YOUmadBRAH? ibis.a

[Craig Boner]

Was muted for no reason at all, permanently. Banned two weeks for killing him in GG (same team)

Has some kind of personal vendetta or issue. The mute was given no warning or anything. Some sort of explanation would be nice.

[hmdbrian]

For 1 ur ignorant, end of story. Ask anyone who plays GG ur immature as shit...ur mute was cause ur sitting there talking stupid shit about mentally challenged people...i did ask u many times to shut up (had u stoped talking for a sec u woulda heard). the ban, how bout not shooting me on purpose 3 rnds in a row.....o yea not to mention ur disrespecting regulars in the server when they arent even in there talking shit about them spreading rumors....do i like you, honostly no not at all i think ur an annoying ass kid who needs to grow up, your 22 come on.

BTW ur ban is up
is was a 30 min ban, not 2 weeks (where ever you got that info from)

[hmdbrian]

O yea just thought of something too, You were already perma muted up until yesterday in which i unmuted u thinking you would like to talk again....but now i understand why the admin before me had perma muted u in the first place.

[Vladninja]

If you are not the admin, accused, or a witness please don't post!!!

James and I are trying to keep Abuse threads clear so they can be reviewed easier.

@ added: If your a witness and your post doesn't add anything it will also be deleted.

[Carina]

O yea just thought of something too, You were already perma muted up until yesterday in which i unmuted u thinking you would like to talk again....but now i understand why the admin before me had perma muted u in the first place.

i was the one who perma muted him before.. and you should be banned.. and for longer then 30 min.. and you need to stop spraying Halls pic around.. because i talked with him.. and he said you cant spray it.. so dont do it.. !!!!

[hmdbrian]

yea when i banned him his name was mrs hallwagner, and he was using his spray than too. He must have some kind of infatuation for hallwagner i guess.

[Carina]

yea when i banned him his name was mrs hallwagner, and he was using his spray than too.

yeah he have been doing that alot.. and he told me that Hall said it was okay, but Hall says its not.. and i belive Hall more then Craig..

ohh and Craig.. be sure I dont see the spray of Hall from you ever again.. because then i will ban your sorry ass..

[Jeimuzu]

So he was banned for impersonation of Hall? Who the hell would want to be that guy?.. Guess that's beside the point.

[Carina]

So he was banned for impersonation of Hall? Who the hell would want to be that guy?.. Guess that's beside the point.

No James.. he wassent banned.. he was perma muted..

[hallwagner]

No James.. he wassent banned.. he was perma muted..

he was banned, but only 30 mins....shame

[Carina]

he was banned, but only 30 mins....shame

ohh yeah.. thats right..
but i belive the ban was because Brian got sick of hes TK'ing.. not because he wants to be hall..

[Jeimuzu]

Understandable. He should be unbanned by now, however I would suggest refraining from using the permanent mute. Makes quite a hassle for everyone, especially those that try to unmute him, because he has to actually be online at the time in order to do it, otherwise Zero has to.

[hallwagner]

Understandable. He should be unbanned by now, however I would suggest refraining from using the permanent mute. Makes quite a hassle for everyone, especially those that try to unmute him, because he has to actually be online at the time in order to do it, otherwise Zero has to.

why do they have to worry about unmuting him? if he leaves, thats his fucking problem. if he gets permamnuted cuz he left the server, thats ibis's gain

[Kavinsky]

I do remember seeing a tking message right at the begining of each round (about 4 or 5 of them) for nearly every round on a playthrough of blue sector last night with youmad on and it wasnt on ct where I normally am otherwise I would have seen who was doing it.

and then hearing youmad say: see you in 2 weeks and this fucker kept tking me for five rounds after doing so, so it was probably a just ban, so just ignore his plea's and close this.

[Jeimuzu]

why do they have to worry about unmuting him? if he leaves, thats his fucking problem. if he gets permamnuted cuz he left the server, thats ibis's gain

Are you kidding me? That's exactly like permanently banning someone for a minor offense.. Like a single TKing in GG.

The idiots over at Mani decided to add the permanent mute feature for whatever reason, and put it at the top of the list. That is a feature that should be used on someone who is CONSTANTLY MIC SPAMMING LIKE IF THEY WERE TYPING USING CAPS LOCK TO UNLEASH THE FURY, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ANNOYING AND STUFF.

Yeah, it's annoying.. So mute him for 5-30 minutes.. Not permanently. Regardless, this creates more work for others. He is not the only one who has posted an umute thread. If people can decipher that the unban section can also be used for unmutes, obviously it isn't all that uncommon.

[hallwagner]

Are you kidding me? That's exactly like permanently banning someone for a minor offense.. Like a single TKing in GG.

The idiots over at Mani decided to add the permanent mute feature for whatever reason, and put it at the top of the list. That is a feature that should be used on someone who is CONSTANTLY MIC SPAMMING LIKE IF THEY WERE TYPING USING CAPS LOCK TO UNLEASH THE FURY, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ANNOYING AND STUFF.

Yeah, it's annoying.. So mute him for 5-30 minutes.. Not permanently. Regardless, this creates more work for others. He is not the only one who has posted an umute thread. If people can decipher that the unban section can also be used for unmutes, obviously it isn't all that uncommon.
well a permaban would be better. all he does is troll and act like a complete faggot

[Christmas]

well a permaban would be better. all he does is troll and act like a complete faggot

Pot, meet kettle.

[Mrs. Xen_Warrior]

Okay I don't know why Brian hasn't commented on this again but let me tell you what happened, Ragone was team killing Brian on purpose for several rounds so Brian told him if he did it again he was going to ban him for two weeks HOWEVER Brian only banned him for 30 minutes.

This was after Ragone wouldn't stop spraying his Hallwagner spray after being asked several times and changing his name to Mrs. Hallwagner, no offense to Ragone but I think the ban was justified.

[-=NYS=- C.O.]

i dont troll, i complain

You're still a faggot.

[maynard]

and you need to stop spraying Halls pic around..

I'm confused, what rule exactly says that in our community?

you're not allowed 2 impersonate an admin or clan member (basically wear the tag if you arent clan or admin) this guy did nothing wrong by pretending 2 be hall.

hall has no authority on who can use whatever spray he is using. hall is not an admin or clan, he's just a regular on the servers. no 1 needs his special permission for anything.

[hallwagner]

I'm confused, what rule exactly says that in our community?

you're not allowed 2 impersonate an admin or clan member (basically wear the tag if you arent clan or admin) this guy did nothing wrong by pretending 2 be hall.

hall has no authority on who can use whatever spray he is using. hall is not an admin or clan, he's just a regular on the servers. no 1 needs his special permission for anything.

server rules: VII respect

1) players that disrespect others

i call it disrespect....others doesnt mean admin or clan, it would specify if that was so

[maynard]

server rules: VII respect

1) players that disrespect others

i call it disrespect....others doesnt mean admin or clan, it would specify if that was so

lol grasping at straws are we? no 1 needs you permission hall for anything, get over yourself.

the only way you could claim it's disrespect if he's going around telling every 1 in chat he's the real hall and then starts like serious drama in your name. other then that, it's not disrespect.

the fact he's apparently so keen on you, and wants 2 be you id say is kind of the opposite of disrespect lol....

[hallwagner]

lol grasping at straws are we? no 1 needs you permission hall for anything, get over yourself.

the only way you could claim it's disrespect if he's going around telling every 1 in chat he's the real hall and then starts like serious drama in your name. other then that, it's not disrespect.

the fact he's apparently so keen on you, and wants 2 be you id say is kind of the opposite of disrespect lol....
you are seriously one stupid ass motherfucker........its disrespect, plain and simple.

[maynard]

you are seriously one stupid ass motherfucker........its disrespect, plain and simple.



lol, that's cute coming from someone who has no concept of the rules, or respect for them.. hence losing his admin... you can keep blowing smoke out your ass, but it's not disrespect unless he's actually starting shit in your name. I wont further argue this with ya anymore, cause we all know you got nothing better to do with your time, and love arguing over pointless shit, even when you're wrong.

no 1 needs your permission 2 use the same spray as you, grow up.

[StarsMine]

Maynard, disrespect is in the eye of the beholder. From what it sounds like rageon was using an actual picture of hallwagner for his spray (assumptions based off of what carina said) and to do that w/o hallwagners permission is not only disrespectful but illegal.

[Carina]

I'm confused, what rule exactly says that in our community?

you're not allowed 2 impersonate an admin or clan member (basically wear the tag if you arent clan or admin) this guy did nothing wrong by pretending 2 be hall.

hall has no authority on who can use whatever spray he is using. hall is not an admin or clan, he's just a regular on the servers. no 1 needs his special permission for anything.

technically your right Maynard.. it doesnt say that anywhere in IBIS rules..
But by law he (Craig) need Halls written permission to use his pics..
No one can by law use a personal pocture of someone or there property without there express written permission..

[maynard]

technically your right Maynard.. it doesnt say that anywhere in IBIS rules..
But by law he (Craig) need Halls written permission to use his pics..


unless hall has them copyrighted, no 1 needs his permission. you can't claim literature, art or any of that shit is yours by law without the proper copyright or patents.

look at harry potter for example. the chick who gets all the cash for it isn't even the chick who started it lol, the original chick didn't get the book copyrighted, so someone else grabbed a copy of her work and did it in there name...

once again, no 1 needs halls permission for anything. and admins shouldn't be banning or screwing with people cause they're using some pic hall made.

[hallwagner]

lol, that's cute coming from someone who has no concept of the rules, or respect for them.. hence losing his admin... you can keep blowing smoke out your ass, but it's not disrespect unless he's actually starting shit in your name. I wont further argue this with ya anymore, cause we all know you got nothing better to do with your time, and love arguing over pointless shit, even when you're wrong.

no 1 needs your permission 2 use the same spray as you, grow up.

you think i have no respect or concept of the rules? well i sure follow them pretty godamn well for not knowing them and not caring about them. horrible logic is horrible logic. every1 knows i basically took my admin as a joke, and i now follow the rules as good as any1 on the servers. the worst "punishment ive gotten in the last 3 months on an ibis server is a slay...maybe a kick. but i respect and follow the rules

[StarsMine]

maynard I like how you conveniently took out that last line from carina post where she implied it was an actual picture of hallwagner

[maynard]

No one can by law use a personal pocture of someone or there property without there express written permission..

feel free 2 point out where you've seen that.


But its not a pic Hall MADE.. its a pic OF Hall..

so? do you know how many peoples pics get re used on the interwebz!? it's not a crime unless you're doing shit that will impact the persons life and infact come back 2 them. like trying 2 pick up kids for sex or something under a profile using his picture as the front photo. there's no law against someone spraying his pic in a video game...

[StarsMine]

Maynard, carina is right about the privacy laws. You are not allowed under law to spread someones picture around with out that persons consent. hell your not allowed to take a persons picture w/o there consent.

[maynard]

Maynard, carina is right about the privacy laws. You are not allowed under law to spread someones picture around with out that persons consent. hell your not allowed to take a persons picture w/o there consent.

feel free 2 show me any law enforcement agency that claims that, and that claims they will infact charge you for re using someone's pic on counter strike lol... you guys are just grasping at straws. by your logic there would be no paparazzi. the end result, it's counter strike and nothing will ever come of him re using that pic in a legal way lol... also, we're not police officers. we're IBIS admins, we enforce the TOS and our rules.

I'm done with this thread, it's beyond silly 2 argue that some kinda legal matter is going 2 happen, in fact, hey hall, go call the police, see what they do about it or how much they give a shit that someone named "craigboner" or whatever is re using a personal picture of you on counter strike lol....

[StarsMine]

paparazzis get away with it because it costs to much to charge ever damn one of them, some of them do get charged though when a famous person gets pissed off enough

Our servers our based in america and because of that we are forced (well try to force) to abide by American laws

[SCRIBBLE]

Maynard, carina is right about the privacy laws. You are not allowed under law to spread someones picture around with out that persons consent. hell your not allowed to take a persons picture w/o there consent.

You can be liable for using someone's personal photograph for commercial gain.

Where's the commercial gain?

There isn't a rule or a law forbidding what happened with Hall.

[maynard]

scribble[nuke];84262']You can be liable for using someones personal photograph for commercial gain.

Where's the commercial gain?

There isn't a rule or a law forbidding what happened with Hall.

exactly they're taking a law and just bending it 2 there will so it suits there argument, regardless of the legalities that are behind that law in it's self. like I said before, it's only against the law if you're profiting from it, or are doing things that will come back 2 the person and harsh hurt there credibility (like looking for sex with kids), or say re using halls picture for a fake ID or something like that.

craig did nothing wrong by spraying hall's pic.

[Mrs. Xen_Warrior]

All of that is really irrelevant to this thread because he wasn't banned for spraying hallwagners picture and Brian wasn't the one asking him to change it anyways. Brian banned him because he was constantly team killing after asking him to stop for 30 MINUTES. His ban is up close this thread and end the flame war.

[hallwagner]

scribble[nuke];84262']You can be liable for using someone's personal photograph for commercial gain.

Where's the commercial gain?

There isn't a rule or a law forbidding what happened with Hall.

regardless its disrespect, and against the server rules.

[maynard]

regardless its disrespect, and against the server rules.

it's not disrespect you idiot. lmfao.. wow you're thick in the head.

if he wrote on your picture "FAG" and a buncha other derogatory things, you could claim it's dis respect, but he's not. if he's just re spraying it, and it's un-altered, then it's in no way disrespectful. once again, get over yourself.


All of that is really irrelevant to this thread because he wasn't banned for spraying hallwagners picture.

yeah I know, was just pointing out that unless the picture is altered 2 insult the person, there's 0 reason for an admin 2 get involved. or if the person is claiming in text they're hall and saying a buncha shit that would in fact cause problems for him, there's no claim of disrespect.

[hmdbrian]

you are all arguing over stupid pointless shit, none of this has shit to do with why he was muted nor banned...no one should use others names or impersonate in my opinion, just for the fact is a douche thing to do...but ddrop this shit, has nothing to do with his ban.

[hallwagner]

it's not disrespect you idiot. lmfao.. wow you're thick in the head.

if he wrote on your picture "FAG" and a buncha other derogatory things, you could claim it's dis respect, but he's not. if he's just re spraying it, and it's un-altered, then it's in no way disrespectful. once again, get over yourself.



yeah I know, was just pointing out that unless the picture is altered 2 insult the person, there's 0 reason for an admin 2 get involved. or if the person is claiming in text they're hall and saying a buncha shit that would in fact cause problems for him, there's no claim of disrespect.
you dumb bro? yea you dumb bro.....what a retard

[maynard]

you are all arguing over stupid pointless shit, none of this has shit to do with why he was muted nor banned...no one should use others names or impersonate in my opinion, just for the fact is a douche thing to do...but ddrop this shit, has nothing to do with his ban.

I went into this issue cause carina threatened craig that he should not do it again, when she really has no place 2 be doing that.

I don't even really know craig, I'm not like buddy buddy with him or something. just pointing out the obvious flaws with what some people have been saying in this thread.

[XX0wnsXY]

Technically when you post your picture on the internet, you are giving unspoken consent for that picture to be used by other people, within reason. I'm sure that there can be a case brought up if there is impersonation, but that is not the case. Wagner, don't give people your pic or even post it if you have a problem with others using it.

Like the others said, if you want to dispute that, make a new thread wagner and let zero review it..otherwise, it isn't really relevant to this thread.

[Nemesis]

just a note, paparazzi is able to do it because they are considered a "public figure" and therefore have different laws about showing their face.

an average person cannot be shown in and media without their permission as it becomes "intrusion upon seclusion". also if you're providing that image to the pulbic outside of the person's knowledge, that is also illegal.

there's a whole bunch more but the short verson is that it's all agianst the law.

[Perry]

illegal use of another person picture (of there self)
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_it_illegal_to_send_someone_elses_picture_to_a_p erson

illegal use of putting other people pictures up.
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091109151331AAvAIFg

hall took the pic of himself, its HIS PICTURE BY LAW. you use it. Its against the law. unless with express written permission.

l2r

/thread

[hallwagner]

Technically when you post your picture on the internet, you are giving unspoken consent for that picture to be used by other people, within reason. I'm sure that there can be a case brought up if there is impersonation, but that is not the case. Wagner, don't give people your pic or even post it if you have a problem with others using it.

Like the others said, if you want to dispute that, make a new thread wagner and let zero review it..otherwise, it isn't really relevant to this thread.

never gave him picture. he went and found it....cuz hes a homo

[Mrs. Xen_Warrior]

I don't even really know craig, I'm not like buddy buddy with him or something. just pointing out the obvious flaws with what some people have been saying in this thread.

Speaking from one of Ragone's good friends though it's fucked up that he has it as his spray and multiple people have asked him to change it, he only has it on there to be malicious and makes a mean joke about Hall whenever he sprays it.

[nightstrife]

illegal use of another person picture (of there self)
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_it_illegal_to_send_someone_elses_picture_to_a_p erson

illegal use of putting other people pictures up.
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091109151331AAvAIFg

hall took the pic of himself, its HIS PICTURE BY LAW. you use it. Its against the law. unless with express written permission.

l2r

/thread
ok these two just suck as answers since wiki and yahoo answers are answers for people just like you and me. Even Colleges tell you dont use those sites so not good proof.


A Stand for Photographer’s Rights

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Ironically, unrestricted photography by private citizens has played an integral role in protecting the freedom, security, and well-being of all Americans. Photography in the United States has an established history of contributing to improvements in civil rights, curbing abusive child labor practices, and providing important information to crime investigators. Photography has not contributed to a decline in public safety or economic vitality in the United States. When people think back on the acts of domestic terrorism that have occurred over the last twenty years, none have depended on or even involved photography. Restrictions on photography would not have prevented any of these acts. Furthermore, the increase in people carrying small digital and cell phone cameras has resulted in the prevention of crimes and the apprehension of criminals.

As the flyer states, there are not very many legal restrictions on what can be photographed when in public view. Most attempts at restricting photography are done by lower-level security and law enforcement officials acting way beyond their authority. Note that neither the Patriot Act nor the Homeland Security Act have any provisions that restrict photography. Similarly, some businesses have a history of abusing the rights of photographers under the guise of protecting their trade secrets. These claims are almost always meritless because entities are required to keep trade secrets from public view if they want to protect them.
onhttp://www.krages.com/phoright.htm


so is it wrong yes but It was placed on the internet in publics eyes and was placed out for all to edit and do as pleased.

I hope i was still on topic lol the mute was a good choice but may be the button for perma should be changed to a different number because i press one to shut them up fast just a suggestion

[Craig Boner]

never have i seen so many people up in arms over a spray that isn't gay porn

its a picture of hall, its funny. stop taking it so personal carina because it's been my spray for several months and you're the first one to piss and moan about it. close the thread i got the response I was looking for thanks.
also thanks for the multiple (terrible) interpretations regarding copyright law. it's not illegal its funny grow a pair and get over it.

[Craig Boner]

How abot you just come out of the fucking closet faggot and admit you want hall balls deep in your shithole?

honestly what kind of faggot uses another guys pic as a spray? Where and how is this funny?

Faggot i hope get aids from sharing needles with your pre-op lover.

i enjoy horse cock stuffed deep up my ass and down my throat.

[Rapedollar$]

i do what i can.

[Jeimuzu]

I'm gonna go ahead and say no admin abuse.. I'll summarize it for you Zero if you take a look..

Guy used other guy's picture as his spray.. Some guy considered it disrespect and muted the guy. Other guy and some guy got accused for some shit that no one really cares about.

In other words, the guy is muted and wants to be unmuted.