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Andrew_Pavlik
07-19-2010, 08:50 PM
So with a growing disappointment over some of the new admins and the growing stupidity of people on the ZM servers I have talked my self into buying Admin, of course I won't do so until I get back from vacation in over a week.

I have been around for kind of awhile now, semi active on the forums, pretty active on ZM. So I know the rules, sort of, and I just don't wanna be one of these horrible admins who slap themselves into spots or give them selves restricted weapons such as an awp(yes on one time taz told me he was allowed to give himself one, and when I told him I would SS it he stopped) or admins making themselves invincible for whatever reason thinking it's funny to run around while zombies try to kill them.

I know many of you are aware of the horrible class of admins we have now, so I was wondering what advice you could give so I know don't turn into taz or a walter etc...

Also, I know this is a been a burning topic for awhile but it has to do with 'illegal' spots, the only spots I consider 'illegal' to cade are the with the wheelbarrow on roy_highway and the pipe spot on hospital. Sure these spots are breakable however with 30 people on that don't even know how to use there parachute I doubt these will ever be. Also, any vent that physically has a something in it but this is rare.

Also, a lot of admins have been preaching about this '2 per tube' rule, while I think extremely fair for most maps, I was wondering how the rest of you felt about this?

And last, I need a good place that has a list of admin/console commands.

Perry
07-19-2010, 08:53 PM
exciting dissertation comrade!

acolyte_to_jippity
07-19-2010, 08:53 PM
So with a growing disappointment over some of the new admins and the growing stupidity of people on the ZM servers I have talked my self into buying Admin, of course I won't do so until I get back from vacation in over a week.

I have been around for kind of awhile now, semi active on the forums, pretty active on ZM. So I know the rules, sort of, and I just don't wanna be one of these horrible admins who slap themselves into spots or give them selves restricted weapons such as an awp(yes on one time taz told me he was allowed to give himself one, and when I told him I would SS it he stopped) or admins making themselves invincible for whatever reason thinking it's funny to run around while zombies try to kill them.

I know many of you are aware of the horrible class of admins we have now, so I was wondering what advice you could give so I know don't turn into taz or a walter etc...

Also, I know this is a been a burning topic for awhile but it has to do with 'illegal' spots, the only spots I consider 'illegal' to cade are the with the wheelbarrow on roy_highway and the pipe spot on hospital. Sure these spots are breakable however with 30 people on that don't even know how to use there parachute I doubt these will ever be. Also, any vent that physically has a something in it but this is rare.

Also, a lot of admins have been preaching about this '2 per tube' rule, while I think extremely fair for most maps, I was wondering how the rest of you felt about this?

And last, I need a good place that has a list of admin/console commands.

neither of those are illiegal. only illiegal spot the servers actually have is red room on highschool

hallwagner
07-19-2010, 08:58 PM
http://www.counter-strike.com/commands/mani_mod/ keep in mind some of those commands might not work or were altered since the update. anyways i havent played with you a whole lot andrew, but i look forward to

Tickle Me Emo
07-19-2010, 09:00 PM
The fact that you actively desire to not be a douchebag admin fills me with hope. You actually might not suck!

acolyte_to_jippity
07-19-2010, 09:04 PM
The fact that you actively desire to not be a douchebag admin fills me with hope. You actually might not suck!

but, he still needs to understand the zm rules. there is no "2 people to a pipe" rule, nor should there be. in addition, there's only 1 illiegal spot (maybe 2, one on dessert fortress?). nowhere else is illiegal. also, the slapping thing is fine. admins always have, and always will. just don't do it excessively, and don't do it on escape maps.

about the commands, look for the comprehensive command list in admin help. it'll give you what you need to know to admin on ibis.

DJ_MikeyRevile
07-19-2010, 09:04 PM
My Advice to you for not turning out a horrible admin, is do you job, be respectful and understanding and most importantly be yourself

acolyte_to_jippity
07-19-2010, 09:06 PM
My Advice to you for not turning out a horrible admin, is do you job, be respectful and understanding and most importantly be yourself

uhhh, ever met taz?

Andrew_Pavlik
07-19-2010, 09:19 PM
but, he still needs to understand the zm rules. there is no "2 people to a pipe" rule, nor should there be. in addition, there's only 1 illiegal spot (maybe 2, one on dessert fortress?). nowhere else is illiegal. also, the slapping thing is fine. admins always have, and always will. just don't do it excessively, and don't do it on escape maps.

I am aware of the red room as well, also money crates? But I feel the ones I have listed are almost just as unbreakable for 98% of the ZM community and there is no need to make a cheap spot.... cheaper. And the 2 per tube thing is new to me as well, but a lot of admins, admins I even consider to not be new have been saying it..... was just wondering if it was something I missed... I'll use discretion on this, I feel as my job as admin is to make the server enjoyable to play on.

And for the slapping, yes I understand it happens for fun and a good laugh, what I don't like is an admin using it to an unfair advantage, this is what I was suggesting.

Mrs. Xen_Warrior
07-19-2010, 10:16 PM
Welcome new babysitter. No matter if anyone wants to admit it or not ZMOD server has been full of more idiots since the update. Good luck!

OnEyEdMaN
07-19-2010, 10:38 PM
neither of those are illiegal. only illiegal spot the servers actually have is red room on highschool

they may not be listed in the rules but they fall under the category V, 1, A which is, if its 99% impossible for the zombie to tag ct then its illegal..

1. 2 per tube, i strictly enforce this, based on my experience having 2 cts camping the tube using the strategy 1 shoot 1 reload, will be almost impossible for the zombie to infect, unless they all work it all out on a train(which we hardly get the zombies to) but imagine having 3 in it?

2. money crate/cade(box with a money texture) i always tell people to not use this cade for 1 reason and 1 reason only, when you're a zombie and you pressed E on it to push it actually pulls. zombie have to be on top of the cade for it to push back, but before you can even get on top of it you have already being shot at. the next thing you know half the zombies are dead and the round is over and you are not even through..

just because it is not stated in the rule doesnt mean it does not applies to it or falls under its category.. you gotta think about the advantage/disadvantage of the situation..

correct me if im wrong but thats how i see things and it always works out..

THE HOLY SH**T!
07-20-2010, 12:03 AM
they may not be listed in the rules but they fall under the category V, 1, A which is, if its 99% impossible for the zombie to tag ct then its illegal..

1. 2 per tube, i strictly enforce this, based on my experience having 2 cts camping the tube using the strategy 1 shoot 1 reload, will be almost impossible for the zombie to infect, unless they all work it all out on a train(which we hardly get the zombies to) but imagine having 3 in it?

2. money crate/cade(box with a money texture) i always tell people to not use this cade for 1 reason and 1 reason only, when you're a zombie and you pressed E on it to push it actually pulls. zombie have to be on top of the cade for it to push back, but before you can even get on top of it you have already being shot at. the next thing you know half the zombies are dead and the round is over and you are not even through..

just because it is not stated in the rule doesnt mean it does not applies to it or falls under its category.. you gotta think about the advantage/disadvantage of the situation..

correct me if im wrong but thats how i see things and it always works out..

I like you one eye, but you cannot force a rule thats not true. 2 per tube, you cannot enforce that rule. Your idea behind it is well put, but i see people fail in the tubes with 3 people more often then you would think.

DJ_MikeyRevile
07-20-2010, 01:56 AM
uhhh, ever met taz?

BE YOUR SELF ALWAYS DUH, BUT HAVE THE CONTROL OVER YOUR SELF TO DO THE OTHER THINGS I NOTED (;

bE RESPONSIBLE WITH YOUR JOB, BE RESPECTFUL, AND BE UNDERSTANDING.

im not re typing that in lower case lol

Rob
07-20-2010, 05:00 AM
Glad you decide to buy admin, and plan to become a good admin, Take example to the admins you play with. You know which ones aren't good. so.
Ashley's a great admin (Xen) just too soft on bans. James always been a good admin. Alex has some tips for you no doubt, Mag36s a great admin. Right now i can't really think of other admins. cause i like, just woke up.
Don't copy me. Cause like.
I'm Rawb. kay.
just keep this in your head and we'll be fine. :icon_mrgreen:

Mrs. Xen_Warrior
07-20-2010, 08:36 AM
Glad you decide to buy admin, and plan to become a good admin, Take example to the admins you play with. You know which ones aren't good. so.
Ashley's a great admin (Xen) just too soft on bans. James always been a good admin. Alex has some tips for you no doubt, Mag36s a great admin. Right now i can't really think of other admins. cause i like, just woke up.
Don't copy me. Cause like.
I'm Rawb. kay.
just keep this in your head and we'll be fine. :icon_mrgreen:

Thanks Rawb<33 And yes, sadly I do everything in my power to avoid using my ban hammer... I just like to give people chances :D Res is a good admin too... and Cal45 but he hasn't been on Zmod lately.

acolyte_to_jippity
07-20-2010, 09:03 AM
I like you one eye, but you cannot force a rule thats not true. 2 per tube, you cannot enforce that rule. Your idea behind it is well put, but i see people fail in the tubes with 3 people more often then you would think.
bumfight. the tube outside. that's a 4-person tube. yet it fails often w/ 4 in it. in fact, the more people in the tube, the easier it is to take them out (after all, the closer they are to exit)

Glad you decide to buy admin, and plan to become a good admin, Take example to the admins you play with. You know which ones aren't good. so.
Ashley's a great admin (Xen) just too soft on bans. James always been a good admin. Alex has some tips for you no doubt, Mag36s a great admin. Right now i can't really think of other admins. cause i like, just woke up.
Don't copy me. Cause like.
I'm Rawb. kay.
just keep this in your head and we'll be fine. :icon_mrgreen:

lol, i'ma making myself known on zm now too. me and holy-heart were in there last night for a spell.

Nicktendo13
07-20-2010, 04:16 PM
Glad you decide to buy admin, and plan to become a good admin, Take example to the admins you play with. You know which ones aren't good. so.
Ashley's a great admin (Xen) just too soft on bans. James always been a good admin. Alex has some tips for you no doubt, Mag36s a great admin. Right now i can't really think of other admins. cause i like, just woke up.
Don't copy me. Cause like.
I'm Rawb. kay.
just keep this in your head and we'll be fine. :icon_mrgreen:

what about me?? i feel.... like my babysitting hours aren't counting....

Oasis
07-21-2010, 07:27 PM
Wish you the best of luck, there are very few good admins nowadays. <-- that's MY opinion, not basing it off someone who has been here for only 6 months - 1 year.

X 1 Viper1
07-21-2010, 07:48 PM
I like you one eye, but you cannot force a rule thats not true. 2 per tube, you cannot enforce that rule. Your idea behind it is well put, but i see people fail in the tubes with 3 people more often then you would think.

Holy you are right where there is no 2 per tube rule, but many regulars (myself included) only want 2 people in a tube. If i am in a tube i will let one other person in, and then block everyone else out. This is because on many maps having 3 people in a tube makes it alot easier to die. I can only think of a few maps (bumfight included) where having more than 2 people per tube benefits the humans.

HfG≈๖ۣۜÇĄŖŅĄĢĘ
07-21-2010, 11:19 PM
Andrew is a mellow dude and ive played with him quite a few times. I look forward to seeing you holding a ban hammera and im sure you'll make a decent admin. Theres a FEW good admins nowadays like Oasis says.