New Computer ! :D

[๖ReS]

So hopefully I will be able to join my IBIS brothers and sisters once again.

I'm buying a computer from a local company that I can call and have customized. I'm doing so because if anything ever happened I can take it right to them, plus they have good prices.

So here it is.

Quad Core Duo

2 Gigs of RAM

250 Gig HD

Siig PCI soundboard

GeForce 9800GTX

Windows Vista

Acer 19"

With an Anti Virus program.

All of this can be upgraded I just need to call them, I'm thinking more ram and bigger HD but everything else is fine with me. What do you guys think ?

Oh and this is all 1,400$ (Price still does not really matter and my mom is the one who brought this up so its gunna happen and it aint my money lol.)

[[UA] Mos Def]

In my opinion you can put together a much better system for 1400 if you were to build it yourself. I had some extra time on my hands tonight so I did a little bit of research on Newegg.com and I put together a pretty sweet system for you for about 1400.00 bucks. It looks like this:

Case: Any Full size ATX case (I would go with Antec): 150.00
MB: Asus m4a79t deluxe: 180.00
CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 (quad core): 180.00
VGA (Graphics Card): XFX Radeon HD 5770: 190.00
Memory: Corsair 2x2: 115.00
HD: 2 Western Digital 500 GB: 120.00
PSU (power supply): Antec 700w: 90.00
DVD optical drive: Lite on: 30.00
Monitor: Acer 19": 120.00
OS: Windows 7 64 bit: 140.00

I am pretty sure this adds up to about 1315.00 so you would have some money left over for your sound card and Wireless card too. So I suppose what I am saying is that you can definitely get a better graphics card, more memory, more HD space, in my opinion a better OS and probably a cooler case for less money!!! Not sure if this helps or not, but I just thought I would let you know what is out there!!!

[๖ReS]

Mos Def;56277']In my opinion you can put together a much better system for 1400 if you were to build it yourself. I had some extra time on my hands tonight so I did a little bit of research on Newegg.com and I put together a pretty sweet system for you for about 1400.00 bucks. It looks like this:

Case: Any Full size ATX case (I would go with Antec): 150.00
MB: Asus m4a79t deluxe: 180.00
CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 (quad core): 180.00
VGA (Graphics Card): XFX Radeon HD 5770: 190.00
Memory: Corsair 2x2: 115.00
HD: 2 Western Digital 500 GB: 120.00
PSU (power supply): Antec 700w: 90.00
DVD optical drive: Lite on: 30.00
Monitor: Acer 19": 120.00
OS: Windows 7 64 bit: 140.00

I am pretty sure this adds up to about 1315.00 so you would have some money left over for your sound card and Wireless card too. So I suppose what I am saying is that you can definitely get a better graphics card, more memory, more HD space, in my opinion a better OS and probably a cooler case for less money!!! Not sure if this helps or not, but I just thought I would let you know what is out there!!!

Whoa man thanks. The only problem is that my mother (whom pretty much controls every bit of cash in the family) has her mind set on this company. I could easily call them up and tell them I want better shit. I just wanted to know if that was a good/decent setup as is. I wanted a better HD and more RAM and thats about it. Remember.. Money really is not an issue here.

[[UA] Mos Def]

I think you got a pretty good setup going there....you are right though, I would definitely suggest more ram, at least 4 gigs, and I would opt for two HDs, 500 gig each. Also, that graphics card is good, but I think you might want to do a little bit better there as well, but for the most part you have a good system!!! I prefer windows 7 over Vista, but that is just me......Goodluck man, you are going to be doing some serious gaming with this new system!!!

[D-Monic]

Yea I would suggest trying to talk her into buying the parts yourself and setting up your own rig. When you buy pre made machines you are paying for labor and company name aswell. Whether it be a good name or not.

[XxMastagunzxX]

res that's a ripoff for $1,400.

[EVL_Ripper]

Buy an E-machines , they're Anex approved. :wtg:

[maynard]

lol buy the parts and put it together yourself. or just buy the parts and pay for someone 2 put it together for you. 1400 for that is a HORRIBLE DEAL

I paid 700 bucks for my PC and it's better then the 1 you posted... and the reason for that is cause I didn't buy it from a big company.


buy the parts, don't buy a pre-made rig from some big wig company.

[OMGBEARS]

I could build you a computer twice as good as that for under $900. If you're paying anything more than $500 for that thing you're getting ripped off.

[maynard]

res you are missed. hurry back.:icon_mrgreen:

[OMGBEARS]

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533)

$119.99

Acer P235Hbmid Black 23" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009179)

$199.99

MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130223)

$167.99

2x EVGA 01G-P3-N972-TR GeForce 9800 GT 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130391)

$279.98

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model CMD8GX3M4A1333C7 - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145284)

$249.99

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ965FBGMBOX - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727)

$179.99

Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V version 2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC ... - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371026)
+
Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129058)

$199.94

Total price is $1,397.87. The above computer is about 3x better than what you are going to get. You can purchase each item off of newegg and assemble them yourself -- it's really quite easy to do so and you don't have to pay anything for labor. It took me ~2 hours to completely put together my computer from scratch, and I had never built one before.

[StarsMine]

Res the computer you posted in this day in age is absolute shit for that price.
OMGBEARS for that money why put 9800s in it? use a 5770 or something.

[๖ReS]

Mama Res has he fucking mind set on this company. Also, MONEY IS NOT A FUCKING ISSUE, ITS NOT MINE I DON'T CARE.

lol.

She knows we need a new one so price really isn't an issue. This company is close to me and I can call them up and customize it any way I wont. Seriously I don't give a shit about money and I don't really need to be running anything to complicated, one game and maybe a Internet Browser is all I would have going so I don't need the greatest system ever. If it ever like blows up and melts on me I can walk it in for a complete refund and a new computer. So all in all I would say its a pretty good deal.

Did I say price doesn't mater ? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T.

:D

[mastercheff]

lol i paid 800$ for the computer my dad smashed to bits it wasn't even that good anyways but 1400$ is a ludicrous price for what your getting

whoops read your last post sorry but including the ludicrous price part :D

[StarsMine]

Mama Res has he fucking mind set on this company. Also, MONEY IS NOT A FUCKING ISSUE, ITS NOT MINE I DON'T CARE.

lol.

She knows we need a new one so price really isn't an issue. This company is close to me and I can call them up and customize it any way I wont. Seriously I don't give a shit about money and I don't really need to be running anything to complicated, one game and maybe a Internet Browser is all I would have going so I don't need the greatest system ever. If it ever like blows up and melts on me I can walk it in for a complete refund and a new computer. So all in all I would say its a pretty good deal.

Did I say price doesn't mater ? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T.

:D

IF PRICE DOESNT MATTER BUY A MAC!
Dont give us that bullshit or we will build you a 3000$ computer with 5970 in crossfire and a I7 six core cpu.

[mastercheff]

Can we give him a nasa super computer?

[StarsMine]

No budget, then here is the computer you want.
You can buy another 5970 later.
oops forgot to put in a SSD drive, :/ get one of those to.

[๖ReS]

Here's the plan.

Go with what I had, get 4 Gigs of DDR3, a 1 Terabyte HD, and another 250 for OS and random crap. Everything else I will keep and Im pretty sure I'll have a nice computer.. I wasn't gunna break like 2,000 dollars but that compy Stars poster gave me wood.

>.>

[StarsMine]

:lmao:
what I posted is absolute overkill for gaming and for making videos. the two hardest things a computer can do for normal users.

Realistically you might want an i5 or a lower end i7 with a 5870 and 6gigs of ddr3 in triple channel
A mid sized tower and a an 800 watt PSU to give you space to upgrade to crossfire 5870

Or if your budget is even smaller go with a phenom II.

[ZERO]

that was the best you could do for no budget? Just 3 parts of my computer = the entire amount you just spent...

Also how was that overkill?

If you want overkill and a no budget limit just build my computer with the parts that have been invented since then.

Also if you just want a prebuilt with no budget why not just buy an Alienware!? I mean when you throw cost out you can do anything. There is a ton of stuff that was cut from my computers budget to make cost and I would highly suggest that if you want a great computer at unlimited cost to simply build the SBII revision 2. (I am using revision 9) Estimated cost is >=$10,000 and will give you basically the most powerful desktop computer on earth. You will also need to spend a few hundred on electrical upgrades to your room/house and possibly some more money for upgraded air conditioning as my version already maxes out a regular ac in the summer.

Also 1TB is not enough space if you need a lot of video storage. I have 3.5TB for my entire system and I expect it to last 1-2 years before 2TB more is needed.

[[UA] Mos Def]

Hey bro I bet there are some Ibis members that are local to you that would be more than happy to help you put a rig together. Try to explain to your mom that getting that machine from the company you were talking about it a complete rip off. Have her read this thread if she doesn't believe you. I realize you said that money isn't an issue, but for that amount of money you can get a beast of a system instead of the mediocre one you are thinking about getting! I think asking around and seeing if anyone is near you to help with a build would be my best suggestion. I would be more than happy to help you build this rig but I doubt you are in the Ohio area!! Goodluck and hopefully everyone's suggestions on here will help.....

[StarsMine]

that was the best you could do for no budget? Just 3 parts of my computer = the entire amount you just spent...

Also how was that overkill?

If you want overkill and a no budget limit just build my computer with the parts that have been invented since then.

Also if you just want a prebuilt with no budget why not just buy an Alienware!? I mean when you throw cost out you can do anything. There is a ton of stuff that was cut from my computers budget to make cost and I would highly suggest that if you want a great computer at unlimited cost to simply build the SBII revision 2. (I am using revision 9) Estimated cost is >=$10,000 and will give you basically the most powerful desktop computer on earth. You will also need to spend a few hundred on electrical upgrades to your room/house and possibly some more money for upgraded air conditioning as my version already maxes out a regular ac in the summer.

Also 1TB is not enough space if you need a lot of video storage. I have 3.5TB for my entire system and I expect it to last 1-2 years before 2TB more is needed.

Yes well your not normal.
and hell, even though I said no limit, I limited my self as to not put in that 1 grand extreme quad core i7 (makes me wonder what the hell the hexacore will cost).
I also didn't put in any overclocking equipment. That tower supports a shit load of fans and you could probably put a massive cooler on the processor and shit.
I could have put 4 1tb harddrives and tell him to RAID 5 it (or does that take 5 idk).

[XxMastagunzxX]

Just don't get an AMD processor. Intel FTW.

[StarsMine]

Just don't get an AMD processor. Intel FTW.

.... why not? the phenom II is actually a beast. its between the i3 and i5 in power if I remember right. Someone can correct me if im wrong

[ZERO]

Yea for no budget get:
$400 ASUS P6T7 WS Supercomputer
$1689 Xeon W5590 Nehalem-EP 3.33GHz
$4000 OCZSSDPCIE-ZDM84512G (512GB 780mb/s+ read/write) 2x
$2000 BFGEGTX2951792BE x4
$600 KHX2000C8D3T1K3/6GX x2
$549 PPCT1200ESA

So that is $9238 but you will need another 2-3k for cooling and cases.

Now this is unlimited budgeting!

Cooling needs (estimated price)
$90 Latest EK supreme version
$300 30-50ft of 1/2 ID tubing laboratory grade
$250 34+ 1/2ID bitspower compression fittings
$700 3-4 4x 120mm fan radiators
$400 3-4 335 pumps
$100 3-4 335 upgraded pump tops
$600 4 295 full blocks
$200 1 p6t7ws fullblock cover
$100 3-4 tanks
$100 possibly quick disconnects fittings
$20 possibly female female couplers
$400 30+ 120mm fans
$60 24 carrot diamond thermal paste
$200 6 fan controllers/temp readers
$130 6-8 bitspower temp probes
About $3650 needed for cooling without coolant, regardless of coolant even if water is used you will need at least $100-$300 more.

So as you see considering the budget for the SBII revision 2 was $15,000 this configuration is fairly close.

[ZERO]

.... why not? the phenom II is actually a beast. its between the i3 and i5 in power if I remember right. Someone can correct me if im wrong

If you are referring to efficacy power: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/pcs/2010/02/24/energy-efficient-hardware-investigated/1 this study concluded that watt for watt Intel is better...

[StarsMine]

If you are referring to efficacy power: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/pcs/2010/02/24/energy-efficient-hardware-investigated/1 this study concluded that watt for watt Intel is better...

hell I was right, the graphs also show that the Phenom II is more powerfull then the i3 :P

Considering the Mobos for that cost 100$ and the CPU costs 100$ also, I think that the power you save is rather insignificant
It uses the same amount of power on idle, just uses more on full load. who puts a quad core on full load? I hardly do that with my Pentium unless im converting a video, even then the speed of such a processor means it takes less time to do it


hmm didnt put the Mobos into my logic above.

[ZERO]

Well only the most powerful AMD was more efficient and I think that one cost more than an i3 also he said no budget so it should not matter. I mean logically with no budget the only option is the one I am posting above.

[StarsMine]

With no budget I would go get NASA to build me something. Or ask the pentagon what it did with all those PS3 cells, and get one of those.

[ZERO]

Actually a supercomputer was built with the parts listed above except they used 7 gpus instead of 4 since they were not using sli. there's actually cost less money but was less powerful in many aspects as it was built for processing 3d xrays. This systems power and processing capability once configured is unmatched even by low level supercomputers. Also if you were using a node system which is how the ps3 thing works you can just 2x or 4x ect the above config and put it in a node config and then you would have a real computer computer. In fact if you did not care about gaming and only computation as your suggesting in your post a simply motherboard switch for one with 2cpu slots and 2x the ram slots will be better than any config your suggestions can match. This is logically short of using intiam parts or other equipment that is highly specialized. At this point though you will need a custom linux version to make it work and even custom fraimware/bos. My suggested config is the best all category system for sub $15,000.

[OMGBEARS]

Mama Res has he fucking mind set on this company. Also, MONEY IS NOT A FUCKING ISSUE, ITS NOT MINE I DON'T CARE.

lol.

She knows we need a new one so price really isn't an issue. This company is close to me and I can call them up and customize it any way I wont. Seriously I don't give a shit about money and I don't really need to be running anything to complicated, one game and maybe a Internet Browser is all I would have going so I don't need the greatest system ever. If it ever like blows up and melts on me I can walk it in for a complete refund and a new computer. So all in all I would say its a pretty good deal.

Did I say price doesn't mater ? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T.

:D

There's no excuse for getting ripped off. If you don't need a fancy system then you don't need to spend $1400 for one that won't last you much more than 2 years.

If price doesn't matter send me $1400.

[ZERO]

There's no excuse for getting ripped off. If you don't need a fancy system then you don't need to spend $1400 for one that won't last you much more than 2 years.

If price doesn't matter send me $1400.

I can say that I would not pay more than $700 total for that system. But then again I have never been one to like sub 1k systems for use as a main computer. For example I would spend <$700 on a file server

[mag36]

Invoice Summary 3/24/09
DISCOUNT FOR COMBO
-$15.00
DISCOUNT FOR COMBO
-$15.00
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
$109.99
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH22NS30 - OEM
$24.99
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Vigor Monsoon III LT Dual 120mm Fan CPU Cooler Socket 1366 Ready - Retail
$61.99
combo
Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
$279.99
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
MSI X58 Platinum SLI LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
$224.99
combo
MSI R4850-512M OC Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
$139.99
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail
$109.99
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$64.99
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
OCZ Platinum 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1333LV3GK - Retail
$57.99
================================================== =========================================
Subtotal $1,044.91
Tax $99.39
UPS 3 DAYS $29.55
Order Total $1,173.85 3/24/09


================================================== ==========================================
4/12/09
Ideazon Merc Stealth Illuminated Gaming Keyboard- ZXP-2000 Black USB Wired Ergonomics - Retail
Total $63.90
================================================== =======================================
4/10/2009
WOLF KING Trooper MSWOLTROOPERBLACK Black 5 Buttons 1 x Wheel Laser 2200 dpi Mouse - Retail
total $33.81
================================================== =======================================


then and a 23" Acer monitor for $200.00 summer 09
and windows 7pro for $ 50.00 2/23/10

Total: $1521.56
So res that my system for 1,400 dollars i find yours a tad over price
Stupid Newegg has to have a warehouse in memphis,TN!
I wouldn't have to had pay tax other wise

My setup (http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1644&highlight=setup&page=11)

[StarsMine]

Invoice Summary
DISCOUNT FOR COMBO
-$15.00
DISCOUNT FOR COMBO
-$15.00
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retaily
$109.99
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH22NS30 - OEM
$24.99
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Vigor Monsoon III LT Dual 120mm Fan CPU Cooler Socket 1366 Ready - Retail
$61.99
combo
Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
$279.99
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
MSI X58 Platinum SLI LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
$224.99
combo
MSI R4850-512M OC Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
$139.99
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail
$109.99
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$64.99
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
OCZ Platinum 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1333LV3GK - Retail
$57.99
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subtotal $1,044.91
Tax $99.39
UPS 3 DAYS $29.55
Order Total $1,173.85

then and a 23" Acer monitor for $200.00
and windows 7pro for $ 50.00
---------------------------------------
Total: $1423.85
So res that my system for 1,400 dollars i find yours a tad over price
Stupid Newegg has to have a warehouse in memphis,TN!
I wouldn't have to had pay tax other wise

That looks nice, the one thing I would upgrade would be ram to 6gigs 3x2gig sticks.

[mag36]

That looks nice, the one thing I would upgrade would be ram to 6gigs 3x2gig sticks.

well my budget was like 1200 dollars to start with when i built mine almost a year ago. So i went with the cheaper kit memory and hard drive and things. Stuff that's easy upgrade then added nicer stuff later i posted dates

[XxMastagunzxX]

Mag's computer is greatly superior to the one res posted.

[ZERO]

He could have gotten a better gpu for the same price... the computer is 25% more powerful as my TV computer which cost $500.

Have you ordered anything yet b/c I can price out a system at any price point with the best parts. I have made 3 computers with the i7 systems so I am very familiar with the current gen technology. I actually priced out a cool sub $1,500 water cooled computer a while back too. For under $2,000 you can actually do a lot and not only with parts but with looks too!

[[UA] Mos Def]

He said his mom is set on this company....so I think all of our suggestions of rigs for him to buy off of newegg isn't doing anything. He has only one choice apparently and this is to buy his complete system from this company right down the street or whatever. All we can do is suggest that he tell this company to build him a bigger computer with better stuff and he is just going to have to get freaking raped on the price. We all have the luxury of putting our builds together and buying from where we want, but if his mom is strict on buying it from this certain place, then oh well she is going to get raped on the price.....

[mag36]

The biggest problem i see now is memory and hard drive have jumped way up in price in the last year.

[[UA] Mos Def]

GOOD memory is still pretty expensive. I have seen some of these lesser companies putting out some pretty crappy memory at a cheap price, but obviously you are getting what you pay for!! As for HDs I haven't seen any increase in price on those....I am seeing western digital and seagate 500 gig for around 55 dollars and most TB HDs are going for around 90 bucks, I just looked and saw a 2 TB for 180. These prices don't seem outrageous to me.

[StarsMine]

The biggest problem i see now is memory and hard drive have jumped way up in price in the last year.

Well memory is at a cross road right now, ddr2 is getting phased out so its getting more expensive, ddr3 is getting cheaper but not as cheep as ddr2 once was.

I hadnt noticed Hard drives getting more expensive though.

[ZERO]

I remember when ram was $500+ to get the best and that was 512MB so stop crying. Yes price is up but back in the day it was one of the most expensive parts of the computer and now it is a much smaller part of the budget. While prices are up it is due to actual economic reasons unlike the 100% increase in SDD pricing that is only due to increased licensing fees. This increase occurred in September if I recall however regular HDDs did not really increase in cost. I just got a 2TB 7800rpm for $135 and I can assure you it was more expensive 6 months ago and much much more 12 months ago. Also I remember when it cost me $300+ for 75GB when it was the largest.

Also is she really set on some no name company!? I think the real issue is she is just set on him not making it himself, in which case he should be able to buy from anywhere that builds computers. Once again assuming he really does not have a budget the best options are to look at alienware or falcon NW.

[๖ReS]

I remember when ram was $500+ to get the best and that was 512MB so stop crying. Yes price is up but back in the day it was one of the most expensive parts of the computer and now it is a much smaller part of the budget. While prices are up it is due to actual economic reasons unlike the 100% increase in SDD pricing that is only due to increased licensing fees. This increase occurred in September if I recall however regular HDDs did not really increase in cost. I just got a 2TB 7800rpm for $135 and I can assure you it was more expensive 6 months ago and much much more 12 months ago. Also I remember when it cost me $300+ for 75GB when it was the largest.

Also is she really set on some no name company!? I think the real issue is she is just set on him not making it himself, in which case he should be able to buy from anywhere that builds computers. Once again assuming he really does not have a budget the best options are to look at alienware or falcon NW.

TR Associates Zero.

It's really close to where I live and that's pretty much why she wants to buy from there. I don't even care anymore I just want something that will run CSS and Metro 2033 :D

[[UA] Mos Def]

Res, I hope we didn't burst your bubble. Getting a new rig is an awesome time and should be enjoyed!! We all just want you to get the best you can for the money, but hey just get what you can bro and enjoy it!!! We all look forward to gaming with you....!!!

[acolyte_to_jippity]

wait, res, where do you live? i know in pa, but what area? because i used to work for this small company that built comps. I could see what they'd be willing to do. the people there do good work.

[๖ReS]

wait, res, where do you live? i know in pa, but what area? because i used to work for this small company that built comps. I could see what they'd be willing to do. the people there do good work.

A company called TR Associates, never heard of them until a few days ago.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

A company called TR Associates, never heard of them until a few days ago.

...you live at TR Associates?

i mean what region of PA, near doylestown/lansdale?

[๖ReS]

...you live at TR Associates?

i mean what region of PA, near doylestown/lansdale?

Hahahah sorry thats the company :P

I live in Clarks Summit, its like 10 minutes from Scranton.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

yech.

never mind. way too far north. almost as far from allentown as i am...but on opposite sides.

[mag36]

Well it sounds like we should turn this into a PC Talk thread.

Anyways Im looking to build my dad a new pc around 500 dollars. ill probably use his 200gb sata HDD and the DvD RW drive out of it. Hes not a huge pc gamer but he does play the Virtual World game "SecondLife" (yeah I know:banghead:) and CnC games. Anyways if anyone knows some good deals or like to share some ideas for a build. Im seeing what i can build on newegg currently and show you what i come up with later

[XxMastagunzxX]

Res if you get that pc then you just let that company fuck your mom in the ass AND taker her money.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

yeah. i'd newegg that sucker, and build a real pc

[StarsMine]

Well it sounds like we should turn this into a PC Talk thread.

Anyways Im looking to build my dad a new pc around 500 dollars. ill probably use his 200gb sata HDD and the DvD RW drive out of it. Hes not a huge pc gamer but he does play the Virtual World game "SecondLife" (yeah I know:banghead:) and CnC games. Anyways if anyone knows some good deals or like to share some ideas for a build. Im seeing what i can build on newegg currently and show you what i come up with later

well I gave it a shot, at that price you could probably go to the store and buy a workstation.
the 500 gb HD was 10$ more then the 250gb so....

[mag36]

well I gave it a shot, at that price you could probably go to the store and buy a workstation.
the 500 gb HD was 10$ more then the 250gb so....

you forgot on big thing the graphics card?

And like I said I can probably use the HDD and the DVD RW drive out of his current compaq for the time being.
I got this so far

[StarsMine]

you forgot on big thing the graphics card?



I did not, its integrated. You dont need much gpu power for the games he is playing

Its an ATI Radeon HD 4200 GPU

[mag36]

I did not, its integrated. You dont need much gpu power for the games he is playing

Its an ATI Radeon HD 4200 GPU

Well that's just it secondlife takes more then you think. We have an ATI 4350 card in it and it still runs like shit. So it going to need to be stronger GPU then that

[StarsMine]

Well that's just it secondlife takes more then you think. We have an ATI 4350 card in it and it still runs like shit. So it going to need to be stronger GPU then that

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-785g-chipset,2381-11.html

For integrated this is rather powerfull

[Cal45]

Do NOT get Vista are you out of your mind?! Windows 7 FTW!

[StarsMine]

Do NOT get Vista are you out of your mind?! Windows 7 FTW!

sp2 isnt that bad.

[XxMastagunzxX]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u145/Mastagunz/ownage-1.png?t=1267596049

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Do NOT get Vista are you out of your mind?! Windows 7 FTW!

actually, i can't stand 7...at all. it blows. horribly. vista''s incredible. i've had no problems with it at all except for the windows update thing and i don't blame vista for that one. it's seriously the best os i've ever used. going from xp to vista wasn't as big a jump as 98 to xp (don't count ME...ever) but it's still better.

7 seriously sucks.

[OMGBEARS]

Windows 7 is one of the most beautiful operating systems I've run with since 98. XP had more kinks in it when I first booted it up than 7. And any issue I have I'm on the phone with MSoft and I have a patch downloaded in 20 minutes that fixes whatever is up.

TL;DR - http://www.spaceg.com/multimedia/collection/YTMND%20dot%20com/you%20shut%20your%20mouth%20when%20Billy%20Mays%20 is%20takling.jpg

[mag36]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u145/Mastagunz/ownage-1.png?t=1267596049

Gunz thats NOT bad. For a i5 that's good and and Free shipping and no tax from Tigerdirect for me

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Windows 7 is one of the most beautiful operating systems I've run with since 98. XP had more kinks in it when I first booted it up than 7. And any issue I have I'm on the phone with MSoft and I have a patch downloaded in 20 minutes that fixes whatever is up.



to each his own bears. i can't stand 7.

[ZERO]

What exactly is wrong with 7? This is the best OS since 98 the release was even better than XP was when it came out. I am not a fan of the different interface as I liked XP but it took only a few min to get everything looking and working the way I wanted it to.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

it really...it;s just me i guess. i really didn't feel like it was good.

like i said though, to each his own.

[๖ReS]

Gunz thats NOT bad. For a i5 that's good and and Free shipping and no tax from Tigerdirect for me

wow that's so cheap. Holy fuck why doesn't my mom listen to a word I say... It's this TR Associates place or NO place :|

[XxMastagunzxX]

Anybody who says Windows 7 blows is obviously jealous/biased because they don't have it or haven't used it much. :plzdie:

[acolyte_to_jippity]

i have though. i used it a good bit and didn't like it.

[StarsMine]

wow that's so cheap. Holy fuck why doesn't my mom listen to a word I say... It's this TR Associates place or NO place :|

That really sucks show her the picture mag put up, I doubt that would change her mind but it might make her second guess herself.

[๖ReS]

That really sucks show her the picture mag put up, I doubt that would change her mind but it might make her second guess herself.

Good idea.

[mag36]

There's no dvd drive or hard drive, your talking maybe 100 bucks more.

But you can probably still use the shit off your old one as well.


And if my buddy is still selling I can get you Windows 7 pro 64bit License keys for 60 bucks, And Im pretty sure its retail not the oem version

[ZERO]

wow that's so cheap. Holy fuck why doesn't my mom listen to a word I say... It's this TR Associates place or NO place :|

You should tell her that there is a place down the street that makes cars on the cheep too they are only $45,000 and are re branded midgets.

Why you would by something without any idea of quality or regard for cost is beyond reason. However, I am thinking about opening up a store selling random shit near your house so your mom can buy it and make me millions b/c apparently the only thing she cares about is that it is made near buy.

On the up side at least your getting a new computer. Too bad that your mom is gullible to sales men but not reasonable with her family...

[๖ReS]

You should tell her that there is a place down the street that makes cars on the cheep too they are only $45,000 and are re branded midgets.

Why you would by something without any idea of quality or regard for cost is beyond reason. However, I am thinking about opening up a store selling random shit near your house so your mom can buy it and make me millions b/c apparently the only thing she cares about is that it is made near buy.

On the up side at least your getting a new computer. Too bad that your mom is gullible to sales men but not reasonable with her family...

Yep :/

[ZERO]

I assume he does not like the 7 interface and I also do not like it which is why I turned it off. I think that maybe he does not realize that he can turn those parts off and it is not actually a problem. This is like someone not liking a house b/c they did not like the color of one of the rooms. Well yea the color may be bad but you can change it to what ever you want... except in this case it is free to change it

[๖ReS]

Here are the full specifications for my new computer.

Mid-Tower Case with 500w Power Supply
Intel i5 Series motherboard
Intel i5 series 3.2 GHz Processor
4 GB of 800 MHz DDR3 Memory
1 TRB SATA HD
250 TRB SATA HD
GeForce 9800GTX
21" Asus LCD Monitor
GB NIC Port
Windows 7
Internal DVD-RW Optical Drive
SIIG sound card
3 Year warranty

All for $1,425

[maynard]

Here are the full specifications for my new computer.

Mid-Tower Case with 500w Power Supply
Intel i5 Series motherboard
Intel i5 series 3.2 GHz Processor
4 GB of 800 MHz DDR3 Memory
1 TRB SATA HD
250 TRB SATA HD
GeForce 9800GTX
21" Asus LCD Monitor
GB NIC Port
Windows 7
Internal DVD-RW Optical Drive
SIIG sound card
3 Year warranty

All for $1,425

1425!? eeek.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

ok, i'm not an expert with this stuff, but that seems really good.

am i showing my ignorance?

[ZERO]

250 trb hdd? You mean 250gb but why have that and a 1tb drive or is that off too. A 2tb drive is < $ 250gb + 1tb.

It looks like it should be faster than my tv computer for >2x as much money and that is only b/c my tv computer does not have a great gpu (9600) b/c it is not for gaming.

But my tv computer does have a better:
cpu
PSU
ram
and the rest is not worth that much.

I think maybe we are bised b/c we do not know how much that lcd was. It could have been really $$ and that is why it seems so overpriced. How much was that lcd anyways.

Also remember this is a store bought system and those are overpriced to start with and with that in mind this is probably not too bad.

I am glad to hear you finally got a new system though :wtg:

[maynard]

ok, i'm not an expert with this stuff, but that seems really good.

am i showing my ignorance?

it's good. but he over paid.

[ZERO]

Yea I actually did not know that the i5 could clock so high.

[StarsMine]

Im in the same camp as that is a good computer but you overpaid

I just saw a dell with an i7 8gb of ddr3 ram and a 5770 for 1020$ i think at bestbuy.

[maynard]

Im in the same camp as that is a good computer but you overpaid

I just saw a dell with an i7 8gb of ddr3 ram and a 5770 for 1200$ i think at bestbuy.

what you do is write down the parts in the PC you want... then just go buy the parts.... saves you a SHIT-TON of money.

[ZERO]

Some people get the money from their parents and are not allowed to make it themselves. When I was 12 I wanted an alienware that was really expensive but my dad did the opposite and said I could have unlimited funds if I built it myself and as a result we have game servers to play on today :wtg:

You can never underestimate the value of a life experience especially when you are young.

[๖ReS]

At this point I dont even care lol.

I just want my damn computer.

That Monitor was like 180 I think.

[maynard]

Some people get the money from their parents and are not allowed to make it themselves.

I'm pretty sure if the average kid whose getting a PC bought for them sat down with there parents and said "hey! lets do this, we can get a better computer, and literally save you hundreds of dollars!" they would more then likely be down. ive never met a parent that wouldn't be interested in saving hundreds of dollars... raising kids is exspensive enough as it is.

[ZERO]

I do not know b/c even my parents have been weary b/c it starts to sound like a gov spending program when you do high level savings. In that I was building 3 computers all for the price of one good one they just refused to believe it. Logically 2 of the computers were built from the parts of one being upgraded but they just concluded it was some sort of trick.

The problem is that as soon as what your doing is too complicated for the buyer to understand they just stop listening even if it can save them money. This is seen more when I was trying to lobby for a program that would have allowed funding for upgrades to my computers in exchange for my sister getting the old parts as it would have been way faster than anything they could buy her. In fact I was not even allowed to have any say in what sort of laptop she gets because they were convinced it was some sort of trick so that she would get fucked and I would end up worth something really awesome. Finally after years of buying 2 $500+ laptops every year they finally agreed to just buy her a gaming laptop. This though is more of the case where your trying to say $2000<$500 in the long run.

[maynard]

ya I guess I see what you're saying. a lot of ppl also feel like the more they spend the better they're getting.... sadly with PC's that's not the case... but yeah... I guess it's easier for someone who doesn't have much PC knowledge 2 trust a main company like dell as opposed 2 some guy who just sells parts.

[๖ReS]

8 Gigs of RAM
ATI 5850

With those modifications I have approved the build and it should be ready in a week. Excited to get gaming with everyone again.

woot<3

[StarsMine]

8 Gigs of RAM
ATI 5850

With those modifications I have approved the build and it should be ready in a week. Excited to get gaming with everyone again.

woot<3

What the hell are you planing to do with 8 gigs!!!

good job with the 5850

[๖ReS]

What the hell are you planing to do with 8 gigs!!!

good job with the 5850

I dunno lol..
I had 6 and when I changed to the 5850 or the 285, they added 2 gigs. Not complaining but hey I got a shit load of RAM now :D