Server Rules 1.7

[ZERO]

Revision 1.7

Table of Contents
Rules
Punishment
Reference



-RULES

I. Hacking
1) The use of any program to auto aimA) aimbots, spin bots, lock bots
2) The use of a program or textures or settings to see though wallsA) wall hacks, prefire, esp
3) The use of any program, script or setting to run fasterA) speed hacks
4) The use of changed textures and or sounds to gain unfair advantageA) no scope skins, changed ingame sounds to gain advantage, look for prefire
II. Exploiting
1) The use of programs, settings, or scripts to crash or exploit the serverA) Hacking the server
B) Executing a script that can crash the server
2) The use of scripts to break normal functionality of a game or modA) Scripts that break every cade
III. Spamming
1) Yelling into a mic repeatedly to disrupt game play
2) The use of HLSSA) Can be used with permission from admin or if players are requesting it
B) Should not be overused or used for long durations
3) Advertising for another server or clanA) Preformed by saying: Join here xx.xxx.xx.x.x
B) Such as come to XXX join my clan
C) Getting people to join player groups can be done via steam. Do not wast chat space for this sort of thing
4) Just typing a bunch of stuff to spam the chat

5) The malicious spread of dissidence in order to rally support for a competing entity.
A) Not to be confused with crying about the server
B) Not to be confused with crying about the community
C) Malicious intent must be proven
D) Note: Complaints about the servers are encouraged however this rule is intended to prevent the abuse of complaints in order to form as a marketing statement for other servers.
IV. Teleport
1) When used to escape from zombies as a humanA) Commands such as but not limited toa) !stuck
b) !ztele
c) !teleport
2) When used repeatedly despite multiple kicks
V. Glitching
1) Taking advantage of the shortcomings of a mapA) Using methods not intended by the map creator to gain an advantage where it is 99%+ impossible for zombies to get you
B) Camping in areas that you can only get to by exploiting a map or using special zombie powers to get to the end of an escape map a) Prenuking or camping on the platform on atix
2) Taking advantage of the shortcomings of valveA) Rate hackinga) The use of rate settings to spoof a abnormal ping to not get kicked
b) The use of rate settings to gain an unfair net code advantagei) This is seen when a player lags heavily but has a low ping or strange interp settings
B) Name hackinga) When used to create an identical namei) This is automatically applied to people using the name unconnected. They are copying each others names and should be stopped even if there is only one.
b) When used to create and invisible name
c) When used to create the name of an admin or clan member
3) Taking advantage of a modA) When used to break the normal functionality of the gamea) Such as wards or poison smoke being used on bombs and hostages
VI. Ghosting
1) When used ingame from same residenceA) When two or more people communicate verbally or via any other means the location and or whereabouts of enemies on a given map
2) When used via Vent ect...
A) When two or more players use a program outside of the game to communicate the location and or whereabouts of enemies on a given map
VII. Respect
1) Players that disrespect others
2) Player continuously nags others and continues despite reasonable requests to silence including mutes and kicks
3) Players that disrespect Admins or <ibis>
A) Player that nags an admin repeatedly despite being told to :chillpill:
B) Player that is not respectful of someone of a higher position
C) Flipping out at an admin after being told to :chillpill:a) Cursing
b) Screaming into mic
c) Ranting about how the admin, ect is gay ect.
VIII. Sprays
1) A spray that contains "gay" imagesA) Gay men or body parts
2) Disgusting imagesA) Things that look really bada) includes BBW images designed to shock players
3) A spray that is sprayed after the user has been warned multiple times.
IX. Give
1) When used to avoid reloadingA) This refers to the !give command
2) When used after being warnedA) This refers to the !give command 3) When used repeatedly on multiple occasionsA) This refers to the !give command
4) When repeatedly used to obtain restricted weaponsA) This refers to ADMINs
5) When used to give money or levels or a means to obtain easy levels on WCS
X. Buy
1) When used to obtain a restricted weaponA) Via console
B) Via buy menua) When used during a failure of the restriction system after an admin has stated to cease use of said object and the user continues despite being reasonably informed
b) When used to buy an object after said object has been dropped on the mapi) The object was dropped by another player to allow for this exploit
ii) The object was dropped as a result of a players death
XI. Names
1) No player shall use a name made to look like another players
2) No admin shall ever use unnamed or unconnected
XII. Spec/Retry1) No player shall enter spectate to avoid death.
2) No player shall reconnect or leave the server and come back to avoid death.
3) No player shall reconnect or leave the server and come back to play again in the same round.
4) Above applies to all servers for all players, should not be confused with allowing zombies to teleport to avoid death.
-PUNISHMENT

I. Kicks
Should be given out to players to break the rules and disrupt the game. A verbal and admin say warring should be given out in advanced of a kick.1) If players fail to respond within a reasonable time frame they should be kicked for violation of any of the followingII.2
III
III.1
IV
IV.2
V
VII
VIII
IX
X
XI
XII
2) The following can be upgraded directly to a "short" temp ban with the discretion of the ADMIN. Remember that the player should still be warned before any ban or kick is issued.II.2
III.1
IV.2
V
X
XI
XII

II. Temp bans
Should be given out to players who have a thick skull and need to be taught a lesson. Should not be given for longer than 7 days, this is the maximum unless the user has a history of problems.1) Violation of any of the following gets instant temp banIII.5 -With demo of proof
IV.2
V.2.B.a
VII.2
VII.3.C
VIII.3
2) Violation of any of the following after the player has been kicked (or the rules bypass are met) for preforming said violation. Note that instant bypasses should not be longer than an hour or so. Also remember that the player should have been clearly warned before the issue of said ban.II.2
III
IV.2
V
VI
VII
VIII
IX
X
XI
XII

III. Perma bans
This is the highest punishment a player can receive. It can only be granted by a relatively small number of Upper Level Admins. Perma bans usually require a demo but always require that the player in question, beyond a reasonable doubt, committed an offense against the server and or community. Like any ban these can be applied but require a 2/3 majority vote from ALL upper level admins. If the ban appeal is denied it can NEVER be made again.1) Violation of the following can result in perma ban without a demo. As long as there is substantial witnesses and physical log evidenceI.1
I.3
II.1
V.2.B.c
IX.3
2) Violation of the following when proved by demoI
II
III.5 -Must have received an approved temp ban first
V.2.A
V.2.B.c
-REFERENCE

I. How rules are referenced
Rules are referenced according to their number and letter. When referring to a given rule any sub sections to the number referenced are considered part of the object being discussed. Below are examplesV.2.A.a -Refers only to section a of A of 2 of rule V. any any subsections

V.2.A.b.i -Refers only to section i of the sections above it
II. Understanding bypasses
Some rules allow for bypasses, this means that under some circumstances one type of punishment can be bypassed and a more sever one can be issued. For example violations of some rules may allow admins to skip a kick and go to a predesignated ban length instead. Another example would be bypassing a mute for a kick. Punishments that can be bypassed have a section stating what rule violations allow for bypasses. It is up to an admin to decide if they want to skip to a more severe punishment. Think of bypasses as an "or" statement for admins, when a user breaks a given rule they can punish with "this" or if it is on the bypass list they can punish with "something more severe"
III. RevisionsThe rules are never totally set in stone, there are always people finding new unimaginable ways to ruin peoples fun. In addition sometimes it is necessary to spell out in stone some things that are highly contested to make it dead clear. Revisions will follow a X.x format and X will always change the version after x=9. x also starts at 0 and X starts at 1. The current revision is listed at the top of the post on the right hand corner and in the topic title.

[ZERO]

Ok so as you see I have made an entire official rules list for all servers and a simple punishment system to follow for enforcing them. These rules are dynamic and should and can be discussed here as well as the punishment system. Also if you see any errors please post so that they can be corrected. I hope that this topic will help out players and admins alike by making everything as clear as possible while still having rules broad enough to allow for unknowns to be accounted for.

[Envy]

[/INDENT][/INDENT]II. Understanding bypasses
Some rules allow for bypasses, this means that under some circumstances one type of punishment can be bypassed and a more severe one can be issued...


so severe instead of server. sorry for nit picking

[The.Beast.13.]

Great job...:wtg:

Peace

[The.Beast.13.]

[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT]VIII. Sprays
[INDENT]1) A spray that contains "gay" images[INDENT]A) Gay men or body parts

Lol....lesbians are cool???? DISCRIMINATION!!!! lol...Lesbians are all my friends...btw, in college, my neighboors were a couple of lesians....wahhh...i spent my nights at the laundry trying to get in their "clan" lol...anyway...that s another story!!

[ZERO]

Simple logic:

(people that like sprays of gay guys) < (people that like sprays of lesbian) > (people that do not use the internet) > (woman that would be offended enough to care)

[The.Beast.13.]

mouahahah...well done...that explanation would have help some guys in high school to understand logic 101!!! ahahah

Peace

[vicious]

Another GG Rule:

No helping someone on the other team win:
examples, telling them where you are so they can shoot you, knife you, or Grenade you.


Another admin rule:

No trading teams during a round. Either yourself or someone else.(yes that has happened, i wont name the admin cause i told him its common sense not to do that)

And if that isnt clear, i'm not talking about pressing m then a new team. I'm talking about using the admin command and switch your team instantly. So you can basically spawn, change team, and kill everyone in the spawn.

[lukeydukey]

Uh, is there a rule that somebody can't have a blank or unnamed as a nick?

[ZERO]

Uh, is there a rule that somebody can't have a blank or unnamed as a nick?

V.2.B.b :smirk:

[ZERO]

Version updated to 1.1 added V.2.B.a.i

[Mallissin]

Need some clarification.

I'm assuming TKing is considered under the "Disrespecting other players" section.

It's my understanding that admins should always have their tags on while acting like admins. We had an incident this afternoon where an admin changed their name to hide themselves and several people I'm assuming in jest called for him to be banned but I took it as goading other admins to break the rules. His reasoning, he was watching a hacker, although he wouldn't tell us who. I don't like seeing admins fooling around like this so I pressed for him to put his tag on, but he told me Zero doesn't require it. I just ignored it for the rest of the afternoon after telling the other admins to be careful.

Also would like so clarification on what sort of warning is required. If we tell everyone over all chat to not do something and describe the punishment, do we also need to warn the individual player after they broke the rules or can we just jump right to punishment?

Could we also consider a list of rules to consider when we find people in spots that seem like map exploits? Someone mentioned Zero had a rule that stated if a zombie has to kneel through a spot, it can't be barricaded? This would rule out barricading vents and many other spots.

One spot in particular I'd like clarified are the tubes on junkyard (zombie). They're nearly impossible to jump in as a zombie with a player firing at you. I've only seen Pooter and one or two other Top 10 players get in. Doesn't seem fair for those who don't play 18 hours a day.

[ZERO]

I have said before that admins can ban those spots, I have realized that it is an exploit but it is still unofficial b/c i do not want kayos from a rapid change. If a user keeps tking and he it doing it intentionally it is an instant ban. Admins can change there names when in spec to demo hackers. If another admin does something to them and they do not ahve there tag on the other amdin can not be held responsable unless there is logs of conversation over admin chat. you can shoot crap into vents to cade them. That is clearly part of the map.

[ZERO]

Updated to 1.2, added rule XI

[bluedevil]

just read the over the list .. great way of having a simple way of punishment. great job zero !!:wtg::wtg:

[iceofworm]

can u add in a area for the whole admin with time on as in the other thread. just so thats in this post.

[Baliame]

And maybe that being a cockbadger doesn't entitle players to make multiple unban requests and abuse posts about big chunks of nothing?

[THE HOLY SH**T!]

what if you warned a REGULAR 4 times by resulting a...

30 min
1 hr
1 day
1 week...

can you give perma bans after these measures have been issue without a demo? I have a problem with giving a demo in game, it closses out of css and won't let me back in and it say's error report. I can provide a screen shot, and that's it but theirs no point if they dont it constant.

I would like to issue a perma ban if these measures have been through, fuck the 2 week they need to scram.

[ZERO]

Currently I would recommend just banning them for a week multiple times, but when sourcebans 2.0 comes out we will switch to that and there will be a full record of all bans allowing people with insane numbers to be perma banned.:wtg:

[Koolayed]

i cant see whats wrong with gay men pictures your 1 and u have a dick dont u but this is my way of thinking of it : P so anyways i respect who ever has what we have xD or what i want 8--------------------------------------D

[๖ReS]

Koolayed.
Shut up :smirk:

There's a slight problem (i think) with our Ghosting policy.

How will we know if someone is ghosting over vent, sometimes that can look like they're hackin'

With a Chat program they would probably have to stop moving to see what a person was telling them, unless it was in windowed mode.

Anyway.
Im just pointing out that it can be hard to tell the difference between Ghosting (mostly over vent in this case) and Cheating.

Peace, im going to bed.

[[B337u5]Wilford Brimley]

I've always understood the GG server to be under a "no camping policy." Yet several of the admins there camp pretty regularly, then get mad when other players do it. The only reference I saw to camping in your rules was V.1.B though. So was my understanding mistaken, or is this an inadvertent omission?

[Hodgie]

Wilford Brimley;15563']Yet several of the admins there camp pretty regularly, then get mad when other players do it.

Um... what admins are you referring to? I know this statement is completely false for the majority of the gg admins... so I'm just curious

[[B337u5]Wilford Brimley]

The ones I see doing it most often are Virtus and Nemesis. I've noticed it before with others but they're the two biggies.

[Nemesis]

Wilford Brimley;15572']The ones I see doing it most often are Virtus and Nemesis. I've noticed it before with others but they're the two biggies.

lol you're kidding right?

[ZERO]

I still think the idea of camping on gg is a joke. The maps are small and if they are camping they are usually in the same spot and therefore are a free kill. In other words camping is of no overall advantage on gg verses any other strategy. The only thing I can say is that players should not be trying to delay the game. It if a different story when they are just trying not to get killed and run the clock down when there is still like 1:30 left verses getting a position.

[Hodgie]

I still think the idea of camping on gg is a joke. The maps are small and if they are camping they are usually in the same spot and therefore are a free kill. In other words camping is of no overall advantage on gg verses any other strategy. The only thing I can say is that players should not be trying to delay the game. It if a different story when they are just trying not to get killed and run the clock down when there is still like 1:30 left verses getting a position.

Yea, plus the objective of gg is to get as many kills as possible. kdr may be important in pubs, but the number of kills is more important in gg (although for most people more kills = better kdr anyway)

[I LIKE TURTLES]

Yea, plus the objective of gg is to get as many kills as possible. kdr may be important in pubs, but the number of kills is more important in gg (although for most people more kills = better kdr anyway)

Hodgie, my KDR has been dropping because you haven't been joining when I am playing lately...

The thing that pisses me off the most is when both players accept the knife vote... then when the counter starts, one of the player starts running away to waste the time of everyone watching. A lot of you faggot mother fuckers are guilty of this. GET THE SHIT OVER WITH ALREADY. ESP YOU ADMINS, STOP FUCKIN WASTING OUR TIME. If non admins do it, you use your commands on the players, but when the admins do it, nothing can be done.

Quite homo if you ask me.

[inthebutt]

B) Name hacking

a) When used to create an identical name

i) This is automatically applied to people using the name unconnected. They are copying each others names and should be stopped even if there is only one.

b) When used to create and invisible name
c) When used to create the name of an admin or clan member

Zero I have a question about this. Lately I've seen multiple people at night in GG and ZM, mostly at night having the same name. Then the mic spamming starts and I don't know how to figure out who is doing the spamming. Both players were on the same team, both spammed the mic, but a third player with the same name and same team wasn't doing anything. in this situation what would be the correct thing to do??

[Hodgie]

Hodgie, my KDR has been dropping because you haven't been joining when I am playing lately...

The shitty DSL internet that my landlady has setup has been crappin out a lot lately. It's frustrating to play gg and get disconnected when you're on pistols or whatever. I've also been getting the itch to play in pub so I've been doin that... it doesn't really matter if i get disconnect there.

The thing that pisses me off the most is when both players accept the knife vote... then when the counter starts, one of the player starts running away to waste the time of everyone watching. A lot of you faggot mother fuckers are guilty of this. GET THE SHIT OVER WITH ALREADY. ESP YOU ADMINS, STOP FUCKIN WASTING OUR TIME. If non admins do it, you use your commands on the players, but when the admins do it, nothing can be done.

Quite homo if you ask me.

cough... Virtus... cough

Zero I have a question about this. Lately I've seen multiple people at night in GG and ZM, mostly at night having the same name. Then the mic spamming starts and I don't know how to figure out who is doing the spamming. Both players were on the same team, both spammed the mic, but a third player with the same name and same team wasn't doing anything. in this situation what would be the correct thing to do??

I'll try and help out since Zero has mentioned that he's backed up with exams... hopefully i don't get yelled at for making up rules :lmao:
In the past I think admins have either muted all of the players with the same name and then unmuted them one at a time until the one that's being obnoxious is heard or they do it the other way and mute first one then two etc until the noise goes away... then the problematic one is the last one you muted.

[inthebutt]

I was thinking more along the lines of kicking all three of them, than finding out exactly the players steam ID's as they rejoin. that way I know who's steam ID is who's.

[Kavinsky]

since the votemute and mute features are never going to be fixed on zmod i'm requesting that the following server rules be added on to the spamming section C: A and B are null and void on the zmod server, no mic spamming is allowed and will be swiftly delt with an automatic mute after one and only one warning is given by the current admin.

[ZERO]

Updated 1.3 with section II.2 and V.3

New rules against scripts that destroy cades and blocking map objectives on the wcs server.

[Jeimuzu]

Why isn't grenade glitching against the rules yet?

And what about constantly team killing in zombie mod via blowing bridges, shooting planks out from under people, and killing them with cannons?

[Mallissin]

Nade glitching and intentional TKing by map elements is considered disrespecting other players, ie. griefing/trolling/etc., so not sure why a specific rule would need to be made. In fact, leaving it vague allows an admin more room to work when people think up new ways to piss other people off.

[walterbrunswick]

Nade glitching and intentional TKing by map elements is considered disrespecting other players, ie. griefing/trolling/etc., so not sure why a specific rule would need to be made. In fact, leaving it vague allows an admin more room to work when people think up new ways to piss other people off.
As I recall, you were the one complaining when I and another admin asked you not to cade using the shelf on snoopie. You were complaining about how it wasn't a "written rule."

And then you go on to say "so not sure why a specific rule would need to be made. In fact, leaving it vague allows an admin more room to work."

You just made a 180 degree turnaround:)

[Nemesis]

so the way the WCS rule is worded just so long as you dont place the wards directly on the marked space for the bomb you're good, yes?

[Mallissin]

As I recall, you were the one complaining when I and another admin asked you not to cade using the shelf on snoopie. You were complaining about how it wasn't a "written rule."

And then you go on to say "so not sure why a specific rule would need to be made. In fact, leaving it vague allows an admin more room to work."

You just made a 180 degree turnaround:)

Hardly. There's no rule to making impossible to open barricades or we'd be kicking half the server on some maps. The only barricade spot outlawed for the longest time was the one red room on highschool_beta because zombies couldn't see the barricade. On snoopie, the zombies can clearly see the shelf.

I also get annoyed when people say "Zero says so and so", but it's not written anywhere. We should make a clear list of off-limits spots.

On a tangent, also getting annoyed at the spreading use of going Spectator to avoid dying. There are regulars doing it casually on GG (to avoid a nade in one case) and ZM (to avoid zombies and nuke/gas/etc. deaths).

There's no rule against it, even though it clearly should be if using the same logic behind the no humans !zteleing from zombies.

[ZERO]

Updated to version 1.4 now contains rule XII

Changes: added section XII to prevent players from leaving the server and or going to spectate to avoid death. :wtg:

[XxMastagunzxX]

Nice :wtg:

[Blaze1]

i may have missed it(im a little slow sometimes,lol), but what about cade breaking?

[Jeimuzu]

Barricade breaking is in the ZM's server rules.. I believe you just have to go in-game and type !rules.

[Mallissin]

Yah, barricade breaking, killing teammates with the nade glitch or map objects, or any other novel technique to screw over your fellow players falls into the big gray area of disrespecting other players.

We're all here to have fun. If you're only on the server to have fun at other's expense (aside from killing your opponent), expect an admin to be smacking you around.

[mastercheff]

i remember we used to nade glitch admins because they make us play bad map thursday i remember the good times

[Blaze1]

i remember we used to nade glitch admins because they make us play bad map thursday i remember the good times

the good old days! lol

[test tickle]

one thing i'm wondering... i diddent read the whole thread mind u, is what the hell is up with banning fast zombies on escape maps. dont get me wrong, i do understand that they are fast and can kill an escape map very fast. but if you dont want ppl to use em, delete the class. i would rather use a classic zombie than get banned for something retarded as that.

also, if that suggestion doesnt get u, then take down one of the less popular servers and make an escape server only... without fast zombies. then we all dont have to get mad when everyone spams 1 or 2 and we get a gay zombie escape map.

[Jeimuzu]

It isn't a rule, but the admins are trying to make it more fair for humans on escape maps. Though I can't say I agree with them, because I've proven to them that you can survive on most escape maps against fast zombies. I even proved it on train escape.

It's a lot like a common courtesy to not be a fast zombie on an escape map though, just as it is a common courtesy to ztele out of a barricade if your the first zombie. But I certainly hope they aren't banning people for it.

The owner of the servers will be able to modify what classes are allowed depending on what map we play to make it more fair for humans, but I wouldn't expect to see that for awhile. At least until the maker of Zombie Mod comes out with the next update.

[test tickle]

making rules on the fly in this game is like playn hide and go seek with an a.d.d. kid changing the rules all the damn time. if its gonna be a "ban-able offense" even for 5 minutes, then it should be an official rule, none of this on the fly or admin preference bullshit.

[Mallissin]

Banning for being a fast on an escape is going a little too far.

I'll usually make a votequestion asking if fast zombies should be frozen, and depending on the vote I'd go spec and freeze any I see.

But banning is excessive and I agree with Mister Tickle.

[Jeimuzu]

A bit of ZM history for you..

About a day after the escape map Mines of Moria came out, all of the regulars wanted to check it out. Hobo (One of the admins at the time, before he went off to college) decided that the fast zombies were incredibly unfair, and everyone pretty much agreed to changing their class off the fast zombie, including me. Though as time went on, new admins and newcomers came, and they pretty much followed along with the same concept, except now it was enforced by freezing, because some of the newcomers were midgety things that didn't know how to read and could barely speak.

But that's good that you aren't banning people for it.. I remember I was nearly banned for it on my alternate account trying to see what the admins would do if I ran past them all as a fast zombie and closed the gate on them in Jurassic Park.

Was actually quite funny..

[yours' truely]

I totally agree about fast zombies on escape maps. Keep in mind that I hate escape maps.

Banning though? It's not an official rule so I think a ban is a bit overboard... even for 5 min.

I think a better course of action is to announce at the beginning that after the first round fast zombies will not be allowed. If there is a fast zombie then freeze them for the rest of the round. I think that freezing is a much better course b/c not everyone is fluent in english or don't pay attention to chat/voice. If that's the case, then once they're frozen I'm pretty sure they will start paying attention to chat/voice a bit more and find out why they were frozen.

If freezing a player for fast zombie does become regular practice, I would hope that the admin and other regulars that are aware of this will try to let him know why.

[Jeimuzu]

That's exactly what they do nowadays (Freezing instead of banning.) I hope.. But the real solution will come when the next version of ZM is released.

This is like the other times though.. When admins also started to enforce the common courtesy of not having more than two people in tubes at a time. Or when they even enforced the common courtesy of zteleing out of a barricade if you turned into a fast zombie. Or telling people to not barricade in certain spots instead of just asking them not to, even if skilled players could break into them.

But really, admins do have to often make calls on what is fair and what is not.

[yours' truely]

:)

about zteleing when tagged in a cade, the bro code. I'm not a big fan of this.

Some times trying to break a cade is nearly impossible with the combination of all the ppl inside and the quality of the cade. I've often just had to sit outside the cade, tube or vent and wait for an impatient player to stick their head out or get to close to the opening. When that happens, i jump up and tag them.

Cade is intact, but now my (2million hours) time spent camping them pays off with a Z inside to tag the rest. It's a real buzz kill when they immediately ztele out. I think that if ppl didn't ztele out that would make things more suspenseful when you get into a room with all these strangers.

[Jeimuzu]

It's different for a few others though (including me). People leech, and end up becoming the first zombie and killing you. When obviously you wouldn't have died if they weren't following you. It just gets annoying.. So Hobo and I pretty much thought up the common courtesies, and Res named it "The Bro Code." You don't have to follow it, people just end up respecting you more and relying on you more if you do.

Though this mostly applies when it's just you and one or two friends in a cade. Not when there's 20 people in one small room.

[DeadEyeDeNNi$]

"III. Revisions
The rules are never totally set in stone, there are always people finding new unimaginable ways to ruin peoples fun. In addition sometimes it is necessary to spell out in stone some things that are highly contested to make it dead clear. Revisions will follow a X.x format and X will always change the version after x=9. x also starts at 0 and X starts at 1. The current revision is listed at the top of the post on the right hand corner and in the topic title"

Most players on GG server (including me) do not like people coming in and constantly camping to increase their stats/progress and it makes for an unstable community. There are many people that get extremely upset with campers to the extreme that they votekick them or if an admin is available to deal with them so it will stop.

When I play in GG I put up a message in "say" addressing the camp issue: NO CAMPING on this server unless you have a regular AWP or Scout! The reason for the two guns should be obvious but I'll explain. Those two weapons need to be opened up scope wise to enable a player to make their shot (most of the time) and thus giving others the advantage of un unknowing knife on that weapon holder. Now yes there are other scoped weapons but they can easily, even in close quarters be used to kill w/o the scope being opened up.

IMHO this should become a rule of revision and enforced by admins when possible.

I will use a multitude of variety (slap-burn-freeze-blind, etc.) to drive my point to the player after bringing the message back up and also warning them to move.

TC,

DED

[Tragedy]

"III. Revisions
The rules are never totally set in stone, there are always people finding new unimaginable ways to ruin peoples fun. In addition sometimes it is necessary to spell out in stone some things that are highly contested to make it dead clear. Revisions will follow a X.x format and X will always change the version after x=9. x also starts at 0 and X starts at 1. The current revision is listed at the top of the post on the right hand corner and in the topic title"

Most players on GG server (including me) do not like people coming in and constantly camping to increase their stats/progress and it makes for an unstable community. There are many people that get extremely upset with campers to the extreme that they votekick them or if an admin is available to deal with them so it will stop.

When I play in GG I put up a message in "say" addressing the camp issue: NO CAMPING on this server unless you have a regular AWP or Scout! The reason for the two guns should be obvious but I'll explain. Those two weapons need to be opened up scope wise to enable a player to make their shot (most of the time) and thus giving others the advantage of un unknowing knife on that weapon holder. Now yes there are other scoped weapons but they can easily, even in close quarters be used to kill w/o the scope being opened up.

IMHO this should become a rule of revision and enforced by admins when possible.

I will use a multitude of variety (slap-burn-freeze-blind, etc.) to drive my point to the player after bringing the message back up and also warning them to move.

TC,

DED


Camping sucks and everyone knows this. Does it suck on GG? I'm not so sure...camping on GG more than 1 round and in the same place is basically a free kill to anyone with a brain on the opposing team.

Sure, I will camp every single round until I get off AWP/Scout...but on certain maps I will chill in a certain area every once in a while and wait for a kill. Especially when I know an opposing player will be coming my way...I'll sit there and twiddle my thumbs and then BAM...and even then someone will be like " fuckin' campers ". Ya know?

I mean I TOTALLY understand where you are coming from if someone is chilling with machine guns and stuff and camping round after round after round...it DOES suck, but like I said...the other team should know by now where that person is going to be and to just walk up and BAM.

Punishments for camping though? ehh....

[loka]

lol. Camping in GG is pointless. Hence why this is the lamest rule. I'm sorry if you can't kill the freekill, but its the dumbest shit to put punishments on. ZERO stated pages ago on this thread that it's a free kill. it's pointless to try to install a no camping policy in GG. Camping in pub CS is a totally different story and annoying. However in GG, I can't understand how people can get pissed about someone camping in 1 spot. Camping is defined in CS as someone who stays in 1 spot for more than 1 minute. Apparently your definition of camping is someone who isn't moving which is a piss poor definition of camping and I suggest you play leagues before trying to open your mouth with your definition of camping.

Camping isn't horrible in GG. Dennis just has issues with it which is his own damn problem because everyone else seems to not have an issue with it. Case in point people have more fun and can play the game when your off rather then blinding, burning, freezing, whatever lame bullshit you do because after awhile it's annoying and it's called abuse.

[loka]

And just so we're clear what camping is... these 2 guys are obvious campers

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There's a difference between strategy and camping. That is just annoying and they never planted the bomb, and sat in the same spot for the entire round (obvious annoyance of camping in pub and why it's pointless in GG because of the size of GG maps). The point of GG is to level up. Playing in GG I haven't seen anyone get upset about campers. They don't exist in GG.

/end

[Tragedy]

funny video lol

[DeadEyeDeNNi$]

I disagree but if you think I'm wrong then I'll back off the camping rule and let's see how it goes.. My bet is that after I inform the masses that they should come here to post their complaints that the boards will be inundated with more posts than desired...

Over and out


DED

[tj26]

i have to agree with dennis on this one it is rather annoying. it's not so much that they're hard to kill it's just dificult to get at them when other enemies are running around you, you can either shoot at the camper and have one of his teammates kill you at the same time or you can try to avoid him which blocks off half the map in some cases unless they're the last ones alive i guess but the point remains

[ZERO]

Added IX.5

This rule is to prevent admins or anyone from allowing "free" levels on wcs.

[ZERO]

Updated to 1.6

Rule XII.3 added: No player shall reconnect or leave the server and come back to play again in the same round.

[maynard]

Added IX.5

This rule is to prevent admins or anyone from allowing "free" levels on wcs.

hooray, no more cheaters.:icon_mrgreen:

[Steamer]

Updated to 1.6

Rule XII.3 added: No player shall reconnect or leave the server and come back to play again in the same round.

Bout time! :wtg:

The only thing that sucks is when no one is trying as so they don't blemish their coveted rank others cant respawn and try to help.... ;)

[TheLittlestHobo]

Updated to 1.6

Rule XII.3 added: No player shall reconnect or leave the server and come back to play again in the same round.

You should be more detailed as different circumstances will arise:

- Someone who's ping is too high and auto kicked
- Someone who leaves the server to do something then reconnects a minute later during the same round

I think you should just generalize that at any point you leave the server (by any circumstances) !spawn is prohibited.

OR you can remove the !spawn feature and negate the issues that are associated with it and let the people wait 5 minutes MAX for the round to end...to put things into perspective
(15 mins + 10 min for extending) x 5 maps ~ 125 minutes
5min waiting/125 min potential playing time ~ 4%...not a lot of time wasted...just very impatient people.

[Steamer]

OR you can remove the !spawn feature and negate the issues that are associated with it and let the people wait 5 minutes MAX for the round to end...to put things into perspective
(15 mins + 10 min for extending) x 5 maps ~ 125 minutes
5min waiting/125 min potential playing time ~ 4%...not a lot of time wasted...just very impatient people.

OR... Add the Retry Kick plug-in that is time based and can be customized per second. That way it can't be abused and allows room for others to try and help and also late players to still join the game as a zombie. :wtg:

[Oasis]

Updated to 1.6

Rule XII.3 added: No player shall reconnect or leave the server and come back to play again in the same round.

Fuck yeah, thank you.

[DeadEyeDeNNi$]

I have seen the rule of no racial slurring in any IBIS server in the past somewhere and I thought it was here. I enforce the no racial slur element on any IBIS server with warnings to stop and that if continued is a bannable offense. I also reference IBISgaming.com to any that question my statement/warning and I've had a few ppl lately tell me that it's not here so that's why I came to investigate today and it appears that they are right! Where did it go?

[echo501st]

That would be under disrespect.
VII. Respect

1) Players that disrespect others

Racism is not tolerated. I do one warning, if they say anything racial after that i do a one day ban.

[DeadEyeDeNNi$]

That would be under disrespect.
VII. Respect

1) Players that disrespect others

Racism is not tolerated. I do one warning, if they say anything racial after that i do a one day ban.

Nope, I have seen ZERO post something about it before and it's not to be tolerated and I thought for certain that it would be in the server rules containing the words of "NO racial slurs of any description" yada yada as well as recommended punishment.

ATM I do a one day thing unless they really get belligerent or defiant, then they get 2-4, like today when one guy not only was defiant, he called me out on the "it's against the rules and on ibisgaming.com rules for ypu to read" as he came here, saw that it was not here, hasseled me for 10 minutes, then proceeded to use the "N" word repeatedly saying ban me...

Needless to say I granted his wish.

[loka]

I thought the racism rule was obvious under disrespect. Either way, I do not give warnings the minute I see a troll go "NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER", or have Swastikas in their name. If someone wants to spout the word or be a fucking retard, I give one chance and it's done. I don't have patience for it, and it should be something that is added saying "no racial slurs or racial symbols".

[Christmas]

Okay, since ITB brought up the "if it isn't listed you can't ban for it", then what about blocking ladders, cade-breaking, purposefully getting tagged, etc.? None of these are listed yet bannable.

If people are going to get on other admins for "making up rules" EVERY SINGLE INFRACTION needs to be put up on the rules so this doesn't keep happening.

[Jeimuzu]

Okay, since ITB brought up the "if it isn't listed you can't ban for it", then what about blocking ladders, cade-breaking, purposefully getting tagged, etc.? None of these are listed yet bannable.

If people are going to get on other admins for "making up rules" EVERY SINGLE INFRACTION needs to be put up on the rules so this doesn't keep happening.

Go in game, type !rules or whatever. They are in the rules. They just aren't listed here.

[Jeimuzu]

You should add that "You can also view in-game rules by simply typing "rules" while playing." to the first post.

[ZERO]

Updated to 1.7 rule III.5 added to prevent:
The malicious spread of dissidence in order to rally support for a competing entity.

[Nemesis]

Updated to 1.7 rule III.5 added to prevent:
The malicious spread of dissidence in order to rally support for a competing entity.

may i maliciously spread dissidence for my own amusement?

[ZERO]

yes?...