Skins on GunGame are distracting

[TheMicah]

Hey All,

I've expressed this a couple of times to some clan, but c'mon guys... have some common sense with the skins. When you have a T skin that looks like a CT (black), and vice versus, it's virtually impossible to tell the difference (especially on darker maps and aiming across a map in general).

I understand the skins are 'cool' and you want to make the servers contain better reasons and incentives for a person to pay for admin, but please incorporate skins that look less like the opposing team the player is on.

Thanks!

[Amensia]

I wrote something on this as well. I think the skins were going to get changed up a bit. The dark one on T needs to go for sure. I'm tired of hearing the complaints. lol

[TheMicah]

For sure. Yeah, it's not even a complaint.. it's, quite simply, common sense. I'm all for skins.... don't care at all about them by any means... but when you incorporate skins which look like the opposing team, that person will constantly get FF and it makes team mates not want to play on the server any more.

Anywho... those are my thoughts. I realize opinions just don't matter for the pawns like me out there, but yeah.... why someone would do this to a server is beyond me. :)

[Amensia]

Yeah, I quit using a couple of them mainly because of team attacks, But the bright pink ones and stuff i think are cool and give the admins a disadvantage honestly because you stick out more then anything.

[Kasp3r]

lol if u pay attention to the models u wont have that problem. all it is, is different shading. ct model still look like cts and the t models still look like the ts. only difference is ppl are using it as an excuse to the excessive team attacking. i've played with the the new skins and with others using them while i wasn't, yeah there was a few times were i tk'd but it wasn't to the point where i wanted them gone. Ppl just run around and shoot the first person they see and if it isn't a skin they remember from default they will continue to shoot till they notice the text about them team attacking in chat, or notice the person is on the same team while the cursor is above them, or just kill them and say sorry. blaming the skins because u dont want to take the time to pay attention to what ur aiming at isn't the fault of the admin wearing the skin. yes one or two do offer a slightly unfair advantage since it's easily mistakable but again if u are paying attention and not just running and gunning then you wont team attack as often.

[The Fox]

Honestly I semi disagree with you kasper, for tose of us who are colorblind the new skins change up the looks of the models as well other then the face, the suit ones are fine but some of them look very similar to opposing teams, with those ones I always end up tk'ing (not excessively in my opinion) when I see them because you don't have the time to just look and figure it out, and other times I see someone who I think is a teammate but is an enemy, I don't shoot for a bit until I realize ooo enemy team and yea, it sucks. should have a wolf model tho

[firstblood]

should have a wolf model tho

really? not a fox?

[Kasp3r]

really? not a fox?

Wolves are better than foxes, almost as much as honey badgers. Even fox knows that :p

[rawrr]

I use the T side leet custom skin that has the white jacket, the only other skin in the server that is white is the default arctic skin on T side and people still shoot at me. That's just them being stupid and blaming their inability to pay attention on something that isn't even a factor. Even when i dont use a skin i still get team attacked. Its just easier to blame the new skin than it is to say oh sorry i fucked up

[$Money$]

Cts have helmets and T doesn't, Are you aiming for the feet?

[Kasp3r]

Cts have helmets and T doesn't, Are you aiming for the feet?

Some actually do :/

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I use the T side leet custom skin that has the white jacket, the only other skin in the server that is white is the default arctic skin on T side and people still shoot at me. That's just them being stupid and blaming their inability to pay attention on something that isn't even a factor. Even when i dont use a skin i still get team attacked. Its just easier to blame the new skin than it is to say oh sorry i fucked up

Exactly ^^

[hippo]

I just wanna say that you're all beautiful regardless of your skin

[ZERO]

I know the one for T is often confused and I plan to remove that one. But what one on the CT is causing an issue?

[rawrr]

None, people are just stupid

[Kasp3r]

I know the one for T is often confused and I plan to remove that one. But what one on the CT is causing an issue?

Get rid of this (https://dl.groseb.net/Skins/S-LoW/Fun/hot%20ass%20zombie%20gay%20edition.jpg) skin, it's too distracting! Can never remember whether I'm running towards or away from it :c

[$Money$]

I know the one for T is often confused and I plan to remove that one. But what one on the CT is causing an issue?

Zero, just get rid of all skins and every map besides Blue Arena, Sex, and Deagle. People don't like anything new to improve the server :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::icon_mrgreen::wtg:

[rawrr]

but they all complain that we play the same maps, and yet they keep voting for them :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

[The Fox]

The only one I don't like is the skin zero is already removing I love the leet skin helps me pick out admins :3 I think we should add hats and decorations along with a point system so people can get trails, hats, glasses, and skins to buy then have special skins for admins

[Diesel]

Zero, just get rid of all skins and every map besides Blue Arena, Sex, and Deagle. People don't like anything new to improve the server :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::icon_mrgreen::wtg:

Lets keep blue arena and make all the skins blue. Thats the best case scenario

[ZERO]

I am going to be adding custom weapon skins for admins as well. The last few weeks at work have been crazy busy upgrading all the servers. I will likely be releasing updates next month when I have time to work on them.

[$Money$]

I am going to be adding custom weapon skins for admins as well. The last few weeks at work have been crazy busy upgrading all the servers. I will likely be releasing updates next month when I have time to work on them.

Don't do it, changing the gun skin will make me miss lol :lmao::lmao:

[Kasp3r]

I am going to be adding custom weapon skins for admins as well. The last few weeks at work have been crazy busy upgrading all the servers. I will likely be releasing updates next month when I have time to work on them.

Don't do it, if you do people will bitch about there being no reg and excessive team killing will flood the server. Their excuse will be because of the new skins and overload of plugins and add-on to the server.

[The Fox]

I think we should add in a point system where every kill you get points and you also get points for time spent on the server, add in a store for regulars to purchase custom skins, gun skins, things like hats and skins, then have the coolest ones reserved for admins to incentivize people to buy.

[TheMicah]

I know the one for T is often confused and I plan to remove that one. But what one on the CT is causing an issue?

Hey Zero, thanks for all the work you do on the servers / enhance gameplay. As a guy who works in the gaming industry, I appreciate that your servers are not clouded with junk (even on older games like CS:S). I enjoy playing on the GG server.

My comments with the distracting skin was the T skin you mentioned you're getting rid of (black where, from further away, appears as a CT). The only reason I say that is because I have, more than enough times, accidentally shot the admin who was wearing that skin. On a percentage basis, I would say that it happens more often than an accidental TK of a team mate with a standard skin. That was my main skin issue really.

I guess rawr is right though... I could just very well be stupid. But nonetheless, I thought it was something worth bringing up.

Thanks for addressing it. Much appreciated!

[ElkCloner]

There is an easy solution to this. Admins just change a single server variable

from:
sv_allowminmodels 0
to:
sv_allowminmodels 1

This allows players to use cl_minmodels 1 to force their client to use a single model for each team. Win-win. Admins still get their custom skins for most players to see. Players who know what they're doing (they know how to recognize admins anyways) can disable the custom skins if they prefer.

For the record, I strongly dislike custom skins. Kasp3r and rawrr are right, you can tell teams apart by the models. But when I play this game I just want to sit back and relax and shoot at models I instinctively recognize. Hesitating even an instant to decide what team a new (to me) model is on can make or break a round.

[The Fox]

Honestly I like elkcloner's fix to this, seems like a good solution to me.

[hippo]

Elky is #1. RT to that last paragraph

[$Money$]

Easy fix, Just kill everyone :icon_mrgreen:

[rawrr]

Don't do it, changing the gun skin will make me miss lol :lmao::lmao:

More than usual? :smirk:

[ZERO]

There is an easy solution to this. Admins just change a single server variable

from:
sv_allowminmodels 0
to:
sv_allowminmodels 1

This allows players to use cl_minmodels 1 to force their client to use a single model for each team. Win-win. Admins still get their custom skins for most players to see. Players who know what they're doing (they know how to recognize admins anyways) can disable the custom skins if they prefer.

For the record, I strongly dislike custom skins. Kasp3r and rawrr are right, you can tell teams apart by the models. But when I play this game I just want to sit back and relax and shoot at models I instinctively recognize. Hesitating even an instant to decide what team a new (to me) model is on can make or break a round.

Oh, nice suggestion. sv_allowminmodels 1 will enable on next restart.

[ElkCloner]

Oh, nice suggestion. sv_allowminmodels 1 will enable on next restart.

Thanks, Zero! I really appreciate this change. I started playing this server regularly last summer and it's been great.

I think the combination of this along with removing individual skins that prove to be too confusing will solve most skin-related complaints. A few players will always complain of course. But in my experience on other servers, players who really dislike custom skins seem to do okay learning to use "cl_minmodels 1" in console.