Remove rank, fast zombies, parachutes, zombie vision and go back to basics with zm?

[Kavinsky]

since zeros making an new intermittent fast class called bones designed specifically for escape maps, what about just going back to basics with zmod and remove all of the additions to it and play it like we used to without any of this stuff?

[weeman2412]

amen to that... who needs ranks :| .. btw did zero ever state the powers of these new BONES class zombies.. btw going to basics i hope you don't mean back to when we didn't have any zclass.. and nade knockbacks.. because that would just be horrible.. leave everything the way it is.. just give admin powers to do votes to remove fast zombies.... for ZE maps

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

No. There are many basic zm servers, if you wish to go play them then do so.

[&&toasties]

I say yes to everything EXCEPT parachutes.

Because when I want to jump off a building in a feeble attempt to excape from zombies, I want to be able to glide, and not go SPLAT.

[Ryanrenesis]

I actually played in the IBIS zm server yesterday n the day before that. I had often played in the IBIS WCS server and the rankings on there caused a lot of problematic issues among IBIS members as well as other players (Eg. I currently rank #1 in the WCS and the process of me getting there was ridden with f'ed up problems like jealousy and accusation)
So anyway, when i was in the zombie server the other day I noticed the ranks on it too. What i also saw were people complaining about sooo much more crap than other servers (I assume it is because when you die, your score is permanently recorded, therefore people are more "worried"[can't find right word] about their scores/deaths/kills) Rankings make the gameplay and gaming environment more serious.
So that is why I think you should remove the ranks. However, I think the addition of parachutes, zm vision, fast zombies, differnet zombie classes are awesome and they improve gameplay.

Just my 2 cents ;)

[&&toasties]

I actually played in the IBIS zm server yesterday n the day before that. I had often played in the IBIS WCS server and the rankings on there caused a lot of problematic issues among IBIS members as well as other players (Eg. I currently rank #1 in the WCS and the process of me getting there was ridden with f'ed up problems like jealousy and accusation)
So anyway, when i was in the zombie server the other day I noticed the ranks on it too. What i also saw were people complaining about sooo much more crap than other servers (I assume it is because when you die, your score is permanently recorded, therefore people are more "worried"[can't find right word] about their scores/deaths/kills) Rankings make the gameplay and gaming environment more serious.
So that is why I think you should remove the ranks. However, I think the addition of parachutes, zm vision, fast zombies, differnet zombie classes are awesome and they improve gameplay.

Just my 2 cents ;)

But we do have an issue with making people change their classes FROM fast zombies to anything else on escape maps.

It's not fair to the humans at all when they're on an escape map and there's a fast zombie.

Most definitely get rid of the fast zombie.

they've been a big problem for a long time.

[Kavinsky]

of course there would be other classes, I mean by going back to classic as going back to what it was like a year ago when I first found this place.

No parachutes or annoying zombie vision although with some sort of flash to grab the attention of the hopeless humans as it is now and a notificiation on screen for that particular person telling them there the zombie in big flashing lights or something isntead of the blinding zm vision.

and dont get me wrong I like the new deformed, which was introduced a few months after I found this place, I oughta put up another poll about getting the old zmod theme back and a new proposed vote about what weapons are allowed in crawl spaces though.

by the way when you get killled and I mean killed as you are dead and siting in specatate it removes a considerible amount of points from your score if you havent been killing zombies or humans as a zombie.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

fast zombies are fine, you people need to stop complaining already about the zm server. The fast zombies make it a challenge. The worst, just limit it to 1-3 people can use them. There were all happy.

[Ryanrenesis]

But we do have an issue with making people change their classes FROM fast zombies to anything else on escape maps.

I guess it could be an issue with some people. But I have played in other zombie servers that have fast zombies allowed with escape maps, although it is harder, I have seen enough times 4-5 humans finishing the escape. It is very possible.


The fast zombies make it a challenge. The worst, just limit it to 1-3 people can use them. There were all happy.

I agree to this great compromise. Use the the same type of system in WCS server (where some races have a certain maximum # allowed at one time)

[Kavinsky]

if Im on a roll and there are no barracades, obstacles or natural obstacles like a water pit or ladder I can tag 15 people or so within a minute, I guess if you greatly diminsh the fasts maneuverability (moving left to right, sidestrafling to move faster, not forward) it might make the odds even for the humans.

I just dont see limiting it to 3 making a difference in survivability, but that combined with the reduced mobility on popular escape maps may work.

[Ryanrenesis]

if Im on a roll and there are no barracades, obstacles or natural obstacles like a water pit or ladder I can tag 15 people or so within a minute, I guess if you greatly diminsh the fasts maneuverability (moving left to right, sidestrafling to move faster, not forward) it might make the odds even for the humans.

You know what? You are very right. When I played, the map was jurassic park, where there were many obstacles for zombies. I guess in a map with no obstacles, the zombies will be on our asses quicktime.


I just dont see limiting it to 3 making a difference in survivability, but that combined with the reduced mobility on popular escape maps may work.

Damn. That is also very true. All it takes is 1 zombie to spread the infection to the rest.

Kavinsky changed my perspective on this. LOL. Yes, i think I'd have to say your idea of speedy sidestrafing + holy's # limitation is the PROPER compromise

[Christmas]

Even if the ZM server is stripped down to what it was a year ago, people are going to find a way to complain.


Remove the ranks and let ZM be already.

[yours' truely]

No. There are many basic zm servers, if you wish to go play them then do so.
I voted NO also.

I agree 100% with holy on this.

The reason why I stick around and annoy everyone is b/c the ZM server is really a good server. It's unique the way that zero & co. really balanced it out with the classes, the limited ammo/reload and made it fun with the parachutes. Combined with the knockback's, it's fun to be a zombie or a human.

I think that if there's going to be changes to the ZM server, then there should be a thread to list all the complaints, then give the complaints a ranking system, then address them one by one with a thorough discussion.

Lenghty and time consuming, I know, but really, IBIS has one of the best ZM servers that I know of.

[norpser]

I hate fast zombies on escape maps - ESPECIALLY jurassic Park (all versions). Its no fun getting tagged within the first 30 seconds. And when everyone is a fast zombie, you really have no chance. Give or take the zombie is an idiot. Please either take them out during escape maps, lower their speed or a totally different zombie.

Rank - This one im not to concerned about as it provides some health competition for myself. Makes it fun being able to rank up. But if its taken out, it wouldnt be the end of the world for me.

Parachute - I love these as it makes the game much more fun, being able to fly to the rock in roy highway is my fav. Some maps like rooftop do need it turned off, but most of the time I just find it fun!

Maybe we could spice up the zombie classes a little bit to make the other ones a little more worth while (Is anyone EVER the guerellia(sp?) guy?)

Edit: Oh and whats zombie vision? I dont think ive ever used it :P

[yours' truely]

zombie vision is just the decoration on your screem when youget turned.

You'll notice the transparent, blood vein membrane at the edge of the screen.

I'd also like to mention that the zombie vision here is over nine thousand times better than any other servers I've played on. It doesn't distort, hinder or change the color of your vision but still ,lets you know your a zombie with a quick glance.

[anex]

zombie vision is just the decoration on your screem when youget turned.

You'll notice the transparent, blood vein membrane at the edge of the screen.

I'd also like to mention that the zombie vision here is over nine thousand times better than any other servers I've played on. It doesn't distort, hinder or change the color of your vision but still ,lets you know your a zombie with a quick glance.

I hate zombie vision because it gets annoying and its a little hard to see. I have a key binded just to get rid of zombie vision.

I think people realize they are a zombie when they can't use guns anymore and other people are shooting at them.

Ranks we could do away with. I miss the old ones that would let other people know how experienced the player they caded with was.

For instance, noob, regular, specialist, master, 31337.

[TheLittlestHobo]

I miss the old ones that would let other people know how experienced the player they caded with was.

For instance, noob, regular, specialist, master, 31337.

You missed Fan. But anyhoo, yes, I do agree with anex 153%. Those were the better days.

[Mallissin]

So anyway, when i was in the zombie server the other day I noticed the ranks on it too. What i also saw were people complaining about sooo much more crap than other servers (I assume it is because when you die, your score is permanently recorded, therefore people are more "worried"[can't find right word] about their scores/deaths/kills) Rankings make the gameplay and gaming environment more serious.


It's not the rankings that make it more serious, it's the need for cooperation. In WCS, GG and Pub, you still play fairly independent with some cooperation to win. But in ZM, cooperation is often a necessity.

I'm all for removing rank for other reasons, but it's not the cause of the tension on the server most of the time.

I don't have an issue with fast zombies on escape maps, but I do have issue with their ability to avoid knockback by straft running (holding W and A/S while angling with mouse). It's this that really dooms most people on escape maps.

I also like parachutes. I think it adds something to the gameplay, albeit too much on some maps like rooftop escape. Are there variables in the parachute mod you can change?

[Kavinsky]

alright so the best thing to do is just hit these issues one by one then I take it?

[yours' truely]

alright so the best thing to do is just hit these issues one by one then I take it?
appears so.

another thing:
Fast on ZE's, don't like.
Fast on ZM's, i think if it's removed, then the challenge of staying human will be dramaticly reduced. Especially in crawl spaces where all other zombies go ridiculously slow in, the fast will have a very good chance of getting in there and/or causing a comical panic. fun for both sides.

[TheLittlestHobo]

Fast zombies in cade maps only.

[Jeimuzu]

Agreed.

[Kavinsky]

after playing as the pred xp for a few rounds I think the ideal fast would be the pred xp with the manoeuvrability of the fast.

[JigSaW]

I've always wanted another "Classic" zombie server with no classes etc ^^

[deprodigy]

I've always wanted another "Classic" zombie server with no classes etc ^^

lfd server jig, ill pay...

[๖ReS]

I hate fasts. They ruin everything.

Same with jumpers. They only ruin high spots, and are other wise worthless..

[Jeimuzu]

Isn't that the point, Res?..

Another zombie server with only classics would be interesting.. But we still need that escape map only server!

[Christmas]

Isn't that the point, Res?..

Another zombie server with only classics would be interesting.. But we still need that escape map only server!

Why?



If it makes the rank whores rage then i'm all for keeping the escapes on one server.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

Isn't that the point, Res?..

Another zombie server with only classics would be interesting.. But we still need that escape map only server!


we don't need a seperate server for escape maps. im sick of hearing about it.

If you don't like escape maps, don't vote for them. Even yet don't play, but stop your complaining about it.


I think escape maps should be changed a bit to give out more skill points if you survive in it.

[the muffin man]

i think that some maps should be set to restrict certain zombie classes... like Fast zombies on LOTR or Deathstar... but other than that i have no problem.

[Kavinsky]

To be frank I wish I could just close these threads I don't care anymore, the way things are going the map selection is never going to be properly reduced, its just too big to really change anything anymore.

[-=NYS=- C.O.]

I dont care !! FTW !!!

[Sin]

Zombie Mod FTL!

[whytboiz33]

lfd server jig, ill pay...

l4d server mother fuckers. Its about time

[Jeimuzu]

L4D server.. Half of us could probably just host L4D for whoever we plan on playing with.


Zombie Mod FTW!

Here, I corrected it for you.

[Sin]

Here, I corrected it for you.

Now you're gonna get shit on for correcting a perfectly thought out post.

-1 James

[๖ReS]

I like men and totally eat the cock all day.

I'd let James violate me with a wine bottle.

Dude I had no idea you swung that way...

[loka]

it's not a wine bottle it's a hypnotiq bottle. it's a bit more evasive.

[Sin]

Dude I had no idea you swung that way...

Hahahahaha!

See, now that was clever.