Hell Demon: Don't Use!

[maynard]

Hell demon still crashes the server. do not use this race until further notice. myself, echo, borat, and rogue have seen it crash the server countless times, even with the recent fix zero did that fixed the classes. all admins should be keeping ppl off the race.

[Bullshit]

thanks for the notice

[Vladninja]

Hell demon still crashes the server. do not use this race until further notice. myself, echo, borat, and rogue have seen it crash the server countless times, even with the recent fix zero did that fixed the classes. all admins should be keeping ppl off the race.

Thanks Im tired of arguing this with noobs... I know Zero tried to fix it... but its not fixed.
I here to for allow all admins to issue a day ban... if people wont change race for 2 rounds after a warning.

[Bullshit]

Thanks Im tired of arguing this with noobs... I know Zero tried to fix it... but its not fixed.
I here to for allow all admins to issue a day ban... if people wont change race for 2 rounds after a warning.

:hail: Thanks alot. That really needed cuase some really dont care.

[ZERO]

Fuck, well at least I know what race to reprogram first this summer... :smirk:

[maynard]

Fuck, well at least I know what race to reprogram first this summer... :smirk:

I was also informed that the weapon drop for flamepred is not working anymore either. ive yet 2 test this, will do so tonight.

[diablo]

so its hell demon allowed?

[maynard]

so its hell demon allowed?

no. it crashes the server. hell hunter = ok hell demon = not ok

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Thanks Im tired of arguing this with noobs... I know Zero tried to fix it... but its not fixed.
I here to for allow all admins to issue a day ban... if people wont change race for 2 rounds after a warning.

i find it hilarious that the clanner's tired of arguing w/ noobs, but one word from maynard fixes it all.

[Chikun]

i find it hilarious that the clanner's tired of arguing w/ noobs, but one word from maynard fixes it all.

it shows who wears the pants in the clan

[Bullshit]

it shows who wears the pants in the clan

Anyone know that maynard is the WCS GOD. there no bullshit about that.

[ChronicVT]

Hey Maynard... is there a way to just remove Hell Demon from server and credit XP for current levels... maybe even replace it with another race... that would be kwel...

[acolyte_to_jippity]

NOOOO!!!! it's such a fun race though!! and i'd love to see it fixed!

[maynard]

as would I like to see it fixed. it really is a fun race 2 play, but if it's doing nothing but giving zero issues, and with zero's time being limited, it might be easiest 2 cut that class loose, and move on with a new 1.

for now all admins should keep ppl off of it until zero decidees what he wants to do.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

yeah. and zero, take your time with stuff, we know you got a shit-ton on your plate, but i'm pretty sure everyone's looking for a wcs expansion pack this summer lol, and where's easter bunny? i wanna be fat and burrow!

[maynard]

new races are seroiusly needed. ive been telling ppl 2 months for like a very very long time now and take shit all the time based on the fact there's still no new races.

and unlike acholyte, being somoene who contributes 2 the community, I think it should be done in the very near future, not waited on, or taken it's time on. ppl have been waiting for ever, and we've been losing ppl due 2 the fact they're bored with there being no new challenges or races 2 explore. adding another 15 races would give new life to the WCS server and bring far more ppl in and back.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

new races are seroiusly needed. ive been telling ppl 2 months for like a very very long time now and take shit all the time based on the fact there's still no new races.

and unlike acholyte, being somoene who contributes 2 the community, I think it should be done in the very near future, not waited on, or taken it's time on. ppl have been waiting for ever, and we've been losing ppl due 2 the fact they're bored with there being no new challenges or races 2 explore. adding another 15 races would give new life to the WCS server and bring far more ppl in and back.

excuse me? wtf are you talking about? how do i not contribute to the community?

[maynard]

excuse me? wtf are you talking about? how do i not contribute to the community?

I see those who contribute as those who pay into IBIS, and help regulate the servers, and you don't. I just see you as an average player on the server. and honestly find it annoying that every time zero makes a post you tell him 2 "take his time..." there ppl who pay into IBIS cause they support it, and when they do and constantly mod the servers and keep them running clean and happy, they like 2 see some changes. this isn't a jab at you zero, I'm not trying 2 say get off your ass or anything. I just find it quite annoying acolyte is going on saying "take your time" all the damn time. ppl who pay and do shit for the community clearly what 2 see action... more so when they been waiting 6 months for something.

It's not that you even saying take your time is going 2 make zero handle anything diff, but it's annoying none the less.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

well i'd rather when he does make something it be quality and not rushed or anything like that.

but hell maynard, if that's what you think, then i'll stop. no offence intended. and i'm sorry for thinking i was anyone at all.

[maynard]

well i'd rather when he does make something it be quality and not rushed or anything like that.

but hell maynard, if that's what you think, then i'll stop. no offence intended. and i'm sorry for thinking i was anyone at all.

I'm just frustrated is all. WCS needs some shit done. we got most the server errors fixed, but we need new races beyond badly... and I'm just tired of getting shit on by ppl non stop every time I log on.

being the "WCS guy" I take non stop bitching, it's getting 2 the point where ive been keeping off steam friends cause I'm getting so overwhelmed dealing with ppl who are mad that things promised ages ago are still not yet done. so excuse me for wanting 2 see the much needed changes 2 WCS done soon, and not later. sorry if that came off as blunt, but I'm just stressed out.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

I'm just frustrated is all. WCS needs some shit done. we got most the server errors fixed, but we need new races beyond badly... and I'm just tired of getting shit on by ppl non stop every time I log on.

being the "WCS guy" I take non stop bitching, it's getting 2 the point where ive been keeping off steam friends cause I'm getting so overwhelmed dealing with ppl who are mad that things promised ages ago are still not yet done. so excuse me for wanting 2 see the much needed changes 2 WCS done soon, and not later. sorry if that came off as blunt, but I'm just stressed out.

it's alright man. chill out. it's just a game. people will always find something to bitch about. i honestly love wcs as it is now. more races would be nice, yes, but i don't play it for the races i play it for the people. i can go anywhere and kick ass w/ human, but i wouldn't be shooting you, or lols, or mag, or animal, or getting fucked over by wolf ( t(-_-t) )

once zero gives us more races, there's gonna be a ton of shit abot "this class is op", or "why's this class such a high requirement? i wants to play now!!"

[maynard]

once zero gives us more races, there's gonna be a ton of shit abot "this class is op", or "why's this class such a high requirement? i wants to play now!!"

they're already bitch that things now are OP and that they don't wana work 2 a high lvl 2 achieve better classes... so it's really no diff Lol.

I personally have no problem with the server the way it is now, much like you. but I do everything I do for WCS for the public not myself. I love the server and it is now as it always has been my main goal to keep it running good, keep the idiots out, and make sure ppl are having a enjoyable time when on the server. the new races would be grand, they would bring in far more traffic, and some of our regulars we've lost would more then likely return. I personally have no problem with the new races taking this long lol... all new races mean for myself is playing them non stop and finding any problems with them, and or updating and changing the rules to include anything specific that might happen with the new races. I just get tired of the bitching non stop though, I fully understand why zero keeps off of steam friends 95% of the time lol.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

honestly, if i were you or zero, and people were bitching at me over steamfriends, i'd keep a list, and add the name of people who bitch to me about stuff like this. they bitch, they get a mark. every 2 weeks, i remove one mark from everyone. if ever someone has 3 marks, i'm removing and blocking them

also, if someone adds me and the first thing i hear is a bitch, they're gone.

[Swifcfer]

Not to butt in or anything but Maynards right. I havnt been playing so much lately because i finaly got eva that was my goal i got all the races to a high level and thats that. I cant even play eva with all the bitching its just crazy. I like the wcs server because its hard to level and i like the challenge of getting levels for new races to play. But when theres no more races to play then theres not challenge in it. I love the server but i would like to see some new races.

[ritalin]

Can we have a vote on what classes to add? I know that final decision belongs to Zero but it would be nice if a list of like 100 classes was made and whole community would put their 2 cents in what should be and what shouldn't and what has good/bad advantages. That would definelty cut down on the bitching and those who would still bitch couldn't blame anyone but themselfs for not getting involved in looking over races.

[maynard]

Can we have a vote on what classes to add? I know that final decision belongs to Zero but it would be nice if a list of like 100 classes was made and whole community would put their 2 cents in what should be and what shouldn't and what has good/bad advantages. That would definelty cut down on the bitching and those who would still bitch couldn't blame anyone but themselfs for not getting involved in looking over races.

the fact is 90% of the ppl who play on WCS, don't know or understand what the server needs. they get an idea in there head for a class, and want it just based on that. there's a serious balancing issue 2 worry about. you can always suggest races when we're looking 2 add them, but zero does the actual picking 2 help keep the server regulated and balanced. but like I said, suggestions are always allowed and looked over. but there's no release time factor on new races, so I wouldn't worry about it yet.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

the thing that makes ibis so much better than all the other wcs servers is our balancing lets face it, you have 4 "power races", these are the ones everyone thinks are really strong no matter what. vaga and vaga, eva and molecule. i've heard the most bitching about those. however, each can be easily countered with other races, most notably athena, and shadowhunter. each race was chosen because it could be countered, and wouldn't act as a be-all end-all type race.

any decisions zero makes regarding new races must be carefully considered to ensure that they aren't eeither a) overpowered w/out a good counter, or b) just like an existing one but "better"

[ZERO]

honestly, if i were you or zero, and people were bitching at me over steamfriends, i'd keep a list, and add the name of people who bitch to me about stuff like this. they bitch, they get a mark. every 2 weeks, i remove one mark from everyone. if ever someone has 3 marks, i'm removing and blocking them

also, if someone adds me and the first thing i hear is a bitch, they're gone.

Even the SBII does not have the computational ability to record numbers of that magnitude!

Also the real big problem is that there really are no good races available that I do not already have and so anything "new" that is going to be any good needs to be custom made and that takes a lot of time. Mainly I got to learn a lot of code for it and really be in the mood to code becuase making a race is an all day event. Basically I can construct the logic for the program in advanced in my head and then if I can just get a solid 20 hours I can learn the code I need to write it and punch it out. Maybe I can get one done in the next few weeks so that at least we got something new but first I really do need to just reprogram the hells from scratch so that it works.

[maynard]

even if there isn't any really great ones out there, there must be something worth adding 2 the server. even a couple more just generic classes would be awesome till we can get unique ones.

I thought we can use existing code though from the like hundreds of other races that exist, if we can there's gotta be something out there worth adding.

[ritalin]

I agree, theres got to be a couple of races that already excist and could be added. I mean there are 100s of them on difrent servers just unbalanced, can't you take an existing race and just modify it so it fits the server and balances out others?