GSOMAN-ibis.a Abuse

[NakedSaturday]

Admin's INGAME name: GSOMAN-ibis.a
You're INGAME name:: Naked Saturday

How did he/she abuse: I was banned permanently for not giving him the mp5 on zm_urban_downtown_v2

Proof: I was banned at roughly 11:55 AM EST on 1/18/11

[-LZ-]

yeah why does Hallwagner have admin again???

[Nogata]

yeah if you take a look on the stats you will see hellwagner and gsom has the same ip thought i would point it out.

[gsoman007]

Admin's INGAME name: GSOMAN-ibis.a
You're INGAME name:: Naked Saturday

How did he/she abuse: I was banned permanently for not giving him the mp5 on zm_urban_downtown_v2

Proof: I was banned at roughly 11:55 AM EST on 1/18/11

ok i've been found out, so i am fucked, oh well. as a parting statement i would like to say the ban was for 2 hours. i dont know why you thought it was perma, i would consider that a form of player/admin disrespect. not that it matters, but i have yet to truly admin abuse on an ibis server on either account. look back thru my old abuse threads on my other account. there was only like 1 legit one and it was pretty weak. this thread is weak as hell too, no abuse. i know im most likely gonna be permabanned from all servers, so i would like to apologize to saturday, even tho it really wasnt abuse

[NakedSaturday]

I was unaware of the duration of the ban and do not think you should be banned from the ibis server. I do however cringe at the thought of you with admin powers...

[Shade]

Because logically when you plan to trick the head admins into regaining your admin, they'll just turn the other cheek, right? Then once you get it back, you start abusing players because you didn't get your way (you whiny lil bitch); and you play the "admin respect" card each time somebody calls you on something you've done wrong.

Let me make something clear: Respect is 'earned', not appointed because you're in control of the ban-hammer. If you've paid for admin, and you invent false accusations to gain from another plays misfortune, by any means to benefit you, why should you deserve any respect?

You threatend -LZ-, and banned Naked Saturday for unjustified reasons, and in conciquence my friend you've learned the true meaning of "causality".

Shade out!

[maynard]

wanger, you wrote the book on fail lawl....

looks like operation get a new name and start abusing under that name didn't last 2 long eh? lol... fail.

[brentidge]

i motion to keep wagner he is fun :wtg:

[gsoman007]

Because logically when you plan to trick the head admins into regaining your admin, they'll just turn the other cheek, right? Then once you get it back, you start abusing players because you didn't get your way (you whiny lil bitch); and you play the "admin respect" card each time somebody calls you on something you've done wrong.

Let me make something clear: Respect is 'earned', not appointed because you're in control of the ban-hammer. If you've paid for admin, and you invent false accusations to gain from another plays misfortune, by any means to benefit you, why should you deserve any respect?

You threatend -LZ-, and banned Naked Saturday for unjustified reasons, and in conciquence my friend you've learned the true meaning of "causality".

Shade out!
never threatened lz, and i only banned saturday because he pulled a real dick move, i consider that the exact same shit as cade breaking or blocking


i motion to keep wagner he is fun :wtg:

thank you, but you're one of the few :p

[NakedSaturday]

I second the motion to keep him, just please for the love of god, don't let him have admin

[acolyte_to_jippity]

yes, ropping the mp5 of immortality on the fail map is the same as cadebreaking...

sure.
see, i view it as not abusing a glitch in a piece of shit map that should be remove immediately.

since glitching is not allowed, and giving the gun around to pass the immortality on is quite obviously a glitch

[Shade]

Firstly, I'm pretty certain -LZ- wouldn't make things up; besides we've already discussed what you've been doing, and they have witnesses. Also, regardless of what you 'consider' cade breaking/blocking, the rules and your feelings are both seperate; and you've still failed to justify your actions, therefore banning Naked Saturday was a "real dick move", and considered admin abuse.

If you want to treat is as cade breaking, I'll see it as indifferent and throw this in your face; since you won't see otherwise.

The rule is: The first person to build a cade, owns the rights to that cade; and if say you, or any other person destroys it, that's a warning, possibly followed by a ban. If the person in the cade opens it back up to let you enter, that's their own choice.

So, picture the last scenario as an example: If Naked Saturday, or whomever it may be reaches the 'special weapon' on urban_downtown, or if it's any item on any map; if you're too late to grab it, and the person who has possession of the gun isn't in a sharing mood, well tough titty for you then ain't it?
Banning him for not sharing the gun, is as ignorant as him building a cade, and just because you were to late to get inside 'expect' to be given entance; and if he refuses, you'll ban him.

If you want to go into a corner and QQ because you're too much of a n00b to grow a pair, and quit your whining; whenever we play a map you're not that familiar with, or don't have advantage on, you sit there like an idiot shouting "RTV" over the mic. This server is for all players, this server isn't built to serve you; so if you don't like it, suck it up buttercup, because we'll still be having fun killing zambies while you're sulking in spectator.

Also, threatening those players with ban is outright abusive anyway. Makes you look like a power tripping cop. Especially when they're innocent, and you can't give a justified excuse to ban them.

-Shade

[maynard]

he should have his admin removed and be removed from the community. he's caused enough problems... and the fact he's been stripped of admin, and is now trying 2 sneak around behind ppls back with it again is really no diff then when you mute a person, and they leave and re join 2 bypass the mute. he's literally ignored zero's decision and is trying 2 get around it. such actions should be punished.

[kenneth918237]

he should have his admin removed and be removed from the community. he's caused enough problems... and the fact he's been stripped of admin, and is now trying 2 sneak around behind ppls back with it again is really no diff then when you mute a person, and they leave and re join 2 bypass the mute. he's literally ignored zero's decision and is trying 2 get around it. such actions should be punished.

i agree take it away he only gets admin to abuse and change the maps 2 maps only he wants to play for his rank

[BladeTwinSwords]

I think we should:

A. Remove his admin
B. Remove him from the community
C. Reset his ZMOD and GG stats to 0

Hallwagner, you done fucked up big time.

[kenneth918237]

I think we should:

A. Remove his admin
B. Remove him from the community
C. Reset his ZMOD and GG stats to 0

Hallwagner, you done fucked up big time.

and maybe 7day bann

[maynard]

and maybe 7day bann

remove him from the community means bannd from the forums and all ibis servers.

[kenneth918237]

remove him from the community means bannd from the forums and all ibis servers.

oke then i agree

[Hitman]

And the funny part is that peole said he changed......LOL

Once an asshole always an asshole I say.....

Since he did have probation before and still probably is on probation.....this just makes i a ban from the community

[gsoman007]

there is almost no justified reason my admin got taken away in the first place, i know its zeros decision, and i respect the fact that a clan owner takes initiative in keeping his servers clean. the part that i think is bs is the fact that 90% of my admin abuse threads were untrue, justified, or later proven to be NOT against the rules. the remaining admin abuse threads (maybe thread) were so minor it can barely be considered abuse. i implore you, go back thru all my admin abuse threads and find ONE serious and factual one. i know its old news, but i'd say 75% of the admins here currently have abused more than me. the only reason i bought admin this time was to do something about all the cadebreakers, douchebags, mic spammers and hackers in zm. i dont appreciate your false statements about abuse against lz, and the claim that i change maps in order to improve my rank. i think i only changed the map with admin powers once, and that is because i was asked to by multiple people. i dont really care if i get banned or whatever, because i know the reason i lost admin was bogus, and the reason i bought admin for a second time was good-hearted. as i said before, review all my previous admin abuse threads and make a persuasive statement about how i'm a bad admin, i challenge you.

[Hitman]

there is almost no justified reason my admin got taken away in the first place, i know its zeros decision, and i respect the fact that a clan owner takes initiative in keeping his servers clean. the part that i think is bs is the fact that 90% of my admin abuse threads were untrue, justified, or later proven to be NOT against the rules. the remaining admin abuse threads (maybe thread) were so minor it can barely be considered abuse. i implore you, go back thru all my admin abuse threads and find ONE serious and factual one. i know its old news, but i'd say 75% of the admins here currently have abused more than me. the only reason i bought admin this time was to do something about all the cadebreakers, douchebags, mic spammers and hackers in zm. i dont appreciate your false statements about abuse against lz, and the claim that i change maps in order to improve my rank. i think i only changed the map with admin powers once, and that is because i was asked to by multiple people. i dont really care if i get banned or whatever, because i know the reason i lost admin was bogus, and the reason i bought admin for a second time was good-hearted. as i said before, review all my previous admin abuse threads and make a persuasive statement about how i'm a bad admin, i challenge you.


How fucking stupid can this kid be honestly?

Zero deemed you untrustworthy to have admin commands so he took them away vowing to never give you admin powers back....

NOW you go behind his abck create a fake account just to get your admin back?

What do you think hes going to do?

Its not the fact that you abused your admin, but how you used it. your actions reflect this server.

Just because you lie so much and are a scumbag to do something like this, I have to believe all your admin abuse posts are real.


+1 TO BAN THIS FOOL

[maynard]

I like how he qq's about fail ban threads, yet he's created the most fail ban threads on people out of any 1 in this community Lol.

[Spasm]

How you guna get admin again and tell somebody...lmao. Shoulda kept your mouth closed on that one.

[CYBER]

ok here is the thing:
- hall u shouldnt have went behind ppl's back to make another account and have admin...

- i do not see the latest "abuse" as a bad abuse whatsoever, he was banned for a couple hours only for hogging the mp5 and not sharing... not a reason to ban for a long time...sure... but it was just a couple hours for smthn that is yet to be decided bannable or not as this is a new scenario. again , idnt know how zm works tho...but i mean naked saturday coudve went and wanked off for a couple hours and come back to play... it was a confusion with a perma, and fagner apologized to him and its cool between them

- wagner shouldve went more discretly about having another account... and its a lame thing.

- THAT SAID, i personally checked the admin abuses quickly, and to be honest? most admin abuses against him were no more serious than the ones hallwagner HIMSELF made of other admins... and those were discarded way faster than hallwagners...
hallwagner, dont think im defending u , u did give a bad first, second and endless impression to the community, people dont trust u around with admin... and can u blame them really?

- i like it when kenneth, taz and others are voting u off, when they were in the same predicament... funny...


so bottom line, not trying to go against anyone here, and i know that hall's actions might be deemed as a try to decieve the community, specially zero....
BUT, hall's previous admin abuses werent all legit to be honest... and as much as i would agree with most that he is a bit sketchy regarding admin... however, its been a LONG time since then, rules changed, ppl changed... and hall might have thought to start on a clean slate without other ppl stalking him about it...

so, i wouldnt be surprised if he got banned from around ibis... but instead, i'm voting for another motion,
give him another chance? remove ALLLLLLL ban powers, rcon AND any features admins get, let him keep only the essentials since he spends a lot of time in zmod...
IF he does ANYTHING sketchy, perma ban him from the community! easy as that... its been a while since he fucked up, he was a NEW ADMIN back then... now he had the chance to grow up... i hope, and u can see from the unban thread on nakedSaturday that he is trying to take the high road...
or at least if u guys dnt trust him as admin... let him stick around... he's fun to kill..

that said... i wouldnt be surprised if ppl's grudge ended up banning him...
hall u should have went about this the other way... hope that zero is in a gd mood...try not to fuck up anymore tho... im risking a lot by saying that u should try to start clean... even when i am affraid myself of saying so.

[maynard]

hall lost his admin for lots of diff reasons, the main reason him being a snake and not trust worthy. do you honestly think zero would just remove his admin for no reason lol?

you honestly want 2 reward what he just did!? are you brain damaged cyber? lmfao, yeah he undermined zero's personal decision, and knows damn well he was doing it, and that what he was doing was a serious problem, hence his admittance right away and stating that he's prob gonna get bannd from everything now... and you want 2 reward this guy... wow.

[inthebutt]

seriously??

:banghead:

[BladeTwinSwords]

hall lost his admin for lots of diff reasons, the main reason him being a snake and not trust worthy. do you honestly think zero would just remove his admin for no reason lol?

you honestly want 2 reward what he just did!? are you brain damaged cyber? lmfao, yeah he undermined zero's personal decision, and knows damn well he was doing it, and that what he was doing was a serious problem, hence his admittance right away and stating that he's prob gonna get bannd from everything now... and you want 2 reward this guy... wow.

Exactly.

Hall got his admin removed for several reasons

1. Using commands on other admins
2. Racist remarks towards players AND admins
3. Being a dumbass

He even TOLD me that he was going to just make another account to get admin. Several times.

[CYBER]

Exactly.

Hall got his admin removed for several reasons

1. Using commands on other admins
2. Racist remarks towards players AND admins
3. Being a dumbass

He even TOLD me that he was going to just make another account to get admin. Several times.

oh well...
cant say i didnt try to go easy on the bastard :P

maynard, am not talking about rewarding... im talknig about retribution.
then again he got lots of chances...
im just not the kind of guy that likes perma banning ppl i enjoy killing :smirk: that is all :P

its not my call nways, my opinion does not matter nways in this issue, im just stating why he might have done this... ppl treated him and taz the same, in his mind he thinks that he got fucked while taz is still enjoying his admin / (no offence taz, just saying what he might be saying)

oh well...

[acolyte_to_jippity]

one reaches a point where it's no longer viable to give more chances. he's had plenty, never shaped up. now, this. it's time to accept that he's not going to change.

[CYBER]

arghhh...
fagner u just had to dig that hole deeper... :(

aco, u still suck :P but i get ur point lol

[gsoman007]

Exactly.

Hall got his admin removed for several reasons

1. Using commands on other admins
2. Racist remarks towards players AND admins
3. Being a dumbass

He even TOLD me that he was going to just make another account to get admin. Several times.

1. when that SINGLE incident happened, i didnt know that was againts admin rules, that was in the first week or so of me having admin (on my first go-around), i havent done it since then except for beacons and minor things
2. RARELY were those racist remarks directed towards anyone specifically, and while people still saw it as abuse, it was later proven by zero himself to be not against the rules.
3. i'm a dumbass by nature and you know that

[mcilwain]

1. when that SINGLE incident happened, i didnt know that was againts admin rules, that was in the first week or so of me having admin (on my first go-around), i havent done it since then except for beacons and minor things
2. RARELY were those racist remarks directed towards anyone specifically, and while people still saw it as abuse, it was later proven by zero himself to be not against the rules.
3. i'm a dumbass by nature and you know that
I think you should lose your admin and even be perma banned already you caused shit around ibis and i could go back and count your abuse threads but personally your wrecking the fun of people and the admin's gaming time on ibis servers and we cant enjoy gaming while your around saying racist remarks and even directed it at people and you even used admins against people if you didn't get your way. And since your telling people you got a new account im sure zero is going to remove that one too and probably ban you. :stupid:

[taz1stP]

drop the ban hammer on him for going behind zeros back

[ZERO]

Both accounts are now baned from the servers. Trying to by pass admin removal shows that rather than remove it in the first place I should have just removed you. The fact that you also did this knowing that I was on vacation and would not be able to fully check the order over shows even more how you tired to bypass the system.

[BladeTwinSwords]

May I say a few small words before this gets closed.

Hall, just remember, YOU brought this down on yourself. Now you will have to live with the fact that you betrayed the trust of EVERYONE in Ibis.

[maynard]

Both accounts are now baned from the servers. Trying to by pass admin removal shows that rather than remove it in the first place I should have just removed you. The fact that you also did this knowing that I was on vacation and would not be able to fully check the order over shows even more how you tired to bypass the system.

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[Hitman]

THANK FUCKING GOD!!! TOO BAD IM STUCK AT WORK TILL 7AM.....OTHERWISE I WOULD CELEBRATE...

But you know that he will get another account and it wqill only be a matter of time before he gets another account.

[BladeTwinSwords]

THANK FUCKING GOD!!! TOO BAD IM STUCK AT WORK TILL 7AM.....OTHERWISE I WOULD CELEBRATE...

But you know that he will get another account and it wqill only be a matter of time before he gets another account.

Not if you IP ban him and any IP addresses near him

[taz1stP]

Not if you IP ban him and any IP addresses near him

you can change your ip its not hard

[BladeTwinSwords]

you can change your ip its not hard

Well then I'll just harass him on Facebook :P

[Hitman]

he has no life so u know he will be back :) :smirk: and we will make him feel like shit for it too