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hallwagner
12-19-2010, 04:39 PM
admins ingame name: omgbears ibis.a
my ingame name: -√A™/A/Hallwagner|MD|{ßɱ}
how did he she abuse: was banned 30 mins for saying "bad admin" about three times, after the admin freezed a person who was breaking my cade. this freeze led to further complications in the making of my cade. i believe this complaint was totally justified.
proof: happened around 4:30 pm today. numerous witnesses including alex mamaroneck, sazir, chimonah, toasties, and inny. im not looking to get unbanned or even have the admin get in trouble, i just want to point out what goes on in zm, even AFTER i lost MY admin

OMGBEARS
12-19-2010, 04:46 PM
I warned you first after I froze the cade breaker and you started shouting "BAD ADMIN" repeatedly - then upon you berating me further I kicked you. After warning you a final time I banned you for 30 minutes for admin disrespect.

This is not the first time you've so blatantly lashed out at admins. It just so happens that I won't take your shit. I did overstep the general protocol for dealing with mic spammers and people who disrespect admins, however in this unique case I felt as though the increased severity of my reaction was justified.

Admins will not be bullied by you, Hallwagner. I've supported you in the past, and even have backed you up. However, when I see blatant bullying, and such a complete disrespect for admins and players in general, I must respond appropriately.

See you in 20 minutes when your ban is up.

-=NYS=- C.O.
12-19-2010, 05:37 PM
I would have banned you too. Stop instigating and you will be fine.

THE HOLY SH**T!
12-19-2010, 05:49 PM
hall stop posting pointless admin abuse threads. Fagner....

hallwagner
12-19-2010, 08:22 PM
I warned you first after I froze the cade breaker and you started shouting "BAD ADMIN" repeatedly - then upon you berating me further I kicked you. After warning you a final time I banned you for 30 minutes for admin disrespect.

This is not the first time you've so blatantly lashed out at admins. It just so happens that I won't take your shit. I did overstep the general protocol for dealing with mic spammers and people who disrespect admins, however in this unique case I felt as though the increased severity of my reaction was justified.

Admins will not be bullied by you, Hallwagner. I've supported you in the past, and even have backed you up. However, when I see blatant bullying, and such a complete disrespect for admins and players in general, I must respond appropriately.

See you in 20 minutes when your ban is up.

ok, 1st you only warned me about 1 second before you banned me, giving me no time to react to your warning in any way. 2nd, the way you dealt with the cade breaker was not helpful at all. i know this doesn't give me the right to disrespect you in any way, shape, or form, but i would appreciate it if you dealt with cadebreakers in a more appropriate manner next time, and i know for a fact most of the regulars feel the same way i do about cadebreaking protocol. freezing him only worsened the situation, making it harder to complete my cade. next time i request that you ban, kick, or move the person to spec. considering that this individual has cadebroken more than once, i would say a ban is in order.

maynard
12-20-2010, 05:11 AM
you admited 2 insulting an admin, fail thread.. as always.

and as NYS said, I woulda bannd you 2.

OMGBEARS
12-20-2010, 03:19 PM
This is not the first time I've seen you do this sort of thing, Hall. You bully admins into doing things for you. For instance, when I mentioned that I wouldn't ban someone simply because you asked me, you then asked me if you should "find an admin who wants to do their job."

Frankly I should have been more harsh there but I gave you a warning instead.

While $11/month doesn't buy you respect, admins are essentially extensions of ZERO. He cannot be online and in 4 places 24/7, so he relies on us not only to help support the servers financially, but also to get the job done and to maintain the quality of play on our servers. I do take the role of admin very seriously, and I would like to think that one complaint in two years supports that.

I don't ask for respect, but I do ask for players to follow the rules they agree to follow when they join.

-=NYS=- C.O.
12-20-2010, 03:29 PM
We all know hallwagner, and we know how hallwagner is. He doesn't mince words.

$11/month doesn't get you respect. You don't buy respect - you earn it. Admin disrespect is a joke imo unless you're talking about zero. This technically isn't abuse as its in the rules, but this ban wasn't deserved.

<This post is pure opinion>

Hey jerkoff. Your words don't mean shit here.

Vladninja
12-20-2010, 03:55 PM
We all know hallwagner, and we know how hallwagner is. He doesn't mince words.

$11/month doesn't get you respect. You don't buy respect - you earn it. Admin disrespect is a joke imo unless you're talking about zero. This technically isn't abuse as its in the rules, but this ban wasn't deserved.

<This post is pure opinion>

^ What NYS said. your not gonna get very far with that kind of mind set.
There are tons of admins on ibis that pay $11 a month (not for respect) simply to help the server and the players who enjoy the game and follow the rules.
Being an admin means frequently taking time away from enjoying the game to handle stupid situations caused by people who either unknowingly or belligerently break the rules.

Look at it this way.... Think of this as a school.
A student is acting up.... your pretty much saying that the teacher (admin or clan) doesn't deserve respect.
That the only person that deserves any respect is the principle (Zero). Now does that really make sense to you!?!

hallwagner
12-20-2010, 04:22 PM
^ What NYS said. your not gonna get very far with that kind of mind set.
There are tons of admins on ibis that pay $11 a month (not for respect) simply to help the server and the players who enjoy the game and follow the rules.
Being an admin means frequently taking time away from enjoying the game to handle stupid situations caused by people who either unknowingly or belligerently break the rules. Look at it this way.... Think of this as a school.
A student is acting up.... your pretty much saying that the teacher (admin or clan) doesn't deserve respect.
That the only person that deserves any respect is the principle (Zero). Now does that really make sense to you!?!

And that's just what i would like bears to do next time. bears, i apologize for disrespecting you, but maybe if you did your job next time (what a revelation) people (not only me) wouldnt get to the point where they feel they need to disrespect you. (again, not right, and obviously against the rules, but also human nature. if someone who's in a place of authority is not doing their job correctly, and therefore making you stop having a good time, what other reaction is there than to get pissed?)

hallwagner
12-20-2010, 06:50 PM
No, I won't think of this as school. This is Counter-Strike. Admins = "teachers"? Uhhh...

Oh and thanks for your opinion, NYS. Whatever I did to upset you other than stating my own opinion, I'd appreciate it if you'd remove that sizable stick from your rectal cavity - its unbecoming.

dont say that to nys, unless you want to be quickly removed of your admin duties, and have a stick up your ass

hallwagner
12-20-2010, 06:59 PM
Like I said before, in my eyes respect is earned. If he's in a position of power and sees fit to remove mine because he doesn't like how I do or view things, that's his prerogative, but I don't bow to people who's first response to disagreement is insult. Especially on the internet.

My post was opinion, not me trying to push people around. If he thinks that makes me a jerkoff then whatever, but don't ask me to kiss his ass because he has pull around here.

well nys is NOT an admin, he is a clanmember, and although he has admin too, he HAS earned his respect and is supposed to be treated as such. (i can't believe im defending you nys :reddot:)

XX0wnsXY
12-20-2010, 07:31 PM
Typical hall admin abuse thread "I got banned for disrespecting an admin, waaaah wahhhhh abuse" .. the next day "I apologize for disrespecting you, Let me kiss a little ass for a while and repeat the cycle over and over".

hallwagner
12-20-2010, 08:14 PM
Typical hall admin abuse thread "I got banned for disrespecting an admin, waaaah wahhhhh abuse" .. the next day "I apologize for disrespecting you, Let me kiss a little ass for a while and repeat the cycle over and over".

lololol, looks sorta like...the admin abuse threads against me.....*gasp

edit: also, if you read the thread and weren't such a judgemental bitch, you would realize your statement is incorrect

XX0wnsXY
12-20-2010, 08:32 PM
lololol, looks sorta like...the admin abuse threads against me.....*gasp

edit: also, if you read the thread and weren't such a judgemental bitch, you would realize your statement is incorrect

lmfao. Sounds like you're mad. I actually did read the thread and I came to this conclusion. You admitted to disrespecting the guy, then you apologized. Done and done.

XX0wnsXY
12-20-2010, 08:36 PM
That's funny the first time I ever interact with the guy he calls me a jerkoff for no reason. Last time I checked that wasn't earning respect. That's called being a douchebag.

Don't listen to what wagner says. That's just him kissing ass, once again.

hallwagner
12-20-2010, 08:43 PM
Don't listen to what wagner says. That's just him kissing ass, once again.

again, lolol at your lack of knowledge

edit: its amazing how many admins ibis has that have abused as much or more than i did.

XX0wnsXY
12-20-2010, 08:55 PM
again, lolol at your lack of knowledge

edit: its amazing how many admins ibis has that have abused as much or more than i did.

It's amazing how you always use that as a defense whenever someone says something about you. yeah right, kid.

Vladninja
12-21-2010, 02:48 AM
Well the ban is up and this thread is now being closed.

Hallwagner its getting old man...
I've playd with you and had no problems... but this bullshit of trying to call every admin out cause they are "abusing worse than you did" is so fucking old and tiring by now its not even funny.