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hallwagner
08-31-2010, 10:34 PM
ya so i need a new desktop comp for less than or close to 1000 $. preferably with 500 gb + hard drive, more than 4 gb ram. possibly an I7 processor, and a top of the line graphics card. any ideas?

Perry
08-31-2010, 10:46 PM
dell all the way if you dont wanna build your own rig

hallwagner
08-31-2010, 10:51 PM
dell all the way if you dont wanna build your own rig specifics please. and ive owned a dell b4, was much happier with my last computer, an hp. i know the major brands, i'd like to know if anybody has any odd or alternative brands/options. providing links would help alot 2 :P

Perry
08-31-2010, 11:02 PM
my previous laptop was an HP. and it literally caught on fire.

I have a dell inspiron 545 with a 500gb hd, 4gigs ram, ATI Radeon 3200 graphics card, windows 7 64 bit ultimate, office...

and a AMD Athlon tri-core processor running stock 2.7GHZ/per core...i have mine overclocked to 3.2/per core.

23 inch high def moniter, NO WIRELESS, and upgraded sound card. 800 bucks from dell.com

My Laptop is an Inspiron 15 with a 2.5 Ghz Duo Core. nothin really dancy but it cost me and extra 300 bucks to add to my desktop. I love em both.

StarsMine
08-31-2010, 11:48 PM
Hp sucks with bloatware and cheep itoms (and fucking bios locked mobos!) dell is the same just w/o the bloatware

build it yourself, and for the love of god skip on the i7, the i7 will make it impossible for you to get a good gpu at 1000$ as an i7 computer itself costs 900 :/

what about other things? blu-ray? sli capable (like buying a second 460 down the line, 460 sli is AMAZING! almost as powerfull as the 5970)

Edit:
there we go, an i5 w/blu-ray 6 gigs of ram, 1 tb HDD, a 460 and fuck I forgot a psu.... Il fix the build later, I need to get to work this morning D:
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/7263/1000build.png (http://img826.imageshack.us/i/1000build.png/)

hallwagner
09-01-2010, 07:59 AM
Hp sucks with bloatware and cheep itoms (and fucking bios locked mobos!) dell is the same just w/o the bloatware

build it yourself, and for the love of god skip on the i7, the i7 will make it impossible for you to get a good gpu at 1000$ as an i7 computer itself costs 900 :/

what about other things? blu-ray? sli capable (like buying a second 460 down the line, 460 sli is AMAZING! almost as powerfull as the 5970)

Edit:
there we go, an i5 w/blu-ray 6 gigs of ram, 1 tb HDD, a 460 and fuck I forgot a psu.... Il fix the build later, I need to get to work this morning D:
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/7263/1000build.png (http://img826.imageshack.us/i/1000build.png/)
yea i have no idea how to build a computer :P

anex
09-01-2010, 08:01 AM
Dell is a piece of shit company. What ever you can build yourself is something that is 10x better than what Dell could ever give you.

This build comes with Mafia 2.

http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2529&stc=1&d=1283346637

hallwagner
09-01-2010, 08:03 AM
Dell is a piece of shit company. What ever you can build yourself is something that is 10x better than what Dell could ever give you.
whatever i can build myself=nothing

anex
09-01-2010, 08:17 AM
Erm. Thats what we are here for Hall. Ignore that puppy puzzle shit.

hallwagner
09-01-2010, 08:23 AM
Its not hard. Really putting the pieces together in a computer is like putting together an 8 piece puppy puzzle from Wallmart.

:lmao: maybe i'll try it then.

edit: anex u cock :P

StarsMine
09-01-2010, 08:46 AM
anex whats with that pos gtx 465? why would you spend more on something worse then the gtx 460?

anex
09-01-2010, 08:55 AM
I was assuming the gtx 465 was good because it was superclocked and it had a full five eggs rating with positive reviews. :'(

You are right though. The 460 is better than the 465. 465 is a pos.

For the same price you can get the superclocked 460 here : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130568

hallwagner
09-01-2010, 09:01 AM
what about this? picked from my local computer store.

motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H LGA 1156 H55 ATX Motherboard
hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST310005N1A1AS-RK 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
ram: OCZ Technology Gold Series XTC Cooler 4GB DDR3-1333 (PC3-10666) Dual Channel Memory Kit (Two 2GB Memory Modules)
graphics card: EVGA GeForce GTX460 SuperClocked PCIe 2.0 x16 Graphics Card
power supply: OCZ Technology ModXStream Pro 700W Modular ATX Power Supply
case: Xigmatek Asgard II Mid-Tower Gaming Case
sound card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
monitor: LG W2040T-PN 20" Widescreen LCD
keyboard: SIIG USB Low Profile Multimedia Keyboard
mouse: Razer Abyssus Optical Gaming Mouse
optical drive: I/O Magic 22x Internal DVD-RW Drive with LightScribe

all for a subtotal of $ 1252.86. i can do this price, just wondering what u guys thought of the parts since i can pick these up right from my store :P

anex
09-01-2010, 09:10 AM
Looks like a decent setup, but you would still need a cpu.

hallwagner
09-01-2010, 09:14 AM
Looks like a decent setup, but you would still need a cpu.

oh i thought i put what i had on there.....wow it was the first one on my wishlist and i didnt copy it :/. here

Intel Core i7 875K Unlocked 2.93GHz LGA 1156 Boxed Processor

edit, for some reason it wasnt in the total...... new total around 1400, still do-able

StarsMine
09-01-2010, 01:13 PM
Anex, protip, dont buy superclocks or factory OC, you can OC your card just as high or higher and still be under warranty

I assume you dont want blueray.
Hall go with a different mobo, you want a p55 chipset not h55, why? so you can get a second 460 down the line. also BUILD IT YOURSELF!

also do you really wany yo go $400 over budget? with 1400 you could get an x58 mobo with ubs 3.0 and all that jaz along with a more powerful GPU then the 460, like a 470 or 5870


Very very OCable, and comes with a copy of Metro 2033
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2523/1300build.png (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/1300build.png/)

edit: awesome thats a 30 pound case XD

Jeimuzu
09-01-2010, 02:33 PM
Leave hallwagner alone. D=.. He doesn't understand computer lingo. He just wants to buy a computer from Amazon or something.

Seriously though, build your own. Way better.

StarsMine
09-01-2010, 03:05 PM
Leave hallwagner alone. D=.. He doesn't understand computer lingo. He just wants to buy a computer from Amazon or something.

Seriously though, build your own. Way better.

if he doesnt understand then the CPU fan and thermal paste in that build is useless D:

Fluffy Frufflebottoms
09-01-2010, 03:13 PM
If you aren't up for building it yourself, and just want something that works out of the box, one decent option is this (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_X58_Configurator/). Select "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card" as the video card, and "600 Watts - XtremeGear Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready" as the power supply. Should end up at $1,016. Free shipping to boot. That's a very decent price for a very decent pre-built system. i7-950, 1 TiB hard drive, 6 GiB of RAM, and a very good video card. That should cover the listed requirements.

hallwagner
09-01-2010, 03:24 PM
Leave hallwagner alone. D=.. He doesn't understand computer lingo. He just wants to buy a computer from Amazon or something.

Seriously though, build your own. Way better.

i know to a pretty good extent what the terms mean. so far i've understood most of what u guys said. i've just never done this sort of thing b4 and needed advice as to what i should be doing. i've "recruited" one of my friends to come over and help me pick out things and put it together. it'll help to have his input as a instructor on the scene per say. so i guess i'll keep u guys updated, not that u really care :P

StarsMine
09-01-2010, 03:26 PM
o.O holy crap fluffy, a prebuilt for that price! D: that actually is an amazing deal. Id go with a better psu then what you said, thats one thing you should NEVER skimp on.

Post the build here before you buy so we can critic it and your friend as I have seen many people online who think they know about computers pull out shitty builds.

hallwagner
09-01-2010, 03:30 PM
o.O holy crap fluffy, a prebuilt for that price! D: that actually is an amazing deal. Id go with a better psu then what you said, thats one thing you should NEVER skimp on.

Post the build here before you buy so we can critic it and your friend as I have seen many people online who think they know about computers pull out shitty builds.

well hes an irl friend so i doubt he'd do that :P

Tickle Me Emo
09-01-2010, 04:13 PM
well hes an irl friend so i doubt he'd do that :P

The point is, he wouldn't know he was doing it, because people that think they know what they're doing... think they know what they're doing. Maybe he does, or maybe he doesn't, it's better to double check :P


If you aren't up for building it yourself, and just want something that works out of the box, one decent option is this (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_X58_Configurator/). Select "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card" as the video card, and "600 Watts - XtremeGear Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready" as the power supply. Should end up at $1,016. Free shipping to boot. That's a very decent price for a very decent pre-built system. i7-950, 1 TiB hard drive, 6 GiB of RAM, and a very good video card. That should cover the listed requirements.

I've heard good things about CyberPower for pre-built machines. They're certainly a better deal than most. I agree with StarsMine that you should never, ever skimp on the power supply. I'd go with the Corsair 750TX - those PSUs are rated higher than any I've seen in a long time (and the 750W is only $10 more than the 650W). Pushes over budget a bit, but in the long run it could save you a lot of money if your cheap PSU burns out and takes some components with it. Also, you need to add Windows 7 to that price if you don't have a copy already. Finally, notice it comes with water-cooling by default... you might want that, or you might not, just take notice. I don't like the idea of intentionally running water through $1000+ of water-sensitive electronics.

If you build the machine yourself, you'll always get the best deal, even better than CyberPower. Usually I figure I can save about $100 give or take over their prices, and I have more control over component brands (particularly memory and video card). It really isn't that difficult to do. Of course, you only get individual component warranties, vs. CyberPower's standard 3-year limited on the whole machine. I'm not sure what their support is like, haven't really heard much about it.

DeadEyeDeNNi$
09-01-2010, 07:04 PM
Dell, Gateway, etc. are all proprietary BS and u can NEVER update your system due to that fact.

Building your own system these days is REALLY easy and if you use a large ATX case u can basically upgrade any part at any time "forever", thus elininating the need of buying a new pc.

The net is a great tool and even YOU can do it :P

Newegg is a great place to shop and there are many others too (buy.com - tigerdirect). They have some deals that are packaged up for you IF you do not want to get too fussy and for under your price range u can have a rocking system.

GLK man


DED

Trazen4
09-02-2010, 03:19 PM
ya so i need a new desktop comp for less than or close to 1000 $. preferably with 500 gb + hard drive, more than 4 gb ram. possibly an I7 processor, and a top of the line graphics card. any ideas?

Get a 9400 GT with 2 GB RAM for a Graphics Card,it's only $50-70 and it can handle pretty much anything,even ARMA II.(Which is FAR more demanding than Crysis is,that card can also handle Crysis as well.)

It's the Graphics Card I've been using ever since I got this new computer of mine near the end of 2009,and for such a cheap price,it's served me more than well enough.I have yet to find a game for Windows XP that it can't handle.

Also,while 4 GB of regular RAM is better,2 GB is really enough for gaming.

StarsMine
09-02-2010, 03:32 PM
a 9400GT? uhm no. its not 50-70 beacuse the 9000 have been discontinued and the prices of those keep going up.
once again im going to link to this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460-radeon-hd-5570-gaming,2697.html

Why in gods green earth do you want to waist money on anything

Trazen4
09-02-2010, 06:27 PM
a 9400GT? uhm no. its not 50-70 beacuse the 9000 have been discontinued and the prices of those keep going up.
once again im going to link to this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460-radeon-hd-5570-gaming,2697.html

Why in gods green earth do you want to waist money on anything

Discontinued?It's anything but.
Besides,on Amazon it's still sold within the $50-70 range.No need for $150-400 Graphics Card,a $50-70 one that can alreadly handle just about anything is more than enough.

Just trying to save Hallwagner over there some money,I went through this whole thing myself last year.

hallwagner
09-02-2010, 06:39 PM
Discontinued?It's anything but.
Besides,on Amazon it's still sold within the $50-70 range.No need for $150-400 Graphics Card,a $50-70 one that can alreadly handle just about anything is more than enough.

Just trying to save Hallwagner over there some money,I went through this whole thing myself last year.
i've gotten the setup to a little under 1000

motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H LGA 1156 H55 ATX Motherboard
ram: OCZ Technology Gold Series XTC Cooler 4GB DDR3-1333 (PC3-10666) Dual Channel Memory Kit (Two 2GB Memory Modules)
graphics card: EVGA GeForce GTX460 SuperClocked PCIe 2.0 x16 Graphics Card
optical drive: gettin a used 1 from my friend
monitor: Acer G215HAbd 21.5" Widescreen LCD
processor: Intel Core i5 650 3.2GHz Processor Boxed
keyboard: Adesso Desktop Multimedia Keyboard
hard drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
case: Thermaltake Armor A90 ATX Mid Tower Case
power supply: OCZ Technology ModXStream Pro 700W Modular ATX Power Supply
all for $1025.98

StarsMine
09-02-2010, 07:22 PM
Hall did I not already say go for a p55? its the only mobo that supports sli in the 1156 socket. even if its $20 more get it as the fermi scales amazingly in sli. If you dont want to sli get a cheaper PSU because that is OC.

What I mean is you will be able to get a second 460 gtx (get the one gig, its awesomer) in 2 years for like 100 (and give your fps a 90% increase :D) instead of spending 200 again for a brand new GPU

Fluffy Frufflebottoms
09-02-2010, 07:37 PM
i've gotten the setup to a little under 1000

motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H LGA 1156 H55 ATX Motherboard
ram: OCZ Technology Gold Series XTC Cooler 4GB DDR3-1333 (PC3-10666) Dual Channel Memory Kit (Two 2GB Memory Modules)
graphics card: EVGA GeForce GTX460 SuperClocked PCIe 2.0 x16 Graphics Card
optical drive: gettin a used 1 from my friend
monitor: Acer G215HAbd 21.5" Widescreen LCD
processor: Intel Core i5 650 3.2GHz Processor Boxed
keyboard: Adesso Desktop Multimedia Keyboard
hard drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
case: Thermaltake Armor A90 ATX Mid Tower Case
power supply: OCZ Technology ModXStream Pro 700W Modular ATX Power Supply
all for $1025.98

To give you a pre-built alternative, check out this (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1CN6MQ).

Same motherboard, same processor, slightly smaller case (A60, as they don't carry the A90,) 4 GiB of better DDR3-1666 memory, a better video card (EVGA GTX460 1 GiB,) same size hard drive, a better power supply (Corsair CMPSU-650TX,) and optical drive, keyboard, mouse included. Comes assembled and delivered with a three year warranty on the whole thing for $799. The monitor you picked is $150, so with that system, and the same monitor, you'll get a better computer with a better warranty for around $100 less, and you don't have to deal with the hassle of assembly and dead parts.

hallwagner
09-10-2010, 09:21 PM
got my computer today, too lazy to post specs now. but all in all it means i will be back wednesday to pwn u guys (too complicated to explain why its wednesday)

StarsMine
09-10-2010, 10:00 PM
got my computer today, too lazy to post specs now. but all in all it means i will be back wednesday to pwn u guys (too complicated to explain why its wednesday)

tell us the specs damnit

hallwagner
09-10-2010, 10:43 PM
well i actually ended up getting a pre-built because of complications about y living situation and my friends work hours (long story...)

amd phenom II X6 1035T processor

ati radeon hd 5750 1024 mb graphics card

1.5 tb hard drive

8gb ddr3 memory

not sure about the rest right now, but it was this plus a 22 inch monitor for 1100. a little more than i wanted to spend, but considering it would be a couple weeks or so if i would have chosen to build my own, so i figured it was worth it. having css relapse :banghead:

DeadEyeDeNNi$
09-10-2010, 10:58 PM
well i actually ended up getting a pre-built because of complications about y living situation and my friends work hours (long story...)

amd phenom II X6 1035T processor

ati radeon hd 5750 1024 mb graphics card

1.5 tb hard drive

8gb ddr3 memory

not sure about the rest right now, but it was this plus a 22 inch monitor for 1100. a little more than i wanted to spend, but considering it would be a couple weeks or so if i would have chosen to build my own, so i figured it was worth it. having css relapse :banghead:

As long as it's a Crosshair 3 Formula MB (which has X Fi HD soundcard) you should be good and you can add another graphics card later to use Crossfire which would be very similar to mine and I'm very happy with the way it performs.

StarsMine
09-11-2010, 06:24 AM
As long as it's a Crosshair 3 Formula MB (which has X Fi HD soundcard) you should be good and you can add another graphics card later to use Crossfire which would be very similar to mine and I'm very happy with the way it performs.

yea but a 5750 :/ should have gone with 4 gigs and a gtx 460

DeadEyeDeNNi$
09-11-2010, 08:49 AM
yea but a 5750 :/ should have gone with 4 gigs and a gtx 460

Actually I have two 4890's, Crossfire enabled and OC'd, and like them way better than the 5750 as they run cooler and more stable,(I get max FPS in CSS, 299 so...) but you're right on the 460. He may not have had an option for that price tho but all in all it sounds like he did ok as long as the MB isn't a mediocre board.

StarsMine
09-11-2010, 01:54 PM
Actually I have two 4890's, Crossfire enabled and OC'd, and like them way better than the 5750 as they run cooler and more stable,(I get max FPS in CSS, 299 so...) but you're right on the 460. He may not have had an option for that price tho but all in all it sounds like he did ok as long as the MB isn't a mediocre board.

I ment id rather crossfire something like a 5770 or 4890/sli a 460 then a 5750... hell Id rather not crossfire a 5750 at all