All Along The Watchtower

[Nemesis]

The Players:

1. Assassin - B
2. Hippo - C
3. Zambi - C
4. Jiggly - C
5. Scribble - C
6. Strongfield - B
7. Zuki - B
8. What - C
9. BladeTwinSwords - C
10. Cyber - C
11. StarsMine
12. Pass - C

Roles are being sent out. Once 8 out of the 12 players confirm. The game will begin.

Some Notes:
I am your God, what I say, is law.
I can change my mind at any point.
Any attempt to cheat will result in removal of the game and deportation.
There is no Jester.
I plan on lying to you.
I made this game because I hate you.
There is no Jester.
There's got to be some kind of way out of here...


All roles sent out.
8/12

[CYBER]

1- Confirmed.
2- There is no Jester.
3- I plan on lying to you.
4- There is no Jester.
5- Jester also confirmed.

- - - Updated - - -

well played nemesis -.-

[I'm a zambi]

Confirmed.

[JigglyPuff]

Confirmed

[SCRIBBLE]

Confirmed.

[hippo]

Confirmed

[Passarelli]

Confirmed.

[What]

Turgid with anticipation

[BladeTwinSwords]

Confirmed

[Nemesis]

…said the joker To the thief. hde 2.2.6.8.6.8.

welcome to dead nigger storage.

i was going to do a day start, since you all wanted to play, but

fuck you all,

night 1 niggers

send me your actions, if you have them

you have 37 hours.
.
..
...
.

[Assassin]

Confirmed

[PA SYSTEM]

https://youtu.be/ZKRthr8GK5s

The fly is Blade.

[Zuki]

Confirmed

[StrongfieldtheGerman]

Confirmed

[Nemesis]

look around at this WOrld we've made, equality Our stock in trade. come and join the brotherhood oF man.

day 1 begins

a quiet night, the calm before the storm, you're still....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yv5nmYwDZ8

[Assassin]

So either we have a doc or rb and they chose correctly the first night or the only unconfirmed person is the mafia killer

[I'm a zambi]

So either we have a doc or rb and they chose correctly the first night or the only unconfirmed person is the mafia killer
It's also possible that a vest was hit or we have someone who's poisoned. We'll have to see when more people post.

[Passarelli]

There is an arsonist. I doubt there is a fireman since I was told I was doused.

[hippo]

That explains the lack of 3rd party kill.

Stars is the only unconfirmed person but I doubt that he wouldn't send in an action. If no action was sent on behalf of mafia, it's probably one of the newer people. I'm thinking vest

[What]

I doubt that there was no action sent in, thats an idiotic reason.

If it was a vest, it means mafia likely hit the arsonist, but I'm going to go with Doctor or RB. We just have to wait and see for a bit if anyone got any information to go off of.

[Assassin]

Does fireman block like a rb for arsonist or do they choose someone to "undouse"

[What]

anyone want to talk about the PA system message, with its non-existent video.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Fireman undouses the person chosen

[CYBER]

If there's a fireman, then now they know to go cleanse pass. I don't think pass would know if he got undouzed for not, so it's a risk we're gonna have to take, whether there is or isnt a fireman.

I'm waiting for everyone to have checked the thread and answered the following questions before: "Do you have a vest, and was it it?"

I'm interested in hearing what Scribble and pass have to say about their guesses for the night.

[Passarelli]

I'm waiting for everyone to have checked the thread and answered the following questions before: "Do you have a vest, and was it it?"

I think that is a scummy as fuck thing to ask. If you were hit, you should claim being hit. You should not announce that you have a vest before that, as it means mafia won't target you.

My guess is we are dealing with a werewolf (cult) from the WOOF in the flavor text, a mafia, and an arsonist.

- - - Updated - - -

Also, I doubt we have a fireman, or else I wouldn't have gotten the message saying I was doused. Otherwise, the arsonist can't kill anyone until the fireman dies.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I would consider it seriously scummy to ask if someone has a vest

- - - Updated - - -

I agree with Pass in that we should assume not having a fireman. This is a bastard game after all.

[hippo]

Maybe there is no mafia? Just a werewolf/cult and arsonist? Having all 3 would be tough on town and that would explain the deathless night

[StarsMine]

I have not confirmed yet because it was at night. Dont be talking at night yo.

[Assassin]

Lol 3 of us confirmed at night stars. And even I don't think Nem is that much of a dick fuck to kill you for saying confirmed at night on the first night.

- - - Updated - - -

On that note though. Suffice it to say I have reasons but vote scribble

[What]

Yeah, incredibly idiotic to announce whether you have a vest or not.

Cult is hard as fuck to balance, which would mean we would have to have some serious firepower to combat it, especially with an arsonist.

vote Cyber Because that was a dumb as fuck thing to ask

[SCRIBBLE]

Assassin, if you just claimed to have info first day then you have just pulled either the most scummy or stupid move yet.

Anyways, I received a package last night. I don't want it, but I don't have much of a choice.

[What]

Assassin, if you just claimed to have info first day then you have just pulled either the most scummy or stupid move yet.

Anyways, I received a package last night. I don't want it, but I don't have much of a choice.

Was this "package" delivered through the "back door"?

[SCRIBBLE]

I wish it would have been...

[Assassin]

Voting people is a scummy now? Alert the pressed.

[What]

I'd rather alert the grammar Nazis, I mean sheesh.

[SCRIBBLE]

Lol 3 of us confirmed at night stars. And even I don't think Nem is that much of a dick fuck to kill you for saying confirmed at night on the first night.

- - - Updated - - -

On that note though. Suffice it to say I have reasons but vote scribble

You have reasons, which means you have info. The vote isn't scummy, the reasoning is. Either you just tried to make a claim, don't understand what "suffice it to say" means, or you are trying to make a scum move.

[Passarelli]

Nemesis, can you prod Strong? Based on the drama in admin abuse, I think he is out of the forums completely. If so, could you either replace or modkilled him?

[Nemesis]

Nemesis, can you prod Strong? Based on the drama in admin abuse, I think he is out of the forums completely. If so, could you either replace or modkilled him?

This matter has been looked into.

[What]

This matter has been looked into.

I looked into your mom's matter last night

*zing*

[Nemesis]

I looked into your mom's matter last night

*zing*

What has been modkilled.

[SCRIBBLE]

Strong probably thinks I'm going to forum ban him, which might be why he hasn't been on. I'll let him stay if he wants to continue playing mafia games.

[hippo]

So, to recap:

Cyber wants to know who has a vest
Assassin claims to have info
Scribble wants anal

[What]

Strong probably thinks I'm going to forum ban him, which might be why he hasn't been on. I'll let him stay if he wants to continue playing mafia games.

well you did say you were going to forum ban him, so........

[Assassin]

well you did say you were going to forum ban him, so........

Lol the funnies I miss. Sigh

[hippo]

In his last post, he was all like, 'oh this is my last post'

[JigglyPuff]

I don't think strong is gonna come back

[SCRIBBLE]

well you did say you were going to forum ban him, so........

Correct, but I forgot about the mafia games and how he was involved, which is why I am waiting.

- - - Updated - - -

Granted, I made no effort to let him know I was waiting.

[What]

Well, Nem said he was on it, so I'm sure if he is outty 5000 he will be replaced or the like.

[Assassin]

We should really keep this game going in the meantime

[What]

Well, the eyes are on you right now big boy.

[Nemesis]

a replacement has been found, strong has until 12am sunday est to start playing or he will be replaced by a mystery mexican.

continue your game.

[hippo]

I hope it's daddy Phil

[What]

I hope its not a giant, piece of human garbage prick that masquerades as a person.

[JigglyPuff]

Lol if it's daddy Phil comes rip

[What]

Side track aside:

PA system at night, thoughts on it, i didnt see the video and when i tried said it was removed.

Ass, are your reasons info based or random accusation based?

[I'm a zambi]

PA system at night, thoughts on it, i didnt see the video and when i tried said it was removed.

Ass, are your reasons info based or random accusation based?
The video was of a fly buzzing around Donald Trump. Here's a similar video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBaaJ_hD0c

The PA system said the fly was Blade.

[What]

So blade is "Buzzing around" the donald trump of this game?

Either the PA is Blade, and he is jerking us around or its someone who knows Blade and is just dicking around, since its unlikely the PA has another power, if that was the case we can eliminate all of the ZM rejects from consideration

[BladeTwinSwords]

Either way, there is a lot of dicks

[What]

Sounds like your mom's standard saturday night!

*zing*

[Assassin]

Info based.

[SCRIBBLE]

Lmao your info is wrong or you are scum.

[I'm a zambi]

So blade is "Buzzing around" the donald trump of this game?

Either the PA is Blade, and he is jerking us around or its someone who knows Blade and is just dicking around, since its unlikely the PA has another power, if that was the case we can eliminate all of the ZM rejects from consideration
PA is Nem, I looked up the PA's posts and it was used as a kind of secondary mod for another setup - (Nem's) space odyssey? something like that ...

[What]

PA is a role, not the mod.

[I'm a zambi]

Actually, I could be wrong ... I just skimmed that thread so I may not have picked up on its real purpose. Guess I should read through that thread.

- - - Updated - - -


PA is a role, not the mod.
Yeah, that seems to be the case from the other thread. That's what I get for skimming lol.

- - - Updated - - -

Here's the thread (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/11083-2013-A-Space-Mafia) for anyone interested.

[Assassin]

Lmao your info is wrong or you are scum.

No. And if I am then lynch me tomorrow. Well if I make it through then night that is

[PA SYSTEM]

Assassin is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAlNrtcPCLw

[hippo]

Assassin is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAlNrtcPCLw

Thanks daddy

[PA SYSTEM]

Videos are breaking for me. I'll try again later. Long story short, Assassin is "insane in the membrane"

[PA SYSTEM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAlNrtcPCLw

[StarsMine]

what the hell?

[What]

So........ you done been called out Ass.

How strongly do you feel, lets say in a percentage, that whatever info you may have, is a sure condemnation of Scribble?

[Assassin]

Well I'm 100 percent that the information I got condemns scribble. But if I am insane then it would be the opposite and scribble would be town..or not guilty as Nem puts it.

- - - Updated - - -

Then again assuming the pa system is Nem...he also said I'm going to lie to you. The only way were going to know my modfier and all that is to lynch scribble and see what he turns out to be.

[hippo]

So you investigated Scribble and it said that he was guilty? That's not 100%, especially in a bastard game.

And if we lynch him and he turns out to be innocent, oh well?

[Passarelli]

Assassin, you are bad. If you are a cop in a bastard game, the goal is to ID a few people. If you get two guilty in a row, you are most likely insane. Cop is much more powerful mid game because you can full clear several people. I wonder who is going to get doused tonight! Hopefully we have more than just you.

Also, if you are a cop, you should NEVER claim day 1. If anything, just vote it. If you die and flip, we'd look at how you voted early on days and use that data.

[Assassin]

No one does first night so it stands to reason we either have a doc or no mafia. If I do get doused im still not dead and scribble could very well be the arsonist. Or it could be I'm insane in which case me being a cop means nothing And I'm useless.

- - - Updated - - -

So my clears later would mean nothing as well.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Pass is correct. Never reveal as an investigative role Day 1-2

[Assassin]

I've said my reasons above. Normall I agree but this being what I said above. Normal rules and logic do not apply

[What]

Nem is not the PA system.

An insane Cop, if known to be insane, is just as useful as a regular cop.

Ass doesn't smell right.

My guess, Ass is a lyncher, Scribble is his target.

[Assassin]

No I'm not and how do we know Nem isn't the pa system? Is it You what?

[What]

I am not the PA system. The PA system is a role, Mod's don't have roles in their own games.

[Assassin]

I don't see it as a role listed anywhere. Can you link it?

[SCRIBBLE]

Ass, what's your role? There is a definite flaw in your plan, and it hinges on your exact role.

- - - Updated - - -

Meaning, you're lying and you're a lyncher or this game is far more fucked than your shitty first day cop claim is.

[Assassin]

I'm just a vanillia cop. No rolecop or anything. I checked you and got a guilty response from Nem. That's it. All I have. Idk if Nem is doing hidden mods but it's a bastard game so

[What]

Look at all the games it has been used, its a role. Your inability to look at past threads isn't my problem. Even if Zuki did already spoon feed one of them to you.

[SCRIBBLE]

Then you're definitely insane, and the PA is not lying.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Hell, he could be a random cop for all we know.

[Assassin]

That's what I meant before not insane blade. If so then I'm completely useless and my future clears would be been useless as well.

[SCRIBBLE]

You should have used another night to investigate someone else who you do not suspect to clear that up before not only outing yourself, but also trying to out someone with 100% certainty in a bastard mod game where you can not be 100% certain.

[Assassin]

He linked a previous game he used not an official mafia link. We have no idea how the role works then or the rules defined by it.

- - - Updated - - -

To what end scribble. I could've read someone wrong or what not anyways. The role is more of a determinant than my gut.

[What]

No, we know how it works since we have fully functioning brains. I am sorry for your handicap, but please don't assume everyone else is that way.

[Assassin]

Really so which side is the pa on then?

[SCRIBBLE]

To what end? You should have thought, "oh wow I struck guilty first try in a bastard game. Since hidden mods are a factor, I should probably wait another night to verify that i am either very lucky or have an insane modifier before claiming I am 100% certain on something." Instead, you outed yourself as cop with 100% certainty that I am guilty. The only thing you can be certain of is your results say that I guilty. Now it just sounds like you are a lyncher and I am your target, or you are an awful player that didn't consider important variables before claiming.

[Assassin]

Bastard != hidden mods just bastard roles scribble.

[SCRIBBLE]

I don't think you understand the definition or nature of a bastard mod game.

[Assassin]

I do. Its using roles that are bastard and not part of normal setups. Hidden mods if used...are still usually said before start. Not what they are but at least that they are in play

- - - Updated - - -

Otherwise it's use of roles like jester.

[SCRIBBLE]

Go to the mafiascum wiki, find the bastard mod page, and read for comprehension.

[Assassin]

This is all moot anyways either I'm useless or your an anti town. Only one way to find out either

[SCRIBBLE]

There are other ways to find out without potentially risking a useful Townie (me, definitely not you). The fact that lynching me is the only way you think you'll find out only reinforces the idea that you are a lyncher or just awful.

[Assassin]

Why would we believe the pa anyways. If that is the role they have...they have no way of knowing if im right or wrong.

- - - Updated - - -

I'm done with this. I gave the info i have my vote lays where it is. You'll can carry it from here.

[What]

there are a couple ways the PA would know you are wrong.

And an insane cop is not useless, you seem to not understand that either.

Your big diarrhea of posts has demonstrated your lack of thinking and understanding.

[Assassin]

I didnt mean insane I meant what blade said and the fact still remains there is only one way to know if I am or not

[BladeTwinSwords]

So you are willing to go the stupid route and potentially lynch a townie.

[Assassin]

I have the information i have blade. It's 50 50 if I'm right or wrong and either way it has to come out for us to move on. Do I want to lynch a townie...no of course not. But again I'm just going off what information i have.

[SCRIBBLE]

No point arguing with stupid. Let him have his lynch or his vote and let's move on. There only seem to be a few people active in this game, which is an issue in itself.

[hippo]

An insane cop is not useless. Assassin as an insane cop is :)

Hidden modifiers are only bastard if the mod doesn't say there are hidden modifiers. And we're in a bastard game, sooo

[StarsMine]

insane cop is not nesesarily useless. But if mafia knows who the cop is, then they pretty much are.

[What]

Ass is playing hard stupid.

Could be insane, could simply be a bus driver or other redirect, or, could be a lyncher, which seems to be to be a highly viable option.

I would more apt to lynch Ass than Scribble. Mainly because he wasted no time to wait and see if he could get info, see who is buddying up to who, etc and needlessly claimed cop early on. I real feel lyncher is what he is, that or stone cold stupid.

[Assassin]

Yet again you completely disregard the reasons why waiting wasn't viable this time. For people who say they are so smart you all don't think critically. You wanna lynch me Fucking go for it and when you're down the investigation role and what and scribble show up to be the anti town you all can suck a bag of dicks.

[What]

How was it not viable? Literally nothing had happened and most people had barely spoke, some not at all.

You literally pulled a classic lyncher gambit, claiming an investigation role unnecessarily with every reason for us to doubt you.

I'll gladly put my money were my mouth is unvote Vote Ass

If he turns up a regular cop, I'll fucking vote to lynch myself tomorrow.

- - - Updated - - -

I am not defending Scrib, I am against what you have been saying. It demonstrates either complete vapid stupidity or, you are playing dumb to try and pull off a quick win.
Lyncher is a bastard role afterall.

And it would literally make no sense if Scrib and I are mafia to be seen on collusion, since it would instantly lose us the game if you came up cop.

So in conclusion, you sir, can enjoy that lovely reusable tote of dicks.

- - - Updated - - -

Remember last game when Ass had a temper tantrum since his "clever" ploy failed and he accused everyone of being stupid for not believing him? As if his plans are so masterful people can't help but fall for them.

[CYBER]

Lol 3 of us confirmed at night stars. And even I don't think Nem is that much of a dick fuck to kill you for saying confirmed at night on the first night.

- - - Updated - - -

On that note though. Suffice it to say I have reasons but vote scribble

I beg to differ

- - - Updated - - -

It's a bastard game. And there has to be high probability of an insane or random or wtvr cop in this game.

So I'd say a test that checks validity of sanity should be in order. Because it sounds too easy assassin to nail scribble for scum on the first attempt. Even though he's a high value target for investigation by cops.

- - - Updated - - -


You should have used another night to investigate someone else who you do not suspect to clear that up before not only outing yourself, but also trying to out someone with 100% certainty in a bastard mod game where you can not be 100% certain.

This. When you get a scum result you don't just straight up. Out it but get another investigation down the road until it become risky

[SCRIBBLE]

I actually believe he could be a cop, but he is the absolute worst at considering what type of variables nemesis would include in a bastard mod game. The fact that he ignores hints being thrown in his face added to the PA system's claim, he will literally ruin the game. I could argue that allowing him to live another night would be advantageous, whether or not he investagtes appropriately or acts as cannon fodder.

He's stupid, but useful.

[CYBER]

Actually, I'm down for voting assassin. Lyncher is a probability yes.
But I'd say let's just let scum take care of him.

Assassin death will give out more information than we have.
Maybe even a lot more than scribble death. It would probably clear scribble or condemn him, and let us use that info to get a better eye out for things, like who wagonned him etc.

[SCRIBBLE]

Damned if I do, damned if I don't. He could very well be a lyncher.

[Assassin]

I'm really not. And what enjoy your lynch tomorrow when I'm revealed.

- - - Updated - - -

You guys can go for it. It'll just be bitter sweet to catch what up right away too.

[What]

I will enjoy tomorrow. You overplayed your hand.

And cyber if youre actually around, why did you suggest such an idiotic question to start with?

[I'm a zambi]

I'm of the opinion that we leave them both be. Let someone kill one of them and go from there. Let's look at new targets.

[What]

I took a look at your mom's targets last night.

*zing*

[CYBER]

I will enjoy tomorrow. You overplayed your hand.

And cyber if youre actually around, why did you suggest such an idiotic question to start with?


Yeah you can go ahead and scratch that vest thing. Figured that if someone claimed being hit at night it would maybe make it easier for the cop to investigate that person to see if town or if he's the arsonist...

But seeing how the cop roles being handled by adept hands... It doesn't help the case.
That I realized after the fact that it's better to leave the mystery of a doctor save or vest save or invulnerability, since it's a bastard game and you can have 2 of anything, or 2 events like doctor or vest proc happen in the same guy.

[Passarelli]

I'm of the opinion that we leave them both be. Let someone kill one of them and go from there. Let's look at new targets.

This. I'd be willing to believe Assassin is the new Cyber in this game. Also, hidden mods don't necessarily flip when the person does.

[CYBER]

Assassin just let it go.
I think we should just keep both u and scribble alive.
Scum will have a dilemma to worry about that way. Between wanting to shoot a possible insane cop to avoid being detected, Vs not wanting to kill either of u in order to not reveal additional info to town.. So let then worry about that.

Assassin having a verdict on someone else can help us identify things better tomorrow with more insight into his modifier.
Otherwise he's dead and gives info nway.

I'd say stars and the newer guys should be slightly prodded

[hippo]

I was busy today, up north, Canucks would understand.

I see people are so fixated on letting scum kill Assassin or Scribble as if it's a 100% thing they would do. If Scribs is scum, they wouldn't kill Assassin. If Scribs is not scum, they still may not kill him to keep the confusion

[What]

the confusion only lasts until he investigates another person. Bonus, if he investigates the person who happens to die, that would clarify things right quick as well.

[StarsMine]

I'd say stars and the newer guys should be slightly prodded

My take, is 12 pages is bullshit is alot to parse through.

[Zuki]

Sorry been on away on a mates birthday weekend, Alot of booze and i didnt want to come on here pissed up and wake up to the embarrassment in the morning of what i would've said.

Anyways, i kinda agree with what zambi originally said. Its probably just best to keep them both alive and see how it plays put at night. Even though assassin is an ass he is most probably telling the truth and will most probably just get taken by mafia or something at night. But if we arn't going to lynch them, them who should we?

[PA SYSTEM]

Funny how What was ready to vote the claimed cop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_DwZfyXAXI

[JigglyPuff]

So it looks like strong isn't playing or being online anymore and need a replacement for him

[Nemesis]

strong has been replace!

i summon our mystery mexican as replacement!

[Assassin]

Who is the mystery Mexican?

[Nemesis]

Who is the mystery Mexican?

wouldn't be a mystery if i told you that you fucking retard.

[Assassin]

So what we vote mystery Mexican than you fucking retard

[phil.™]

Confirmed

[hippo]

Confirmed

Yaaas :')

[JigglyPuff]

oh fuck were screwed its papa Smurf Phil xD

[CYBER]

Confirmed

The Mexican invade is a Go!
Down with Drumpf!

Hi.
Vote Phil.

[SCRIBBLE]

vote jiggly same reasons as previous game, no actual interaction with the game.

- - - Updated - - -

vote jiggly

[hippo]

I agree with daddy

Vote Jigglypuff

Sorry I didn't do the same last game D:

[JigglyPuff]

Scrib Ive been paying attention don't be a scum lol hippo do u believe that is the right thing to do?,

[SCRIBBLE]

Scrib Ive been paying attention don't be a scum lol hippo do u believe that is the right thing to do?,

The participation award goes to jigg.

[CYBER]

Scrib Ive been paying attention don't be a scum lol hippo do u believe that is the right thing to do?,


Dear lord... so many things wrong, and wrong things, in one sentence.

[JigglyPuff]

You know when ur driving and on the forums is real

[Assassin]

Don't text and drive mmmmk

[SCRIBBLE]

He has been driving for every game he is in, apparently.

[StarsMine]

Scrib Ive been paying attention don't be a scum lol hippo do u believe that is the right thing to do?,

What? You have somehow done less in this game then I have. Which is fuck all but bitch at cyber

Vote Jiggly

[I'm a zambi]

Vote JigglyPuff.

[JigglyPuff]

That's what I do when u been working 19 hrs

[StarsMine]

That's what I do when u been working 19 hrs

As have I dude, well 18, but close enough.

[JigglyPuff]

Thats why I dont normally come on when i do its when im not busy Training

[What]

so, why are we hoping aboard the jiggly train?
Just the 'ol least active strategy?

I mean Phil hasn't posted anything since he confirmed.........dat ass doe.

And no PA, its not funny, its dead serious, I'm not here to amuse you.

[hippo]

He's just going to be a hindrance to both town and the mod. Anyone who has modded him knows. It took me 3 prods to get him to answer your fav tree question

[I'm a zambi]

He's just going to be a hindrance to both town and the mod.
This is my reasoning.

Plus I want to get back at him for hammering me last game when was town. :smirk:

[phil.™]

I mean Phil hasn't posted anything since he confirmed.........dat ass doe.

Sorry. Work and personal stuff kinda took over this weekend. I have yet to contribute because I have yet to do any actions since I just joined. Everything else is accusations. My biggest concern at the moment is ass. For all the times I have played even slightly bit scummy, he will point me out or call me out. I know he claimed a cop role, and nobody has yet to CC him, but ass know's better than to call out day 1.

May we get a vote-count please?

[Nemesis]

4 Votes Jiggly
1 Vote Phil
1 Vote Ass

[phil.™]

4 Votes Jiggly
1 Vote Phil
1 Vote Ass

Thank you.

Vote Jiggly

[SCRIBBLE]

Once again, jiggly posts about how busy he is, but doesn't post anything about the game.

- - - Updated - - -

He's neither defending his usefulness, nor is he saying he will make an attempt to contribute more. Instead, he's allowing the votes to add up with no regard to whatever faction he may be on.

[Zuki]

I think everyone is just jumping aboared the jiggly train, but isnt he just easier to have as we know he wont do anything? None the less he is a hindrance. and the best cause would to get rid

Vote jiggly

[SCRIBBLE]

No, because this is a game. No participation means less information, it becomes a hindrance to everyone. No one wants a handicap. No one is forced to sign up for these games, and if you're going to be unavailable then you should post something beforehand so everyone knows to relax and wait.

[What]

Before this a hammer here I want to re-iterate, Ass is either insane or a lyncher. Personally I think people are reading too much into the PA with insane in the membrane, it was clearly just saying he was wrong, not hinting at a hidden modifier. So, he is a lyncher. That is certainly something we can isolate and deal with later, but look at everything he said, how he said the only way to find out was to lynch scrib, needless claim because he couldn't wait, etc.

None of that makes any damn sense. He is full of shit, end of story, and people will see that sooner or later.

- - - Updated - - -

and as far as the CC thing, why would a cop counter claim day 1? That would be the same shitty thing that he supposedly did.

Remember when I was the lyncher and claimed doctor day 1? Good times.

[SCRIBBLE]

If he's a lyncher, there is a good chance he will stress lynching me again tomorrow. If he is a lyncher, he might have a by day x modifier.

[What]

I am aware of that, and like I said, he can be isolated. I just wanted to get my thoughts out there before the hammer on Jigly.

[CYBER]

I don't particularly care if assassin is a lyncher or not at this point.
If he is a lyncher, his only goal would be to lynch scribble, and as long as that doesn't happen any time soon, then it presents mafia the need to kill scribble so that their win condition is met before the lyncher.

That's all assuming there is a lyncher. IF assassin is an insane cop for example, he is going to investigate someone tonight. And he will post that result tomorrow, and then we can use that to narrow down on his sanity check, while also writing if-conditionals depending on what assassin's post-mortem reflects down the road.

Eitherway, lynching either of the 2 is a bad plan for town as we gain nothing out of the lynch itself. We gain info out of assassin's death or even scribble to a lesser extent, but the lynch itself? not so much.
So let mafia worry about the threat of an insane/random cop that's splurting out opposites/gibberish, vs not killing him to keep the mystery.

@jiggly, I'll give you a last chance to give us anything that would prevent us of lynching you. Or information that we can use after that happens...
otherwise, I'm gonna go for the hammer on that one.

unvote dat ass phil

[Assassin]

Anyone have a thought on whom I should investigate tonight then? And Again no I'm not a lynched
I have been sick the last 3 days with varying degrees of fever and probably shouldn't have posted anything. That was my bad. The information i shared though is what i got considering my cats out of the bag anyways.

- - - Updated - - -

And wait my vote for scribble wasn't on that list...Nem did you forget mine or do we have a vote thief?

[BladeTwinSwords]

I will volunteer to be investigated since I have nothing left to lose in all honesty.

There could be hidden modifiers in play.

[Zuki]

Blade has a point. There could still be hidden modifier's in place, or the PA could just be trying to fuck with us. None the less i do agree with the fact he is full of shit.
And dealing with it now would be better then later.

Unvote

[Passarelli]

Vote Zuki

What can still be useful, so I'm ignoring the fact he wants to Lynch the retarded cop day 1.

Assassin is most likely insane. He will likely die at night, or give us a few more days of results before we lynch him for information.

If he is a lyncher, who gives a shit. Just don't lynch Scribble for now. Mafia can't be sure at this point either, it's all WiFoM.

[SCRIBBLE]

I would like if nemesis could find a replacement for jigg. I would much rather get back on track with the game as opposed to a policy lynch.

- - - Updated - - -

Mikey, of all people, would be a better player than Jiggs...

[BladeTwinSwords]

The fuck happened to Mikey anyways.

[Nemesis]

I would like if nemesis could find a replacement for jigg. I would much rather get back on track with the game as opposed to a policy lynch.

- - - Updated - - -

Mikey, of all people, would be a better player than Jiggs...

I will do so, if anyone wants in let me know.

[Assassin]

Nem I just want to double check that your vote count was correct with mine for scribble missing please

[hippo]

unvote dat ass phil

I think you did something wrong here

[Assassin]

Just there?

[What]

You can't announce who you plan on investigating since that allows mafia to counter and muck up the results if they have bus driver, role blocker, or the like.

[SCRIBBLE]

"investigate me"

What a joke

[CYBER]

"investigate me"

What a joke
this... blade...

[What]

"investigate me"

What a joke

I investigated your mom last night.
Results came back "foxy"

[phil.™]

Pass, is there a reason you targeted zuki?

[Assassin]

If mafia or whoever is going to roadblock me they would do it anyways. Bus driver though i get.

[hippo]

Jiggly, your input is important

[Zuki]

I was going to ask the same thing, why?

And im all for replacing jig, I dont wanna policy lynch the same as scrib.

[Assassin]

See now this has me thinking do you not want I lose a partner or are you really against the policy lynch.. Considering you all have had no problems doing it in the past for cyber

[Zuki]

So you mean the past 2 games? As they are the only games i have been in. Its just better to replace him if he isnt active then getting rid of a townie or what ever the fuck he is.
After doing it to cyber in the past 2 games or what not. I now kinda see its boring and basically pointless for the game itself. None the less still funny thought.

[Nemesis]

Jesus, I don't know what you guys did to Brett, but he doesn't wanna play... still looking.

[SCRIBBLE]

Fuck it, just lynch him.

[Assassin]

K. unvote

- - - Updated - - -

God damnit. unvote

- - - Updated - - -

vote jiggly

- - - Updated - - -

Now we will see If my vote for thiefed

[Nemesis]

Still looking for a replacement unless Jiggly gets lynched first.

[Assassin]

So yup confirmed there is a their.

- - - Updated - - -

Theif

[SCRIBBLE]

Or you are a voteless lyncher, which makes more sense.

[Assassin]

If that was the case why would I take my vote off of you

[SCRIBBLE]

An attempt to shrug suspicion, come up with something to garner support for the next day phase.

[Assassin]

Nope you'll see tomorrow when I post my investigate then if I live that long.

[SCRIBBLE]

I'm just throwing out a possibility. It's not like people come up with convoluted lies in these games...

[Assassin]

True enough.

[phil.™]

Why is jiggly not lynched yet?

[SCRIBBLE]

Ass is either voteless or there is a vote thief.

[BladeTwinSwords]

Or Jiggly has a Loved modifier

[hippo]

Why is jiggly not lynched yet?

Word. Someone make it happen

[Assassin]

Anyone else could do it

[What]

he was L-1 then sctibble unvoted right?

How about a vote count.

[Assassin]

Yeah def don't see any partnership there..

[BladeTwinSwords]

Vote Jiggly

Just to save you all some grief.

[SCRIBBLE]

Just so we are all aware, SCRIBBLE did not unvote. Super scum move trying to say I did though.

[Assassin]

I retract then. Sorry scribble

[StarsMine]

so we probz have a vote stealer somewhere.

[SCRIBBLE]

Loved or lynchproof.

[hippo]

Zuki unvoted him, not Sctibble. That's 7 on him, so if that's not a lynch, then something's affecting Assassin's vote. Pass, Cyber or Zuki, pls

[Assassin]

I don't think even Nem would keep him with lynchproof after his previous statement

[What]

I gave your mom a super scum move last night.

*zing*

[I'm a zambi]

My assumption would be a thief, considering the setup title. We likely have both a jester and a thief.

" 'There must be some kind of way out of here'
Said the joker to the thief "


There's got to be some kind of way out of here...

Sorry I haven't been on today - work was shit and I crashed when I got home.

- - - Updated - - -

Unvote.

You know, I didn't really think about it at the time but wouldn't not posting be a decent strategy for a jester? I suppose throwing out bullshit about being a cop day 1 would be too.

[hippo]

Nem said there was no jester, but then again, he plans on lying to us

- - - Updated - - -

If anything, they're mimes

[I'm a zambi]

Nem said there was no jester, but then again, he plans on lying to us
So there was literally no point in posting this.


If anything, they're mimes
Why?

[What]

if you guys would calm your tits and wait for a vote count we could see if someone lacked a vote or if jiggly is withstanding an excess of votes.

[CYBER]

on the plus side. if there is a vote stealer, mine wasn't stolen then.

so just to make damn sure this goes through, I'll even hammer it myself.

unvote phil (in case other vote didnt go through)
vote brett, i mean
vote jiggly

- - - Updated - - -

Now. For the real reason i'm up at 3am here. time to change that sig.

[I'm a zambi]

Cyber is colorblind.

Probably a rolemod, still funny.

What if Cyber is supposed to be Mikey?

I bet he is.

[Nemesis]

lynch.

jiggly the Mafia Anarchist has been lynched and banned from all future games.

night 2 starts

send your actions.

[CYBER]

and banned from all future games..

Noted. Zzzzz

- - - Updated - - -


Cyber is colorblind.



Answer when day resumes... Wat?

[SCRIBBLE]

Stop posting at night
.

[Assassin]

Zzz Nem just asking is their a time limit on night actions so I'm not checking back every few hours to see if it's started again? Zzzzz

[Nemesis]

Oh, what a Nice, contEnted wOrld.

let the baNners bE unfurled, hOld the red star proudly high in hand.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnxkfLe4G74

Day 2 Started

did everyone have fun last night? there sure were some interesting interactions.

and my god do some of you whine.

don't talk at night like retards. that includes telling people not to talk at night.

[What]

God Damn it. So based on the death of the anarchist, the claim of an arsonist, and the crap I just got last night, I'm guessing the reason no one is dying at night is due to all of the kills being on a delay.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I was doused last night. This makes me a sad man.

[What]

Anybody get anything actionable?

[Assassin]

Investigated stars. Got a guilty.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I would bet Assassin is an Insane Cop.

[What]

most likely, as I see it the pool of people to pick from to lynch is around 4-5 people. I am hoping someone has some info that might narrow it down more, but all in all, a mafia lynch day 1 should have us set up alright, though with the dosing and other stuff, there is likely to be a day or night where a good chunk of us suddenly die.

- - - Updated - - -

Phil, hippo, Zambi, zuki and Cyber are the people I would suspect represent the possible pool of scum, at least one third party killer in there perhaps two.

[Assassin]

Yeah that will be no bueno

[StarsMine]

Investigated stars. Got a guilty.

Nice

In other news, Someone sent me a nasty present.

[What]

I'm guessing at least two more 'present' givers out there, as well as a arsonist. So...... 3 baddies left, I see a pool of 5 choices, not the worst odds in the world.

[hippo]

Just because Pass and Blade got doused and Stars (And What?) got a present, doesn't mean they're not scum.

Ass could be a random cop as well

[phil.™]

I got nada, no results, no gifts, nothing.

[Assassin]

Yeah I could be

[hippo]

Ass could be a random cop as well

Or paranoid*

[SCRIBBLE]

My package from the other night is ticking. I'm dead this following night, unless someone wants to protect me. I might as well hard claim. I'm (another) cop, which is what I was trying to get assassin to understand. I investigated cyber the first night, returned guilty. Because of the assassin fiasco, I decided to investigate myself to discern whether or not I made a good guess or was insane. I returned guilty. Take as you want, lynching me would prove that I'm town, that I'm insane, and that (sadly) cyber is town. I could be random, but I doubt it. I could be naive, but I doubt that as well.

This is not a counter claim to assassin, but more info to reconsider this ridiculous setup. I believe assassin may be telling the truth, and that everyone should reconsider their night results based off the fact that their might be two insane cops in this game.

- - - Updated - - -

I suggest lynching me. You would gain info, again about cyber, without risking anyone that wouldn't die anyways.

[phil.™]

Phil, hippo, Zambi, zuki and Cyber are the people I would suspect represent the possible pool of scum, at least one third party killer in there perhaps two.

Just curious. Why are these your high suspects?

- - - Updated - - -


I suggest lynching me. You would gain info, again about cyber, without risking anyone that wouldn't die anyways.

Not just yet. Even if you are a ticking bomb from the package, let's let a protection get in place.

[SCRIBBLE]

Protection would be beneficial, but I wouldn't count on it. I'm not suggesting we rush today at all, but as it stands phil, you are in the pool of scum. I agree with what, except I believe either cyber is godfather or innocent.

[BladeTwinSwords]

So we have a bomb person.

[SCRIBBLE]

It would be almost impossible to confirm I would be protected without outing the doctor or whatever protective role.i do not think anyone should out themselves this day period unless they can confirm, without a doubt , that someone is mafia.

- - - Updated - - -

The bomb person is dead.... the anarchist is the bomb person.

vote blade

[BladeTwinSwords]

Well I didn't know that Scribble

[SCRIBBLE]

lynch.

jiggly the Mafia Anarchist has been lynched and banned from all future games.

night 2 starts

send your actions.

You didn't know that?

[BladeTwinSwords]

I didn't know an Anarchist has bombs.

[hippo]

Google is a helpful tool

I wouldn't doubt Jiggly planting Scribble with a bomb first night. But, Stars and (I think) What both claimed receiving a bomb last night. We might be dealing with at least another Anarchist (a variant I found on Mafiascum is capable of planting 2 per night)

[BladeTwinSwords]

I visited What last night so he wouldn't have a bomb.

[SCRIBBLE]

I didn't know an Anarchist has bombs.

You're not dumb enough for that to be an excuse. I don't believe you saw an unfamiliar role and didn't look it up.

[BladeTwinSwords]

I actually did not look it up

[hippo]

And Scribble, a naive cop is one who always gets an innocent investigation. Paranoid is always guilty

[BladeTwinSwords]

Or he could be insane where he gets opposite results.

[SCRIBBLE]

You didn't look it up, because you didn't need to.

[hippo]

You didn't look it up, because you didn't need to.

In addition to this, he did claim to visiting What last night, who said he received something last night

[CYBER]

Hey scribble.
I feel ya about your struggles with Assassin's role and yours.

But from what I get from all this shit, is that YOU and What are on the same team, but i'll leave it for you to trust on that, or see for yourself
Pretty sure assassin is insane/paranoid/random.
And I can 100% tell you that you have a modifier as well. And unless you randomly got 2 Scums results back to back, then you're either insane or paranoid.


Hell at this rate, everyone could have a modifier, but if we are to assume that there might be one of each : regular cop, naive cop, VS insane cop, paranoid cop VS random cop...

then the list of modifiers still undiscovered is probably down to 2 from the hard claim and softing posted so far in this game.

@What, take me out of your list of scum suspects, i'm taking you off mine too.
oh and talk things out with scribble since he hardclaimed and might die... your interaction together is crucial.

[I'm a zambi]

God Damn it. So based on the death of the anarchist, the claim of an arsonist, and the crap I just got last night, I'm guessing the reason no one is dying at night is due to all of the kills being on a delay.
Very plausible. I was afraid that might be the case when no one died Night 1.


I was doused last night. This makes me a sad man.
What I'm about to say is redundant because Passarelli already told us we have an arsonist but now it's confirmed. I don't think we have 3 mafia, more likely 2 mafia, a serial killer and a jester. I'm curious as to the other mafia member's role though - we never did confirm a vote thief.


Investigated stars. Got a guilty.
So you're paranoid, insane or random. I don't think we have two of the same cop, which means when Scribs dies we can rule out his cop. I personally don't think we have a random cop either (wishful thinking, I guess) so hopefully we'll get more information later on. This is all my speculation though, I wouldn't consider any of this factual.

My assumption on the cops debate is this:
SCRIBBLE: Paranoid
Assassin: Insane


You're not dumb enough for that to be an excuse. I don't believe you saw an unfamiliar role and didn't look it up.
This doesn't sit well with me either.

- - - Updated - - -


oh and talk things out with scribble since he hardclaimed and might die... your interaction together is crucial.
Interesting?

[CYBER]

Oh and

Vote zuki

He was still advocating to not vote for jiggly and keep him around if he "is not doing anything" while still having a "look guyz, I'm voting jiggly too just in case he died so that I don't look like I didn't vote for him out! " backup vote Still ON jiggly while advocating...


Phil's "I don't know what happening because I just got here herpaderp and why we wagoning jiggly but Ima do the same but don't hold it against me" vote is also smthn to look at alternatively.

[What]

I visited What last night so he wouldn't have a bomb.

I can confirm this, but someone else gave me a package after you left apparently.

- - - Updated - - -

We could have and insane and a paranoid cop. Scribble, if he is telling the truth, is either paranoid or insane, the same could be said for Ass. Someone needs to die for us to know for sure, but if you are gonna die tonight anyways Scrib, no reason to kill you now for info when we could just wait and see. And no Cyber, Scrib and I are not on the same team, and I have no reason to take you off of my radar. Paranoid cop is useless, as is naïve. Insane can be functional.