Steams new format.

[Kavinsky]

just a heads up if you hate it post here and give'em hell like I did. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=837

[StarsMine]

I have been using the beta, and the new Steam actually kicks ass.

[Kavinsky]

It's an eyesore for me and I live by the rule k.i.s.s keep it simple stupid and it takes way to long to find that they moved the view friend's list menu to an actual menu on top of the damn thing amongst everything else.

everything is way to colorfully and clutered, its just like the youtube beta switch. Fuctional but fucked up
and as sfdebris said you thank them for shit, your going to get more shit in return so if you dont like it raise as much hell about it as possible.

the only thing I want is a choice between the old format and the new one rather than being forced over to it.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

It's an eyesore for me and I live by the rule k.i.s.s keep it simple stupid and it takes way to long to find that they moved the view friend's list menu to an actual menu on top of the damn thing amongst everything else.

everything is way to colorfully and clutered, its just like the youtube beta switch. Fuctional but fucked up
and as sfdebris said you thank them for shit, your going to get more shit in return so if you dont like it raise as much hell about it as possible.

the only thing I want is a choice between the old format and the new one rather than being forced over to it.

agreed. i want to be able to keep the old format

[mastercheff]

I like new stoof. I'm updating steam right now.

[Clone]

I have been using the beta, and the new Steam actually kicks ass.

agreed... :wtg:

Clone

[maynard]

I like it.

[StarsMine]

The store format is much better as you dont have to open up new windows to view trailers and screen shots, the game list is... simply put. amazing. The download area is interesting to look at to see how much bandwidth you have been using.

There are some nice buttons in the store to, like looking up all specials and such.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

how do i go about getting this

[Envy]

I am still using the old system. I have that retarded in-game steam shit off so it didn't touch my layout /win

[acolyte_to_jippity]

it's crap. pure, complete crap.

[Fireye]

I like the new steam. I'm glad that it no longer uses IE as it's browser, and that it exposes a bit more information about games you play.

Edit: And the reason they did this redesign was to allow the porting of Steam to Mac OSX. Also, possibly Linux. Which is a major win.

[XxMastagunzxX]

I like the new layout.

[Rage]

I don't allow it to update so idk what its like :D

[Kavinsky]

You can not NOT update, it updates automatically as soon as you start up steam.

So you'll be stuck with it like everyone else eventually, I've posted a list of things that need to be streamlined and renamed on their steam forums.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1242374

The colors can be fixed latter with a new skin hence why I havent brought it up.


Here's how to get the old new message sound back

Dl it from here
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14635728&posted=1#post14635728

Once it's downloaded, go into it's properties and set it to read only and then put it in steam/friends and overwrite the new sound and restart.

[Rage]

You can not NOT update, it updates automatically as soon as you start up steam.

So you'll be stuck with it like everyone else eventually, I've posted a list of things that need to be streamlined and renamed on their steam forums.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1242374

The colors can be fixed latter with a new skin hence why I havent brought it up.


Here's how to get the old new message sound back

Dl it from here
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14635728&posted=1#post14635728

Once it's downloaded, go into it's properties and set it to read only and then put it in steam/friends and overwrite the new sound and restart.



Wen my steam tries to update i disconnect the internet. and than it times and what not and eventually just goes away and when i reconnect steam it doesn't do anything. so yes, i win.

[Kavinsky]

You'll eventually be forced on to it like the rest of us.

We are valve you will be assimilated...

[Swifcfer]

I love the new steam, its wayy better then the other one. The 2 things i like most about it is 1) If you have a game with achievements then it shows you them and the ones your close to.
2) I LOVE how you can accept friend requests and invitations in game. I hated having someone add me and have to go to the steam sight and accept now all those things are on my friends list :)

New steam kicks ass dont deny it

[acolyte_to_jippity]

it blows

if they made a skin which incorperated the new elements with the old ui, then i'd be happy

[Swifcfer]

Well i forgot to add this but im on both sides.

I love the new "in game" steam

But i just went on to see what it was like..

I HATED IT

its dumb not as organized and stupid.

Just like facebook changes home page every 3 months its retarted and annoying. but i like it in game

[Jeimuzu]

I miss the easily clickable icons at the bottom and tabs at the top.. Now you need like an extra click or two just to get to some things.. Ugh, I'm so lazy..

And why the hell is it called Library? I hate the library..

[Rage]

You'll eventually be forced on to it like the rest of us.

We are valve you will be assimilated...

YOU WILL NEVER ASSIMILATE ME! :reddot:

[Ren]

It's sleek and sexy.

[OMGBEARS]

I really like the new design!

It's pretty awesome.

[Kavinsky]

Lets see.... heres all the things I found wrong with it.

1. "Library" should be renamed "Games" and remove the games subtitle next to media, library doesn't sound right and it's a little confusing so it should looks like this

Games - ->
Media - Tools - Downloads

Instead of this
Library ->
Games - Media - Tools - Downloads

That way its straight to the point and not redundant like it is now.



2. I don't like the new message sound, I'd like there to be a choice between the new one and the old one in the settings menu



3. The "View Friends" button should be changed to say "View Your Friends List" (I just found out it pops your friends list up a moment ago while just screwing around) and the text needs to be bigger along with your avatar



4. Instead of clicking on your avatar to take you to your homepage it should just have some text there undernieth "View Friends" that says "View Your Home Page" to tell you atleast what it does and the same applies to 3 and 4 in the ingame steam community as well.



5. I don't like seeing my account name on the upper right hand corner.
I'd like to have the option of whether or not it's there.



X. Concerning the menu for the games themselves I'd like a choice between the old version and the new, maybe another option for the new one with the old smaller icons shown here with the same smaller text next to them
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7758/smallicons.jpg

or just give us the option to make it look like the tool section with the avatars of the old version next to them



Update On Old Number 6, I found out how to do this. click on the + button up above the scrol line in the "Games" menu and select Icons rather than images



6. Change the Plus (+) on the "Games" menu from + to Options so we know what it does (yet another case of screwing around and finding out what it actually does by accident) and rename "Icons" something along the lines of old steam game avatars so we know what it does



7. The "Downloads" sections font and size would look better and take up less space if it was half the size of its current font.



8. The "Friends" section of the community seems to be too crowded, seems like it should show half of your friends that it shows now and should say how many friends you have there somewhere like the old one.



9. Regarding the community again it seems like the subtitles
Home, Profile, friends, Groups, Invites and Games should be subtitles in the vain of the Library section, mounted directly undernieth "Community" rather than part of the page themselves.

Like this:

Community - ->
Home - Profile - Friends - Groups - Invites


Games can stay where it is and should be renamed "Your Game Stats" or something of that description and put "Change Avatar" and "Change Profile Name" next to it rather than in a menu that you have to look for.



10. Concerning the ingame steam community
I'd like the option to choose what I see as soon as I open it up,
via a tab at the bottom that says "Display Options" next to settings

So I can choose to shut the clock off, remove the gameplay stats, and remove the news tabs without having any remnants of them show up at all unless I want them to. So I can see more of whats going on in the background with my CSS gungame.



11. The store itself just looks unorganized and too stylish.

the original format just looked beter and felt like it was easier to navigate. I just feel that all the genres should be listed on the right side like they used to be with the search on the upper right pre new Steam UI.



12. Instead of calling it "View News" when you right click on a game call it "Update News" like it used to be so it's not missleading and possibly bring up the old update menu, I personally liked that better than being switched over to the news section.



13. Set the games section up like it used to be with favorites first, divider, installed games, divider and uninstalled games



14. provided us with some valve made skins to choose from for the new UI this new skin screwed up my desktop color scheme and hurts my eyes. the custom ones that try to duplicate the old one aren't that good.

So I hope Valve either gives us some new valve made skins for it (one of which mimics the old one to a tee) or a valve equivalent of the windows appearance settings for it.



15. Give us the ability to completely adjust the size of the steam window like we used to be able to do with the old version.

Shown here at its smallest allowed setting with the new UI
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=1243371 (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1243371)

so yeah it aint perfect by a LOOOOOONNNNNNNNNGGGGG shot not to mention all the games its fucking up for everyone on the steam forums besides the basic layout and options trouble listed here.

[Rage]

I got assimalated :(

[StarsMine]

I got assimalated :(

XD :wtg:

[Kavinsky]

Okay heres how to get the old steam message back:

Dl it from here
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...1#post14635728 (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14635728&posted=1#post14635728)

Once it's downloaded, go into it's properties and set it to read only and then put it in steam/friends and overwrite the new sound and restart.


How to change the title Library to games (havent tried it myself yet to see if they actually listen to everyone and rename it games like it should have been letter this week)

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14646468#post14646468

And to fix the games menu:
click on the + button up above the scrol line in the "Games" menu and select Icons rather than images

then right click on your games and set catagory to set up what have should have been the standard layout


Hopefully they'll fix some of my layout issues by this weekend, but if that doesn't happen theres always skins.
http://www.fpsbanana.com/guicats/426

and starsmine thats not funny, Valve just royally fucked over everyone with a forced layout change that atleast 60% of the community did not want to happen, me included.

[StarsMine]

Really most of the people bitching about just dont like change, I have seen this kind of thing happen time and time again, all it comes down to is lot of people dont like change, even if the new version is better.
I know there are some exceptions (like neopets XD, I remeber that change from way back, just cheeked there still using it :() but that is usually the case, that 60% you told me? im willing to bet that 75% will have a change of heart in a week.

[Kavinsky]

If all those things I mentioned get adressed I will change my tune, but all indications are pointing to the fact that they dropped it on us without streamlining it and without telling us what most of these buttons do.

Hell I found most of the basic functions of the new ui by accident randomly clicking on everything trying to find shit, which is never a good thing.


To sum it up what they need to do to get my approval:


The biggest one
the option to choose what I see as soon as I open it up the steam ingame community via a tab at the bottom that says "Display Options" next to settings

So I can choose to shut the clock off, remove the gameplay stats, and remove the news tabs without having any remnants of them show up at all unless I want them to.

Change Library to games and remove the games subtitle

Give us a choice between the two message sounds

give us a valve made classic skin for it

change view friends in the bottom right corner to view your friends list
so you actually know what it does.

Change the Plus (+) on the "Games" menu from + to Options so we know what it does and rename "Icons" something along the lines of old steam game avatars so we know what it is.


Community should have the subtitles Like this:

Community - ->
Home - Profile - Friends - Groups - Invites

Instead of part of the page itself

Games can stay where it is and should be renamed "Your Game Stats" or something of that description and put "Change Avatar" and "Change Profile Name" next to it rather than in a menu that you have to look for it in.

Give us the ability to completely adjust the size of the steam window like we used to be able to do with the old version

[Heavytabbs]

Steam... you are so new and nice and shiny... I have no problems with you... I love that all I need to do to check the time is hit shift+tab... no more typing "thetime"... O how I hate unnecessary keystrokes...

My steam poem... RAWR

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Steam... you are so new and nice and shiny... I have no problems with you... I love that all I need to do to check the time is hit shift+tab... no more typing "thetime"... O how I hate unnecessary keystrokes...

My steam poem... RAWR

i play windowed bitch. no need for either

[maynard]

We are valve you will be assimilated...

Lol....


rage it's like 10 times better then the old format, quit being a freak and dl it!

[loka]

i dunno if i posted in here.... anyways... get used to it. i hated the old steam since i got it in 2004. it was ugly and needed some modern updates. i love the fact that it doesn't use IE for the browser anymore. i love how it's easy to navigate. seriously it's not that hard.

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[Kavinsky]

The things fuctional, but needs some tweaks.

a few things need to be renamed and rearanged and we need the ability to make the main window as small as we want along with what shows up in the ingame community.

I don't need a clock, I wear a watch, I dont care about the news or the updates I only want to see my friends list when I shift tab out of the game, I mean is it really to much to ask for a display options tab where I can remove that stuff?


and I'm not saying its broken. it needs work thats is all

frankly the stuff that needs work should have been delt with in the beta before its release
I mean all of my quarrels are pretty basic things that should have been adressed awhile ago

[Spasm]

i play windowed bitch. no need for either

I play dual screen, with a clock on my second screen :D. Well I did until my motherboard took a shit on me. :)

[Rapedollar$]

i dont mind the new format but cod is buggy as fuck... its annoying...

[mastercheff]

it blows

if they made a skin which incorperated the new elements with the old ui, then i'd be happy

I agree, when i right click steam on my taskbar i want those choices i had back then not OVER 9000 CLUTTERED CHOICES. and also when i shift tab ALL I WANT TO DO IS SEE MY STEAM FRIENDS GOD DAMMIT.

[Ren]

Basically what I'm hearing from Kavinsky is that he wants it tailored specifically to him. Way to be overly picky.

[Jeimuzu]

The only thing I care about is having to click twice to get to my games. I'll try that one thing and tell you if it works Kavinsky.

The one positive thing about this though, is that it doesn't use I.E. for a browser anymore, as some people mentioned above. (Which is good, cause mine was filled with viruses that I'm too lazy to get rid of.)

[Jeimuzu]

The only thing I care about with the new Steam is having to click twice to get to my games. I'll try that one thing and tell you if it works Kavinsky.

The one positive thing about this though, is that it doesn't use I.E. for a browser anymore, as some people mentioned above. (Which is good, cause mine was filled with viruses that I'm too lazy to get rid of.)

Edit: Doesn't work.. I think they patched it already.. Can't find the correct lines anywhere in steamui_english.txt..

Edit2: WAIT A MINUTE.. No one said those words were clickible! Yay.. No more having to click twice! Kay, new Steam is alright.

[ZERO]

I still only click once as I always used the right click of the tray icon to do anything... however it keeps showing NS and HL in the tray selection forcing me to go to the library to open it.

[brentidge]

the mew steam freeze's atleast once aday for me annoying but not terrible i am sure it is just somwething wrong with my pc but still old steam dident freeze lol:violin: