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ZERO
11-17-2010, 12:49 AM
So lets have it... what do you think the best gun is and why :assault: :pistols:

BTW the AK is the best as it deals good damage at fast rate and is a HS machine :assault:

acolyte_to_jippity
11-17-2010, 01:59 AM
tmp

or usp/p228

tmp is mad accurate, and fires fast

usp/p228 is powerful and accurate if you're careful with your shots

-=NYS=- C.O.
11-17-2010, 08:35 AM
Ak is a headshot machine from short to long range. Still love the AWP, deagle combo.

XX0wnsXY
11-17-2010, 09:03 AM
m16 and deagle. it just works best for me... with the silencer on.

B1ackOut
11-17-2010, 10:59 AM
tmp/usp is a great combo, but i do like a good old ak/m4 with a deagle

hallwagner
11-17-2010, 11:04 AM
hmm i like m4/ deagle combo when i play pub (rarely) i also love the famas, and i have no idea why nobody else does. its probably my fave level on gg, but i almost never use it for pub

acolyte_to_jippity
11-17-2010, 12:22 PM
hmm i like m4/ deagle combo when i play pub (rarely) i also love the famas, and i have no idea why nobody else does. its probably my fave level on gg, but i almost never use it for pub

i love the famas, but it's not my favorite

Hai
11-17-2010, 02:08 PM
In terms of PUB, AWP/AK/M4 are still the kings.

GG, however, I truly enjoy the P90/TMP/P228/Dualies.

maynard
11-17-2010, 02:16 PM
SIG/deagle

StarsMine
11-17-2010, 03:32 PM
p90 it kicks ass in GG, ZMod, WCS, and a bit in Pub... I suck at pub -.-

Christmas
11-17-2010, 04:37 PM
Ak and p228.

Awp whores can get bent.

BladeTwinSwords
11-17-2010, 07:32 PM
Depends on the game

Pub: AK/P228
GG: AWP/AK
ZMOD: P90 or TMP/P228 or Dualies
WCS: P90 or AK/P228 or Deagle

Trazen4
11-19-2010, 05:42 PM
To hell with AWP/Deagle/M4/AK whores...

For me:
Main:M249,Galil,Steyr Aug/Krieg(Excellent for countering AWP-whores and snipers,plus very easy headshots),or the Steyr Scout.(Scout fires MUCH faster than the AWP does,plus you ran faster with the Scout than any other weapon in the game)

Pistol:Five-Seven(20 round clip,fires quick,and one headshot is all it takes) or the P228 Compact.(Very accurate,and fires quicker than the Desert Eagle.)

Sometimes to prove a point,I use the UMP45,which is actually more accurate than all the other SMGs and all the Assault Rifles besides the Steyr Aug and the Krieg.It's a lot more powerful than you think...

acolyte_to_jippity
11-19-2010, 05:47 PM
Sometimes to prove a point,I use the UMP45,which is actually more accurate than all the other SMGs and all the Assault Rifles besides the Steyr Aug and the Krieg.It's a lot more powerful than you think...

tmp and mp5 are more accurate. p90 is less accurate overall, but throws more bullets downrange, so it's more likely to hit something.

hallwagner
11-20-2010, 06:27 PM
fave gg weapon(s) imo have to be all the pistols and nade level :p

Kavinsky
11-22-2010, 08:03 AM
I dont know it depends on what valve screwed with this week, reciently it seems like the m249 is now kicking ass and taking names, along with the m4 and the 228 is the pistol of choice again.

A Baby
11-24-2010, 02:30 AM
Scout/P228.

Fluffy Frufflebottoms
11-27-2010, 01:21 PM
M249, AK-47, and P-228 do it for me.

Andehsaurus
12-01-2010, 01:54 AM
I like pistols in pub games specially in office i love using pistols
sooo
<3 Deagle and P228 :)
If I had to pick a rifle
M4.

elpolloloco
12-08-2010, 12:54 PM
Single pump shotty

Just because I like to spray my junk all over people's face

http://www.ibisgaming.com/pub1_stats/weapon.php?id=7

My mission is to single handedly get the shotty over the navy in # of kills on this server

Nade/shotty combo is pretty sick. You toss a nade into a crowded room which takes a bunch of people down to 50 health. Then turn the corner and fire a couple shots. CLEANUP TIME

brett friggin favre
12-11-2010, 03:25 AM
Scout. If you can aim at a head, you can kill with it. Simple as that.

elpolloloco
12-11-2010, 10:52 AM
One of my favorite things is grabbing a shotty and running down a long hall 1 on 1 vs an awper. 2 out of 3 times I'll turn into mush, but when it works it's so much fun to watch the awper scramble last minute to his pistol of choice when you're in their grill with a shotgun.

devour
12-13-2010, 10:30 AM
deag

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Clutch
12-13-2010, 07:54 PM
AWP is the best simple think you can AWP i dont think so!

brett friggin favre
12-13-2010, 08:18 PM
AWP is the best simple think you can AWP i dont think so!

AWP is worthless when on the move, whereas a scout's mobility and accuracy on the run is much more useful then an almost sure 1 hit kill, again IF you have the aiming skills for it.

A Baby
12-14-2010, 05:43 AM
AWP is worthless when on the move, whereas a scout's mobility and accuracy on the run is much more useful then an almost sure 1 hit kill, again IF you have the aiming skills for it.

I have always stated that if you are really skilled, the Scout is the best gun of all time. To me it is; I love it -- people hate it for some reason, but I like to be able to move, scoped in, and just shoot at their head when they appear in my screen. They whine, and cry; say it's luck -- but really they have no valid excuse.

Fluffy Frufflebottoms
12-14-2010, 12:57 PM
The scout is only good on semi-open maps. On maps like cbble, the inherent inaccuracy is too significant, and the added mobility is of little worth when compared to the perfect accuracy and bodyshot kills of the AWM.

A Baby
12-14-2010, 03:27 PM
The scout is only good on semi-open maps. On maps like cbble, the inherent inaccuracy is too significant, and the added mobility is of little worth when compared to the perfect accuracy and bodyshot kills of the AWM.

Fluffy, I don't have issues with that. I can walk around a corner; listening to sound and pop someone in the head no matter where they are positioned. Play with me in Pub one day and you'll see my Scout skills.

No matter what map it is, I can own with the Scout. =D

Fluffy Frufflebottoms
12-14-2010, 08:20 PM
Fluffy, I don't have issues with that. I can walk around a corner; listening to sound and pop someone in the head no matter where they are positioned. Play with me in Pub one day and you'll see my Scout skills.

No matter what map it is, I can own with the Scout. =D

No amount of skill or sound can compensate for an inherent inaccuracy that's unpredictable in any practical fashion. The Scout is a nice weapon, but it's foolish to argue that it's reliably accurate over the longer distances that you get on, for example, cbble, and in Aztec water. Even long A pit to A site on Dust2 is far enough for the Scout to be less than perfect.

Tickle Me Emo
12-15-2010, 01:46 PM
No amount of skill or sound can compensate for an inherent inaccuracy that's unpredictable in any practical fashion. The Scout is a nice weapon, but it's foolish to argue that it's reliably accurate over the longer distances that you get on, for example, cbble, and in Aztec water. Even long A pit to A site on Dust2 is far enough for the Scout to be less than perfect.

You know what's funny, my best Scout-only round was on cbble.. I forget the exacts, but I had 0 deaths and something like 38 kills. Not that that's terribly awesome for lolpubs, just a thought.

Not directed at anyone in particular, some of my general thoughts:

The key to Scout is to not camp like a bitch AWPer. Mobility is why the Scout is better (well, better in my opinion), and if you don't move you're wasting the primary advantage of using the weaker gun. Many people don't seem to understand this; they try to use the Scout like it's a cheaper AWP, then complain that it sucks when they get killed. If you identify an AWP camper's location, use your mobility to move around their area of coverage. Don't engage an AWP at a range that disadvantages you, unless you have no other choice. If you're routinely engaging AWPs at long range and losing, the problem is you, not the gun.

Another problem that comes to mind is that many people are bad at no-scope shots. If you ever hope to be good with a scout, you should practice these - they'll save your life when you get jumped at close range, and can even be good for reflex shooting when popping in and out of cover at medium ranges. If you can find a 24/7 scoutzknivez server, that is an ideal practice ground for no-scoping. Please note, putting a piece of colored tape in the middle of your screen doesn't make you good, it makes you a terrible, terrible noob.

EDIT: Oh, and you need to aim at the head with a scout, not just anywhere but their toes as with the AWP. That's right, you have to be able to aim with a sniper, zomg.

Fluffy Frufflebottoms
12-15-2010, 01:58 PM
You know what's funny, my best Scout-only round was on cbble.. I forget the exacts, but I had 0 deaths and something like 38 kills. Not that that's terribly awesome for lolpubs, just a thought.

If you had played someone with equal skill using an AWM, however, you would most certainly have been mowed down. No matter how well some individuals can put the scout to use, it's no coincidence that the AWM is chosen over the scout on every occasion in competitive play.

The scout is a fantastic weapon if all you have is $3,500, and the map accommodates it, but that's it.

DJ_MikeyRevile
12-16-2010, 02:18 PM
this is a toughie.. i see people relating ther efav GG gun to other types of servers...

well.. when it comes to gg id say my fav and most accurate within my current capabilities are any level between Dualies and glock
once im on pistols im a force not to be reckon with but my best pistol is either the compact or the 5seven (5 seven being my first weapon achivemnt after the mass update xD)

A Baby
12-17-2010, 06:22 PM
If you had played someone with equal skill using an AWM, however, you would most certainly have been mowed down. No matter how well some individuals can put the scout to use, it's no coincidence that the AWM is chosen over the scout on every occasion in competitive play.

The scout is a fantastic weapon if all you have is $3,500, and the map accommodates it, but that's it.

Using the Scout as corner camping and moving around with quick-scopes is the way to go. I can run into people head on; they have an AK, I have a Scout, and quick-scope them in the face. They cry -- game-over. It's just one of those guns I suppose I have perfected.

My opinion is based solely on a bias, so whether it's an actual basis to go off in what the best gun is; is up to mechanics. The AK technically has a great advantage over the Scout, but I really think it just goes more to who's using the weapons. Each person has their own preference. =D

elpolloloco
12-19-2010, 12:41 PM
For close range maps like office, I hate to say this, but the auto shotty is good.

I hate the auto shotty though. Real men use single pumps :)

BaL-|-imore
02-07-2011, 03:25 PM
Pump/Dualies is a great combo.

It really depends on the map though.

Without question, the worst gun in CS.S is the awp. Yeah...yeah....yeah, "it's part of the game". If it's part of the game, then why does IBIS limit it to one, well everyone with a pre-frontal cortex knows that servers turn into a Richard Simmons work out video without awp restrictions.

Yes, it's part of the game, just the worst part of the game. Nobody can go bouncing around point and click with a 50 cal like that. It's dumber than Sarah Palin's 5th child. In the miltary that gun takes a while to set up in position, check wind/distance conditions, all while using a spotter to help aim.

In reality, the awp is bad for the game all around. It's so easy to get kills using it that people take the path of least resistance basically only learning how to be an awp whore without ever learning the subtleties of other aspects of the game such as a rush attack.


BOOM HEADSHOT!!!

OMGBEARS
02-08-2011, 02:47 AM
There's a reason why most professional CSS teams only have 1 guy on AWP. It's not a bad weapon- although it might be over used on public servers. Saying it's the worst part of the game and downgrading its realism is simply uninformed of the actual situation. The AWP is a good weapon, and serves a purpose on most maps. A professional player with an AWP is deadly, but no more so than a professional with an AK or with a deagle. A good AWP'r is awesome to spec and can pull of some amazing feats.

In my own opinion, it's some kind of odd pub server elitism that spends all of its rage on the AWP so it can feel good about itself.

In other news-
best weapon combo for close combat maps- P90, and Deagle
best weapon combo for open combat maps- AK47, and I really like the P228 for the backup. Large ammo capacity helps.

OR- AWP, deagle combo in the hands of a great player. A noob will just shart all over the place with it.

Worst combo- klobb and slappers only (lolgoldeneye)

For real worst combo- M249 PARA, and Glock.

BaL-|-imore
02-08-2011, 08:29 AM
There's a reason why most professional CSS teams only have 1 guy on AWP. It's not a bad weapon- although it might be over used on public servers. Saying it's the worst part of the game and downgrading its realism is simply uninformed of the actual situation. The AWP is a good weapon, and serves a purpose on most maps. A professional player with an AWP is deadly, but no more so than a professional with an AK or with a deagle. A good AWP'r is awesome to spec and can pull of some amazing feats.

In my own opinion, it's some kind of odd pub server elitism that spends all of its rage on the AWP so it can feel good about itself.

In other news-
best weapon combo for close combat maps- P90, and Deagle
best weapon combo for open combat maps- AK47, and I really like the P228 for the backup. Large ammo capacity helps.

OR- AWP, deagle combo in the hands of a great player. A noob will just shart all over the place with it.

Worst combo- klobb and slappers only (lolgoldeneye)

For real worst combo- M249 PARA, and Glock.

I do not disagree with your argument that a skilled player using an awp can be a deadly combination and that it serves a role, though a limited one that can be replaced with someone skilled with a scout. I do not complain about a skill player picking up an AWP from time to time. But, to merely dismiss the argument as some sort of "pub server elitism" is an ad hominem. The fact is, it's bad for the game. New players pick up the AWP because it allows for them to start getting a positive ratio quickly. They never learn to use other weapons and when they can't get their hands on an AWP get bored and quit playing CS. I'm not proposing to remove the AWP, but I do think we should encourage new players to learn to use TMPs, MACs, and MP5s first. Learning to use those weapons skillfully open up a whole new level of fun the game offers. I'm happy with the 1 AWP restriction. It's just the worst part of CS, because of the reason stated and it's the least realistic weapon in the game, thus making it the worst gun in the game.

I use to hate the glock, but now find it one of my new favorite pistols. I love putting on the burst option and watching heads explode.

I also think the FAMAS is a bad weapon for the speed limitation associated with it, but the accuracy on the burst feature make up some ground on that limitation.

The size of the magazine for the P90 makes it a premier rush weapon.

:3VOLV3D:
02-08-2011, 10:08 AM
My fav's in this order:

AK47
Deagle
P90
M4
Scout
USP
Glock

That being said..I sure miss running around with a Deagle and a shield..:assault:

jonny5v
02-08-2011, 02:09 PM
Glock.

BallsMcGEE
02-15-2011, 12:39 PM
the best gun?


The one that's in my hands