Unban Application

[Sl1cK]

Name in Game: Sl1cK
Steam-ID: STEAM_0:0:8809735
Who banned you: Unknown
When: Approx. 8:35 CST 6/2/10
Where: WCS Server - 174.36.201.114:27015
Why banned: Unknown

Other/Reason to unban: I know somebody told me nice prefire or something like that, and I explained that I lagged. I have been today alot. Maybe 2-3 rounds later I was banned. I have no clue why I was banned, it didn't show a reason or anything. I would just like to know why and be presented with evidence or have the ban removed. It would be very much appreciated.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

Name in Game: Sl1cK
Steam-ID: STEAM_0:0:8809735
Who banned you: Unknown
When: Approx. 8:35 CST 6/2/10
Where: WCS Server - 174.36.201.114:27015
Why banned: Unknown

Other/Reason to unban: I know somebody told me nice prefire or something like that, and I explained that I lagged. I have been today alot. Maybe 2-3 rounds later I was banned. I have no clue why I was banned, it didn't show a reason or anything. I would just like to know why and be presented with evidence or have the ban removed. It would be very much appreciated.

Actually the Wall hacks were incredibly obvious. When watching you, i saw You pre-fire 4 times which ended up killing the person within a second of you possibly seeing them. You cannot blaim lag, when you had 1 of the lowest pings in the server. If you wanted to wall hack, dont make it obvious. YOU WILL GET CAUGHT AND YOU WILL BE DEALT WITH ACCORDINGLY.

No demo needed, 2 admins agreed and a few players in the server at that time that are well-known and once admin had agreed that you were using hacks.

Better hope there isn't a demo, or you will be permantly ban from ibis, and all of steam.

[Sl1cK]

I have no clue what you are talking about, I never prefired once. I was running around corners spraying and praying and listening to footsteps as best I could, using the utilities I was given; A good sound card, a minimap, and Scrolls of Respawn after I had been killed by campers. Bullets have tracers on this server and I would see someone get shot infront of me and run around the corner and shoot the enemy. I was only able to "prefire" because I kept good tabs on my teammates and approximately where they were killed at. I used to play on a 24/7 Office server that was nearly impossible to live unless you were jumpy. I never prefired, never tried to shoot through a wall, never had anything to do with hacking or wallhacking. I was having lag spikes that would make me jump from one spot across the hallway or maybe even backwards. I would run around a wall to hide, and end up being killed on the other side of the wall I was just at 3 seconds ago. I may have had a good ping, but ping doesnt register short hickups/packet loss. I was not hacking, just having a good day. You have seen me on before, had I ever hacked then? The only thing I may even be guilty of is baiting teammates, if you want to call it that. I'm sorry if you feel that way Holy, and I will try to tone it down and change to harder races when I am having a good day and challenge myself instead of just dishing out cruel and unusual punishment. I am sorry if anyone feels wronged by me. Also I would like to point out that I was never warned, or anything that I was going to be banned or kicked.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

"i was never warned, or anything that i was going to be kicked or banned"

well no shit. who the fuck would come out and say "hey slick, you're about to be banned for hacking. sorry for the inconvenience"

[Nemesis]

No demo needed, 2 admins agreed and a few players in the server at that time that are well-known and once admin had agreed that you were using hacks.



l2admin plz. demo is always needed. here is a link to the TOS for further reference in doing your job properly: http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=495

If you need any help you can always pm me or an admin whose around.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

l2admin plz. demo is always needed. here is a link to the TOS for further reference in doing your job properly: http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=495

If you need any help you can always pm me or an admin whose around.

oh wow, nice catch there nem.

yeah shitney, demo's always required unless the server is threatened (someone threatening to crash it for example)

[Rawr]

Demo here.

[Perry]

oh shit son.


served

[acolyte_to_jippity]

'atta boy rawr!!

way to have teamwork!! sorry slick, looks like shitney has a demo now. haven't seen it though, i'll look at it tomorrow, maybe

[Nemesis]

yes good job rawr, should link this you holy so he has an example on how to do things the right way to help stop some confusion for next time.

[Sl1cK]

It didn't look like hacks to me. Only one questionable part was at the windows when I kept the trigger down around the corner, I heard that guy and had a general direction of where he was which is the reason I ran right past him. Where else was I hacking at in the video? Where I shot the guy with the shotgun who was using an auto shotty on my teammate that was looking at him therefore allowing me to see on the minimap? The beginning of the video looks really suspicious but I had seen that guy on the other side of the box, he had just rescued the hosties and won the round. I was getting alot of lucky headshots just spraying.

Edit: Even the part where squats says something about me prefiring, you can see that I was around the corner looking down the hallway before I fired.

[devour]

not that i have any say on the matter but from my experience playing this game for years the guy is legit.

i heard everything he heard and would react accordingly if i was the one playing.

[Sl1cK]

The truth of the matter is, even if I were to convince them that I wasn't hacking and be unbanned, I would still have a target on my back; I would still have that awkward feeling everytime I talked to one of the admins; I would feel descriminated against, even if I were to pay the monthly fee for admin.

[Rapedollar$]

i didnt see anything fishy. with and without wireframe.

[Sl1cK]

What is wireframe?

[Nemesis]

What is wireframe?

it lets you see through walls in the demo. it is used to see if someone is following people through solid walls.

[Rawr]

I made the ban and if the others observing don't agree with the demo then I'll unban. I personally think he was shady, but if others don't agree give me the word.

[Sl1cK]

It would be much appreciated Rawr, I've tried finding a wcs server as good as this one. None exist.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

Nem, i do my job pretty damn well around here. I would never perma ban someone without a demo.

Coming to get me to flame you, wont work. I know you to well by now nemie. :icon_mrgreen:

so next time you read what i type, be sure your smart enough to understand it.

Not once did i say he was perma ban, or did i say how long his ban length was. We did it because we suspected him of walling, and the few admins that were on agreed he was walling. I didnt make the ban, im pretty sure rawr did a good job covering this up as i was online playing for the few minutes in my day that i could of.

~edit..

After viewing the demo, i say theres not really enough evidence, but a few parts are fishy. I say unban him, and if another demo that is better is provided that shows effiicient amount of evidence that he is walling, we ban him. Until then, enjoy. Oh and remember, we admins are always watching.

[Christmas]

First kill in the demo is a complete and obvious prefire.

For those who don't want to view the demo:

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/584/wallm.gif

[Sl1cK]

Again, I am sorry for causing such a problem. I am also sorry for taking away from your play time, ingame speccing and out of game having to keep up with the forums Holy, truely I am. I would love to play on this server again, and if I do get on a roll, I will challenge myself along with goto the underdog team to keep the play experience fun for everyone. I despise hackers for the main and simple reason that when I was young playing the original CS I was always getting owned royally by hackers, I know how much fun hackers take out of the game and would never want to be guilty of the same offense.

[Sl1cK]

First kill in the demo is a complete and obvious prefire.

For those who don't want to view the demo:

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/584/wallm.gif

Christmas, the video doesn't go back farther than that, but I stated before; The round was already over, he had already rescued the hostages, and I had seen him running up when I was around the other side of the box. I did prefire, I knew he was there.

Edit: I would also like to apologise for my colorful language.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

First kill in the demo is a complete and obvious prefire.

For those who don't want to view the demo:

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/584/wallm.gif

about sums it up pretty good. Good job on the catch, that was 1 of like 3 things that i saw fishy.

[Sl1cK]

Oh well, like I've already said (feel like we're going in circles), even if I do get the ban removed, my gaming experience on the server will never be the same. When three of the admins think I'm hacking, when I know I'm not, it's time to pack up and leave. I know that I wasn't hacking, believe me or not. Getting the ban removed would only make the admins harsher on me, watching everything I do. However I would like to finish this dispute because I know I was not hacking.

[Sl1cK]

Ok, I watched the demo thoroughly.

In the demo, there are 6 encounters, 4 kills made by me, and 3 of my deaths. I would like to point out those odds right there first.

Encounter 1) The first kill I have already explained; The player, Seabass, had already rescued the hostages. I watched as he ran around the back of the box, kept my gun at headshot level and prefired yes, that is because I knew he was there.

Encounter 2) This was the second kill I made, against player Distraction, I walked around the corner and he was the first thing I set eyes on, I fired on him. I heard his MP5, and my teammates AK47; here I may be accused of prefiring too, it does look fishy in the video. I did fire quick, but again, I heard his short burst and then him spraying.

Encounter 3) The player with the auto-shotgun. (Here I stopped paying attention to names and started paying more attention the the actions.) In this encounter I even looked around, behind me before turning around to the noise of the shotgun blast and shooting him.

Encounter 4) This encounter was when I confronted the players in the office. I made contact with the player in the main hallway (US SEAL skin) and then I hid by the doors this was the point of which I heard the other guy. I proceded to turn on my ultimate (immunity) and run into the room guns blaring. I killed the SEAL fast and kept the trigger down and ran towards the general direction of the other player, I ran right past him. (If I was hacking and had known he was there, wouldnt I have backed up and reloaded and waited for him instead of this display of recklessness?) This player killed me, my first death in the video.

Encounter 5) I used a Scroll of Respawn, after being killed in the offices. I ran back to my AK instead of spending the extra money on another. As I was reloading I heard an M4 Silencer, and I started to walk so I could hear more effiecently. (Would a wallhacker have to do that?) At this time I make contact with player "squats and oats" he runs back around towards the front as I reload again. I start to chase him and get hung up on a trash can. When I finally get around the corner I scan over the vending machine and look towards the entrance, there he is. He kills me, my second death. He states that I prefired, in the video, you can see clearly that I was around the corner. I state that I lagged, for I did, watch closely.

Encounter 6) This was with player Seabass again, I start to rush out the front door and he is laying in wait for me. If I was hacking, wouldnt I still have had the draw on him? Wouldn't I have walked around that door aiming at his head like the beginning of the video? He kills me, its my final death and shortly after the demo ends.

I feel that I have defended myself well enough. Last night I was on a winning streak, getting lucky left and right. I was NOT however hacking. Tell me, how many other players are guilty of prefiring? Have any of you not ever ran around a corner shooting? How many people have you headshot running around a corner? How many times have you been shot by someone running around a corner? Or perhaps through a door? Yet when you spectate them it turns out they just got lucky. Everyone has lucky shots, everyone has lucky days. Last night was my night and I got wrongly banned for it. I have given my analysis of the demo and what went on in my mind as a player. If my explainations are not enough then nothing is and the admins are just on a witch hunt. I know I was not hacking and that is the truth as is everything in this post.

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

going over the top to get yourself unban.

Relax and it will be resolve within a few days.

[Sl1cK]

As I said, I really like the server, I've been playing for over a month now. No other servers come close. I do not like the idea that I may have a target on my back by you and rawr and others but I don't have anything to worry about because I don't cheat. Infact, this whole experience will cause me to be an active member on the forums if it does get resolved, I mean I have an account now so what the heck, why not? Its worth it to go over the top to play on an over the top server.

[Rapedollar$]

just unban the bitch, if he is hacking im sure the admins on the servers will catch him, or a reg will. its not like we dont have his steamid or anything....

[maynard]

no evidence of aimbotting imo

[Nemesis]

First kill in the demo is a complete and obvious prefire.

For those who don't want to view the demo:

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/584/wallm.gif

thats a nice touch, i like it. i wonder how much can be drawn from it as it's only one frame. it'd be nice to test out so you could pull just a few shots from a demo instead of having to watch for a half hour each time

[devour]

since when is prefiring "proof" of a wallhack?

[Christmas]

since when is prefiring "proof" of a wallhack?

Did I say that?

[Rawr]

I'm going to unban. I don't think personally it's the best idea, but he clearly wants to be a part of the IBIS society and is willing to put in time to do so. If he was guilty he wouldn't be the first to make a mistake and fix it.

[Sl1cK]

Thank you Rawr.

[Jeimuzu]

Resolved.

Not saying you were, not saying you weren't, but don't hack. If you're accused of it again it won't end as well.

By the way, compliments to your grammar. Some of the people you can barely understand them.. izt lk dey tlk lik dis..