Perma banned Hallwagner...

[alex_mamaroneck]

Perma banned Hallwagner for disrespecting admin and for all the constant racial slurs he said throughout the gameplay.

he called me a spic and told me to go back to mexico. he encourages people to talk like he does in a racial matter and i can no longer let him do that to the zombie mod server.

STEAM_0:0:8340862

if i have to give up my admin or my account to get him banned from the server then i'll do it.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

he is incredibly racist in game.

[Rage]

Wow i never knew alex had a forum account... go figure.

And ya, he deserves it

[hallwagner]

Perma banned Hallwagner for disrespecting admin and for all the constant racial slurs he said throughout the gameplay.

he called me a spic and told me to go back to mexico. he encourages people to talk like he does in a racial matter and i can no longer let him do that to the zombie mod server.

STEAM_0:0:8340862

if i have to give up my admin or my account to get him banned from the server then i'll do it.

well....i was totally wrong in what i did, but youve said nothing b4, or anything to the guy making a racist joke AT THE SAME TIME. i would serve a ban. but perma is kinda ridiculous. sounds like ur admin abusing now. two wrongs dont make a right.

[Fireye]

well....i was totally wrong in what i did, but youve said nothing b4, or anything to the guy making a racist joke AT THE SAME TIME. i would serve a ban. but perma is kinda ridiculous. sounds like ur admin abusing now. two wrongs dont make a right.

Hallwagner. You're an admin. RACISM IS NOT ALLOWED ON IBIS SERVERS. You CAN NOT allow that shit.

[Rage]

Hall you can't keep apologizing for shit you do and expect people to act like it never happened. Seriously grow the fuck up.

[Mrs. Xen_Warrior]

I heard him say it and my jaw kind of hit the floor, LOL I knew Alex was going to ban him.

I understand that hes just joking but;

1. Some people really take it offensive

and

2. It's not good for an admin to be being racist when we try and be strict about no racism on the servers. He starts doing it and then the other players think it's ok.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

racism is supposed to be pretty much zero tolerance. even if you're best friends with someone, have known them forever, etc...and you call then a nigga in server, you get one warning and then youre gone. admins are held to a higher standard. they shouldn't get any warning. you're supposed to know the rules, because you're supposed to enforce the rules.

[Mrs. Xen_Warrior]

racism is supposed to be pretty much zero tolerance. even if you're best friends with someone, have known them forever, etc...and you call then a nigga in server, you get one warning and then youre gone. admins are held to a higher standard. they shouldn't get any warning. you're supposed to know the rules, because you're supposed to enforce the rules.

Agreed.

[Christmas]

Wow and people don't decide to comment on the fact YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO BAN ADMINS?

Seriously, if Hall is doing something, post a demo or logs or something to prove it.

Don't be a fucking idiot and perma ban the guy. That puts your own adminship in danger and you don't have to in order to get rid of a player.

And to top it all off you don't perma ban people for racism anyway. Read the rulebook some time.

This is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

[KɅΞW]

I think Alex did it because nothing was being done. But if you want demos, I'll try to post some later today or tomorrow.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Wow and people don't decide to comment on the fact YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO BAN ADMINS?

Seriously, if Hall is doing something, post a demo or logs or something to prove it.

Don't be a fucking idiot and perma ban the guy. That puts your own adminship in danger and you don't have to in order to get rid of a player.

And to top it all off you don't perma ban people for racism anyway. Read the rulebook some time.

This is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

dude, i agree. alex took action he shouldn't have. he should have demo'ed and reported through the channels, but i also have to give him props. he came right out and admitted it. he's accepting responsibility for what he did, what he thought was right.

hall, let me mention a name you might remember. you're reminding me of him something fierce. dog brother. when he did shit, he always agreed he broke the rules. always agreed that he shouldn't have. always apologized and always did it again

[Mrs. Xen_Warrior]

dude, i agree. alex took action he shouldn't have. he should have demo'ed and reported through the channels, but i also have to give him props. he came right out and admitted it. he's accepting responsibility for what he did, what he thought was right.

hall, let me mention a name you might remember. you're reminding me of him something fierce. dog brother. when he did shit, he always agreed he broke the rules. always agreed that he shouldn't have. always apologized and always did it again

I think what it comes down to we should have been doing a demo 24-7 everytime he was on LOL

After he got warned he slowed down some with the abusing but then, like what happended earlier, he just randomly spurts out some crap haha.

[alex_mamaroneck]

@ Christmas

Perhaps you should think twice before calling me a fucking idiot. you should scroll up and see what i posted and not only read the title,

"...if i have to give up my admin or my account to get him banned from the server then i'll do it."

Perhaps you should play the zombie mod more often to see and hear what i'm talking about.
Hallwagner was warned several times but never corrected himself or other players. he would change maps even when he's not senior admin. his admin abuse is slim but his mouth is off the chart.
I took action right after he called me those names to prevent others who heard him thinking its ok to say racial slurs or comments. What would you do? sure if you are close to the owner of the server you'd get him ban in a second. i don't know the owner. i can't even get in touch with him. all i want is to play a server that is respectful and fair game play. that is the reason why i'm admin to help the server to fulfill its rules. some Players come to me when they need help on other ibis server such as reseting, getting rid of hackers or mic spammers ect. But none of my credibility is noticed. i wish you be softer on your comments and understand why i did that.

These are my demos:

http://www.mediafire.com/?ymgr51nmzrd

http://www.mediafire.com/?hzyyyej3odu

http://www.mediafire.com/?mi3yjy2wne3

http://www.mediafire.com/?ntzr3cd1gza

http://www.mediafire.com/?yqizjmuzkud

http://www.mediafire.com/?jjdymuhjqlh

[Nemesis]

@ Christmas

Perhaps you should think twice before calling me a fucking idiot. you should scroll up and see what i posted and not only read the title,

"...if i have to give up my admin or my account to get him banned from the server then i'll do it."

Perhaps you should play the zombie mod more often to see and hear what i'm talking about.
Hallwagner was warned several times but never corrected himself or other players. he would change maps even when he's not senior admin. his admin abuse is slim but his mouth is off the chart.
I took action right after he called me those names to prevent others who heard him thinking its ok to say racial slurs or comments. What would you do? sure if you are close to the owner of the server you'd get him ban in a second. i don't know the owner. i can't even get in touch with him. all i want is to play a server that is respectful and fair game play. that is the reason why i'm admin to help the server to fulfill its rules. some Players come to me when they need help on other ibis server such as reseting, getting rid of hackers or mic spammers ect. But none of my credibility is noticed. i wish you be softer on your comments and understand why i did that.


You may have done the right thing, but you did it in the wrong way, and unfortunatly thats all the higher ups usually look at, not the good you did, but the wrong way it was done.

he may be unbanned simply because of the way you went about it.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

You may have done the right thing, but you did it in the wrong way, and unfortunatly thats all the higher ups usually look at, not the good you did, but the wrong way it was done.

he may be unbanned simply because of the way you went about it.

i'd expect him to. hall's a good guy. i enjoy playing in game w/ him. it's just that since he got a mic and admin, he's been out of control. hopefully this time he'll actually chill

[KɅΞW]

i'd expect him to. hall's a good guy. i enjoy playing in game w/ him. it's just that since he got a mic and admin, he's been out of control. hopefully this time he'll actually chill

Yes, he was a fun guy to play it and like you said, he's been out of control since he got a mic and admin. With that being said, he continues to break the ToS after being warned by several admins. I know he paid $11 for admin like everyone else, but a guy like him is not fitted to be an admin. I've lost my hope that "he'll finally chill" because I don't believe that he can or will. I mean, if you are on the server and got on his bad side, whether you are just regular player or an admin, everytime he say you name will almost certainly end with (please excuse my language) "fucking faggot, jew, jewbag, nigger, mexican, spic" or whatever he's in the mood for at that time. On the forums, if anyone spoke out against him, it would start off with him accusing or say that other admins does it also. If that didn't work, he'd act like he's just a kid and didn't know any better. His last card is...well, Rage already said this but I'll just remind you guys, "Hall you can't keep apologizing for shit you do and expect people to act like it never happened". Yes, he would resort to apologize and hope for people to forget, then he'll go right back at it again. To be honest, this kind of behavior from a "grown up" really disgusts me.

[Fireye]

His admin should be stripped, in my opinion, but he shouldn't be banned. If he continues to violate the TOS, he could then be punished as a normal player.

Not that my opinion matters.

[Hitman]

He just had some of his admin powers removed because of constant abuse and complaints and he still does 6his shit? im sorry its remove his admin for good and a weeks ban.

[Vladninja]

He just had some of his admin powers removed because of constant abuse and complaints and he still does 6his shit? im sorry its remove his admin for good and a weeks ban.

+1.... I have already messaged Zero about this issue (with a link to this thread). Hopefully we will get a response later today on this matter.

I have to say Christmas is right you should never ban another admin... but that being said...
I also agree with cloud hopefully his admin will be stripped for good and he should serve at least a week ban...
if he comes back and his actions continue then we look at increasing the ban or making it permanent.

[hallwagner]

Hall you can't keep apologizing for shit you do and expect people to act like it never happened. Seriously grow the fuck up.

i dont expect people to act like it never happened. i expect people to not accuse me of shit that didnt happen, or over react to the stuff that does happen. i know someone will say "dont try and look like the victim here" or some stupid shit like that, but in reality, i am a victim of sorts, and also a instigator. but that doesnt mean i havent been wronged

[hallwagner]

dude, i agree. alex took action he shouldn't have. he should have demo'ed and reported through the channels, but i also have to give him props. he came right out and admitted it. he's accepting responsibility for what he did, what he thought was right.

hall, let me mention a name you might remember. you're reminding me of him something fierce. dog brother. when he did shit, he always agreed he broke the rules. always agreed that he shouldn't have. always apologized and always did it again

am i dogbrother? no, dogbrother was a fucking nutcase. and just cuz i got a fuckton of admin abuse threads doesnt mean i should have my admin taken away. out of 6 or so "admin abuse threads" ive gotten against me 3 were fake or had no logical arguement. how am supposed to react when im accused of shit by players that i rightfully banned, and an admin who seems like hes out to get me for some reason? stress and false accusations are not easy things to deal with. i know i reacted poorly, but my god take a look at the details of the situation. i will understand if my admin gets taken away, but a ban, especially a permaban, is totally fucked and unreasonable.

[SCRIBBLE]

Why is hallwanger still here? Over the past two weeks I've seen several threads about hallwanger admin abusing, etc.

Who the fuck keeps giving this kid a second chance? Are you really going to let him walk over everyone and the servers just because he can dish out a lousy $11?

I started supporting IBIS because I understood it had standards, but this situation proves otherwise.

@hall - You deserve everything that has or will happen to you regarding this situation. You repeatedly disobey rules everyone else has no problem following. Power trip? Yes.

[inthebutt]

see this is what I mean by half the new players on IBIS act like little bitches.

this thread is closed for ZERO to review.

[Jeimuzu]

see this is what I mean by half the new players on IBIS act like little bitches.

One day I'm gone.. ONE DAY.

[ZERO]

Yea, apparently I can not take off for a BBQ for a day either...

So what I got here is an admin breaking the rules being punished by an admin who breaks the rules to punish him and now I can:

Punish both of them
Punish one of them
Let the two wrongs negate each other.

So first of all, WTF where both of you thinking. Hall you know you can not act like this and alex you should know that you can not ban other admins. Rather than add even more punishment here I am going to let you both off. Hall has now served a ban for what he did and if he does something again his admin in gone. Alex the same goes for you if you ban an admin again, DO NOT do it.