View Full Version : Problems in america?!
ShadowSlaveDog
08-09-2009, 12:24 AM
wut problems in america do u hate the most??
XxMastagunzxX
08-09-2009, 12:25 AM
Emo people :plzdie: :stupid: :assault:
Christmas
08-09-2009, 12:43 AM
You know what I hate?
When people talk about how much America "sucks".
And gigantic signatures.
walterbrunswick
08-09-2009, 12:49 AM
You know what I hate?
When people talk about how much America "sucks".
And gigantic signatures.
We can't fix problems until we identify and acknowledge problems.
Right?
Christmas
08-09-2009, 12:51 AM
We can't fix problems until we identify and acknowledge problems.
Right?
Because we know America has the only problems, right?
walterbrunswick
08-09-2009, 12:56 AM
Because we know America has the only problems, right?
Stop diverting the blame to others. Fix yourself first before you start looking at others.
Nemesis
08-09-2009, 01:35 AM
Stop diverting the blame to others. Fix yourself first before you start looking at others.
Walter, i'm not sure why, but i'm really starting to hate you, with the passion of a serial killer...
inthebutt
08-09-2009, 01:39 AM
Stop diverting the blame to others. Fix yourself first before you start looking at others.
how about you walter aka pedobear stay off this thread, your not even american and I have no idea why your even in here trying to solve america's problems, how about you start a thread titled "what problems does canada have and how should we fix them".
worry about your own country and leave america to us americans.
oh and also we are fixing our problems, look at how great obama is doing so far. plus this forum is about gaming, not politics. shadowdog your gonna start a riot this way lol.
Christmas
08-09-2009, 02:11 AM
Stop diverting the blame to others. Fix yourself first before you start looking at others.
Walter, I'm not diverting the blame to anyone at all. I don't even know where you are getting that idea from.
I'm saying stop with the America bashing. Honestly.
Nemesis
08-09-2009, 02:20 AM
how about you walter aka pedobear stay off this thread, your not even american and I have no idea why your even in here trying to solve america's problems, how about you start a thread titled "what problems does canada have and how should we fix them".
worry about your own country and leave america to us americans.
oh and also we are fixing our problems, look at how great obama is doing so far. plus this forum is about gaming, not politics. shadowdog your gonna start a riot this way lol.
i know they preach isolationism in most areas (school and such) but the vast amount of poor choices made in the US do have an effect on other countries, i know, shocking. most of the batshit insane policies made between you and other nations (NAFTA) are just fucking jokes. even when the entire world is telling you that you're wrong you go on with them anyways, so yes, walter does have a say, now that doesn't give him the right to continue to be an utter douche about everything as he usually is. grow up and stop with the personal attacks, have a grown up discussion for once Mr. Pb-ear.
ShadowSlaveDog
08-09-2009, 02:22 AM
You know what I hate?
When people talk about how much America "sucks".
And gigantic signatures.
i didnt say america sucks im just saying what problems in it u dont like. everything in the world has problems
and yes it it pretty big :icon_mrgreen: lol
ShadowSlaveDog
08-09-2009, 02:24 AM
how about you walter aka pedobear stay off this thread, your not even american and I have no idea why your even in here trying to solve america's problems, how about you start a thread titled "what problems does canada have and how should we fix them".
worry about your own country and leave america to us americans.
oh and also we are fixing our problems, look at how great obama is doing so far. plus this forum is about gaming, not politics. shadowdog your gonna start a riot this way lol.
ya im starting to regret the fact i posted it lol
Christmas
08-09-2009, 02:25 AM
i know they preach isolationism in most areas (school and such) but the vast amount of poor choices made in the US do have an effect on other countries, i know, shocking. most of the batshit insane policies made between you and other nations (NAFTA) are just fucking jokes. even when the entire world is telling you that you're wrong you go on with them anyways, so yes, walter does have a say, now that doesn't give him the right to continue to be an utter douche about everything as he usually is. grow up and stop with the personal attacks, have a grown up discussion for once Mr. Pb-ear.
You're off to a great start.
And since neither you or Walter can vote, what kind of say do you have exactly?
I love America, its not perfect no nothing ever is.
Kavinsky
08-09-2009, 08:53 AM
Let me put it this way, our only major problem is that the goverment is becoming downright socialist with all of its new hand holding policies and over controling laws on everything, not just firearms.
as far as the international stuff is concerned thats mostly someone elses view of America and therefore there entitled to it, but I dont give a fuck about it.
Terrorism wise America should only keep there eyes on Iran, North Korea or Russia (because of there past, and how many people still think America's out to get them) basically keep an eye on anyone with nukes and an unstable leader or a history of threats towards the US.
and by the way I can and have voted in the past election so I am entitled to my opinion.
mastercheff
08-09-2009, 08:57 AM
1 word were fat :O
It is not as much socialist as fascist and one of the biggest problems is that people do not even know what fascism really is. With people thinking that fascism is nothing more than killing jews (which it has nothing to do with) they are totally unaware of the real qualities of a fascist state or the types of policies and popularity they have.
Nemesis
08-09-2009, 02:11 PM
It is not as much socialist as fascist and one of the biggest problems is that people do not even know what fascism really is. With people thinking that fascism is nothing more than killing jews (which it has nothing to do with) they are totally unaware of the real qualities of a fascist state or the types of policies and popularity they have.
i was going to say something along those lines before i read your post. many parts of american politics are fascist, hell i'm sure many more than there are true democratic pieces.
Christmas
08-09-2009, 02:18 PM
It is not as much socialist as fascist and one of the biggest problems is that people do not even know what fascism really is. With people thinking that fascism is nothing more than killing jews (which it has nothing to do with) they are totally unaware of the real qualities of a fascist state or the types of policies and popularity they have.
You think that people think that fascism is killing of jews?
That is bogus.
What parts of the US are fascist in your opinion?
&&toasties
08-09-2009, 02:18 PM
I think america needs to fix it's own economic issues before we try to save the world.
And I agree with inthebutt, Obama is doing an amazing job.
We'll soon be back on our feet, and capable of helping, truly helping, other countries.
&&toasties
08-09-2009, 02:19 PM
You think that people think that fascism is killing of jews?
That is bogus.
What parts of the US are fascist in your opinion?
He doesn't think that, he stated that it was wrong for most people to think that.
Jeimuzu
08-09-2009, 03:00 PM
The idiots are multiplying. There should be a law that doesn't allow idiots to breed.
Christmas
08-09-2009, 03:09 PM
The idiots are multiplying. There should be a law that doesn't allow idiots to breed.
Socrates had a perfect system for that.
Except only the athletes could breed, not the intelligent ones.
Nemesis
08-09-2009, 04:09 PM
The idiots are multiplying. There should be a law that doesn't allow idiots to breed.
they used to have a system like that in Alberta, no joke. i believe it was in the 70's or 80's where they'd make ppl take an IQ test and if they didn't pass they were sterilized.
silent
08-09-2009, 07:05 PM
/facepalm i am not even going to bother responding to this thread...
ImGonnaGetCha
08-09-2009, 07:31 PM
wut problems in america do u hate the most??
LoL!!! Well All I Have To Say Is That The Smart Ones That Live Here In America, Are The Ones Moving Out Of America... And I'm One Of Those Smart Ones :icon_mrgreen:
If You're Thinking Of Moving To America, I Suggest That You Don't!!! But If You Must, Then Texas Would Be The Best Place To Go To!!! Much More Safer There Then Anywhere Else Here In America With Everything Going On In The Econmy And All!!! I Could Explain Why, But I'd Be Here Forever!!!! Take Care, I Hope You Make The Right Decision
Christmas
08-09-2009, 07:35 PM
LoL!!! Well All I Have To Say Is That The Smart Ones That Live Here In America, Are The Ones Moving Out Of America... And I'm One Of Those Smart Ones :icon_mrgreen:
Intelligence isn't based on how much you yell on the forums, getcha.
:icon_mrgreen:
DJ_MikeyRevile
08-09-2009, 07:37 PM
american problems american problems *brainstorms*
I KNOW
america is more bad ass then any other country and that is a problem because living in a bas country like this boosts peoples egos resulting in stupid petty arguments about canada epicly failing compared to the states
another problem
WEED ISNT LEGAL
mastercheff
08-09-2009, 07:37 PM
my parents are Asian you don't want to hear what they said about obama ='(
weeman2412
08-09-2009, 07:45 PM
my parents are Asian you don't want to hear what they said about obama ='(
dam straight.. not to mention so many freakin racist things.. ( that are fucken hilarious )...
I love living in America though.. If you live right.. you will always feel 100% free.. Only other place that I would even consider living in is City(location) Canada.. (fuck the country side) HongKong.. LOL Any other asian countries is just purely bad business.. and ungodly labor.. Maybe Japan maybe.....
You would have to send me to hell.. and back before I would ever go and live in africa/south America <<< seriously I wonder why people from those 2 continents want to flee from those 2 continents.. (sarcasm)..
drug lords, gangs, fear.. corruption.. exist in America but at a minimal level.. unlike the 2 stated continents..
DJ_MikeyRevile
08-09-2009, 07:47 PM
I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW ANOTHER PROBLEM
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obama
I think america needs to fix it's own economic issues before we try to save the world.
And I agree with inthebutt, Obama is doing an amazing job.
We'll soon be back on our feet, and capable of helping, truly helping, other countries.
And I agree; the policies of Hitler, Mussolini, FDR, and Wilson all have helped the world so much over the last 100 years. What ever would freedom and liberty do without populist politics to keep it alive via stabbing it in the back.
Christmas
08-09-2009, 10:13 PM
And I agree; the policies of Hitler, Mussolini, FDR, and Wilson all have helped the world so much over the last 100 years. What ever would freedom and liberty do without populist politics to keep it alive via stabbing it in the back.
You aren't seriously comparing Obama to Hitler and Mussolini.
I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW ANOTHER PROBLEM
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obama
Because hes black ?
You aren't seriously comparing Obama to Hitler and Mussolini.
Yeah what the fuck ?
Bush was more of a Hitler to this country than Obama ever will be, EVER.
Bush fucked up this country so bad it isn't even funny.
Christmas
08-09-2009, 10:19 PM
Because hes black ?
Yeah what the fuck ?
Bush was more of a Hitler to this country than Obama ever will be, EVER.
Bush fucked up this country so bad it isn't even funny.
Bush had 9/11 and the war on terrorism, a huge factor in the economy. Also the auto industry.
He didn't commit mass genocide either.
Neither should be compared. No way.
silent
08-10-2009, 04:49 AM
And I agree; the policies of Hitler, Mussolini, FDR, and Wilson all have helped the world so much over the last 100 years. What ever would freedom and liberty do without populist politics to keep it alive via stabbing it in the back.
Gah putting hilter, mussolini in the same category as FDR? and then comparing them to Obama... I understand people having issues with progressives but FDR nor Obama was the first to bring up health care reform. Theodore Roosevelt tried to do a "socialized" health care program almost 80 years ago. The fact of matter is the only time to pass progressive bills is to do it during a crisis. This was why FDR was able to pass many bills that have raised standards of living of US citizens for years. While they do not help the current issue they help fix issues that will occur later on. No economist thinks that we should not do reform, the issue is every one has a viewpoint on what should be done. We have been holding this off for 80 years, our health care is rated 37th in the world yet we pay the post. Our health currently takes up 15.3% of our GDP and is supposed to increase to 19.5 in 2017. If you compare this to the country with the highest rated health care which is France they only spend 11.2% of there GDP. And if you think that the rating is biased the average life expectancy is 80.87 in France and 78.06 in the US.
As for people from other country's complaining about the US, please shut up. The claim that we should fix ourselves before we fix others is laughable. The U.S. could not even pass a stimulus bill without interference from every country. The point of US tax payer money paying for a stimulus package is to benefit the U.S. people. Canada went batshit when the stimulus package was going to state that they had to buy steel from U.S manufacturers only. Don't blame the U.S because we went through an economic downturn and won't buy crap from your country.
The U.S. has problems like every other country, but because we are the largest economy every one feels they can insult and blast our country. If you don't like the U.S. be like getcha at gtfo. If you don't live in the U.S. and we are not bombing you then your opinion is useless.
XxMastagunzxX
08-10-2009, 08:07 AM
Because hes black ?
Yeah what the fuck ?
Bush was more of a Hitler to this country than Obama ever will be, EVER.
Bush fucked up this country so bad it isn't even funny.
This is one of the cases where somebody believes everything their parents told them or they heard on the news. Why don't you explain how bush fucked up this country kk.
You aren't seriously comparing Obama to Hitler and Mussolini.
Sorry edited the list to make the political links more clear:
And I agree; the policies of Bush, Hitler, Mussolini, FDR, and Wilson all have helped the world so much over the last 100 years. What ever would freedom and liberty do without populist politics to keep it alive via stabbing it in the back.
As far as the relations to genocide, just because nations may have similar political ideology does not mean they support genocide. I know that everyone seems to be comfortable calling things socialist without having others say oh so your saying we support genocide because the USSR killed millions of there own people. There is a difference between political ideology and the way that a given nation uses such policies.
So although all those in the list above have supported fascist policies not all of them support genocide. Such a conclusion would be just as stupid to assume that any mainstream liberal supports genocide because they believe in some of the same policies that the USSR implemented. :smirk:
Kavinsky
08-10-2009, 02:28 PM
Politicans are the key problem, the just refuse to stick to the constitutions principles and instead follow there own agenda, I am after all a strict anti federalist.
The only reason I voted for Mccain was because he wouldn't make the gun laws worse, but thankfully obamas been too tied down with the economy to ban standard capacity mags or regular semi auto rifles yet, however apparently there trying to reclassify a bunch of regular edc knives as switchblades right now http://yourcornerstore.com/index.php?main_page=notice
DJ_MikeyRevile
08-10-2009, 08:53 PM
frankly i think putting to much thought into a built opinion about whom is betrter for the job or what is best for our country will blow up your mind
theres a saying im sure you have all heard and that is, "keep is simple stupid"
so
as simple as i can put it, NO body is PERFEcT for office because EVERYONE who runs for ofice has there own idea of what can make everything better, well one road ggoes right but leaves out the left which in each direction can be found a soultion to a problem if you understand what im saying, for ex. one president would want to issue a whole new currency, which would be great BUT the backdraw for that would be where and how do we get rid and find the funding to eliminate the old?
and another pres would think the oppsite so no matter WHAT desicon any president makes theres always oing to be a negitve "problem" as a side effect
THAT is why peopele compare our presidents to peoiple like hitler because yea hitler was a mass murderer but at the same time, he was a genius and had NO problems
democracy is a great form of gov. BUT people take advatage of it, a communist dictatorship would be perfect but only with a perfect leader who wouldnt subcome to money power and greed and kept a good head on his shoulders
inthebutt
08-10-2009, 09:36 PM
frankly i think putting to much thought into a built opinion about whom is betrter for the job or what is best for our country will blow up your mind
theres a saying im sure you have all heard and that is, "keep is simple stupid"
so
as simple as i can put it, NO body is PERFEcT for office because EVERYONE who runs for ofice has there own idea of what can make everything better, well one road ggoes right but leaves out the left which in each direction can be found a soultion to a problem if you understand what im saying, for ex. one president would want to issue a whole new currency, which would be great BUT the backdraw for that would be where and how do we get rid and find the funding to eliminate the old?
and another pres would think the oppsite so no matter WHAT desicon any president makes theres always oing to be a negitve "problem" as a side effect
THAT is why peopele compare our presidents to peoiple like hitler because yea hitler was a mass murderer but at the same time, he was a genius and had NO problems
democracy is a great form of gov. BUT people take advatage of it, a communist dictatorship would be perfect but only with a perfect leader who wouldnt subcome to money power and greed and kept a good head on his shoulders
actually it doesn't matter how good of a leader you are, cause that leader will die and someone else will take over with a different set of policies and agenda.
perfect example is look at china's history, there have been many nations to be the superpower in that one nation alone, but yet no one has stayed the superpower forever.
just like the US right now, we are a huge superpower, but eventually someone else will take that spot over. its a cycle.
DJ_MikeyRevile
08-10-2009, 09:43 PM
see so you understand how problems in america wont ever go away, when one problem has been vanquished another will pop up as a result for ridding a problem before it
there will never be a "perfect" goverment because they all have flaws, and world peace is just a dream, even if every nation where to be on the same peace treaty terms there would still be fighting and war, civil for ex, and rebel anarchist ggroups ex.
This is one of the cases where somebody believes everything their parents told them or they heard on the news. Why don't you explain how bush fucked up this country kk.
Economy ?
Poor response to 9/11 ?
Christmas
08-10-2009, 11:06 PM
Economy ?
Poor response to 9/11 ?
The US went to Afghanistan and dominated there.
And considering that there hasn't been a single military or terrorist attack on US soil since then, I'd say that we are doing a pretty good job.
THE HOLY SH**T!
08-11-2009, 01:13 AM
actually it doesn't matter how good of a leader you are, cause that leader will die and someone else will take over with a different set of policies and agenda.
perfect example is look at china's history, there have been many nations to be the superpower in that one nation alone, but yet no one has stayed the superpower forever.
just like the US right now, we are a huge superpower, but eventually someone else will take that spot over. its a cycle.
When the chinese take over the world... and reign that all asians are the master race. Whites and blacks insuperior, can i be your slave? :icon_mrgreen:
silent
08-11-2009, 01:57 AM
The US went to Afghanistan and dominated there.
And considering that there hasn't been a single military or terrorist attack on US soil since then, I'd say that we are doing a pretty good job.
Ya... we are doing so great there we are increasing troops there and our generals are saying the country is close to being on the brink of chaos. We went to war against another country which had nothing to do with the attacks and in the process spent hundreds of billions going to war and rebuilding the shit we destroyed. As for there not being a terror attack as a sign he did a good job how often has there ever been terror attacks in the US? The only major ones i can remember were the first attack on the world trade centers, the USS Cole, and Oklahoma city bombing. Just because we went to war does not mean we stopped attacks, infact the only guarantee we can pull from the wars is the fact that we destroyed US reputation around the world and caused more radicals. George W. Bush was not the worst president but he was in the top 10 of the worst presidents the U.S. has had. This was because of his economic policy's (some with the help of Clinton) Handling of 9/11, Katrina, Iraq, Afghanistan, the first bank bailout, North Korea, Patriot act, ... the list goes on. I probably would put more blame on Cheney but in the end all decisions were on the presidents shoulders.
The Gulf War was a WIN.
This "War" is just retarded.
Were fighting an enemy who wont give up until every last one of us is dead,
or vise versa.
Say we kill an Iraqi, His sons, His brothers, if they aren't already, will come fight in his place, and have even more hatred for America. This goes on every other time we kill one, its almost endless. If we stay there long enough it would probably stop, but at what cost?
Another thing I noticed is that America seems to value Troop lives more, because the THOUSANDS of US marines and soldiers that were Killed on D-Day, weren't nearly as bad as they make it seem today. Which is a good thing, because any loss of like, even necessary, is never good.
I like the fact that we're trying to help and all but I don't think were doing it right....
EDIT: I miss Clinton XD
Well my dad dose anyway.
lulz
Christmas
08-11-2009, 01:28 PM
Res, it is easy to do well in the economy when that is essentially the only thing you have to worry about.
Also, the US soldiers aren't targeting Iraqis.
Also regarding Bush going to Iraq based on false pretenses:
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Once again there is a difference between comparing the political policies of someone with Hitler and trying to say that they want to kill everyone. I know that for basically the last 10 years the left has referenced Hitler in relation to Bush not on political grounds but as an ad hominem attack. I know it may be difficult to understand but Fascism does not stand for wanting to kill all the Jews. It is a real political ideology that encompasses a form of national socialism not to be confused with traditional socialism, see corporatism. In fact fascisms first use as a "bad" word was by the USSR where anything that was not in the best interest of the soviet agenda was referred to as fascist. This strategy was later adopted by the left in the states to describe anything that was against the left agenda even if said agenda was fascistic in nature. In fact if you go back to the early 1900s you can see that the American people and the left spoke openly about fascism. You will also see that the political mirror really went into full swing after the 20s where both parties began to basically become two sides of the same coin.
There is a lot of information out there about this stuff but it is not very common knowledge. You can use your own imagination as to why schools would gloss over Americas historical links to the fascist movement and how this movement has greatly shaped the last 100 years of our nation. Regardless, ignoring facts and glossing over the "hard" parts does not remove them from existence. The old news papers are still here the old books still around. Just because no one talks about it does not mean that the real history is gone or never excited. To understand our future and our present you must understand the past.
Christmas
08-11-2009, 02:42 PM
Who said fascism is the killing of jews anyways?
silent
08-11-2009, 06:32 PM
No one is stating that fascism is just about killing Jews but you are comparing two completely different people Obama and Hitler, just on the biases of a socialized health care program. The comparison is laughable and quite and insult because the same thing could be said to any president who had a majority of congress. And the fact that there was many leaders before Hitler ever came into power who wanted to have a socialized health care system including Roosevelt. As for schools glossing over this part of our history, this is do to political pressure and stupid people. My school's all thought about this issue as well as the large spread of Nazism (not the killing Jews part) in the US and other less respectable points in US history. It is the same crap that is going on now with school boards trying to force creationism into our science classes.
-=NYS=- C.O.
08-11-2009, 06:39 PM
All the United States Presidents are the same....they're puppets to the real leaders..
The last time a President tried to do his own thing was asassinated in Texas.
Christmas
08-11-2009, 06:41 PM
All the United States Presidents are the same....they're puppets to the real leaders..
The last time a President tried to do his own thing was asassinated in Texas.
http://img404.imageshack.us/i/lolwhuttranslated384267dn3.jpg/
you are comparing two completely different people Obama and Hitler, just on the biases of a socialized health care program.
Did I ever say health care anywhere? Someone is a bit insecure...
Also have I ever even mentioned Obama by name? I remind you that I have stated Bush by name and I am serious about that. I also note that no one had any objection to me placing him in that list.
I am speaking holistically about the direction of this nation and I was originally listing politicians who shaped fascism in the modern area. I am not listing exact things that I find wrong here because in order to accurately explain them and then list the sources and backup sources ect ect to quell foolish arguments or the lack of research on the part of others would take so much time and space that such efforts would be better spent writing a book about it.
Therefore I simply offer my generalized opinion with regard to the question posed that in my eyes the growth of fascism over the last 100 years is the greatest problem that faces America. :smirk:
silent
08-11-2009, 09:01 PM
Did I ever say health care anywhere? Someone is a bit insecure...
Also have I ever even mentioned Obama by name? I remind you that I have stated Bush by name and I am serious about that. I also note that no one had any objection to me placing him in that list.
I am speaking holistically about the direction of this nation and I was originally listing politicians who shaped fascism in the modern area. I am not listing exact things that I find wrong here because in order to accurately explain them and then list the sources and backup sources ect ect to quell foolish arguments or the lack of research on the part of others would take so much time and space that such efforts would be better spent writing a book about it.
Therefore I simply offer my generalized opinion with regard to the question posed that in my eyes the growth of fascism over the last 100 years is the greatest problem that faces America. :smirk:
No i am not insecure it is the largest political debate in our country at the moment and you responded to some one talking about Obama with the fascism comparison linking FDR to fascism which clearly his policy's were not so i could only assume you were criticizing Obama and the current bill since this same comparison is being done by the people fighting the bill. While yes Bush did do many things that could be deemed fascist and i agree you could claim that his presidency was partly fascist he did a massive reversal towards the end of his second term. Fascism will be apart of any government because people like to exert there power over others. I think the issue lies more on the people because they are to easy to control with missinformation which you can clearly see with the WMD issue in Iraq and the current town hall meetings.
DJ_MikeyRevile
08-11-2009, 09:25 PM
theres another HUGE AMERICA PROBLEM
like it is catastropic...
well not really america but just my state
YOU CANT BY ALCOHOL ON SUNDAYS... like WTF LAW IS THAT
Christmas
08-12-2009, 01:49 AM
Did I ever say health care anywhere? Someone is a bit insecure...
Also have I ever even mentioned Obama by name? I remind you that I have stated Bush by name and I am serious about that. I also note that no one had any objection to me placing him in that list.
I object to it. I think it's crap.
Actually, I believe that in his second term especially toward the end he enacted even more fascist policies.
As for the debate on the health care bill I recommend that people attempt to read it to see what it is actually about because from what I have seen it does not appear to be much different from the stimulus bill that ended up being nothing more than a hey lets all put money on fire project. Although I admit that I have not read it I will say that I will not support a bill that I have not read over. With this said I have heard of another bill that appears to simply create an extension of current gov programs that would cover the majority of the people without health-care, those being ones between jobs who's care has temporarily run out. I am not saying that I support this other bill but that it should be worth a read to see how it handles the problem without needlessly increasing government control.
Later I will try to look up both bills on thomas.gov and send you all the links. Oh on that note first I will see if it is safe because some gov sites such as the cash for clunkers one have the ability to install some pretty nasty stuff on your computer and also place your system and its contents under the property of the US gov.
Haelthcare should be a benefit not a busieness
Making us not a socialist country.
Some numb nut ex Governor by the name of Mitt Romney passed a law that requires all Massachusetts residents to have health care. If you can't afford one you'll be put on COBRA (State funded health insurance) and let me tell you... they can deny you of EVERYTHING that you need (medicines, MRI's, tests etc.)
If your going to give health care to everyone here's the deal. Make a thorough plan that doesn't have loopholes. The problem with government is they will ALWAYS find a loophole.
And for the record I am not on COBRA, but I have heard nightmares about it. I agree with Pink. If privatized health care (Tufts, Blue Cross, Cigna etc) is offered at your place of employment, TAKE IT!!!
inthebutt
08-13-2009, 03:46 PM
I object to it. I think it's crap.
in the great state of arizone you can buy beer and liquor on sundays but it has to be after 11am. so hahahahahahahahaah screw you guys.
-=NYS=- C.O.
08-13-2009, 04:09 PM
in the great state of arizone you can buy beer and liquor on sundays but it has to be after 11am. so hahahahahahahahaah screw you guys.
You can buy alcohol in New York City too any day of the week.
Curdy
08-14-2009, 09:34 AM
since im no americano but i have heard recently of a certain sarah palin calling are NHS evil is completly out of line.
But its fine we save more money on are Healthcare than you lot in the states on average you lot spend $120 more on healthcare per month than we do.
dont see why you lot fear universal healthcare. Then again theres only one major group that would oppose such a scheme to the end
INSURANCE COMPANYS!!!
silent
08-14-2009, 06:03 PM
since im no americano but i have heard recently of a certain sarah palin calling are NHS evil is completly out of line.
But its fine we save more money on are Healthcare than you lot in the states on average you lot spend $120 more on healthcare per month than we do.
dont see why you lot fear universal healthcare. Then again theres only one major group that would oppose such a scheme to the end
INSURANCE COMPANYS!!!
Sarah Palin is a retard. She couldn't even finish her 1 term as governor of Alaska. She speaks out her ass about things she knows nothing about and just makes up facts when needed. You would think some one as worthless and stupid as her would stop making comments that hurt the US reputation but sadly she won't just die.
EVL_Ripper
08-16-2009, 04:44 PM
I would have to say people who can speak properly, like then they say "wut" instead of "what".
Breezy
08-16-2009, 05:57 PM
how about you walter aka pedobear stay off this thread, your not even american and I have no idea why your even in here trying to solve america's problems, how about you start a thread titled "what problems does canada have and how should we fix them".
worry about your own country and leave america to us americans.
oh and also we are fixing our problems, look at how great obama is doing so far. plus this forum is about gaming, not politics. shadowdog your gonna start a riot this way lol.
Yeah, I agree, because Obama is the democrats GOD, and the republicans NIGHTMARE. Just like McCain, only vice versa.
Curdy, I love you.
Are you implying there was a difference between the two?
mastercheff
08-16-2009, 06:54 PM
rawr i doesn't know politics
&&toasties
08-16-2009, 07:12 PM
I would have to say people who can speak properly, like then they say "wut" instead of "what".
wut?
Jay Kay.
I agree.
Children need to stop skipping English and gym.
Too illiterate and too fat.
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