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walterbrunswick
10-24-2009, 07:23 PM
So I was playing Jurrassic Park tonight. Things were going fine. Chase was with me, and when we got to the truck, we both made it on, and I threw a nade at him to glitch him off the truck and had a laugh. Chase was pissed at me and later when I inquired "WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THE GATE!?" after zombies got in, chase spammed admin chat saying something along the lines of "YOU DIPSHIT" which was directed at me. I promptly muted him. A minute or two later, echo501st bans him for 7 days.

(In-game chat)

(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: How long did you ban him for?
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: 7
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: For that?
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: yes
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: i considered it spaming and insulting admin
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: Echo
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: That was directed at me
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: Me and chase bug each other
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: idaf
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: I didn't ask you to intervene in the situation
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: i had to look at it
Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a> : You have to learn how to ignore things.
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: he should have whispered u

(In STEAM chat)

20:09 - chase !: no im not. its alright ill take the ban
20:09 - WalterHasGermanDrill!:D: It's pissing me off that he's handling my affairs
20:10 - chase !: well would he rather i spam chat or to you through the admin thing
20:10 - WalterHasGermanDrill!:D: he said "whisper it"
20:11 - chase !: how the hell do you whisper something through text?

(In-game chat)

(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: Echo
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a> to (Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>) : im sry but i dont tolerate admin chat spamming
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: I muted him because of his spam.
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: You're going overboard.
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: okay
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: It was my call, and I muted him.
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: I don't need you to fight my battles.
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: i wasnt fucking fighting your god damn battles
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: stfu
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: This is going to the forums.
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: unnamed change your name

(In STEAM chat)

20:11 - WalterHasGermanDrill!:D: I'm taking this to the forums
20:11 - WalterHasGermanDrill!:D: Can you back me up please?
20:11 - chase !: yeah thats fine
20:12 - WalterHasGermanDrill!:D: Great, thanks.
20:12 - chase !: im not going to fight my ban... ill back you up that it was between me and you though
20:12 - WalterHasGermanDrill!:D: Please.
20:12 - chase !: fine whatever
20:12 - WalterHasGermanDrill!:D: No I mean please and thanks.
20:12 - WalterHasGermanDrill!:D: Yes.
20:12 - WalterHasGermanDrill!:D: It was between you and me.
20:13 - chase !: let me know when its posted

echo501st was out of line here, and took my affairs into his own hands.

7-day ban for first-time mic spammer offense is WAY too excessive. Especially after I muted him.

echo501st keep your nose out of my admin business!

echo501st
10-24-2009, 07:28 PM
1st of all it wasnt a mic spam
2nd it was directed to admin chat
3rd... well see the whole group of things

(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: WTF
Ren : !zmenu
(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU
ñפֿ΅O'connor : Someone was standing right next to it
(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: LOL chase
(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU
[Burgerbuddies] Whopper suicided.
(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU
(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU
Junkmail : i pressed it once u said
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: Still upset?
(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU
(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: :D
(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU
[Burgerbuddies] Little Mexican suicided.
(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU
(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU
*DEAD* ñפֿ.kamikaze77<3pip : timeleft
Timeleft 7:50
(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU
(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: muted player ﻛрŋғ™ chase !
*DEAD* ñפֿ.kamikaze77<3pip : nextmap
Sniper : lol
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: The feeling will pass..
¢яσu zєяσ d(^_^)b : One question
Abandoned : !ztele
Brave Little Toaster : yes it is!
*DEAD* ƒҚω Jonathan : Zombie Diaries - Day 1: Ren was a good friend... until she got turned... I shot her brains out then ate them, not a good idea.
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: Now he's spamming my STEAM chat :|
¢яσu zєяσ d(^_^)b : How can i use the parachute¿
Cmac : ztele
The One Tribal connected
Ren : !ztele
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: banned player ﻛрŋғ™ chase !Radio] Type !radio to bring up the radio menu
[Source Radio] Type !radiooff to switch the radio off
[ZOMBIE] ZombieMod is enabled, run for your lives, the game is HUMANS vs. ZOMBIES.
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: How long did you ban him for?
The One Tribal connected
*SPEC* pissed_echo501st<ibis.a> : 7
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: 7
-ska- connected
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: For that?
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: yes
The One Tribal connected
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The One Tribal connected
<<I.K>>TheSoldier«£kû» killed Cmac with zombie_claws_of_death.
<<I.K>>TheSoldier«£kû» zombified Cmac
<<I.K>>TheSoldier«£kû» killed Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a> with zombie_claws_of_death.
<<I.K>>TheSoldier«£kû» zombified Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: i considered it spaming and insulting admin
<<I.K>>TheSoldier«£kû» zombified Cpt.Native ת/ύ
<<I.K>>TheSoldier«£kû» killed Cpt.Native ת/ύ with zombie_claws_of_death.
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*SPEC* pissed_echo501st<ibis.a> :
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: Echo
mag36 suicided.
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: That was directed at me
The One Tribal connected
¢яσu zєяσ d(^_^)b has a $600 Bounty started
¢яσu zєяσ d(^_^)b killed sr_maC with zombie_claws_of_death.
¢яσu zєяσ d(^_^)b zombified sr_maC
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: Me and chase bug each other
*SPEC* Lolsbian sigh. : timeleft
Timeleft 5:27
¢яσu zєяσ d(^_^)b killed Kenny Powers with zombie_claws_of_death.
sr_maC killed (1)unnamed with zombie_claws_of_death.
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(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: idaf
Kavinsky suicided.
Mr.Blueberriemuffin connected
¢яσu zєяσ d(^_^)b zombified ionik79
¢яσu zєяσ d(^_^)b killed ionik79 with zombie_claws_of_death.
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...Mersy(.o)ne'R'<--- connected
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: I didn't ask you to intervene in the situation
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: i had to look at it
ionik79 killed Oho no with zombie_claws_of_death.
ionik79 killed unnamed with zombie_claws_of_death.
ionik79 zombified unnamed
The One Tribal connected
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for The One Tribal (STEAM_0:0:25715392).
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for The One Tribal (STEAM_0:0:25715392).
¢яσu zєяσ d(^_^)b killed asian_BOOBIES with zombie_claws_of_death.
¢яσu zєяσ d(^_^)b zombified asian_BOOBIES
Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a> : You have to learn how to ignore things.
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: he should have whispered u
ñפֿ.kamikaze77<3pip : What the fuck.
Brave Little Toaster : gggg
Į ĶēĞ Į O' Malley (BLUE) : SOMEONE IS TRYING TO CRASH SERVER
asian_BOOBIES : !ztele
m : ?
Brave Little Toaster : well isnt this sexy
ionik79 : ???
ñפֿ.kamikaze77<3pip : This is fucking annoying.
Grandslaya : lmao
Coors light man connected
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Coors light man (STEAM_0:0:15445472).
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<<I.K>>TheSoldier«£kû» : god i hate people that do this shit
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The One Tribal connected
Player ¢яσu zєяσ d(^_^)b was autokicked for breaking the 175ms ping limit on this server
unnamed zombified Aizen
unnamed killed Aizen with zombie_claws_of_death.
Kenny Powers zombified SuperHero0nCrack
Kenny Powers killed SuperHero0nCrack with zombie_claws_of_death.
Mr.Blueberriemuffin connected
SuperHero0nCrack zombified Į ĶēĞ Į O' Malley (BLUE)
SuperHero0nCrack killed Į ĶēĞ Į O' Malley (BLUE) with zombie_claws_of_death.
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Player Aizen was autokicked for breaking the 175ms ping limit on this server
Sniper suicided.
*DEAD* Sniper : omg
Diabeetus connected
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Diabeetus (STEAM_0:0:19889863).
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Diabeetus (STEAM_0:0:19889863).
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Oho no (STEAM_0:0:22329436).
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Oho no (STEAM_0:0:22329436).
Oho no connected
ionik79 killed EFG with zombie_claws_of_death.
ionik79 zombified EFG
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: Echo
Player ish was autokicked for breaking the 175ms ping limit on this server
*DEAD* Diabeetus : !zmenu
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a> to (Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>) : im sry but i dont tolerate admin chat spamming
ñפֿ.kamikaze77<3pip suicided.
ionik79 suicided.
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: I muted him because of his spam.
EFG zombified Grandslaya
EFG killed Grandslaya with zombie_claws_of_death.
Player Coors light man was autokicked for breaking the 175ms ping limit on this server
*DEAD* ñפֿ.kamikaze77<3pip : Oh my fucking god.
Player STRICHER was autokicked for breaking the 175ms ping limit on this server
Player Cmac was autokicked for breaking the 175ms ping limit on this server
Console: ** Call the mainland - Tell them to send the damn helicopters! **
Console: ** SECURE THE LZ **
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: You're going overboard.
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: okay
king_leonitis : how do we shut the gates
unnamed zombified [Burgerbuddies] Little Mexican
unnamed killed [Burgerbuddies] Little Mexican with zombie_claws_of_death.
EFG : HEY
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: It was my call, and I muted him.
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: I don't need you to fight my battles.
Grandslaya suicided.
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(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: i wasnt fucking fighting your god damn battles
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: stfu
EFG : admin
EFG : wats causing lag
Kenny Powers suicided.
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Cmac (STEAM_0:0:23716380).
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Cmac (STEAM_0:0:23716380).
Cmac connected
Console: ** Biosyn Huey inbound - ETA 15 seconds **
EFG suicided.
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: This is going to the forums.
(ADMIN) pissed_echo501st<ibis.a>: unnamed change your name

echo501st
10-24-2009, 07:36 PM
if i count right that was thirteen "(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU."s

thirteen
13
i say that is enough to ban someone for someone spaming admin chat
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: That was directed at me
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: I didn't ask you to intervene in the situation
cuz really? im pretty sure that says (TO ADMIN) not ﻛрŋғ™ chase to (Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>)

chase
10-24-2009, 07:40 PM
Im not saying i wasnt spamming, but i think 7 days for text spamming through the admin talk thingy is just overkill. Would you rather i do it through regular chat?

Walter muted me, and that was done, but a good 2 minutes later im suddenly banned for 7 days? Come on. I'll take the ban, but i still think its pretty gay considering there really was no harm done to the other players... they couldnt see it and the only people that could were echo and walter.

If anybody should have banned me, it should have been walter, but this is something we do to each other all the time.

I'd also like to say i dont have a problem with echo, but this ban was overkill. Walter banned somebody for 1 day for breaking the bridge on humans after warning them, yet i get a 7 day ban for text spamming without warning? If you read the server rules, i should have been kicked first, then temp banned if i did it again.

If everybody agrees i should stay banned, then idc. its not that big of a deal. the main problem here is that i was dealt with by walter, then echo decided to step in to something between me and walter.

chase
10-24-2009, 07:44 PM
if i count right that was thirteen "(TO ADMIN) ﻛрŋғ™ chase !: NOBODY DIPSHIT. WE ALL HATE YOU."s

thirteen
13
i say that is enough to ban someone for someone spaming admin chat
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: That was directed at me
(ADMIN) Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>: I didn't ask you to intervene in the situation
cuz really? im pretty sure that says (TO ADMIN) not ﻛрŋғ™ chase to (Walter Jägerfuzz<ibis.a>)

it was directed to walter. dont try and deny that you didnt know that because walter definately was talking about it being about him through his mic

echo501st
10-24-2009, 07:46 PM
i had ban less than 20 seconds after the last message u sent.
if you know the rules so well then you shouldve known not to spam. i had warned the round before that i was tired of ppl spamming and i would retaliate against spammers

echo501st
10-24-2009, 07:48 PM
and its funny that i couldve heard him through mic chat seeing i was in spec and he had been turned seconds after complaining about the gate not being closed

chase
10-24-2009, 07:52 PM
thats fine. it felt like two minutes to me.

I know not to spam. if you are an admin you should know the proper way to deal with this stuff and it should have been a kick first. Im really not trying to start anything with you, im just saying that your ban wasn't right in my mind... but then again i was the one who got banned...

Like i said, if people feel the ban was well deserved then ill stick it out.

Tragedy
10-24-2009, 07:56 PM
Sorry to but in on other admins business and such, but 7 days is highly excessive when the person who it was directed to...was an admin...and the offenders friend who was basically laughing at the situation. Not to mention it was OBVIOUS Walters attitude was like that towards the situation.

And you mentioned the rules...if I recall you should of:

-Warned Him (before a mute and/or a kick)
-Muted/Kicked
-Banned (starting with the lowest ban first)

I believe Zero mentioned that the 7-day bans should be held back as a "last resort" option.


1. Get the dude unbanned
2. Don't be so "trigger happy" on your ban button. It should NOT be the first thing you think to do in a situation like that.




Anyway...I made my points and I am not here to argue.

echo501st
10-24-2009, 07:57 PM
i really dont care i just dont feel like dealing with fucking spammers. as of right now there is a great possiblity of me leaving counterstrike because of the noobs on the server.
ill tell you the truth, if you wouldnt have been sending those to admin chat and just walter i wouldnt have given a shit, but when i have to read the annoying shit it becomes my problem.

Holy-Sonic
10-24-2009, 08:01 PM
Im with walter if a admin already did something you don't continue adding the sentence he was muted you don't just go instant ban someone for 1 week

echo501st
10-24-2009, 08:01 PM
another thing i dont have any admin commands bound, if i have the time to open up my menu and get to your name under the ban menu then your getting ban.

if he wouldve been a normal chat spammer or a new person i wouldnt have ban, but he was a regular and it was admin chat

walterbrunswick
10-24-2009, 08:02 PM
@ Tragedy I haven't said hi to you yet in your introduction thread, but I'll go do that in a second. You're alright :wtg:

@ echo501st Take your finger off the banhammer trigger!!!!:chillpill::chillpill::chillpill:

chase
10-24-2009, 08:04 PM
Thank you Tragedy.

And echo, as far as i know there is no way to send it directly to Walter through the chat. the closest i get is through the admin chat which narrowed it down to you and walter instead of the whole server.

I'm sorry to hear that you're thinking about leaving counterstrike because of noobs on the server, but i can assure you, i am a good player and i usually dont do anything to act out against others unless i know them well enough which in this case me and walter go back a year or two.

I do agree with you though, there are a ton of noobs on the server and i am usually as agitated as you are when i play because of them. I'm sorry if you now view me as one of those noobs.

echo501st
10-24-2009, 08:22 PM
i dont view you as one of those
you are a regular
thats how i see 20% of the ppl

Kavinsky
10-24-2009, 08:29 PM
walter two things, stop bitching about the little shit things that you should have taken care of anyways as the senior admin and stop being a forum troll rat.

chase
10-24-2009, 08:32 PM
i appreciate the unban (not sure who did it)

echo501st
10-24-2009, 08:40 PM
prolly walter

walterbrunswick
10-24-2009, 08:43 PM
prolly walter

I just got back here. I was downstairs enjoying my stereo system setup I wired up downstairs (Cinepro 1K2 1000W power amp (1996), Audio Research MkII preamp (1989) and 2 300W (600W RMS) speakers)... and getting another beer...

walterbrunswick
10-24-2009, 08:44 PM
walter two things, stop bitching about the little shit things that you should have taken care of anyways as the senior admin and stop being a forum troll rat.

You're telling me to stop bitching? Isn't that just a little hypocritical?

Secondly, how am I trolling?

Thirdly, STFU, go away, and go change your avatar & sig to yet another picture of another classic car...

echo501st
10-24-2009, 08:52 PM
look, i try to be a good admin, its not like i purposely go crazy. yeah, today and yesterday ive been a little mad bout some stuff, which is some stuff that i cant talk about, and im sorry.
walter im sorry i got into your business. most escape levels put me in ban mod. to chase im sorry. i wish i could take it back. i just got a little aggravated. okay so i got really aggravated. im sorry

chase
10-24-2009, 09:02 PM
Guys, relax. If you want to flame each other, make a thread about it.

And to echo, its alright i understand your frustration. I don't have a problem with you personally. Whatever is going on to make you aggrivated is your own business. We've all been through those times.

Im just glad this didn't get too out of hand...

XxMastagunzxX
10-24-2009, 09:22 PM
Its not my place to come here and tell you how to be an admin and I am not implying I am a great one but I do believe 7 days was uncalled for.

Tragedy
10-24-2009, 09:44 PM
wouldn't you have to read it regardless of what chat it was in? lol.

ZERO
10-24-2009, 10:29 PM
I agree that disrespecting an admin 13 times is insane. Also I think that for someone that has already disrespected an admin they should have a ban that shows them not to do it again. Therefore I think that a max ban of 2 hours for a first time offender of disrespect along with the spam is reasonable. Therefore it is important to note that he preformed this action 12 times after the initial outburst. (at a very fast interval i know)

Thus it is 2 hours x 12 outbursts = 1day ban. He will be unbanned tomorrow.