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I'm actually serious that I am kicked for reserved slots way more than average, and I think that it is based on ping alone. This is bullshit. I have an excellent gaming computer, I don't lag, and I can't help that I live in Nowheresville, Canada.
It wasn't my performance, either--I was level 25 in gungame and on the map switch I was kicked for reserve slot. This also happened on the previous map switch. And earlier in the middle of a map. 3 times tonight. I don't know why it enjoys picking on me specifically, but if there is any possible way to remedy this, my rage meter would appreciate it. And I don't mean donating to ibis. The servers being at fault =/= me giving away my $$$.
hallwagner
08-20-2010, 10:02 PM
I'm actually serious that I am kicked for reserved slots way more than average, and I think that it is based on ping alone. This is bullshit. I have an excellent gaming computer, I don't lag, and I can't help that I live in Nowheresville, Canada.
It wasn't my performance, either--I was level 25 in gungame and on the map switch I was kicked for reserve slot. This also happened on the previous map switch. And earlier in the middle of a map. 3 times tonight. I don't know why it enjoys picking on me specifically, but if there is any possible way to remedy this, my rage meter would appreciate it. And I don't mean donating to ibis. The servers being at fault =/= me giving away my $$$.
i understand the principal behind it, but 1.99/month shouldnt matter. unless your a small african child
i understand the principal behind it, but 1.99/month shouldnt matter. unless your a small african child
Honestly, I don't even have a credit card so it's kind of a moot point.
hallwagner
08-21-2010, 01:06 AM
Honestly, I don't even have a credit card so it's kind of a moot point.
no need for one. if you have a bank account with more than 1.99 in it a month then ur good. i dont have a credit card either and i still have a reserved slot. just give paypal ur acct info and u can pay.
[UA] Mos Def
08-21-2010, 01:08 AM
I get kicked out every map switch at least once......It also takes me 10 minutes of repetitive trying to get in to the server on a fairly frequent basis. It is not just you specifically Ren. I have learned to deal with it; eventually I get in and as I said I usually have to reconnect once per map switch- it sucks, but it is what it is......
hallwagner
08-21-2010, 01:24 AM
Mos Def;82414']I get kicked out every map switch at least once......It also takes me 10 minutes of repetitive trying to get in to the server on a fairly frequent basis. It is not just you specifically Ren. I have learned to deal with it; eventually I get in and as I said I usually have to reconnect once per map switch- it sucks, but it is what it is......
lol yea i was playin the other day and it kept saying u were joining over and over again. i was like "mos def's tryin to crash the server!!!" lol :P
What would make it all less of a pain was if there wasn't that one "ghost slot" that prevents you from just setting it on auto join and waiting. At least that way I could go and play another game while I wait or do something else, but instead you have to sit there and click join repeatedly because Steam thinks there's an available slot when there's actually not...
Kavinsky
08-21-2010, 07:58 PM
Just saying this reserve slot thing shouldnt even appy to such a small server since almost all of the time theres an admin on and it wasnt even put on there really for people who wanted a reserve slot.
it was put on there to make sure an admin could get in and deal with some fucking dick in the server and the way its set up now its like theres one too many slots and it just sits at 20/21 the whole time when its full and no one can get in.
hallwagner
08-21-2010, 08:08 PM
Just saying this reserve slot thing shouldnt even appy to such a small server since almost all of the time theres an admin on and it wasnt even put on there really for people who wanted a reserve slot.
it was put on there to make sure an admin could get in and deal with some fucking dick in the server and the way its set up now its like theres one too many slots and it just sits at 20/21 the whole time when its full and no one can get in.
i can always get in with 20/21, maybe cuz i have reserved slot *cough cough*
Spasm
08-21-2010, 09:34 PM
I always get in too. Complain much, donate 2 bucks a month and be happy like the rest of us.
I am not going to donate (even if it is $2) to bypass a flaw in the server.
I would consider donating in the servers ran well/smoothly.
Perry
08-22-2010, 02:12 AM
I am not going to donate (even if it is $2) to bypass a flaw in the server.
I would consider donating in the servers ran well/smoothly.
I bet you not one server runs smoothly without incident on CS:S right now.
Kavinsky
08-22-2010, 02:37 AM
Thats besides the point, its fucking bullshit and even for the people who paid for that fucking reserver slot seeing as IT KICKS THEM LIKE ANYONE ELSE WHEN THE SERVERS SITTING AT 20/21!
basically remove the extra reserve slot Zero, it aint working as advertised and the servers not big enought to warrant it anyways AND you already get plenty of cash for the admin subscriptions MONTHLY.
Spasm
08-22-2010, 03:01 AM
Thats besides the point, its fucking bullshit and even for the people who paid for that fucking reserver slot seeing as IT KICKS THEM LIKE ANYONE ELSE WHEN THE SERVERS SITTING AT 20/21!
basically remove the extra reserve slot Zero, it aint working as advertised and the servers not big enought to warrant it anyways AND you already get plenty of cash for the admin subscriptions MONTHLY.
I have yet to be kicked for reserved slot. If that slot isn't there, then admins and people with reserve slots cannot join. I know this because for the longest time gun game never had the open slot and I could not ever get in.
StarsMine
08-22-2010, 08:38 AM
Reserved slots shouldnt even be doing anything when the server is at 20/21 only 21/21 when someone w/ a reserved slot is comeing in.
Now it just makes it impossible to get it unless its 19/21 and that only happons during map changes, so I end up kicking someone out hoping they have reserve slot to get back in taking that 20/21 spot.
I think a real issue is the fact that when there are, say, 15 people on the server and it changes maps it STILL kicks people for reserved slot. That's ridiculous, considering there aren't enough people on the server where reserved slots should play a factor.
On another note, how the hell is it determined who is kicked for reserved slot? Sometimes I can go days without being kicked for reserved slot, then other times I get kicked multiple times in a row. When I'm kicked, it seems to be when I am in the lead, as well. It's really quite frustrating. People say it kicks the person who has been on the server the least, but at that point people have come and gone and thus they should be kicked and yet I am. So I'm curious how it works.
Reserved slots shouldnt even be doing anything when the server is at 20/21 only 21/21 when someone w/ a reserved slot is comeing in.
Now it just makes it impossible to get it unless its 19/21 and that only happons during map changes, so I end up kicking someone out hoping they have reserve slot to get back in taking that 20/21 spot.
Yes, I can only get in if it's 19/21 or less.
But seriously, it would be less of a pain if I could just click autojoin instead of sitting there refreshing waiting for someone to leave. That's what makes it so gay...
Christmas
08-22-2010, 01:38 PM
I bet you not one server runs smoothly without incident on CS:S right now.
Do you play any other server other than IBIS?
hallwagner
08-22-2010, 02:34 PM
Do you play any other server other than IBIS?
i do, and they do have issues, just not nearly enough as ibis. ibis has had 10 times more problems than my clans servers
Yeah, I've been playing some other servers lately, and Ibis is the least smooth... :\
Vladninja
08-24-2010, 11:29 PM
Yeah, I've been playing some other servers lately, and Ibis is the least smooth... :\
Seems to me like you should spend more or all your time in other servers then.
You complain more than any player Ive ever playd with....
I joined Wcs tonight only to here you complain about lag, the server, and a player you thought was to good (all in less than 2 minutes)... It gets old and tiresome.
If you have any valid complaints you could just PM them to Zero or any member of Clan... but no you'd rather use your mic to bitch constantly about the problems (things that bother you).
After you left I think all the players had a much better time in game.
I'm not saying this thread isn't valid but you have shown to me you will complain about anything (and nothing) given the chance.
devour
08-25-2010, 07:56 AM
Seems to me like you should spend more or all your time in other servers then.
You complain more than any player Ive ever playd with....
I joined Wcs tonight only to here you complain about lag, the server, and a player you thought was to good (all in less than 2 minutes)... It gets old and tiresome.
If you have any valid complaints you could just PM them to Zero or any member of Clan... but no you'd rather use your mic to bitch constantly about the problems (things that bother you).
After you left I think all the players had a much better time in game.
I'm not saying this thread isn't valid but you have shown to me you will complain about anything (and nothing) given the chance.
Kavinsky is worse.
StarsMine
08-25-2010, 09:42 AM
Yea Ren complains but not all that much compared to people like Kavinsky, he often has good points, but much of the time it sounds like belly aching.
Vlad, the thing was when you were on, there was lag on all servers as they had just gone back up an hour ago. However im sure Panda had a bit to do with it this time...
Vladninja
08-25-2010, 02:07 PM
Yea Ren complains but not all that much compared to people like Kavinsky, he often has good points, but much of the time it sounds like belly aching.
Vlad, the thing was when you were on, there was lag on all servers as they had just gone back up an hour ago. However im sure Panda had a bit to do with it this time...
Look this is my fault for getting off topic.
I have no problem with Ren personally she is a good player... I think she mis uses her mic sometimes but that's not what this thread is about.
Reserve slot issues are just one of the numerous problems plaguing the server since the update.
Either stick around and understand Zero is working hard to get everything back to its formal glory or play some where else till things are fixed.
Christmas
08-25-2010, 02:39 PM
Look this is my fault for getting off topic.
I have no problem with Ren personally she is a good player... I think she mis uses her mic sometimes but that's not what this thread is about.
Reserve slot issues are just one of the numerous problems plaguing the server since the update.
Either stick around and understand Zero is working hard to get everything back to its formal glory or play some where else till things are fixed.
She doesn't misuse her mic.
If anyone I misuse my mic.
Vladninja
08-25-2010, 07:33 PM
She doesn't misuse her mic.
If anyone I misuse my mic.
+1 :wtg: but you misuse to the amusement of everyone.
Kavinsky
08-25-2010, 08:09 PM
GG shouldt have any reserver slots period, it always sits on 20/21 because of it even when we've got 3 admins on it, ITS BROKEN plain and simple so stop beating around the bush with this I make tons of money off of the reserver slot bullshit and remove the fucking reserver slot from gg already!
zms a non matter that servers so big that its not an issue but when its a 20/21 server and it sits at that all day so the join when theres a free spot steam thing doesnt work it gets annoying, old and PAIN in the ass REAL QUICK so pretty please with fucking sugar on top fix the fucking server and remove that piece of shit money grab of a reserver slot off of gg already
we're all sick of it AND the gore mod and im not going to pay money just because its broken and you want two more fucking dollars a month.
acolyte_to_jippity
08-25-2010, 08:59 PM
GG shouldt have any reserver slots period, it always sits on 20/21 because of it even when we've got 3 admins on it, ITS BROKEN plain and simple so stop beating around the bush with this I make tons of money off of the reserver slot bullshit and remove the fucking reserver slot from gg already!
zms a non matter that servers so big that its not an issue but when its a 20/21 server and it sits at that all day so the join when theres a free spot steam thing doesnt work it gets annoying, old and PAIN in the ass REAL QUICK so pretty please with fucking sugar on top fix the fucking server and remove that piece of shit money grab of a reserver slot off of gg already
we're all sick of it AND the gore mod and im not going to pay money just because its broken and you want two more fucking dollars a month.
uhhh, dude? the reserved slot isn't breaking gg. get the fuck over yourself.
gore mod, however, does need to go.
Vladninja
08-25-2010, 10:13 PM
GG shouldt have any reserver slots period, it always sits on 20/21 because of it even when we've got 3 admins on it, ITS BROKEN plain and simple so stop beating around the bush with this I make tons of money off of the reserver slot bullshit and remove the fucking reserver slot from gg already!
Tons of money... LOL... Id hate to tell you but at the $2 a slot that it costs. Zeros doesn't make a fraction of the money it takes to maintain this community and its servers.
I will forward this to Zero but I would expect this to be at the bottom of his problem list.
Spasm
08-25-2010, 11:50 PM
GG shouldt have any reserver slots period, it always sits on 20/21 because of it even when we've got 3 admins on it, ITS BROKEN plain and simple so stop beating around the bush with this I make tons of money off of the reserver slot bullshit and remove the fucking reserver slot from gg already!
zms a non matter that servers so big that its not an issue but when its a 20/21 server and it sits at that all day so the join when theres a free spot steam thing doesnt work it gets annoying, old and PAIN in the ass REAL QUICK so pretty please with fucking sugar on top fix the fucking server and remove that piece of shit money grab of a reserver slot off of gg already
we're all sick of it AND the gore mod and im not going to pay money just because its broken and you want two more fucking dollars a month.
if ibis is so bad and you hate everything about it so much, then why are you here. Every single time you are on in game its just a constant bitching from your end and it really does get old.
Back to the topic at hand, the slot is there so admins and people with reserve slots can get in. Without the slot there, the people actually donating money to the community can't get in because then it is full. I have never been kicked for a reserved slot because guess what, I am admin and it functions correctly.
In this thread is basically people that do not donate to the community complaining about a feature that is for the people that donate. Jealous much?
hallwagner
08-26-2010, 09:14 AM
if ibis is so bad and you hate everything about it so much, then why are you here. Every single time you are on in game its just a constant bitching from your end and it really does get old.
Back to the topic at hand, the slot is there so admins and people with reserve slots can get in. Without the slot there, the people actually donating money to the community can't get in because then it is full. I have never been kicked for a reserved slot because guess what, I am admin and it functions correctly.
In this thread is basically people that do not donate to the community complaining about a feature that is for the people that donate. Jealous much?
this. i donate for reserved slot. never been kicked (except by admin :smirk:) and i am always able to get in unless its 21/21. people, just get off your high horse and pay the 1.99 a month. its not like thats a lot of money...... the time u guys spend complaining about reserved slots on here, is time you could be working and earning that 1.99 for a reserved slot!!! durr
StarsMine
08-26-2010, 11:01 AM
if ibis is so bad and you hate everything about it so much, then why are you here. Every single time you are on in game its just a constant bitching from your end and it really does get old.
Back to the topic at hand, the slot is there so admins and people with reserve slots can get in. Without the slot there, the people actually donating money to the community can't get in because then it is full. I have never been kicked for a reserved slot because guess what, I am admin and it functions correctly.
In this thread is basically people that do not donate to the community complaining about a feature that is for the people that donate. Jealous much?
We are complaining that it doesnt work correctly, there is no reason for it to not let anyone in unless its at 19/21 that is 2 slots not being used. Reserved slots isnt supposed to keep people out but let people in when the server is at 21/21. the person w/ reserved slot goes in and kicks someone w/out one.
Spasm
08-26-2010, 11:38 AM
We are complaining that it doesnt work correctly, there is no reason for it to not let anyone in unless its at 19/21 that is 2 slots not being used. Reserved slots isnt supposed to keep people out but let people in when the server is at 21/21. the person w/ reserved slot goes in and kicks someone w/out one.
the server is really only 20 slots. He put the extra slot there so people with reserve slot can join. Back before the update it was only 20/20. If the server was full, us the people donating money, could not join gun game. It did not kick people then.
I see where you guys are coming from, but when the server was 20/20, it was the opposite problem. In that case people with reserve slot could not get in.
acolyte_to_jippity
08-26-2010, 12:28 PM
We are complaining that it doesnt work correctly, there is no reason for it to not let anyone in unless its at 19/21 that is 2 slots not being used. Reserved slots isnt supposed to keep people out but let people in when the server is at 21/21. the person w/ reserved slot goes in and kicks someone w/out one.
ok, it works perfectly. here it is. not quite as elegant as zero put it (imagine a fatass being stuck in a doorway, and needing firement to cut him out lol)
but i think it'll make sense.
the server is 21 slots. the 21st slot, is automatically kicked. what having reserved slot privolages means, is that you are immune from the auto-kick. thus, when you join it automatically kicks someone else. HOWEVER, it cannot do that if you're not sitting in the 21st slot. if there is someone in the 21st slot, still connecting (but not "in game" enough to be kicked) the slot is reported as being taken, thus those w/ reserved slots cannot try to enter.
maynard
08-26-2010, 04:02 PM
the server is really only 20 slots. He put the extra slot there so people with reserve slot can join. Back before the update it was only 20/20. If the server was full, us the people donating money, could not join gun game. It did not kick people then.
I see where you guys are coming from, but when the server was 20/20, it was the opposite problem. In that case people with reserve slot could not get in.
if you have reserve slot and it doesn't let you in, it's cause someone is already in the connection spot trying 2 get into the server, once they're out of it, you get let in right away. most delay ive ever had on getting into a IBIS server was about 10-15 seconds.
Kavinsky
08-29-2010, 05:30 AM
the reserver slot plug in is broken, if he's not making any money on it to begin with it shouln't even be on there
and it should be on the top of his fucking list because it is a consistant problem that needs to be adressed for anyone trying to join the server at 20/21 when a bunch of good people are on and its been kicking good players like curdy reciently, so shut up, stop bitching at me AND FIX THE GOD DAMN MOTHERFUCKING THING ALREADY.
acolyte_to_jippity
08-29-2010, 08:05 AM
the reserver slot plug in is broken, if he's not making any money on it to begin with it shouln't even be on there
and it should be on the top of his fucking list because it is a consistant problem that needs to be adressed for anyone trying to join the server at 20/21 when a bunch of good people are on and its been kicking good players like curdy reciently, so shut up, stop bitching at me and fix the god damn motherfucking thing already.
it"s not fucking broken!!! It"s working just the way it"s supposed to!! I can type in caps too see
XX0wnsXY
08-29-2010, 02:09 PM
the reserver slot plug in is broken, if he's not making any money on it to begin with it shouln't even be on there
and it should be on the top of his fucking list because it is a consistant problem that needs to be adressed for anyone trying to join the server at 20/21 when a bunch of good people are on and its been kicking good players like curdy reciently, so shut up, stop bitching at me AND FIX THE GOD DAMN MOTHERFUCKING THING ALREADY.
Lol whoa there kavinsky. don't bust an artery dude.
StarsMine
08-29-2010, 02:14 PM
it"s not fucking broken!!! It"s working just the way it"s supposed to!! I can type in caps too see
NO ITS NOT!, Reserved slots are not ment to keep people out but let people in.
acolyte_to_jippity
08-29-2010, 03:16 PM
NO ITS NOT!, Reserved slots are not ment to keep people out but let people in.
...yeah. let people that have reserved slot privolages in.
StarsMine
08-29-2010, 03:55 PM
acolyte, the way reserved slots are set up right now makes it so only people with reserved slots can take the last two spots. Reserved slot isnt supposed to act like that
Think if it as the jim crow laws, blacks could sit anywhere on the bus, but as soon as a white person got on, the bus would kick out a black to make room for him. this is how reserved slots are supposed to work.
acolyte_to_jippity
08-29-2010, 04:51 PM
acolyte, the way reserved slots are set up right now makes it so only people with reserved slots can take the last two spots. Reserved slot isnt supposed to act like that
Think if it as the jim crow laws, blacks could sit anywhere on the bus, but as soon as a white person got on, the bus would kick out a black to make room for him. this is how reserved slots are supposed to work.
...no one can take the last (21st) spot. reserved slot people are just immune to getting kicked for the 21st slot being full.
Perry
08-29-2010, 05:20 PM
i get kicked out of the server for the 19/20/21 spots daily. Its bullshit.
Vlad has had a problem with me as long as I can remember (though I don't remember what for, honestly).
However, he has not actually played a significant amount of time with me recently, or he would know that I don't use my mic a huge amount--I prefer to type things unless someone is actually talking with me or I'm playing with someone from my friends list.
Really, Vlad, when I go to the trouble of typing half the time so that I DON'T overuse my mic and annoy people, I think you should find someone else to shoulder your lame accusations onto.
hallwagner
08-29-2010, 07:43 PM
Vlad has had a problem with me as long as I can remember (though I don't remember what for, honestly).
However, he has not actually played a significant amount of time with me recently, or he would know that I don't use my mic a huge amount--I prefer to type things unless someone is actually talking with me or I'm playing with someone from my friends list.
Really, Vlad, when I go to the trouble of typing half the time so that I DON'T overuse my mic and annoy people, I think you should find someone else to shoulder your lame accusations onto.
how is that related?
Kavinsky
08-30-2010, 04:32 AM
Nevermind when has zero listened to his community and done EXACTLY what they've asked.
hallwagner
08-30-2010, 10:10 AM
Nevermind when has zero listened to his community and done EXACTLY what they've asked.
he does that when somethings ACTUALLY wrong
acolyte_to_jippity
08-30-2010, 12:22 PM
he does that when somethings ACTUALLY wrong
+1 my good sir
Joker
08-30-2010, 01:36 PM
he does that when somethings ACTUALLY wrong
Even i will have to agree because reserved slots can be visible or they can be invisible and the way that they are setup currently is that the reserved slots are visible, so stop complaining when there is nothing wrong with the reserved slots and tbh if you keep complaining about it than your just retarded. I hate to be an asshole about it, but thats the truth. :stupid:
hallwagner
08-30-2010, 03:05 PM
Even i will have to agree because reserved slots can be visible or they can be invisible and the way that they are setup currently is that the reserved slots are visible, so stop complaining when there is nothing wrong with the reserved slots and tbh if you keep complaining about it than your just retarded. Ihate to be an asshole about it, but thats the truth. :stupid:
:lmao:
Kavinsky
09-04-2010, 07:26 AM
Hall shut it and zero you need to fix this asap and the rest of this.
normal players cant even spectate suspected hackers without getting kicked for a fucking reserver slot AND spectate model itself is broken too, it kicks people for being afk when there not, even when there actively talking to fucking people and specing the the game.
hallwagner
09-04-2010, 09:25 AM
Hall shut it and zero you need to fix this asap and the rest of this.
normal players cant even spectate suspected hackers without getting kicked for a fucking reserver slot AND spectate model itself is broken too, it kicks people for being afk when there not, even when there actively talking to fucking people and specing the the game.
why dont you stop being a cheap fuck and buy a reserved slot? :plzdie:
Kavinsky
09-07-2010, 12:00 AM
fuck you and your aproval of this dumb shit and your argument, oh why dont you buy a reserver slot, BECAUSE THERE SHOULDNT BE ONE THAT BLOCKS THE 21ST SLOT ON THE SERVER TO BEGIN WITH!
it should only kick people for it when the server is 100% full at 21 when an admin or a reserve slot holder comes in at that time, not constantly kick people when it sits at 19 or LESS during a map change or kick people period at 20/21 just for the simple fact its bad advertising and a colossal pain in the ass for anyone trying to get in.
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