither, surprisingly.


Blade you didn't get doused... Even when mentioning that you are the bomb defuser... This indicates to me that the arsonist needs blade to stay alive and defuse bombs... Either because they had a bomb on them, or most likely to have one on them soon..
Blade said he was doused Day 2. Something like 'I'm a sad man' or something ... let me check.
Here we go:

I was doused last night. This makes me a sad man.


Looooool at that zuki fuck up.
Yeah.


So, Phil or pass?
My guess is phil is the anarchist and Pass is the arsonist. Could be inverted but I like your theory, plus phil hasn't posted as much, which fits what Zuki said.

[Passarelli]

That aside, I could alternatively prove to you I'm a Survivor JoaT if you didn't want my protection.

[I'm a zambi]

Pass is indeed a 3rd party survivor with several abilities. Arsonist is not one of them. He can protect you this coming night if you decide to trust him (as long as you yourself are not doused right now).
Huh, now that's interesting. Do you have any evidence (that you can share)?

[Passarelli]

Zambi, you are a retard that I really don't trust.

Cyber and What are town.

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Also, we haven't heard from Phil yet.

[I'm a zambi]

Zambi, you are a retard that I really don't trust.
Fine by me.


Cyber and What are town.
I already said I believed them to be town.

The two people on my radar at the moment are phil and hippo, since you've apparently been outted as a survivor. My previous post was only questioning the integrity of that claim.

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Also, we haven't heard from Phil yet.
This is also something I pointed out.

Anyway, since Zuki pretty much bussed his partner from the 'So...' thread ...
Vote phil.™

[Passarelli]

Cyber, I'm going to follow you on this. I'm personally not that worried about the arsonist, but he should be the main target. Phil, Zambi, and Stars are the one's I'm unsure of. Also, let me know if you wanted protection or proof. The proof really isn't that great if you think that the other 3rd parties could also get 1 shots, but w/e.

Oh, Blade is also town if Stars confirms it.

[CYBER]

waiting on reply from stars and blade and hippo. I WANT FULL COMMENTS about any dousing/bombing or other info you have. we're still at a risk.

also thanks zambi for pointing out about blade being doused night 2... I fucking full-blown forgot that.

unvote pass.
@pass
I'll let you go for now just because of the unlikeliness that you have access to "both" the PA system AND being an arsonist at the same time... and you both claim my investigation about you being third party is correct.
I also wanted to hear your reaction first before posting the rest, but the msg I got from my investigation was very neutral yet ambiguous about your intentions (not quoting) : not innocent, but not guilty. almost as if a 3rd party?
This sounded more like survivor than arsonist for me... but I had to bring up the possible scenario earlier to see reactions. (THANKS PA_SYSTEM)



i think there's a big chance that zuki fucked up with the afk comment... it's out there now, i just can't unsee it.
and in my original post I foreshadowed that zuki, phil and pass wouldn't be town after we lynched jiggly.

Zuki not town? check.
Pass not town? check (regardless if survivor joat or not)

I'm curious if i got 3 for 3 with phil.

vote phil

[What]

My package is set to go off tonight or tomorrow during the day.

Kind of needed you on that one blade, Stars has the functional IQ of a roasted chestnut.

I don't necessarily buy the Phil outing. Seems to me like you're reading too much into the comment and a possible typo. And Phil certainly wasn't the only one not around. I'm still leaning towards Hippo and now Zambi. Zambi's comments today are suspicous as fuck and he was the one who "saw" the typo.

I am also a Cop. Most likely naive as all of my results have been innocent:

D1 - Blade

D2- Scrib

D3- Zambi

No reason not to wait for everyone still in this game to talk before we start pushing too hard.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I had no idea what kind of package you got.

Based off the last bomb going off, it looks like it takes 1 night phase and 2 day phases to go off.

[What]

mine is either tonight or the next day

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It did say it wasn't a bomb, but that it would probably explode.

[StarsMine]

I still do not buy for a second that two bombs were given out after anarchist died.

Blade did defuse my bomb.

And cyber, stop worrying so god damn much about the arsonist.

[What]

You not buying a fact is not surprising. Please remain quiet until the adults figure this thing out.

The arsonist is the biggest issue left as we have no way of dealing with the dousing aside from killing the arsonist.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I visited you twice What so I doubt you have an explosive.

[What]

I recieved no notice that i was visited last night.

As stated before, The night before i recieved noticed i was visited and someone took away a package, which i don't think i even had, then after that i was visited by someone else who gave me another package.

[StarsMine]

I dont buy it, cause you dont have one as blade points out.

[What]

I dont buy it, cause you dont have one as blade points out.

Shhhh, people are talking.

[Nemesis]

stand by a sec everyone, think there was a mistake possibly, give me 5.

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yup, i can't really say much, but there was an error caused by a player that has caused something to happen now. i will fix it but I can't say here, assume some people may abruptly change their story and assume it was my fault.

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ok carry on playing.

[What]

Apparently I no longer have a bomb, likely due to the sequence that Nem received and then wrote the actions.

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So, still waiting to hear from people. Out of the people left, Hippo, Stars, Phil, and Zambi are the only ones to choose from.

[I'm a zambi]

The arsonist is the biggest issue left as we have no way of dealing with the dousing aside from killing the arsonist.
This.

Stars, I'm not sure why you keep pushing on the arsonist being a minor inconvenience.

I'd like to hear what phil and hippo have to say.

[What]

I'd like to hear what you have to say Zambi. Its day 3 in a game where everyone is going to have a role, you have to have something to bring to the table.

[I'm a zambi]

:smirk:

[What]

I would encourage you to speak up, as the potential pool of suspects is quite small. If you can not eliminate yourself from contention then that is telling.

[I'm a zambi]

Why so serious?

[What]

I don't think you are helping in the way you think you are.

[I'm a zambi]

Do explain? I've forsaken my win condition in favor of a town win.

[What]

Do explain? I've forsaken my win condition in favor of a town win.

Most likely bullshit. However, I'm sure there is a way to dispense with you at night to mitigate any chances.

[I'm a zambi]

Most likely bullshit. However, I'm sure there is a way to dispense with you at night to mitigate any chances.
You're welcome to lynch me and find out. :)

[Passarelli]

Do explain? I've forsaken my win condition in favor of a town win.

Umm, and what might that be? If you can't win with town, Town has to get rid of you eventually. I'm more worried about arsonist personally this day.

[What]

I'm sure there I won't be able to encourage the requisite number of votes, and as already stated, there should be a way to get rid of you at night.

Well that leaves, Phil, Hippo, and Stars to bring something to the table. Once all the info is in we can move on from there.

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He is claiming jester, Pass. Which literally makes no sense and is likely a cover. OR he is a complete idiot.

[I'm a zambi]

He is claiming jester, Pass. Which literally makes no sense and is likely a cover. OR he is a complete idiot.
I've sided with town since the start, figuring I'd probably get mislynched day 2 or 3. At this point, I'm not willing to pretend to be town. I'm actually quite surprised I haven't received a bomb or been doused yet either. (shrug)

[Passarelli]

Oh, by the way--I've stolen What's vote every night so far, mostly to fuck with him. I'm actually voteless. I'll be sure to get Phil's, Zambi's, Star's, or Hippo's tonight.

[What]

Well i havent voted on the person lynched each night so far so no harm, no foul.

Also, fuck you.

[I'm a zambi]

Oh, by the way--I've stolen What's vote every night so far, mostly to fuck with him. I'm actually voteless. I'll be sure to get Phil's, Zambi's, Star's, or Hippo's tonight.
lewl, I knew there was a thief. It didn't make sense for us to not have one since we had a jester.

You're welcome to my vote, though I'm fairly certain the remaining mafia & arsonist are phil & hippo.

[Passarelli]

What, I can't do so, but if I protect cyber tonight, as long as we get everyone but zambi, we should win. Tomorrow it will be me, you, cyber, and if cyber clears one of the others. Arsonist is scary, but yay for this crazy JoAT survivor BS is all I gotta say.

Really want to know who got doused.

[What]

Hippo has been telegraphing scum since day 1. Phil hasn't really been around, could well be something, and I don't trust stars at all since he has been as dumb as a sack of hammers. I am just incredulous that that could be real and not an act.

[Passarelli]

Stars could also be anarchist or w/e is the Mafia left

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If there even is a mafia

[What]

He could be arsonist. He had a bomb, or so he claimed, and Blade didn't die at night. He also keeps stupidly saying not to worry about the arsonist.

We have to hear from Phil and Hippo, see who, if anyone, was doused, and really just get some claims out there.

[I'm a zambi]

Blade confirmed his bomb earlier. There should be one anarchist left.

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@Pass

[Passarelli]

Sorry, I meant arsonist >_> Blade removing his bomb is likely the reason we are still alive.

[BladeTwinSwords]

My Actions:

N1: What (No Bomb)

N2: What (Removed Bomb)

N3: Stars (Removed Bomb)

[Assassin]

stand by a sec everyone, think there was a mistake possibly, give me 5.

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yup, i can't really say much, but there was an error caused by a player that has caused something to happen now. i will fix it but I can't say here, assume some people may abruptly change their story and assume it was my fault.

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ok carry on playing.

Ahhhahhahaha. Mook.

[StarsMine]

What, will you quit it. Nem fucked up. It was his mistake that caused me to call bullshit on your claims.

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Also yea, it would be nice to know who got doused

[hippo]

Holy shit, that's a lot of messages. Will read when I come home in 2 hours

[What]

It wasn't his mistake that made you call bullshit, it was your incredibly ignorant insistence that I was lying, even after I was cleared by Cyber and claimed Cop. The error that was made in no way impact the reality of the information being conveyed nor does it provide a convenient excuse for you pretending you are not incredibly stupid and naive.

[CYBER]

N4: Stars (KEEP THE DAMN Bomb)


There. That's your mission for the following night lol.

I keep getting this eerie feeling that smthn is missing.

Here are the ASSUMPTIONS (nothing is certain) based on what I have read or felt so far.

Scribble : Dead. Paranoid? COP.
Assassin: Modkilled. insane cop
Zuki: Lynched. Mafia Godfather
Jiggly: Lynched. Mafia Anarchist

What : naive COP? both anarchists hit him night 1?
Cyber: miller COP?
Pass: 3rd party JOAT.


Zambi: Jester ? (not buying it...)
Hippo ?
Phil ?
Stars ?

We have : Anarchist, Arsonist, PA System

What is bothering me is that the PA system seems to know a lot more about the night phases than he should. At first i thought it was Nemesis fucking with us in his own game because he said he will lie to us.

But considering the amount of cops we have around, one of each kind, it IS possible that the PA system is a role cop, or flavor cop most likely to make it more balanced with the anonymous ...
Just my two cents.

The PA system was snarky from the beginning, even when strongfield was around so im ruling out Phil as the PA system because the messages have been consistent.

So let's say based on the mass claimed roles, that PA is either Hippo or Stars (most likely stars considering the PA criticised What specifically earlier)...
That makes it , based on the pigeon hole rule, that Phil HAS to be one of the two leftoever roles: Anarchist or arsonist.

I know there's an assumption that the roles claimed so far are true, but we don't know of any other role being in effect this game...


I hope someone understands where I'm going at with this.
The "safest" lynch today is Phil, and stars/hippo/zambi should the priority to handle tomorrow while keeping Zambi matched with AT LEAST 3 TOWNIES at the start of each night, in case he killed one of them, to avoid a tie at end game in the morning... juuuuust ON THE OFF CHANCE that he isn't a jester..

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oh and ps: WHO THE FUCKING HELL GOT DOUSED

[What]

PA is almost certainly Pass

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Cyber, I am almost certainly Naive, given the innocent reading I got on Zambi.

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The PA didn't criticize me it just pointed out that it was interesting i voted for a claimed cop. And given that the PA isn't drooling all over itself it can't be Stars.

[CYBER]

PA is almost certainly Pass

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Cyber, I am almost certainly Naive, given the innocent reading I got on Zambi.

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The PA didn't criticize me it just pointed out that it was interesting i voted for a claimed cop. And given that the PA isn't drooling all over itself it can't be Stars.

IF the PA system IS pass, then we have one player extra with 1 role missing ...(yes taking into account that the PA system might have role/flavor cop... which MIGHT make sense as an X shot ability on pass, due to him claiming he can get proof vs giving protection with his JOAT)..

so again... hippo phil stars...
anarchist for mafia (or mafia team 1...?) and 3rd party arsonist...
There's 1 more role out there... traitor maybe? I'm winging in the dark here... unless Zambi + hippo/phil/stars (leftoever guy) are their own team...

something is fucking eerie af... @PASS? @What? thoughts?.


PHIL GET YO MEXICAN ASS OVER HERE.

[What]

My thoughts are calm your tits and wait for people to talk before hypothesizing more on endless possibilities. The pool is small enough that people need to share what they know and how they know it. Bullshit is easy to detect on that route. Hippo has been textbook new guy playing scum, Phil hasn't been around much but easily could be as could Stars who only pops in to drop incoherent and idiotic ramblings.

I would assume Zambi is lying, or just a total idiot to give up on the game for no reason.

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My suspicion on stars is that he has been around today, but only to be stupid and has not said a damn thing of substance or importance. At least Phil and Hippo have essentially been absent.

[I'm a zambi]

I would assume Zambi is lying, or just a total idiot to give up on the game for no reason.
I haven't lied once this game. I just know that my win condition won't be fulfilled so I've decided to side with town.

[What]

I fulfilled your mom's win condition last night.

*zing*

[CYBER]

My thoughts are calm your tits and wait for people to talk before hypothesizing more on endless possibilities. The pool is small enough that people need to share what they know and how they know it. Bullshit is easy to detect on that route. Hippo has been textbook new guy playing scum, Phil hasn't been around much but easily could be as could Stars who only pops in to drop incoherent and idiotic ramblings.

I would assume Zambi is lying, or just a total idiot to give up on the game for no reason.

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My suspicion on stars is that he has been around today, but only to be stupid and has not said a damn thing of substance or importance. At least Phil and Hippo have essentially been absent.


kk.

I'll let you guys do your thing... I'll see you guys whenever I get a chance.

oh and IF i disappear for 24 hours without posting, then it's me forgetting about this game bcos busy schedule, so I am GIVING permission for ya'll mofos to make Nemesis ping me a reminder if you guys need my input or vote.

unvote phil. (even tho i'm leaning for him the most. I dislike having hanging votes when there's a risk of AFK on my part...)

[I'm a zambi]

I fulfilled your mom's win condition last night.
You must have some pretty low standards. That isn't really anything to brag about.

[StarsMine]

Cyber, go with PA system is Pass with your logic there, that will lead you in the right direction.

[StarsMine]

Vote Phil

Between phil and hippo I suppose

[hippo]

Vote Phil

Between phil and hippo I suppose

Your mom is between phil and hippo. What, am I doing this right?

Anyway, no one answered me about getting doused and I don't think anyone mentioned getting a bomb (did What say he got a bomb?). Phil might be the one doused then.

Cyber, are you 100% sure What is town, because you can be a random cop. You got 2 guilty's and then an innocent?

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Anyway, as of right now, Phil is our best bet. I want to wait until he makes a post this day though

[phil.™]

Sorry, busy day today.

I didn't really read through it to be honest, I just read through how many people actually brought up my name. I was kinda disappointed the person didn't bring up my name which would have helped. I am a town, and a simple but useful power.
Night one target, ended up day after, mafia. Night two targeted, ended up day after, mafia. This day talk, he didn't speak my name.

but something did happen to me last night, I got doused.

vote hippo

[StarsMine]

unvote
Vote hippo]

[hippo]

I am a town

Oh Phil, you're so convincing.

Anyway, if we don't have any lead and want to avoid a serious mislynch, I would be the safest mislynch (unless there's some hidden shit in there). After reading the posts, Zambi seems to be the most suspicious. Someone claimed that he might be jester, but that's kind of weird since before that Zambi was the only one who even brought up the topic of jesters

[I'm a zambi]

Anyway, as of right now, Phil is our best bet. I want to wait until he makes a post this day though
I think you're both anti-town. My only preference for who dies first is arson and it looks like that's you.

Unvote.
Vote hippo.

[hippo]

My only preference for who dies first is arson and it looks like that's you

How am I supposed to light a match. I don't even have opposable thumbs...or night actions. I'm gonna show up town and you're all gonna feel like shit and mourn me

[CYBER]

Your mom is between phil and hippo. What, am I doing this right?

Anyway, no one answered me about getting doused and I don't think anyone mentioned getting a bomb (did What say he got a bomb?). Phil might be the one doused then.

Cyber, are you 100% sure What is town, because you can be a random cop. You got 2 guilty's and then an innocent?

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Anyway, as of right now, Phil is our best bet. I want to wait until he makes a post this day though

It's a possibility but VERY unlikely.

I got 2 innocents at first, and my third one actually came back to with "neither", and pass got confirmed 3rd party by himself when he doesn't need to and could have simply pleaded that I was random.

So although it could possible that What's some kind of secondary gf or wtvr shithead with the opposite of miller as modifier, the very likelihood of this happening is VERY VERY rare compared to the amount of other more prominent candidates, such as yourself :)

I hope you understand that this is not because you're new or What's a vet or wtvr, this is purely based on the results I got and the law of probability for What , and pigeonholing for you and phil.

[What]

Just claim your fucking roles, all 3 of you.

Stars has added nothing at all, literally nothing. If anything we are all a little dumber for having listened.

Hippo is screaming Scum right now, still claim what your fucking role is.

Phil, same with you. Explain what the fuck you are talking about.

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Cyber, I am almost certainly naïve, slim chance of random but I doubt it. If you were random, you wouldn't have gotten the weird 3rd party response. You're probably normal. 4 cops, 2 of which had the possibility of being viable, the other 2 just red herrings.

[hippo]

It's all good Daddy Cyber. Like I said, if we have no direction at all and want to progress the game, lynch me

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Just claim your fucking roles, all 3 of you.
Hippo is screaming Scum right now, still claim what your fucking role is.

I'm Cyber's mother

[What]

Oh and Stars, it was cyber's logic which made him think you were the PA, which is why he is normally policy lynched.

[CYBER]

Ok Phil claims dousing, no counter claim so far.
Phil's a mafia anarchist, and hippo/zambi is dousing ppl imo.


I need a head count. How many people do we have that are NOT doused or bombed? (sry i lost track over the course of the day...)

Basically, what is the main priority, and risk/reward of lynching any of them.

[hippo]

Cyber, I've never been doused nor have I have received anything and nor have I ever sent a night action. I'm just here enjoying the view

[What]

No one claimed to get a bomb today to my recollection.

Hippo is certainly scum. Phil can be as well. Risk is not killing the arsonist.

Stars is not as subtle as he thinks he is, but I won't say what he is in case I'm wrong. I don't want to give him any ideas. Point is, unless he is the arsonist, the only reason he is still alive is because the arsonist is an idiot. SO, I'd wager hippo over Zambi. As much as I don't trust him, he has shown to be rather adept at reading and understanding things, which is why I don't like his claim.

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Hippo, there is literally no negative for you to claim your role. This continued crap is only hurting you.

[hippo]

Ok so:

Blade: Defuser
Cyber: Cop
What: Cop
Pass: Survivor JOAT
Hippo: Cyber's Mother

Phil, Stars, Zambi unknown

Possible roles left: Arsonist, Mafia (Anarchist?), Jester (?)

[What]

You can't expect people to believe you if you just dick around. Arsonist has to be you, Zambi, or Stars. Zambi has made a claim, you have not.

[hippo]

That's literally what my role is, I would quote my PM if I could.

Cyber's Mother = VT

[What]

That is, a very likely possibility.

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Blade, Pass, and Phil are apparently doused


Ball is in your court Stars and Phil, show your cards or rest in peace.

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I would encourage people to unvote for now. No reason to rush anything. We have time to sort through the bullshit.

[StarsMine]

Since there appears to be no chance of role block

Hose Jockey, why do I keep telling you guys not to worry about a damn arsonist. I have hosed down everyone, or at least attempted to who has said they were doused. Blade and pass have both been hosed down.

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Also what, please note that scribble cleared me as town very early on in this game.

[What]

No shit that's what you are claiming. Scribble would not have been able to clear you early in the game.

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Hence also my conclusion the arsonist is an idiot.

[StarsMine]

Investigated stars. Got a guilty.

Sorry you are right, Assassin was the one who cleared me

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Its not like the arsonist could do anything w/o a role block to stop me.

[What]

We don't know his modifier, he could not have cleared you. That you don't understand that yet pains my heart in a way you will never understand. But again, they say ignorance is bliss.

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Usually firefighter, like doctor, can't self target, he could douse and light you.

[StarsMine]

Yea, we do know assassins modifier. What the fuck are you talking about scribbles death and a simple logic graph forces it. Cyber figured it out. Zambi figured it out, Blade has figured it out. You are so upset about me not trusting you due to nem's mistake is making you obnoxious.

[What]

They haven't figured anything out. Ass investigate two people, got guilty on both.

Scribble investigated himself and Cyber, got guilty.

If we buy everyones claims, that means that both got two guilty verdicts on innocent people, meaning they could be either paranoid or insane.

Stop pretending like you can tell what's going, it just makes you look even worse when you act like people.

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And I'm not upset about you not trusting me, or upset at anything. I am concerned for your mental well being when you repeatedly demonstrate an inability to decipher even the clearest of information. That in turn makes me suspicious in general of you because how a person with this deficiency can even use a computer is astounding, which has me hold out hope its an act. However, you seem to go out of your way to insist and demonstrate that no, its not an act, its just the severe burden of idiocy you are doomed to carry through life.

[Passarelli]

We should lynch Hippo imo, if Phil has a way to prove himself. Phil, stop being cryptic at this point. If your power can prove yourself as town, explain how then do it. Just don't try to interact with Cyber. Cyber targets Stars. If Stars is scum, he is the arsonist. I don't trust him as I wasn't notified that I was cleansed, which would be odd since I was notified that I was doused and bomb people were told they were bombed. If we have protection from both, how would scum actually kill town?

If Stars IS being truthful, we go after Phil if his shit falls through. If he checks out, Zambi?

Right now town has 3 full clears and a survivor working with them. There are 7 people. If Stars is being truthful, Scum has no way of winning. If Stars is lying and Blade dies, Star's will be without a vote with Cyber, What, and hopefully a cleared Phil.

I should also make it through with the stupid strong powers I have.

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What, let me know where you want your vote, and I'll throw it for you.

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Wait, never mind. Phil got doused. Let me confirm I'll live before we try this; and if not and I die, if Stars would still be voteless.

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I should live through the fire. If I do die somehow, then Stars would get his vote back. I still think the plan is pretty solid.

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So actually Stars might be the better target. if he is lying, he is the arsonist and we will have protected everyone doused. If he is telling the truth, then only Phil is currently at risk of dying.

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This post looks like cyber made it. Sorry. I've been on hold with my boss for ~40 minutes now.

[SCRIBBLE]

Hang up and call back. Why would you stay on hold for 40 minutes?

[phil.™]

Ok so:

Blade: Defuser
Cyber: Cop
What: Cop
Pass: Survivor JOAT
Hippo: Cyber's Mother

Phil, Stars, Zambi unknown

Possible roles left: Arsonist, Mafia (Anarchist?), Jester (?)

I'm pretty sure out of the 5, 2 of 5 is lying. 1 being hippo lol, and other, i'm not sure, can't get a good read off of it.

And don't tell me what to do. You're not my real mom. I can claim or not claim if I want. But i already did claim. So suck by big, black, frost bite.

[StarsMine]

wow pass, you right, it looks like an old cyber post, shit logic and all. At least this game cyber has been rather useful with his posts.

[CYBER]

We should lynch Hippo imo, if Phil has a way to prove himself. Phil, stop being cryptic at this point. If your power can prove yourself as town, explain how then do it. Just don't try to interact with Cyber.

This.
PHIL and HIPPO, claim the fuck up. RIGHT NOW.
If you are town, no matter what role you claim, you have absolutely ZERO reason why you shouldn't claim.
If you are town, you actually hurting town more than benefiting it with your cryptic shit. It's as simple as that.

The only person with a risk of dying at the moment is Phil IF we lynch a firefighter (if such exists).
And your stupid cryptic shit is just adding more variables to the table.

Claim. Full claims. AND night night actions done. NOW.

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But i already did claim. .

quote it and hard claim phil.
your opinion on who YOU think is scum or not, from hippo or others, really doesn't matter at this point because we have no supporting evidence to either confirm nor deny your opinion...
waiting on you.

Prove yourself needed, and I'll reconsider lynching hippo or zambi over you...

[hippo]

I did claim. I'm your mom (VT) and I had no night actions (obviously).

This is why I said I'm the safest mislynch

[CYBER]

I did claim. I'm your mom (VT) and I had no night actions (obviously).

This is why I said I'm the safest mislynch

a VT in this setup just doesn't make sense short of nemesis fucking with us.
it's too under Powered vs all the other roles. Hell he could have even given you the damn PA system for all he cared.
so you just straight up stayed home at night for the last 2 nights?

[hippo]

a VT in this setup just doesn't make sense short of nemesis fucking with us.
it's too under Powered vs all the other roles. Hell he could have even given you the damn PA system for all he cared.
so you just straight up stayed home at night for the last 2 nights?

Yaw, I'm too lazy to do shit at night. And, from my understanding, VT's are essential for balancing. It's not a role madness game

[Passarelli]

wow pass, you right, it looks like an old cyber post, shit logic and all. At least this game cyber has been rather useful with his posts.

I'm super impressed by your counter points. I especially like how you pointed out how horribly bad the reasoning is as to why I think you are full of shit. Also, your alternative is a beautiful work of craftsmanship that will assuredly bring victory to town.

Oh wait, you did none of that. My bad.

From his shitty useless response and the fact that town is in rough shape ONLY if he is lying, I really want to Lynch him.

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Also, I can give proof of my role (or at least one of my 1x abilities) or give you some semblance of protection.

And yes, I am the PA system. Jesus you are a numbskull sometimes, Cyber.

Sorry I missed those posits earlier.

[What]

Welcome to the realization that Stars is a barely functioning human Pass, it gets more fun from this point on.

Cyber has had several typos and mistakes in his posts, so, no Stars, just no. Also, I see you dropped the whole "I'm cleared" thing, it looks like its trying to learn guys!

Pass has a point. If Stars is lying, then town is in a bad way, and 3 people can die tonight. If he is telling the truth, on Phil is in danger, and that is not necessarily a bad thing. If he dies from fire and turns up scum, great, if its town, well we know that the arsonist is likely Zambi. We have numbers so we will be fine.

I don't know how well Hippo knows you Cyber, and the useless Cyber's mother thing does seem like a Nemesis thing. You said why would he do it if not just to fuck with us, and that would be your answer right there.

I want to wait for Phil's claim, but I do see the strategic value in taking out Stars.

[Passarelli]

If he is lying, and we lynch hippo, Phil and Blade will die tonight. I have 1x death immunity.

That would leave Cyber and What as town, Stars as arsonist, Zambi as a jester? and myself as survivor, so it would still maybe work out if zambi is a jester.

Lynching stars would replace him with hippo if he or zambi were the arsonist.

Phil is the 'safe' bet, as if he isn't the arsonist blade would also die, but no one else. So it'd be Cyber, What, Hippo, Stars, Zambi, and myself.

So yeah, those are the 3 options. Do you guys think we have another killer? If not, I could try stopping the match rather than protecting Cyber.

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That said, I really think stars is the arsonist.

[CYBER]

It's fucking shitty that out of Stars, hippo, phil and zambi,
at least one town is being too much of a tard and comes off as scum.

Option 1:
Lynch Stars, investigate phil/hippo (zambi already claimed third party so investigating him is useless)

- If stars is arsonist, then based on result of my investigation we lynch accordingly (with zambi in mind)
But overall, good outcome.

- If stars firefighter. Baaad. I do same investigation on Phil/Hippo.
Arsonight will douse and ignite Phil and <other>. That person can, at worst case scenario, be a townie such as blade. This will put us at LyLo to hit BOTH killer scum roles on the back to back nights, otherwise we lose by tie to whichever is alive, due to pass's alignment being neutral.

If stars is anarchist, mafia loses, anarchist gets 2 ppl killed, worst case Phil and Town again like blade.
The difference between this point and just before, is that Town will be Me and What vs Arsonist vs Survivor vs zambi's jester claim.
We WILL be at MyLo since we'd have that day, and only the immediate following day to kill arsonist.

OPTION 2:
We lynch hippo who claims VT. investigate stars/phil.
The EXACT scenario as above, except he doesn't claim being firefighter, so the shittiest scenario is thankfully off the table, even if hippo WAS a VT...

OPTION 3:We lynch Phil. Investigate stars/hippo.
Same as option 2.

So keep in mind that Zambi's not new to this, and his jester hint is spot on because it adds the risk of lynching him.

Also keep in mind that i will get a result for investigation in all case scenarios.
If I hit a scum, then we are still at MyLo, because we lynch that person, but need to lynch the second one the day after if blade is dead.
If I hit a TOWN, then we finally can rest a little, because Then we would have the numbers between What, myself, and X person to actually sustain through the hit the following night.

So I really think that lynching stars is the LEAST favorable option.
Phil is the safest imho since he hasn't claimed VT, not has he given us anything worth a damn.

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as you can see YET AGAIN, I very much think that the biggest threat in the game is arsonist right now vs the anarchist..until blade bites the dust.

[hippo]

I don't see how you all think I'm scummy. I helped encourage the Jiggly lynch first day, and he turned out Anarchist. Even if he's useless as a player, that's a strong role for mafia. I'm not Arsonist either, although I can't prove that until either I get doused or the Arsonist gets outed.

I think Phil hinted at having a protective-ish role but is avoiding a hard claim, probably because he doesn't want to be counterclaimed. Personally, I don't think anyone is clear, other than perhaps Cyber

[phil.™]

Either way, i'm a dead man, lynched on this day, or gonna die tomorrow.
I'm a town vigilante, with 1 shot each night. So hippo saying he's a "VT" ? a Vanilla?

So yeah, if you want a "safe" lynch and don't care about town, then goooooo right ahead and lynch me, don't listen to anything I have to say. Cause when the package is this pretty on the outside, nobody cares what's on the inside.

[StarsMine]

why would you die tomorrow?

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Wait what package phil, you said you were doused, not that you had a package

[phil.™]

Wait what package phil, you said you were doused, not that you had a package

I was referring to a "Friends" quote. Joey Tribbiani. Nvm. You should watch it, it is a good episode.

[What]

No one said they got a package today, its possible we don't have another bomb giver and the only thing making it look like that was the error in sending actions.

Cyber, arsonist can not douse and light in the same night, its an either/or. So your scenario is wrong.

If Phil is a vig, he can just shoot Zambi tonight for safe keeping.


Stars, just stop talking, you......you aren't good at things.

[What]

Personally, I don't think anyone is clear, other than perhaps Cyber

This, this is why we all think you are scum. The old, "but man it could be anyone! I mean we can't trust information and facts right?"

[CYBER]

Cyber, arsonist can not douse and light in the same night, its an either/or. So your scenario is wrong.

If Phil is a vig, he can just shoot Zambi tonight for safe keeping.


I read in Pass's comment just before that it would be smthn like Phil and blade dying, so i just didnt pay much attention because some mods DO allow douse/ign as i stated before but only if the arsonist has ONE ignite, to give him a chance in LyLo vs mafia. but again, that's usually not the norm, usually it's either OR, so i agree. That gives us at least 1 more night thankfully.

Phil? so you're a vigilante? shoot zambi tonight.
You want us to trust you? Zambi better end up getting killed at night or you're lynched tomorrow.

[What]

The arsonist is either just a fancy kind of serial killer, or has the either/or douse/ignite option. The 1-shot arsonist you are describing is usually a town aligned role since its essentially impossible for 1 shot to win the game as a 3rd party.

[CYBER]

We need to make a decision here.


I vote for the following: unvote , vote hippo.
I investigate Phil OR stars.
Phil shoots Zambi. If zambi survives, we lynch phil tomorrow.
Pass protects me hopefully so i can get my result
we use said result to clear/condemn one of the dynamic duo, with zambi no longer a threat.
Lynch accordingly.
Profit?


Look... This sounds so straightforward at the moment, which feels eerie at times.
But I try to remind myself that we got HELLA lucky with the 2 mafias basically AFKing and getting themselves killed.
So i keep telling myself that had this not happened, we'd probably be 2 other people down, in a state of confusion about who's the right cop.


Ok What, Pass, and blade.
Is there something I missed that might cause us to straight up lose the game or get surprised by a bullshit twist that ends up crippling town, based on the input we've had so far.

[What]

The arsonist is not, Me, Cyber, Pass, or Blade. That is pretty certain.

Zambi claims Jester

Phil claims Vig

Hippo claims VT

Stars claims Firefighter.


Obviously at least 1 is lying perhaps more. The VT claim does stink to me, stink real bad. As does the jester, but if Phil can kill zambi, then good. He could be lying about getting doused and be the Arsonist, but that doesn't seem to have any real benefit with it. Stars has been telegraphing firefighter for a long time, which leads me to believe he is either the arsonist, or as said before, the arsonist is an idiot. Look who was doused, Pass, Blade, and Phil. I can see either hippo or zambi making those selections.

Given the flavor, the "joker to the thief" thing, and given we have a 3rd party thief, we may well have a 3rd party joker aka jester. It is possible. Bringing us back to Stars, Phil, and Hippo.

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I would be good with killing Hippo, I've been saying that since day 1. I'll wait for Blade and Pass to give their two cents.

Stars, stay in the corner, I put some shiny foil there to keep you company.

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Pass's comment was in reference to Stars being the arsonist, Pass can protect himself, but he would light Phil and Blade.

[I'm a zambi]

Obviously at least 1 is lying perhaps more. The VT claim does stink to me, stink real bad.
Something to note: Cyber's Mom was a Hooker the last time it was used, I highly doubt she would be a VT.

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a VT in this setup just doesn't make sense short of nemesis fucking with us.
it's too under Powered vs all the other roles. Hell he could have even given you the damn PA system for all he cared.
so you just straight up stayed home at night for the last 2 nights?
This is also what doesn't sit well with me. A VT simply doesn't make sense in this setup, flavor aside.

[What]

I don't think we have evidence for a hooker do we? Has anyone had an issue with their actions?

[I'm a zambi]

I don't think we have evidence for a hooker do we? Has anyone had an issue with their actions?
No, I don't think there's a hooker in this setup. I'm just saying, the role flavor has been used before and it was for mafia. I don't believe for a second that Nem would suddenly turn that role town.

[What]

No, I don't think there's a hooker in this setup. I'm just saying, the role flavor has been used before and it was for mafia. I don't believe for a second that Nem would suddenly turn that role town.

Likely. Like I said before Zambi, you have shown yourself to be sound and logical at these games, that's why I am suspicious of your claim. But we shall see, it comes out in the end.

[phil.™]

Unvote me, now. And vote hippo. Just. Do. It.