New WCS Race Work List

[ZERO]

This is a list of all races needed for the new WCS server. Please refer to http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2236 for the powers that the races need. This thread is to track the progress of races being made, tested, and balanced. Currently the focus is just to get the races programed with the same powers.




Normal = Not available
Red = Under Development (See notes)
Yellow = Incomplete (See notes)
Orange = Untested (All abilities not yet tested)
Blue = Unbalanced
Green = Finished

WCS Race List


Undead Scourge
Human Alliance
Orcish Horde
Night Elves
Blood Mage
Archmage Proudmoore
Shadow Hunter
Warden
Crypt Lord
Succubus Hunter
Flame Predator
Chameleon
Hells Demon
Hell Hunter
Evangelion 01
Raiden
Magician
Shadow Of The Void
Eye Ra
Nebula
Molecule
Die Xonvert
Beast
Rapscallion
Genocide
Athena
Spider Man
Strider Hiryu
Dragon Fly
Panorama
=Jack=
Vagabond
Vagalion
Santa


For those interested in programing races for this mod see: http://war3source.com/index.php?topic=3.0

If you want to work on a race please post in this thread and or let me know what your working on so I can update this thread. I will change the status of the race to under development and will add a comment with your name and or a link to a development thread for that race if you have one.

My hope by making this thread is to allow those who are skilled in programing to help out making some of the races needed so we can get the server done sooner. It is also there to help keep track of what needs to be programed for the new server at least to enter a public testing phase.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

wait, we're changing from wcs?

and only 3 skills and 1 ult. per class? wtf is this?

[maynard]

wouldn't it be quicker 2 just take existing races and implement them into our WCS? like we did before?

[acolyte_to_jippity]

i'm guessing that there is no sourceMod wcs.

[ZERO]

This is the sourcemod WCS also I would assume that if you added a fifth ability it should work...

Also there appears to be a second wcs mod for sourcemod now called wow mod or something. One way or another we are going to get this shit to work in SM even if we need to make our own mod from scratch. The problems with the ES version can never be fixed, the only solution is to rebuilt it into a different language that actually works.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

i was looking on that link about succubus hunter.

i got the impression that war3source was different than wcs.

and also that there was a 3 ability 1 ult limit. although maybe that was a limit they imposed on their end.

[ZERO]

I have asked about this on their forums but I will say that we will only switch to a system that can work like ours does not even if we half to make it. In a worst case scenario I will create a subform just for managing the creation of an IBIS wcs mod made from virtually scratch if that is what it takes but we are going to get this shit fixed one way or another. I already know that other wcs server actually use privately developed versions of wcs (for ES) and that is why there servers are not effected by the glitches ours are.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

I have asked about this on their forums but I will say that we will only switch to a system that can work like ours does not even if we half to make it. In a worst case scenario I will create a subform just for managing the creation of an IBIS wcs mod made from virtually scratch if that is what it takes but we are going to get this shit fixed one way or another.

amen!

if i knew what to do, i'd gladly help you.

above basic java and basic c++ aren't much help to anyone.

[ZERO]

Source pawn is basic java and c combined... also I am going to try to talk the developer into support for more powers otherwise it is back to the drawing board

[ZERO]

looks like the skills are limited. I will now begin planning the logistics needed for a custom wcs mod. Hopefully with community help and possibly bounties we can have the system made. What I am going to do is break up the different parts of the mod into modules that function independently and work together to allow the mod to work. I can then possibly create bounties on different parts of the project to help attract sm programmers. In order to do this I will begin working on a functional API that will allow the plugins to work together. Luckily I think the only hard part will be creating the system to record the xp

[XxMastagunzxX]

Maybe we should compile some money to hire developers...

[ZERO]

Technically we already have money compiled. All money that is left over after server costs are saved for future expansion and projects such as this where contractors are needed. However I can not hire someone to make something unless I can explain in detail what I need. This is why I say that I am going to need to spend some time designing the way that the architecture needs to work so that it can be maintained and upgraded as needed after it is developed. I also need to explain and design things so that it is easier for the programmers to lower cost and to increase the odds that a programmer will want to take on and finish the job.

[Blackmage]

Sure you can, Zero! They are called college students!

But I digress, thanks for keeping us in the loop!

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Sure you can, Zero! They are called college students!

But I digress, thanks for keeping us in the loop!

THE HORROR!!!

seriously...no. i don't think we should trust a college student with our servers' programming.

[ZERO]

who do you think programed the shit we are on now?... thankfully this will be open source so it is actually fixable. The stuff we are on now is rooted in closed source and that is why I can not fix it.

[mastercheff]

In my opinion the reason why the wcs is all messy right now is due to the version we're on not to be a smartass or anything. I've been on wcsazeroth(no advertising intended) and they have had sucess with no bugs at all ever since they updates to a new version if i could get a hold of the owner i can tell you the version they're using or even so they might be using their own version.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

they run a custom version i'm pretty sure.

[mastercheff]

I remember they had races that were for people lvl 5000, talking about over 900.

[maynard]

I remember they had races that were for people lvl 5000, talking about over 900.

it's over 9000 not 900, silly.:icon_mrgreen:


I'm glad ibis wcs isn't a server with like 300 classes that shit is just 2 much

[Bullshit]

I'm glad ibis wcs isn't a server with like 300 classes that shit is just 2 much


YES!!! damm its would be crasy. And i have playd on that server a few times.. never came longer than lvl 30 or something.. then i was tired of that server.. And some of there races are too over powered

[maynard]

YES!!! damm its would be crasy.

I do want new races hardcore bad though Lol.... been playing with these ones for ever now.

[Bullshit]

I do want new races hardcore bad though Lol.... been playing with these ones for ever now.

yeah i miss some new one too.. some above lvl 1000 or something would be cool :wtg:

[mastercheff]

YES!!! damm its would be crasy. And i have playd on that server a few times.. never came longer than lvl 30 or something.. then i was tired of that server.. And some of there races are too over powered

You sir are a sore loser, it so easy to lvl up on azeroth. The 4 starter races are so buffed their overpowered. If you die 3 times in a row on that server you get pity exp FFS PITY DAMN EXP. Btw there should be betting on ibis wcs. Makes lvling up faster and sometimes slower.

[Bullshit]

You sir are a sore loser, it so easy to lvl up on azeroth. The 4 starter races are so buffed their overpowered. If you die 3 times in a row on that server you get pity exp FFS PITY DAMN EXP. Btw there should be betting on ibis wcs. Makes lvling up faster and sometimes slower.

lol. No bet ión ibis. No bank. No gold. I really like it as it is. And why you oont to make lvling faster? Its great as it is.

And why should you get exp for dieing?? dont make any sense for me

Oh and i agree that its overpowered.. The hole server is overpowered..

[mastercheff]

The server itself is pretty all rounded out how is azeroth not well rounded with all the races balanced. I mean the server owner tries his best to make all the races rounded out and fun to play, its up to the player to earn the exp. The only way ibis will get players is it uniqueness.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

you know, izn't azeroth like, a 40 slot server or some fucking thing?

or the stats are shared over two or three wcs servers?

i think as we are, it's fine because if we had all these races, too many people wuld be trying to play.

on that note, increasing the slots by like, 4 might be interesting.

[Bullshit]

increasing the slots by like, 4 might be interesting.


+1 :wtg:

[mastercheff]

I'd still say more races, thats what keeps the player still playing pretty much.

[Blackmage]

Comments on things since last post:

On Az, I've hear about quite a number of the races being bugged, actually. If they aren't bugged anymore, that just means they have the staff (or time) to fix it.

40 feels too crowded, but 20 is too few for some maps... It's hard to find the correct number for a map rotation. Multiple servers is a whole other headache for players :?

The death streak XP is to stop the whiney people who think: "One person having fourty gazillion total levels means that person's race WILL always win, so how can we get xp?" It also fills some holes: new people who aren't that good, "fun" races such as black holes, people having a bad day.

Another XP variant they have that we don't, is the winning team xp. This encourages people to play as a team to win instead of just going off and trying to get kills rather than doing the objective, since getting those kills is MUCH better xp that the meager bits you can get from purchasing tomes. And that's if you don't die and have to buy a gun in the process.

Azeroth is not meant to be balanced, it is tiered. The tiers are probably balanced(seems to be). That comes with having that many races. You can only have so many races being interesting and unique while keeping it balanced. But the problem is, like cheff said, new races are what keep people coming. Well, new races that you don't have to take forever to play :) Another problem is how to make it that having some of those races doesn't make it unfun for new people to play, hence the free and fast xp they give.

[mastercheff]

The fact theres to many numerous races on azeroth keeps the players lvling on like "OMGSH THAT RACE LOOKS UBER PWNAGE" and they soon reach that lvl and they see another race they like, thats the way azeroth hooked players. I easily could imagine 3 new races for the server.

Rogue
8 lvls for each skill
knife race only
Starts with 65% speed

Active Camo: Gain 100% invis but loses it when shot or gets near people. The more lvl'd up the more less chance or it setting off.
Sprint: Gain a short burst of speed like 30% exra speed when activated for like 3 seconds and goes more and more time and speed.
Camouflage: Gain 35% extra speed on spawn
Kidney Stab: Stun enemy
Evasive Maneuveurs: Evade 15%
Shadow step: teleport behind the person you put your crosshair on . its an ultimate up to a 30 second cool down and has a 10% to fail/

[acolyte_to_jippity]

but all those things you said about azeroth are the reasons i hate the place.

ibis's system is perfect. it doesn't cater to people. you get in, you have to perform. tends to weed out the assholes and griefers. the people playing will help you out, but in the end, it depends on what you want to put into it. now, that's not saying that ibis got some problems. spider man is the biggest one i can think of. when zero does the new version, he needs to put a warm-up on spiderman's ult. something that makes it wait 15 sec. before instantly going to enemy spawn. leave it as no cooldown, and just add the warmup on spawn.

[mastercheff]

Wait what? All i did was post a race suggestion but i do see your point of view.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Wait what? All i did was post a race suggestion but i do see your point of view.

lol. you snuck your post in as i was typing mine up. lololol

i want this race:

splinter cell
(spawn w/ usp and tmp)
20%invis. to start, player model colored black like hells demon
skills:
blend (gain additional invis., up to 60%)
sink in shadows(gain even more invis when standing still, up to additional 20% to bring total possible to 80%)
nimble(low grav, not quite as much as flame pred)
takedown(deal increased knife damage)
Ultimate:
vision mode(passive, see invisible enemies at distance, 10-100 feet)


it's meant to be a completely anti vaga class. they take advantage of vagabond's/vagalion's inhearent weaknesses: they must hear or see the enemy. also, with the ultimate the splinter cell would be able to see the vaga, and boom.

[matthias12]

hey can me dowlorde all you'r racer ?

[matthias12]

can me dowlorde all your racer plz plz plz plz plz

[matthias12]

can me dowlorde this racer Undead Scourge
Human Alliance
Orcish Horde
Night Elves
Blood Mage
Archmage Proudmoore
Shadow Hunter
Warden
Crypt Lord
Succubus Hunter
Flame Predator
Chameleon
Hells Demon
Hell Hunter
Evangelion 01
Raiden
Magician
Shadow Of The Void
Eye Ra
Nebula
Molecule
Die Xonvert
Beast
Rapscallion
Genocide
Athena
Spider Man
Strider Hiryu
Dragon Fly
Panorama
=Jack=
Vagabond
Vagalion
Santa

[matthias12]

can me dwlorde this racer plz

Undead Scourge
Human Alliance
Orcish Horde
Night Elves
Blood Mage
Archmage Proudmoore
Shadow Hunter
Warden
Crypt Lord
Succubus Hunter
Flame Predator
Chameleon
Hells Demon
Hell Hunter
Evangelion 01
Raiden
Magician
Shadow Of The Void
Eye Ra
Nebula
Molecule
Die Xonvert
Beast
Rapscallion
Genocide
Athena
Spider Man
Strider Hiryu
Dragon Fly
Panorama
=Jack=
Vagabond
Vagalion
Santa

[Carina]

No.. stop with the fucking posing kid! :stupid:

[maynard]

hey can me dowlorde all you'r racer ?

go fuck yourself

[ZERO]

What is funny is when you look at the dates on this. If only we really got the races converted back then the server would have never gone down... lol

[acolyte_to_jippity]

What is funny is when you look at the dates on this. If only we really got the races converted back then the server would have never gone down... lol

:shhhhhh:

lets just keep blaming it on the mac-fags

[maynard]

:shhhhhh:

lets just keep blaming it on the mac-fags

... +1