Map List Rehash

[ZERO]

In order to better clean up our map list we need to remove all the junk maps so we can focus on what people actually want to play. Also for each map we should consider if there should be a minimum player count requirement for it and or a maximum. This will allow us to exclude maps that should not be in the votes when there is too few or too many players. It can also allow us to create a focused group of maps for when the player count is very low.

Ideally we want to fit maps into 1 of 4 different catagories (the exact player count numbers could be changed but this is just an idea):
A) Maps good for 0-20 players
B) Maps good for any player count
C) Maps good for 15+ players
D) Maps good for 25+ players

The idea is that we have a concentration of small fun maps for players to play on when the server populartion is low and then as the player count goes up more maps are exposed to voting and over time the maps that are now too small fall out of rotation.

Obviously this is a large undertaking so I ask for your help in deciding what maps we should cut and or what catagory each map should go in. I think if all of try to look at a few maps here and there as we have time it should not take too long to review all of the maps.

We currently have 132 Escape Maps on rotation:

ze_30_Seconds__b21
ze_abandoned_project_v1_2
ze_accelerator_escape_final
ze_alien_shooter_v6_2
ze_Ancient_wrath_v1_fix2
ze_antartika_b2
ze_ashen_keep_v0_3
ze_ATIX_apocalypse_b6
ze_atix_extinction_b7
ze_atix_helicopter_fix
ze_ATIX_helicopter_uefinal
ze_avenir_storage_v1
ze_biohazard_manor_v4a_004
ze_biohazard2_rpd_v4e_004
ze_biohazard2_sewer_v4c
ze_bioshock_v5_6
ze_blackmesa_escape_final
ze_blackmesa_lambda
ze_boat_escape_jenz_v2_2fix
ze_boredom_v543656
ze_castlevania_v1_3
ze_christmas_beta3d
ze_christmas_infection_v2_3
ze_crashbandicoot_v1fix
ze_cyberderp_v1_4
ze_dark_souls_b5
ze_death_star_escape_v4_3_z
ze_destruction_of_exorath_v8
ze_doom_v1_1
ze_doom3_beta
ze_electrical_factory_v1
ze_elevator_escape_jbg_final
ze_eruption_escape_fix
ze_Escape_Stroggos_b4
ze_fapescape_v1_2
ze_ffvii_cosmo_canyon_v4fix
ze_FFVII_Mako_Reactor_v5_3
ze_FFXII_Paramina_Rift_v1_3
ze_FFXII_Westersand_v7_2
ze_FireWaLL_laboratory_part1_3
ze_Flying_World_v1_2
ze_games_v2_2a
ze_gameshow_v1_2
ze_gods_wrath_v3_8b
ze_harry_potter_v1_3
ze_hobbit_escape_a5
ze_Holmes_Escape_pf_2014c
ze_hospital_escape_v4
ze_hypernova_v2_z
ze_ice_hold_b2
ze_icecap_escape_v3
ze_icecap_escape_v5
ze_infected_sewers_v4
ze_infected_tramway_v3
ze_infiltration_final
ze_journey_v1_2
ze_jungle_escape_v1_2
ze_Jurassic_Park_Story_v1
ze_laboratoire
ze_last_man_standing_v3_1
ze_licciana_escape_v2
ze_licciana_xmas_v1
ze_lila_panic_escape_v3_1
ze_LOTR_Helms_Deep_v5
ze_LOTR_Isengard_v2_3
ze_LOTR_Minas_Tirith_v3_3
ze_LOTR_Mines_of_Moria_v6_3
ze_LOTR_Mount_Doom_v4_2
ze_minecraft_adventure_v1_2c
ze_minecraft_v1_1
ze_mirrors_edge_reborn_v4_2
ze_MotanumInc_OB
ze_mountain_escape_v5_zf
ze_naruto_v2_6e
ze_noir_b1
ze_nomercy_revisited_v5_1
ze_outlast_v1
ze_paper_escaper_v5_2_fix
ze_Paranoid_Rezurrection_v11_9
ze_parkers_pit_b8
ze_Parking_v2a
ze_Pirates_Port_Royal_v3_6
ze_Portal_Story_v3_1
ze_predator_ultimate_v3
ze_prototype_v2
ze_Raccoon_Facility_v6b
ze_random_v10_fix
ze_rebicefacility_e01_v1
ze_resonance_cascade_v3
ze_rooftop_runaway2_v4
ze_RTCW_Ominous_Rumors_v1
ze_sandstorm_v7_1
ze_saw_final
ze_serpentis_temple_b4
ze_sg1_missions_v2_1
ze_shaun_of_the_dead_b3
ze_showdown_v4_1
ze_shroomforest_v4_5
ze_shroomforest2_b6
ze_sky_athletic_v5_final
ze_skyscraper_city_v5
ze_slender_escape_b4
ze_snowcrash_escape_vfixed1
ze_somewhat_different_v1
ze_sorrento_escape_v5
ze_sorrento_escape_v5_fix
ze_sorrento_night_v3
ze_sorrento_xmas_v4
ze_stalker_ultimate_v3
ze_stargate_escape_v8
ze_sunlight_v2_0
ze_surf_danger
ze_surf_easy_or_hard_new
ze_surf_facility_v3_pre2
ze_surface_a1
ze_TeleportEscape_v3
ze_temple_v2_1
ze_TESV_Skyrim_v4fix
ze_thelostworld_redux_101j
ze_titanic_escape_v2_2
ze_tkara_v1
ze_toaster_v1_2
ze_traak_b1
ze_tyranny_v4
ze_underground_escape__final
ze_undertunnel_escape_b3a
ze_vaultofglass_beta
ze_voodoo_islands_v8_cfix2
ze_winter_v4
ze_z-m_zombie_slider_a1
ze_zombierig_ultimate_v3_1
ze_ztastic_v2

Then we have 161 Cade maps:

castle_redemption_rnk
zm_3_rooms_v3
zm_420_beachstrike_b2
zm_420_office_v5
zm_4way_tunnel_v2
zm_abandoned_base_v1
zm_abandoned_mall_v5FF
zm_an_2worlds
zm_AnotherMapbyScarFed_v1b
zm_AnotherUglyZmap_V2c
zm_Aperture_District_Panic
zm_App7e_BworldFinal
zm_athletic_factory_v3_fix
zm_bank_office_v2
zm_base_day
zm_biggun_v2fix
zm_blackmansion_v2
zm_boxhunt_desert_day
zm_bridge_run_v1
zm_bumfight_v2
zm_catalyst
zm_cbble_remix
zm_cbble_xmas_v2
zm_cell_games_b
zm_chateau_supreme
zm_church_of_faith_b1a
zm_churchofmint_fix
zm_citylife_V2
zm_clouds_v2_1
zm_cocktail_v3
zm_corps_v9
zm_csk_4corners_b2
zm_czm_dimmed_remix
zm_czm_modernist
zm_dacha_v1
zm_darkrock
zm_day_lego_v2_fix
zm_desert_fortress_v2
ZM_desprerados
zm_druglab_v2
zm_duke3d_l1_v1
zm_dust_room_new
zm_dust2015_beta3
zm_euronews_final
zm_Fail_Inc_v4
zm_Fidlers-Green_b2
zm_firewall_aztec_a1
zm_firewall_samarkand
zm_floating_rock_v5
zm_forgotten_town_ri
zm_fortress_b6
zm_fubar_towers_v5
zm_gameplace
zm_ggodds_freefall_2015
zm_ghs_combinebase
zm_ghs_construction2013_v2
zm_ghs_officepanic
zm_ghs_townsquare2015
zm_gorodok_v1
zm_holdout_mountain_fixed
zm_hotline_miami_v2_0
zm_huntingbase_ultimate_v4
zm_huntingground_v4-2
zm_ice_palace
zm_idm_freefall_v2
zm_idm_hauntedhouse_v1
zm_impossibru_LBP_v3
zm_industrial_b1
zm_inferno_classic_beta
zm_Inside_The_Fortress_final
zm_kitty_ftw_remake
ZM_Krusty_krab_a3
zm_legendary_mix
zm_lila_panic_beach
zm_lila_panic_beach_2
zm_lila_panic_isethen
zm_lila_panic_reloaded_v3a
zm_lila_panic_sethensv3
zm_lila_vacaciones_LatINs_ffix
zm_little_city_v7_roy
zm_little_italy_v3
zm_loki_horrorhood_v3
zm_london_v1_0
zm_lt_lila_atmos_beta
zm_mall_beta_b1
zm_map_grass_v4
zm_mars_horror_b4
zm_mars_wasteland_v2_z
zm_minecraft_v5
zm_mini_polygon_fwx
zm_mini_polygon_v1
zm_miniature_room_v1
zm_miniplace_beta_v2
zm_monastery_v1_1
zm_moonlight_v3
zm_multi_pyramid_x
zm_natalyas_ship_v4
zm_neko_garden_hs_v2
zm_nose_v5_fwx
zm_novum_v3
zm_ocean_monument
zm_ocx_orly_v4
zm_onadega_v3nn
zm_outer_planet
zm_panic_icy_v1
zm_paper_town_v1fix
zm_paper_town_v3
zm_penumbra_extended
zm_place_v1
zm_playtime
zm_policeprison_fixed_rnk
zm_poon_institute_b1
zm_portal
zm_power_box
zm_pulse_templeofdoom_final
zm_pulse_templeofdoom_legend
zm_radikal_stronghold_b1
zm_roy_abandoned_canals_new
zm_roy_barricade_factory
zm_roy_highway
zm_roy_old_industrial
zm_roy_the_ship
zm_ruine_v2
zm_sky_roads_final
zm_skyhigh
zm_snoopie_711_final_fixed1
zm_snoopie_teleport_fix1
zm_sonic1_v2_ultimate(zmm)
zm_space_base_z
zm_spacestationflee_v2_fix_z
zm_stab_town_panic_v4
zm_stairs_v3_6_1
zm_stranded_helper_fwx
zm_suburb_survival
zm_subway
zm_terminator-disco
zm_the_hive_b1
zm_the_lost_sanctuary_v1b
zm_TheWareHouse_V1
zm_tower_of_resistance_v4
Zm_Toxa_West_v2
zm_tx_highschoolbeta7
zm_tzuwaza_b5
zm_unpanic_v2
zm_urban_cargo_express
zm_urban_downtown_final
zm_vampire_medical_v3
zm_vc2_lila_town
zm_veskerland_v1_1
zm_walled_city_v1_1
zm_westwood_final
zm_wtfhax_v6b
zm_wwt_twinsteel_v8
zm_x_dontfall_v2_fix
zm_x_dontfall_v2_fwx
zm_z_agroprom2
zm_z_army_depots
zm_z_patch_fwx
zm_zelda_skyloft_5_5
zm_zombie_resort_fwx
zm_zombynas_fix3

[Diesel]

I feel like people like cade maps with unlimited ammo and more of the original classic cade maps. As for Escape mals they are good as they are, just depends on the player basis on the maps is all really

[$Money$]

Honestly I think we should cut that cade map list in half. From what I can tell players play ZE about 90% of the time.
Remove unless its not taking up any space. or just take them off the nomination list.
Also just keep the updated version of the ZE maps and remove older ones.

[I'm a zambi]

Honestly I think we should cut that cade map list in half.
Agreed. I tried to play through a bunch of the maps on the server while it was dead at 2-4am but the odd person kept joining in so eventually I left. I'll try again soon, but for now I'm just going to give my opinion on some (cade maps only, I'll make another post later with ZE maps).

White = I have no idea, either I don't recognize the name (very likely) or I haven't ever played the map
Red = Cut the map
Yellow = 50/50
Green = Good
Cyan = Good with some kind of player number requirement


Then we have 161 Cade maps:

castle_redemption_rnk
zm_3_rooms_v3
zm_420_beachstrike_b2
zm_420_office_v5
zm_4way_tunnel_v2 - I always get this one mixed up with another one, one is good, the other should be cut, so I'm just going to leave this white.
zm_abandoned_base_v1
zm_abandoned_mall_v5FF
zm_an_2worlds
zm_AnotherMapbyScarFed_v1b
zm_AnotherUglyZmap_V2c
zm_Aperture_District_Panic - unsure, but I believe this is one of those terrible maps
zm_App7e_BworldFinal
zm_athletic_factory_v3_fix
zm_bank_office_v2
zm_base_day
zm_biggun_v2fix
zm_blackmansion_v2
zm_boxhunt_desert_day
zm_bridge_run_v1 - recommend 5-6+, less than that and the map is uneventful
zm_bumfight_v2
zm_catalyst
zm_cbble_remix
zm_cbble_xmas_v2
zm_cell_games_b
zm_chateau_supreme
zm_church_of_faith_b1a
zm_churchofmint_fix
zm_citylife_V2 - I always get this map and another one confused, I'll check this one
zm_clouds_v2_1
zm_cocktail_v3
zm_corps_v9
zm_csk_4corners_b2
zm_czm_dimmed_remix
zm_czm_modernist
zm_dacha_v1
zm_darkrock
zm_day_lego_v2_fix
zm_desert_fortress_v2
ZM_desprerados - 6-8+, any less and the map gets boring
zm_druglab_v2
zm_duke3d_l1_v1
zm_dust_room_new
zm_dust2015_beta3
zm_euronews_final - rip euronews
zm_Fail_Inc_v4
zm_Fidlers-Green_b2
zm_firewall_aztec_a1
zm_firewall_samarkand
zm_floating_rock_v5
zm_forgotten_town_ri
zm_fortress_b6 - name sounds familiar but I don't recall
zm_fubar_towers_v5 - recommend 6+
zm_gameplace
zm_ggodds_freefall_2015
zm_ghs_combinebase
zm_ghs_construction2013_v2
zm_ghs_officepanic - pretty sure this is a terrible map?
zm_ghs_townsquare2015
zm_gorodok_v1
zm_holdout_mountain_fixed
zm_hotline_miami_v2_0 - 6+
zm_huntingbase_ultimate_v4
zm_huntingground_v4-2
zm_ice_palace
zm_idm_freefall_v2 - 50/50 on this one, it can be fun at times but it can be equally boring other times
zm_idm_hauntedhouse_v1 - unsure but I believe this is a decent map?
zm_impossibru_LBP_v3
zm_industrial_b1
zm_inferno_classic_beta
zm_Inside_The_Fortress_final
zm_kitty_ftw_remake
ZM_Krusty_krab_a3 - 6+, I don't particularly like this map but others seem to so I would say keep it
zm_legendary_mix - 6-8+, seemingly small but it has quite a few secret areas
zm_lila_panic_beach
zm_lila_panic_beach_2
zm_lila_panic_isethen
zm_lila_panic_reloaded_v3a
zm_lila_panic_sethensv3
zm_lila_vacaciones_LatINs_ffix
zm_little_city_v7_roy
zm_little_italy_v3
zm_loki_horrorhood_v3
zm_london_v1_0 - 8-10+
zm_lt_lila_atmos_beta
zm_mall_beta_b1
zm_map_grass_v4
zm_mars_horror_b4
zm_mars_wasteland_v2_z
zm_minecraft_v5 - 6+, keep (with a pinch of salt)
zm_mini_polygon_fwx
zm_mini_polygon_v1
zm_miniature_room_v1
zm_miniplace_beta_v2
zm_monastery_v1_1
zm_moonlight_v3 - I personally love this map but others seem to complain when it's left on for longer than 10 minutes, I would also say 6+ for this one
zm_multi_pyramid_x
zm_natalyas_ship_v4
zm_neko_garden_hs_v2
zm_nose_v5_fwx
zm_novum_v3
zm_ocean_monument
zm_ocx_orly_v4
zm_onadega_v3nn
zm_outer_planet
zm_panic_icy_v1
zm_paper_town_v1fix - can't distinguish between these two
zm_paper_town_v3 - see above
zm_penumbra_extended - fun map, with the right people
zm_place_v1
zm_playtime
zm_policeprison_fixed_rnk
zm_poon_institute_b1
zm_portal
zm_power_box
zm_pulse_templeofdoom_final - can't distinguish between the two
zm_pulse_templeofdoom_legend - see above
zm_radikal_stronghold_b1
zm_roy_abandoned_canals_new
zm_roy_barricade_factory
zm_roy_highway - definitely keep, I would say with a minimum of 10 people, the map is very large (12+ would be ideal)
zm_roy_old_industrial
zm_roy_the_ship - 6+
zm_ruine_v2
zm_sky_roads_final
zm_skyhigh
zm_snoopie_711_final_fixed1 - 6-8+
zm_snoopie_teleport_fix1 - 50/50 leaning towards cut
zm_sonic1_v2_ultimate(zmm)
zm_space_base_z
zm_spacestationflee_v2_fix_z
zm_stab_town_panic_v4
zm_stairs_v3_6_1
zm_stranded_helper_fwx
zm_suburb_survival
zm_subway
zm_terminator-disco
zm_the_hive_b1
zm_the_lost_sanctuary_v1b
zm_TheWareHouse_V1
zm_tower_of_resistance_v4 - 4-6+
Zm_Toxa_West_v2
zm_tx_highschoolbeta7 - 6-8+
zm_tzuwaza_b5
zm_unpanic_v2
zm_urban_cargo_express
zm_urban_downtown_final - definitely keep, also definitely a map for lots of people - 12-16+
zm_vampire_medical_v3
zm_vc2_lila_town
zm_veskerland_v1_1
zm_walled_city_v1_1
zm_westwood_final
zm_wtfhax_v6b - 8-10+
zm_wwt_twinsteel_v8 - leaning heavily towards cut
zm_x_dontfall_v2_fix
zm_x_dontfall_v2_fwx
zm_z_agroprom2
zm_z_army_depots
zm_z_patch_fwx
zm_zelda_skyloft_5_5
zm_zombie_resort_fwx
zm_zombynas_fix3

I'll finish this list later but that's what I have so far. :)

[$Money$]

The real question is, If it doesn't help anything to remove the maps from the server, is there really any point? I guess only zero knows that.
If anything just remove a shit load from nomination list. I like Cade maps but 95% of players don't lol

[I'm a zambi]

The real question is, If it doesn't help anything to remove the maps from the server, is there really any point? I guess only zero knows that.
If anything just remove a shit load from nomination list. I like Cade maps but 95% of players don't lol
Honestly, I would be happy with just the ones in green and cyan, zm doesn't really need as much diversity since it's so seldom played now.

[Diesel]

The real question is, If it doesn't help anything to remove the maps from the server, is there really any point? I guess only zero knows that.
If anything just remove a shit load from nomination list. I like Cade maps but 95% of players don't lol

I like cade maps too. But i personally like the older cade maps with unlimited ammo, its not impossible for zombies but it makes you work as a team and definitely alot more intense

[ZERO]

Also just a note for everyone, I am going to be making ZM have unlimited amo.

[$Money$]

Also just a note for everyone, I am going to be making ZM have unlimited amo.

Hopefully that will make players play more ZM maps.
Honestly Zero, whats the chances we get Preds back?

[ZERO]

If they come back it would be rolled into the ranking / loyalty system where as only the top players would be able to unlock them. So basically their return would be dependent on if we can get the server full again and what sort of game play we end up with on the server to accomplish this. The preds need to be able to fit into whatever we ultimately end up with that results in having a server with players on it again because adding back preds to an empty server is not going to help anyone. As I have stated before I want to reintroduce the preds to escape and I believe that there is a number of ways to do this without resulting in the entire server having preds all the time. Ideally, I want the top players to be able to transform into a pred for 30 seconds and then they have a 2min cool down.

[$Money$]

Sounds like a pretty good idea to me :wtg:

[B1ackOut]

I feel like people like cade maps with unlimited ammo and more of the original classic cade maps. As for Escape mals they are good as they are, just depends on the player basis on the maps is all really

This is the one thing setting this server apart from the rest, limited ammo with good settings and maps. This is the reason it had a decent chunk of regulars for so many years. The zm maps do need trimming, but we shouldn't cut the more difficult maps just because they are unplayed. I like zombie's list but think we should keep

castle_redemption_rnk
zm_citylife_V2
zm_gorodok_v1
zm_holdout_mountain_fixed
zm_lila_panic_beach
zm_playtime
zm_pulse_templeofdoom_final
zm_roy_barricade_factory
zm_blackmansion_v2
zm_csk_4corners_b2
zm_natalyas_ship_v4
zm_roy_barricade_factory

I agree with his green and blue ones to keep, but these ones are some of the best old zm maps. I have no opinion over ze but can we not keep classic zm?

[ZERO]

The issue is that if limited amo was enough to attract and keep players then we would actually have those players right now. The fact that the server is empty tells us that the current settings for a lot of things is not where it needs to be.

Honestly, I always loved limited amo. I never wanted to go to unlimited. However, I can say that over the last 2 years you have seen a significant drop in ZM play and when ZM is played it is just a disaster because all the players are expecting unlimited amo.

I currently feel that without unlimited amo ZM is basically unplayable for the fast majority of players on our server and this is why they do not want to play ZM on our server.

[ZERO]

Oh so here is what I propose for the escape maps. For unknown I am not sure what player count limit would work best or I need to play this map some to find out. I have also identified some maps for removal. Please let me know what you all think of this list.




Map
Players


ze_30_Seconds__b21
15+


ze_abandoned_project_v1_2
25+


ze_accelerator_escape_final
any


ze_alien_shooter_v6_2
unknown


ze_Ancient_wrath_v1_fix2
25+


ze_antartika_b2
25+


ze_ashen_keep_v0_3
25+


ze_ATIX_apocalypse_b6
remove


ze_atix_extinction_b7
remove


ze_atix_helicopter_fix
0-20


ze_ATIX_helicopter_uefinal
remove


ze_avenir_storage_v1
25+


ze_biohazard_manor_v4a_004
remove


ze_biohazard2_rpd_v4e_004
15+


ze_biohazard2_sewer_v4c
15+


ze_bioshock_v5_6
25+


ze_blackmesa_escape_final
any


ze_blackmesa_lambda
25+


ze_boat_escape_jenz_v2_2fix
remove


ze_boredom_v543656
15+


ze_castlevania_v1_3
15+


ze_christmas_beta3d
25+


ze_christmas_infection_v2_3
25+


ze_crashbandicoot_v1fix
15+


ze_cyberderp_v1_4
remove


ze_dark_souls_b5
15+


ze_death_star_escape_v4_3_z
any


ze_destruction_of_exorath_v8
25+


ze_doom_v1_1
15+


ze_doom3_beta
15+


ze_electrical_factory_v1
any


ze_elevator_escape_jbg_final
any


ze_eruption_escape_fix
15+


ze_Escape_Stroggos_b4
15+


ze_fapescape_v1_2
15+


ze_ffvii_cosmo_canyon_v4fix
15+


ze_FFVII_Mako_Reactor_v5_3
25+


ze_FFXII_Paramina_Rift_v1_3
25+


ze_FFXII_Westersand_v7_2
25+


ze_FireWaLL_laboratory_part1_3
15+


ze_Flying_World_v1_2
any


ze_games_v2_2a
15+


ze_gameshow_v1_2
25+


ze_gods_wrath_v3_8b
any


ze_harry_potter_v1_3
25+


ze_hobbit_escape_a5
25+


ze_Holmes_Escape_pf_2014c
15+


ze_hospital_escape_v4
unknown


ze_hypernova_v2_z
unknown


ze_ice_hold_b2
0-25


ze_icecap_escape_v3
remove


ze_icecap_escape_v5
any


ze_infected_sewers_v4
25+


ze_infected_tramway_v3
25+


ze_infiltration_final
25+


ze_journey_v1_2
25+


ze_jungle_escape_v1_2
unknown


ze_Jurassic_Park_Story_v1
any


ze_laboratoire
unknown


ze_last_man_standing_v3_1
25+


ze_licciana_escape_v2
15+


ze_licciana_xmas_v1
remove


ze_lila_panic_escape_v3_1
15+


ze_LOTR_Helms_Deep_v5
15+


ze_LOTR_Isengard_v2_3
25+


ze_LOTR_Minas_Tirith_v3_3
25+


ze_LOTR_Mines_of_Moria_v6_3
15+


ze_LOTR_Mount_Doom_v4_2
15+


ze_minecraft_adventure_v1_2c
15+


ze_minecraft_v1_1
15+


ze_mirrors_edge_reborn_v4_2
any


ze_MotanumInc_OB
15+


ze_mountain_escape_v5_zf
25+


ze_naruto_v2_6e
25+


ze_noir_b1
remove


ze_nomercy_revisited_v5_1
remove


ze_outlast_v1
unknown


ze_paper_escaper_v5_2_fix
25+


ze_Paranoid_Rezurrection_v11_9
15+


ze_parkers_pit_b8
remove


ze_Parking_v2a
any


ze_Pirates_Port_Royal_v3_6
15+


ze_Portal_Story_v3_1
15+


ze_predator_ultimate_v3
25+


ze_prototype_v2
15+


ze_Raccoon_Facility_v6b
15+


ze_random_v10_fix
15+


ze_rebicefacility_e01_v1
15+


ze_resonance_cascade_v3
15+


ze_rooftop_runaway2_v4
any


ze_RTCW_Ominous_Rumors_v1
15+


ze_sandstorm_v7_1
15+


ze_saw_final
15+


ze_serpentis_temple_b4
25+


ze_sg1_missions_v2_1
25+


ze_shaun_of_the_dead_b3
15+


ze_showdown_v4_1
any


ze_shroomforest_v4_5
any


ze_shroomforest2_b6
any


ze_sky_athletic_v5_final
any


ze_skyscraper_city_v5
25+


ze_slender_escape_b4
25+


ze_snowcrash_escape_vfixed1
25+


ze_somewhat_different_v1
unknown


ze_sorrento_escape_v5
remove


ze_sorrento_escape_v5_fix
0-20


ze_sorrento_night_v3
25+


ze_sorrento_xmas_v4
remove


ze_stalker_ultimate_v3
15+


ze_stargate_escape_v8
15+


ze_sunlight_v2_0
15+


ze_surf_danger
any


ze_surf_easy_or_hard_new
any


ze_surf_facility_v3_pre2
any


ze_surface_a1
remove


ze_TeleportEscape_v3
remove


ze_temple_v2_1
15+


ze_TESV_Skyrim_v4fix
25+


ze_thelostworld_redux_101j
15+


ze_titanic_escape_v2_2
0-20


ze_tkara_v1
25+


ze_toaster_v1_2
25+


ze_traak_b1
15+


ze_tyranny_v4
25+


ze_underground_escape__final
15+


ze_undertunnel_escape_b3a
0-20


ze_vaultofglass_beta
15+


ze_voodoo_islands_v8_cfix2
any


ze_winter_v4
remove


ze_z-m_zombie_slider_a1
remove


ze_zombierig_ultimate_v3_1
15+


ze_ztastic_v2
25+

[$Money$]

ze_licciana_xmas_v1 remove :axe::axe::axe::axe::axe::axe:

[ZERO]

Hey guys I need some input on the following maps. Please advise the player limits for these maps and or if they should be removed:
ze_alien_shooter_v6_2

ze_hospital_escape_v4

ze_hypernova_v2_z

ze_jungle_escape_v1_2

ze_laboratoire

ze_outlast_v1

ze_somewhat_different_v1

[ZERO]

Here is the list so far for the ZM maps. I have identified 41 maps for removal bringing to ZM map count to 120 which is more inline with the ze maps. We may find even more to cut but this is where I am so far. If you have player count reccomendations or maps you reccomend to remove please post.




Map
Players


castle_redemption_rnk



zm_3_rooms_v3
0-10


zm_420_beachstrike_b2
any


zm_420_office_v5



zm_4way_tunnel_v2
remove


zm_abandoned_base_v1



zm_abandoned_mall_v5FF



zm_an_2worlds



zm_AnotherMapbyScarFed_v1b



zm_AnotherUglyZmap_V2c



zm_Aperture_District_Panic
remove


zm_App7e_BworldFinal



zm_athletic_factory_v3_fix
remove


zm_bank_office_v2
remove


zm_base_day



zm_biggun_v2fix



zm_blackmansion_v2
remove


zm_boxhunt_desert_day



zm_bridge_run_v1
remove


zm_bumfight_v2
0-15


zm_catalyst



zm_cbble_remix
remove


zm_cbble_xmas_v2
remove


zm_cell_games_b
remove


zm_chateau_supreme
remove


zm_church_of_faith_b1a
remove


zm_churchofmint_fix



zm_citylife_V2



zm_clouds_v2_1



zm_cocktail_v3



zm_corps_v9



zm_csk_4corners_b2



zm_czm_dimmed_remix



zm_czm_modernist
remove


zm_dacha_v1



zm_darkrock



zm_day_lego_v2_fix



zm_desert_fortress_v2
any


ZM_desprerados



zm_druglab_v2



zm_duke3d_l1_v1



zm_dust_room_new



zm_dust2015_beta3



zm_euronews_final



zm_Fail_Inc_v4



zm_Fidlers-Green_b2



zm_firewall_aztec_a1



zm_firewall_samarkand



zm_floating_rock_v5
remove


zm_forgotten_town_ri
any


zm_fortress_b6
remove


zm_fubar_towers_v5



zm_gameplace



zm_ggodds_freefall_2015



zm_ghs_combinebase



zm_ghs_construction2013_v2



zm_ghs_officepanic



zm_ghs_townsquare2015



zm_gorodok_v1



zm_holdout_mountain_fixed
any


zm_hotline_miami_v2_0
remove


zm_huntingbase_ultimate_v4
remove


zm_huntingground_v4-2



zm_ice_palace



zm_idm_freefall_v2



zm_idm_hauntedhouse_v1



zm_impossibru_LBP_v3



zm_industrial_b1
remove


zm_inferno_classic_beta



zm_Inside_The_Fortress_final
remove


zm_kitty_ftw_remake



ZM_Krusty_krab_a3
any


zm_legendary_mix



zm_lila_panic_beach
remove


zm_lila_panic_beach_2
0-15


zm_lila_panic_isethen
remove


zm_lila_panic_reloaded_v3a
remove


zm_lila_panic_sethensv3
remove


zm_lila_vacaciones_LatINs_ffix



zm_little_city_v7_roy



zm_little_italy_v3
remove


zm_loki_horrorhood_v3
remove


zm_london_v1_0



zm_lt_lila_atmos_beta
remove


zm_mall_beta_b1



zm_map_grass_v4



zm_mars_horror_b4



zm_mars_wasteland_v2_z
remove


zm_minecraft_v5



zm_mini_polygon_fwx



zm_mini_polygon_v1
remove


zm_miniature_room_v1



zm_miniplace_beta_v2



zm_monastery_v1_1



zm_moonlight_v3



zm_multi_pyramid_x



zm_natalyas_ship_v4



zm_neko_garden_hs_v2



zm_nose_v5_fwx



zm_novum_v3



zm_ocean_monument



zm_ocx_orly_v4
0-10


zm_onadega_v3nn
remove


zm_outer_planet



zm_panic_icy_v1



zm_paper_town_v1fix
remove


zm_paper_town_v3



zm_penumbra_extended



zm_place_v1



zm_playtime



zm_policeprison_fixed_rnk



zm_poon_institute_b1



zm_portal



zm_power_box



zm_pulse_templeofdoom_final
remove


zm_pulse_templeofdoom_legend



zm_radikal_stronghold_b1



zm_roy_abandoned_canals_new



zm_roy_barricade_factory



zm_roy_highway



zm_roy_old_industrial



zm_roy_the_ship



zm_ruine_v2



zm_sky_roads_final



zm_skyhigh



zm_snoopie_711_final_fixed1



zm_snoopie_teleport_fix1
remove


zm_sonic1_v2_ultimate(zmm)



zm_space_base_z



zm_spacestationflee_v2_fix_z
remove


zm_stab_town_panic_v4



zm_stairs_v3_6_1
remove


zm_stranded_helper_fwx



zm_suburb_survival



zm_subway
remove


zm_terminator-disco



zm_the_hive_b1
remove


zm_the_lost_sanctuary_v1b



zm_TheWareHouse_V1



zm_tower_of_resistance_v4



Zm_Toxa_West_v2
remove


zm_tx_highschoolbeta7
any


zm_tzuwaza_b5



zm_unpanic_v2
remove


zm_urban_cargo_express



zm_urban_downtown_final



zm_vampire_medical_v3
remove


zm_vc2_lila_town
remove


zm_veskerland_v1_1



zm_walled_city_v1_1



zm_westwood_final
remove


zm_wtfhax_v6b



zm_wwt_twinsteel_v8
remove


zm_x_dontfall_v2_fix



zm_x_dontfall_v2_fwx



zm_z_agroprom2



zm_z_army_depots



zm_z_patch_fwx



zm_zelda_skyloft_5_5



zm_zombie_resort_fwx



zm_zombynas_fix3

[$Money$]

Remove all these maps, Cant tell ya the last time ive played them.

zm_an_2worlds
zm_AnotherMapbyScarFed_v1b
zm_AnotherUglyZmap_V2c
zm_druglab_v2
zm_duke3d_l1_v1
zm_dust_room_new
zm_dust2015_beta3
zm_Fail_Inc_v4
zm_Fidlers-Green_b2
zm_firewall_aztec_a1
zm_firewall_samarkand
zm_gameplace
zm_miniplace_beta_v2
zm_monastery_v1_1
zm_moonlight_v3
zm_multi_pyramid_x
zm_natalyas_ship_v4
zm_nose_v5_fwx
zm_novum_v3
zm_ocean_monument
zm_ggodds_freefall_2015
zm_ghs_combinebase
zm_ghs_construction2013_v2
zm_ghs_officepanic
zm_ghs_townsquare2015
zm_pulse_templeofdoom_legend
zm_radikal_stronghold_b1
zm_roy_abandoned_canals_new
zm_roy_barricade_factory
zm_z_agroprom2
zm_z_army_depots
zm_z_patch_fwx
zm_zelda_skyloft_5_5
zm_zombie_resort_fwx
zm_zombynas_fix3

[ZERO]

Ok I just finished making the new map list with the player limits. Now I got to get the actual related plugins on the server and swap out to the new map voting system. Expect to see it in place this week. Once this s complete and live on the server I am going to start programing the bot mod but I am not sure if I will be able to finish it before Christmas.

[ZERO]

The new voting system is in place, the new map lists are live.

[$Money$]

I noticed whenever we try Ice escape is crashes.

[$Money$]

also I noticed a lot of maps missing and crashing during play.

[ZERO]

I think some maps crash when it tries to load bots onto them. I need to get a list of these maps so I can manually generate the .nav files for them. I will hopefully get a chance to have the server cycle though each map this week while I am on the server so I can see if it will generate the .nav files.

[$Money$]

I see the problem with bots on ZE maps, They will only run so far and stop. Then when they spawn to a further point they don't move.
ZM maps, they work great until you go up a ladder or on top of something.
I personally like them, just wish we had more maps to play on :icon_mrgreen:

[ZERO]

Yea for them to work on ZE maps correctly we need to manually create the .nav files for the escape maps. This can be done by running the map on your computer and then running the nav mesh generation commands and creating the walkable areas. You got to connect them together but the good thing for ZE is that you only need to connect them 1 way because the bots only need to keep advancing from one area to the next.

[ZERO]

Oh and fyi the normal rtv map list will only show maps that the current player count unlocks for. There is more maps than what you see it is just you need more players to unlock them.

[ZERO]

You can read about nav file data and bot ai here: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Navigation_Meshes

[$Money$]

Alright, Ive been going through the Map command list or whatever its called in the admin list. Now all the maps are working well. :wtg:
I do kinda miss the jet packs tho lol

[ZERO]

I have created a nav mesh for ze_icecap_escape_v5 now. So the map should work now.

[ZERO]

Updated the one for ze_death_star_escape_v4_3_z

[ZERO]

I can verify that all escap maps should be able to at least work now with bots (for the 25 maps that have them). Now we still need to edit a lot of the nav files to get the bots to work better and actualy follow the entire map.

[$Money$]

Roger that :wtg::wtg:

[gunyalizop]

I tried to play through a bunch of the maps on the server while it was dead at 2-4am but the odd person kept joining in so eventually I left. techzpod.com (https://techzpod.com/) mobdro app (https://get-mobdrovip.com)