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Deathrow
01-21-2011, 01:01 AM
I'm calling you out Mikey, I have no disrespect for any of the admins but I do have an issue with you. You constantly disrespect other players and make perposterous assumptions. You constantly cuss at people and finger point, but yet you don't know the whole story. You say stuff towards other people and expect them to curl under your feet and do nothing about it. You're HIGHLY immature and disrespectful, and if I'm banned for stating this. So be it, but I'm just stating my feelings behind this whole situation. I'm putting facts behind this and everything I have is proof.

You (Mikey) state to me today, "I know you have played with the names Epic-fail, Mickey's, deathrow, and heineken. I've spoken to admins about your past and I have a demo. I'm reporting you to Zero" It may be true that I've used those names in the past, but there is nothing that show I'm a hacker. Then you state things as if you know me personally throught that. I got some words for you, "You will never know me Mikey and never will." A possible hacker but nothing that has No grounds to stand.

Plus, I took some personal time to looks things up, just because I was interested to see what was on my "Wrap Sheet" (SteamID). The only thing I found on this steamID, was: "http://www.snk-klan.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=22739&highlight=0" Do I remember this? Hell No, could have been possible that they assumed wall hacks? Yes, obivously because even this server has done it. Yet its obvious that I've gotten worse since I destroyed my headset. That was my best way of hearing where footsteps were coming from and I screwed myself over.... But you assumed it was because someone knew that I was deathrow. This has nothing to do with it but yet you don't consider that people do have anger problems. I've never hit anyone over anger (besides siblings), but I do take it out my anger on nonliving objects. So please stop trying to put that on my so called, "Wrap Sheet". That I destroyed my headset because someone found out that I'm Deathrow (on another account).

So all your rude displays, your assumptions, your finger pointing, your insulting constantly, and your idle threats are getting out of hand. You tell everyone, because of minor issues... You do this, your banned. You do that, your banned. You do this, your F-n banned.... When they are small issues and yet you make them into something monsterous. If it were me and again, I state this in a "IF" situation. I would take your admin privilages away because of immaturity, and the inability to consider all situations.

PS- I give you this much to you... Your witty, but you fail to make the puzzle pieces fall into place on multipul occasions. You state one thing and then another... inconsistency is a bitch, eh Mikey?

You banned me a couple of day ago for 5 min, I except that and I think you handled that considerably well. I will not fight you for that, but your constant bickering and finger pointing is out of hand.
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Btw, the Deathrow account shows this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=STEAM_0%3A1%3A29018950&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

Warcraft Source: Azeroth - No proof, they have a race that gets you stuck in the air and I tried to fire then got banned by the server. Thats why it hasn't went any further and there is no one fighting it. They just assume their system is correct and well. I wasn't mad at all and they aren't (thats if you've notice). No need to... So insufficient information on this site.

www.syndicate-gamers.net - Fishy but no proof. I play the game through sound and I'm more then happy to explain every step of my system of assumptions (possible enemy detection system). 1st sound, 2nd minimap, and 3rd check. Steps I take, before taking action. Sorry, Insufficient information here.

GzN - OMG, you can't play a race after you get a certain ratio of kills/deaths. I got mad and didn't want anything to do with GzN after the whole ordeal blew out of proportion. Even if this does show possible admin disrespect, it isn't justification for a ban.

Noobfest -2010-02-15 19:50:04 DaemonPowered STEAM_0:1:29018950 PERM Coach Undefined NEVER. They have nothing on me with this site, and tell you the truth. I remember the name of the site, just not sure what happened. Been years since I've seen that server (on CS) name before. Even if, it shows you that I just didn't purchase that account, which you stated. This account is almost a year old. Still, again... No justification of hacks.
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The point I'm coming down to is, that Mikey is once again taking steps past reasonable accomidations. He went on the server and called me out afront of everyone. Telling me that he's reporting to Zero and that I'm going to get banned because he has some kind of crazy proof.

The only thing hes trying to do, is nail me for something and use other people as escape goats. He even tried to say, "Look, hes fighting because he knows that he isn't innocent." He just over all, dislikes me because he assumes I have mental problems and I'm a threaten his game play. I never done anything towards him besides pass a couple of messages (non-disrespetful) and sometimes cusswords back and fourth because he was say some excessively rude things. I admit it, I fought back a tad bit and then pull off because there is no reason fighting him or anyone else.

Please look into Mikeys Admin powers being taken away and consider this as a open door request. I'm not of any powers or probably never will be (because of bills and no money). Still, please look into this. Mikey has went overboard with this facination with me and is assuming way to much.

How bout this Mikey... Ive played since TF when it first came out and I played in DIAL UP. The first computer I played on, was a Tandy 5000. I've been playing MMORPGs, since D&D first came out and they said someone was so absorbed into it, that he killed his family (and its the devils work).

PS- I've been on this earth longer then you have, so at least give me that respect.

ZERO
01-21-2011, 01:17 AM
Too bad your VAC banned: http://steamcommunity.com/id/DaemonPowered/

Maybe I should ban you from the forums too?

Deathrow
01-21-2011, 01:20 AM
what?! LOL, I just can't log into the account. Give me some time, I will log onto that account tomorrow if I can get steam to pass me the info. I forgot the password. When you haven't logged out of an account for almost half a year and exit it. Theres a good chance you will forget the information.

Deathrow
01-21-2011, 01:29 AM
Steam really needs to have a phone number you can call... I tried this last time and failed on getting a number. You gotta send them a email, in order to get information. This way of doing things suck.

Deathrow
01-21-2011, 02:00 AM
(425) 889-9642
http://www.valvesoftware.com


lol, it sounds like the scientist off of HL2. Funny, but not the number I'm looking for -_-

Deathrow
01-21-2011, 02:42 AM
Once steam/valve resets my password and I'm able to log into my account. What exactly is going to happen with this mikey situation? Just wondering, because hes putting a lot of assumptions/accusations out on this forum. If hes willing to go full balls to the wall... will he smash into a wall if his information doesn't hold.

Getting my password fully reset might take a second. Since you have to use steam support and emails. I'm doing the best I can.

THE HOLY SH**T!
01-21-2011, 02:52 AM
I'm calling you out Mikey, I have no disrespect for any of the admins but I do have an issue with you. You constantly disrespect other players and make perposterous assumptions. You constantly cuss at people and finger point, but yet you don't know the whole story. You say stuff towards other people and expect them to curl under your feet and do nothing about it. You're HIGHLY immature and disrespectful, and if I'm banned for stating this. So be it, but I'm just stating my feelings behind this whole situation. I'm putting facts behind this and everything I have is proof.

You (Mikey) state to me today, "I know you have played with the names Epic-fail, Mickey's, deathrow, and heineken. I've spoken to admins about your past and I have a demo. I'm reporting you to Zero" It may be true that I've used those names in the past, but there is nothing that show I'm a hacker. Then you state things as if you know me personally throught that. I got some words for you, "You will never know me Mikey and never will." A possible hacker but nothing that has No grounds to stand.

Plus, I took some personal time to looks things up, just because I was interested to see what was on my "Wrap Sheet" (SteamID). The only thing I found on this steamID, was: "http://www.snk-klan.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=22739&highlight=0" Do I remember this? Hell No, could have been possible that they assumed wall hacks? Yes, obivously because even this server has done it. Yet its obvious that I've gotten worse since I destroyed my headset. That was my best way of hearing where footsteps were coming from and I screwed myself over.... But you assumed it was because someone knew that I was deathrow. This has nothing to do with it but yet you don't consider that people do have anger problems. I've never hit anyone over anger (besides siblings), but I do take it out my anger on nonliving objects. So please stop trying to put that on my so called, "Wrap Sheet". That I destroyed my headset because someone found out that I'm Deathrow (on another account).

So all your rude displays, your assumptions, your finger pointing, your insulting constantly, and your idle threats are getting out of hand. You tell everyone, because of minor issues... You do this, your banned. You do that, your banned. You do this, your F-n banned.... When they are small issues and yet you make them into something monsterous. If it were me and again, I state this in a "IF" situation. I would take your admin privilages away because of immaturity, and the inability to consider all situations.

PS- I give you this much to you... Your witty, but you fail to make the puzzle pieces fall into place on multipul occasions. You state one thing and then another... inconsistency is a bitch, eh Mikey?

You banned me a couple of day ago for 5 min, I except that and I think you handled that considerably well. I will not fight you for that, but your constant bickering and finger pointing is out of hand.
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Btw, the Deathrow account shows this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=STEAM_0%3A1%3A29018950&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

Warcraft Source: Azeroth - No proof, they have a race that gets you stuck in the air and I tried to fire then got banned by the server. Thats why it hasn't went any further and there is no one fighting it. They just assume their system is correct and well. I wasn't mad at all and they aren't (thats if you've notice). No need to... So insufficient information on this site.

www.syndicate-gamers.net - Fishy but no proof. I play the game through sound and I'm more then happy to explain every step of my system of assumptions (possible enemy detection system). 1st sound, 2nd minimap, and 3rd check. Steps I take, before taking action. Sorry, Insufficient information here.

GzN - OMG, you can't play a race after you get a certain ratio of kills/deaths. I got mad and didn't want anything to do with GzN after the whole ordeal blew out of proportion. Even if this does show possible admin disrespect, it isn't justification for a ban.

Noobfest -2010-02-15 19:50:04 DaemonPowered STEAM_0:1:29018950 PERM Coach Undefined NEVER. They have nothing on me with this site, and tell you the truth. I remember the name of the site, just not sure what happened. Been years since I've seen that server (on CS) name before. Even if, it shows you that I just didn't purchase that account, which you stated. This account is almost a year old. Still, again... No justification of hacks.
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The point I'm coming down to is, that Mikey is once again taking steps past reasonable accomidations. He went on the server and called me out afront of everyone. Telling me that he's reporting to Zero and that I'm going to get banned because he has some kind of crazy proof.

The only thing hes trying to do, is nail me for something and use other people as escape goats. He even tried to say, "Look, hes fighting because he knows that he isn't innocent." He just over all, dislikes me because he assumes I have mental problems and I'm a threaten his game play. I never done anything towards him besides pass a couple of messages (non-disrespetful) and sometimes cusswords back and fourth because he was say some excessively rude things. I admit it, I fought back a tad bit and then pull off because there is no reason fighting him or anyone else.

Please look into Mikeys Admin powers being taken away and consider this as a open door request. I'm not of any powers or probably never will be (because of bills and no money). Still, please look into this. Mikey has went overboard with this facination with me and is assuming way to much.

How bout this Mikey... Ive played since TF when it first came out and I played in DIAL UP. The first computer I played on, was a Tandy 5000. I've been playing MMORPGs, since D&D first came out and they said someone was so absorbed into it, that he killed his family (and its the devils work).

PS- I've been on this earth longer then you have, so at least give me that respect.

TL:dR

if he's steam ban get this joker the fuck out of here.

maynard
01-21-2011, 03:01 AM
TL:dR

if he's steam ban get this joker the fuck out of here.

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo230/ktown4life1337/funny_jim_carrey_dance.gif

THE HOLY SH**T!
01-21-2011, 03:54 AM
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo230/ktown4life1337/funny_jim_carrey_dance.gif

http://oi56.tinypic.com/o5rwg4.jpg

taz1stP
01-21-2011, 04:44 AM
http://oi56.tinypic.com/o5rwg4.jpg

where am i in that room

BladeTwinSwords
01-21-2011, 09:05 AM
where am i in that room

Oh my god this is so easy I'm not even going to try.

Andrew_Pavlik
01-21-2011, 09:40 AM
I knew reading this thread was the right thing to do.

Deathrow
01-21-2011, 10:50 AM
I once again, hate steam to their fullest. Not one email yet :banghead:

I've promised Zero I wouldn't enter the server till I got my account password reset and I show that Deathrow or daemonpowered account isn't VAC banned. Then I will be clear of that... So, its just a waiting game.

Anyone care for some Elevator music while we wait.... I'm on floor 1 and need to get to floor 43. -_- Thanks steam.

taz1stP
01-21-2011, 11:04 AM
I once again, hate steam to their fullest. Not one email yet :banghead:

I've promised Zero I wouldn't enter the server till I got my account password reset and I show that Deathrow or daemonpowered account isn't VAC banned. Then I will be clear of that... So, its just a waiting game.

Anyone care for some Elevator music while we wait.... I'm on floor 1 and need to get to floor 43. -_- Thanks steam.

i will push all the buttons but 43

DJ_MikeyRevile
01-21-2011, 11:30 AM
I once again, hate steam to their fullest. Not one email yet :banghead:

I've promised Zero I wouldn't enter the server till I got my account password reset and I show that Deathrow or daemonpowered account isn't VAC banned. Then I will be clear of that... So, its just a waiting game.

Anyone care for some Elevator music while we wait.... I'm on floor 1 and need to get to floor 43. -_- Thanks steam.

if your account says you are vac banned and your name and steam id show up on the vac ban list... you were vac banned. now if you really are what you claim "a soldier" you would show a hell of alot more integrity then what you are currently showing our community.

this waiting game you are talking about is probualy you begging steam to unban your account just to prove a point. Regardless of what you try and say YOU ARE vac banned, end of story. if you have a ahrd time beliving the screenshot then you can simply go to http://www.vacbanned.com/listing/banned and search your steam id.

just to sugar coat your "im not vac banned" cause ill share this

Christmas
01-21-2011, 11:34 AM
Too bad your VAC banned: http://steamcommunity.com/id/DaemonPowered/

Maybe I should ban you from the forums too?

Should have been closed after this.

Fucking right, Zero.

DJ_MikeyRevile
01-21-2011, 11:37 AM
Should have been closed after this.

Fucking right, Zero.

he is actually trying to say he isnt vac banned =3 it gives me tingles.

OMGBEARS
01-21-2011, 11:42 AM
Well.. it's more than that, DJ. You have to put the SteamID into the search box. Needless to say you are, indeed, VAC banned.

It comes up as follows:

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb212/Zankin_Devir/Thething.png

GG.

DJ_MikeyRevile
01-21-2011, 12:04 PM
Well.. it's more than that, DJ. You have to put the SteamID into the search box. Needless to say you are, indeed, VAC banned.

It comes up as follows:

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb212/Zankin_Devir/Thething.png

GG.

o yea the hardest part.. search box

lolol

Deathrow
01-21-2011, 01:24 PM
Thats for Call of Duty Black Ops! Everyone is getting banned from that shit because everyone is reporting people and steam is banning everyone!

Watch... I'll join with the steamid, once I get it started up again. You are so shallow minded Mikey, again. Know DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE picture/senario! Your just made of random assumptions.
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I played the game for about a month, and all of a sudden Black Ops got banned (everything else works). People are so fickle with other people, who do better then them. So fickle, that they report people who don't deserve it. I contacted steam about it, and they told me it was a done deal. So I can't play Black Ops multiplayer anymore. Never really wanted to anyways, that game is really full of hackers and hell. If I get a back hand because they are trying to ban everyone they come intact with. Then the game isn't for me, and thats obvious.

You can ask anyone who plays that game (black ops), that game is full of shit (PC=Hacker Problem). I played it on my cousin's playstation 3 and there seems to be some hackers but not as many or not quite as possible. Console systems are harder to get hacks. Not only that, a lot of people would rather not have their whole system blocked from the company.

Please do your research again Mikey and wait till I log onto my account. Yes, Black Ops was banned but it was for upserd reasons. One even I can't answer.

Btw...check the bottom of my page, I put a response on recommendations towards black ops.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/tillersteve/proof.jpg

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One more thing...I have two more accounts without black ops on them, and they were never banned. Try the account I'm playing with now, and if need be. I will give you the other one and you can do research on that. Both of those aren't VACbanned in anyway and they don't have Black Ops on it.

OMGBEARS
01-21-2011, 02:34 PM
This is taken directly from steams website. (article in reference: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7849-Radz-6869)


What is VAC?

If a user connects to a VAC-Secured server from a computer with identifiable cheats installed, the VAC system will ban the user from playing on VAC-Secured servers in the future.

While server admins may choose to ban specific players, server admins cannot VAC ban players. The VAC system is automated - contacting Steam Support to report cheaters is not necessary, nor will Steam Support act on any information provided.

The VAC system reliably detects cheats using their cheat signatures. Any third-party modification to a game designed to give one player an advantage over another is classified as a cheat or hack and will trigger a VAC ban. This includes modifications to a game's core executable files and dynamic link libraries.

The following will not trigger a VAC ban:

-Using chat programs like X-Fire
-System hardware configurations
-Updated system drivers, such as video card drivers

Use only trusted machines to play on VAC-Secured servers - if you are not sure whether or not the machine you are using to connect to Steam may have cheats installed, do not play on VAC-Secured servers.

Use caution when installing any game modifications, such as scripts or custom skins. Only download custom content from trusted sources. Hackers sometimes maliciously disguise their cheats to cause others to get banned.

What this means for everyone is that it scans your computer for cheats, illegal third-party programs, or modifications to a game (mods to a game's core, for instance), and bans players who use them permanently.

What this means for you is that you had illegal third-party programs, cheats, or something that provides an unfair advantage over another. VAC bans are across all VAC enabled games, and VAC will ban you permanently, without compromise, and without the ability to appeal for said ban being lifted. Only MWF2 pertains only to MWF2- not Black Ops. Your VAC ban on Black Ops transfers to every game on that account.

What that means for us is "Forgot Password" means "Yeah, that account is VAC banned and I'm trying to use lengthy posts and crappy excuses to avoid that ban transferring to other accounts."

We've banned people before on IBIS for cheating, or utilizing hacks on past accounts. I don't see you as an exception to this precedent.

EDIT-

Additionally this means that no matter how many people "report" you, unless the VAC system catches you red handed, you won't be banned. It's truly as simple as that.

Deathrow
01-21-2011, 03:37 PM
Use caution when installing any game modifications, such as scripts or custom skins. Only download custom content from trusted sources. Hackers sometimes maliciously disguise their cheats to cause others to get banned.

I guess you forgot this as well.. I altered my configuration, and even a site said, that doing so might get you banned. I lowered my graphics lower then what the game allowed and I got banned for it. So your assumptions, are again not justifiable.

I did alter the console settings, by tweaking graphics lower then what was registured/allowed by steam (I assume). Nothing less, nothing more. My computer is good enough to run CSS, with console tweaks, but even Black Ops gave me a problem. I will except that and again. If a game is willing to ban me for reasons that have no real grounds, and I'm playing legit. SO be it, the game wasn't worth playing anyways.

Btw... Black Ops vacban, is a Black Ops only ban. Why or how should I know?? Because, ITS BANNED. -_-
All the other games are playable and steam hasn't bothered me anymore, with the whole ordeal.

OMGBEARS
01-21-2011, 03:41 PM
This still does not escape the point that you lied in regards to being VAC banned in the first place.

Christmas
01-21-2011, 03:44 PM
I guess you forgot this as well.. I altered my configuration, and even a site said, that doing so might get you banned. I lowered my graphics lower then what the game allowed and I got banned for it. So your assumptions, are again not justifiable.

I did alter the console settings, by tweaking graphics lower then what was registured/allowed by steam (I assume). Nothing less, nothing more. My computer is good enough to run CSS, well with console tweaks, but even Black Ops gave me a problem. I will except that and again. If a game is willing to ban me for reasons that have no real grounds, and I'm playing legit. Other hackers are running around and I'm reported because of what ever the reason is. SO be it, the game wasn't worth playing anyways.

Btw... Black Ops vacban, is a Black Ops only ban. Why or how should I know?? Because, ITS BANNED. -_-
All the other games are playable and steam hasn't bothered my anymore, with the whole ordeal.

Stop backtracking to try and cover your own ass.

You have been VAC banned. Own up to it and shut up.

Deathrow
01-21-2011, 03:50 PM
Stop backtracking to try and cover your own ass.

You have been VAC banned. Own up to it and shut up.

I have, and I'm coming with FACTS. I owned up to my actions with Black Ops and I don't feel terriable for what I done. I made my conditions playable on my computer and allowed me to have a equal playing field. Steam/VAC could have considered other wise and banned me for it. I'm not crying over spilled milk and I'm not mad at the situation.

btw...nice sig christmas

SCRIBBLE
01-21-2011, 03:58 PM
He said it was for a reason not even he could provide. Now we know the reason and it was not only provided by the vac ban list but the victim himself.

Deathrow, you have dug the hole... we'll take our shovel back.

acolyte_to_jippity
01-21-2011, 04:07 PM
scribble[nuke];98638']He said it was for a reason not even he could provide. Now we know the reason and it was not only provided by the vac ban list but the victim himself.

Deathrow, you have dug the hole... we'll take our shovel back.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. too much minecraft. i immediately thought that he could keep it unless it was a diamond one

taz1stP
01-21-2011, 04:18 PM
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. too much minecraft. i immediately thought that he could keep it unless it was a diamond one

minecraft is good for you

alex_mamaroneck
01-21-2011, 04:32 PM
Too bad your VAC banned: http://steamcommunity.com/id/DaemonPowered/

Maybe I should ban you from the forums too?

hey Zero, what trouble might have caused him to get VAC banned? does he still deserve to play on your servers if Mike didn't ban him?

Deathrow, u have to realize that none of us believe you. u are caught. its ok. i got the results right here:
"we aske if you contacted VAC about your ban. you said yes and the lie detector says: thats a lie instead you felt like writing a book on this thread thinking we would believe you"

Deathrow
01-21-2011, 04:34 PM
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. too much minecraft. i immediately thought that he could keep it unless it was a diamond one

I never said that I was perfect... Black Ops doesn't have a configuration that shows what you can, and cannot tweak. For counter stike source, cevo gives you an allowable autoexec config tweak. With CS, there is no questions on what you can and cannot tweak. For Black Ops, its still up in the air.

Btw, I didn't download anything to give me an advantage. I just tweaked my graphics configurations... I assume, that was the reason for the ban? Still not sure.

Deathrow
01-21-2011, 05:01 PM
I'm on a VAC Server with my account. The supposed banned one. I'm tell you guys the truth and yet there is multipul assumptions.

Please join daemonpowered as your friends and message me. I will follow you to any server.

dice
01-21-2011, 05:53 PM
I never said that I was perfect... Black Ops doesn't have a configuration that shows what you can, and cannot tweak. For counter stike source, cevo gives you an allowable autoexec config tweak. With CS, there is no questions on what you can and cannot tweak. For Black Ops, its still up in the air.

Btw, I didn't download anything to give me an advantage. I just tweaked my graphics configurations... I assume, that was the reason for the ban? Still not sure.

I can vouch for this. I used a console unlocker in MW2 on my last steam account and got VAC'd for it. All i wanted was to improve my reg with commands from cod1/cod4 but apparently they don't like that. The ban only applied to MW2, I could play all other games. Since he can play CS, he hasn't cheated in CS (or at least he hasn't been caught in CS). I gave the account to a friend because he likes the MW2 campaign. Search steam community for Deadlyart.

So he may or may not be telling the truth on that and honestly I couldn't care less - he insulted mikey so fuck him.

P.S. its RAP SHEET. RAP. NOT WRAP.

Deathrow
01-21-2011, 06:34 PM
No unsult, I think hes just highly immature and makes too many assumptions because he doesn't win all the time. Then uses others as escape goats and trys to break down people he dislikes. Then he opens his mouth, before his brain can registure.

I have no issue with...I would say. All the admins, except him. He is making things VERY personal because he assumes I hack, I have mental issues, I talk about non-subject related conversations, etc... I see it and am getting tired of it... Not sure if he does it to anyone else, but he does constantly say rude stuff to others. Then laughs at it and everyone just trys to either join along or duck/cover and ignore him.

This might be your house mikey, but you've been very disrepectful towards a lot of your guests and me. You've made too many assumptions and I'm getting tired of it. I peronally think it should be fixed. Either a speaking to or something else, but that isn't my call.

Sorry for all the disturbances, he made accusations and all my information...again! States facts and not opinions/assumptions.

Btw... I just got my ass handed to me on another server. I couldn't do anything without being flashed or shot in the head -_- It was like 14-15 of me running around... and knowing how to use flashes effectively. I had a 8/12 score, it made me feel like a noob again. I couldn't even get a equal k/d ratio.
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I looked at the site and found this! Looks like this is a commen thing, I would look some more but I need sleep.
http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5299&page=5

Good night everyone

&&toasties
01-21-2011, 07:10 PM
So wait, is this thread about Deathrows VAC ban or Mikeys abuse?

I don't get it.

DJ_MikeyRevile
01-21-2011, 08:15 PM
So wait, is this thread about Deathrows VAC ban or Mikeys abuse?

I don't get it.

well toaster strudel

it started with my apparent abuse as an admin to a "stfu mickey you were vac banned" discussion right around the point where zero stated he was vac banned.

but it originally being a post about my abuse as an admin id assume it would be "proper" for me to defend myself regardless if the convo has changed.


In my defense to his claim of me abusing my admin powers.
i have not abused admin privileges. i have never even used admin commands when mickey was on the server except ONE time. This time being when he, after several previous warnings, warded the hostie site as a CT. I banned him for 5 min and he was aware of his wrong doing. (i will not vouch for possible vote's i may have done while in the server) i do not know about these.

Also in my own defense, i never meant to disrespect mickey at all, i may come off as a blunt opinionated person at times (thus him thinking i am out to get him?). i have on multiple occasions asked the server publicly wth mickeys was talking about because he will start talking about random things midst others conversations, with what he has to say being irrelevant to the current conversation at hand.

with this said i never ONCE targeted mickey as a less honorable player then others. To be honest... this thread probably wouldn't exist if it wasnt for him posting in a current ban thread for konvert saying things like "im going to personally make sure this guy is steam banned" and "my ingame name at the time was Konn" which is funny because shortly after if i am not mistaken was when he was vac banned.

Mickey.. deathrow Deamon? whatever you are to be called... you were vac banned... it does not matter what you say after this point

to put it for you easy.. think of us admins as police officers, clan members as chief deputys, ZERO as the Cheif and VACBANS as the federal Gov justice office.

you were vac banned... you appealed to your vac ban, you will get vac banned again if i see you in our community's servers again. after that you will never be getting an appeal.

to top it off, you lied to us saying you were not vac banned to try and sugar coat your situation. you being a so called "soldier" which i also think is BS ... looked you up. makes you a HORRIBLE SOLDIER.. whom has 0 integrity as a civlian/soldier. To me that makes it even easier to make sure you never see the light of steam days again.

apart from the amount of proof we have and your behavior here on the forums with the lack of proof regarding my "admin abuse" i would safely state i did not abuse my admin which would in-turn infringe on your right as a player in our servers and that you are a player no one in the STEAM community should trust.

Deathrow
01-21-2011, 08:36 PM
VAC only banned Black Ops... Shall I state this again???

I am military and deadly honest. I will tell on myself, just as fast as telling on someone else. I work on F-22s in the United States Air Force Virginia Air National Guard, at a location I cannot say (Obviously). I'm a maintainer and Aircraft Munitions installer. In my civilian job, I work in a prison system. Where they maintain Catagory 5 offenders. I work 12 hour shifts and hate it but stay, because it maintains my familys needs. I have a wife and 2 kids, which are the twinkling of my life and my happiness.

As in for this game... I do this because, I want to get away from life at times. I come home after a long days work and just look to defuse my attitude. My wife hates me for it on multipul occasion and always asks me, "look at our kids, these are our kids and you'd rather play a video game then spend time with us." I don't mean to be a bad father (if so), but I've always played video games and this is my life.

I've played various types of games, from Asheron's call, to Mighty and Magic V. I like FPS, because they bring competitions. I like World of Warcraft, because it brings adventure and communication (positive communication, unlike FPSs). I play Starcraft II right now, because of the ability to build forces and charge them into a battle zone.

All these things have nothing to do with this ban, but this is WHO I AM. A gamer since birth and so what if I'm good?! My ability to build my computer up, is the past and I have to except that. Unfortunately steam or others don't care to hear this plea of assistance. The only thing they care about is sells. For people with familys, we are expected to suffer and play the Finical limbo game. Then with the economy and its threats, it makes my family's life even harder.

The only thing I tried to do, was tweak my config settings with black ops and got banned. Thats my assumption and thats all I can give you. I spoke with steam and no... I didn't ask them to unban my FULL VAC, I asked them to unban my Black Ops VAC. They refused to and didn't care about my situation.

Through-out this whole ordeal and I'm not talking about IBIS... I WISH I WOULD HAVE WENT TO SCHOOL. Your doing that Mikey and I hope you achive what ever your going for. Don't stop and push to excel, but don't forget about people who work for society. I'm a blue colar worker, because I decided to be that. I SHOULD have went to school and didn't. Its my fault and not only do I suffer, but my family does.
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Final note: I play this game for fun, and the Warcraft server is fun for me. I am banned for reasons that don't hold grounds but if you want to ban me for admin disrespect. Please do so, but over all... You have no proof that I'm a hacker and the assumptions come from all around. Wish I could drive you to my house, so you can see me play, but I'm not going to allow a random stranger to enter my family's house. Will I go somewhere and meet you?? Yes, I have no problem doing that, but do know I stay strapped for obvious reasons. Working in a prison isn't the safest thing to do. On top of that, the community doesn't like you and there are gangs looking to murder people like me (higher wants to kill me, because I'm a Corrections Officer).

The gun wouldn't be to intimidate you or threaten you...its for my protection and my family's.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/tillersteve/Callofdutyban.jpg

Deathrow
01-21-2011, 09:19 PM
Zero, do something for me... Ban my 3 accounts. I've showen you respect and the other admins. But what it comes down to, is I'm unhappy with my life and I don't need this stress. No I'm not a hacker, no I'm not a bad person, and yes... I believe that I do have some issues but it isn't mental. I just need to get a grip of reality and my present life. I need to get out of the job I have and I need to support my family. These are things I need and right now. A game isn't one of those things I need.

All my gameplay is legit and I'm extremely happy with it! But my eye sight is getting worse and the only thing I do is set and get fatter. This isn't a good pratice and my metabolism isn't getting any better. Soon I will need to get a better perscription for my eye sight/glasses and I need to get in shape because I reinlisted with the Air Force.

Sorry Zero, your a good person and you took your time to listen and respect me. You don't know how that feels, to have someone respect you... For you. I'm sorry that I've burdened everyone and I set here and cry while I type this. Mikey, you will never know how a family man is, till you get your own. You just don't know... you never will.

Keep in good faith everyone and have fun. I might play CSS some here and there, but I don't need this stress from a forum or game. All my effort to become a better player has gotten me no where. The only thing I ever wanted, was to become a person who gets payed to play. Funny eh? Shits never ganna happen and never will.

Bye and again, keep your head up Mikey... no matter what life brings you. Keep your eyes on the goal and stive to improve. This is the voice of a father, who stares at his kids and smiles. Hoping for the same thing in their future... To be better then just average and excel. Reach for the sky! and don't let any sob bring you down.

bye

acolyte_to_jippity
01-21-2011, 09:29 PM
...zero suggested banning you based on the vac ban immediately. no questions asked. and you coul always...you know...just not play.

Vladninja
01-21-2011, 10:18 PM
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One more thing...I have two more accounts without black ops on them, and they were never banned. Try the account I'm playing with now, and if need be. I will give you the other one and you can do research on that. Both of those aren't VACbanned in anyway and they don't have Black Ops on it.

First most people with that many accounts do so because they Hack.

Secondly let me guess one of your other accounts is
STEAM_0:1:24557654 -"Mickey's"

BladeTwinSwords
01-21-2011, 10:19 PM
First most people with that many accounts do so because they Hack.

Secondly let me guess one of your other accounts is
STEAM_0:1:24557654 -"Mickey's"

Yup

Fuck5

SHADY V1RU5
01-22-2011, 07:01 AM
http://oi56.tinypic.com/o5rwg4.jpg

i seriosly lmfao ........+1

&&toasties
01-22-2011, 11:20 AM
My god, this Deathrow guy types waaaaay to fucking much.

Ban him.

Close fail thread.

Have a nice day!

Dual
01-22-2011, 12:25 PM
This guy should be banned from our servers and this forums... I Dont find anything he is saying to be the truth... Vac Banned means your a Cheater plain and simple...

CYBER
01-23-2011, 01:20 AM
This guy should be banned from our servers and this forums... I Dont find anything he is saying to be the truth... Vac Banned means your a Cheater plain and simple...

agreed.
i have never heard of deathrow... but from the posts he sounds sketchy from the first comment he said... talking about how he is not haking and he can vouch the OTHER guy was hacking...

Toffee
01-23-2011, 07:07 PM
I just want to kind of play devil's advocate here, as some information that has been presented had been false, and VAC does not have the cleanest record. I'm not here to offend, defend, or anger anyone. I just want there to be a clear understanding about VAC.

Firstly, OMGBEARS.


Your VAC ban on Black Ops transfers to every game on that account.



This is incorrect. VAC bans by game engine, which is why people who are banned in 1.6 can still play in VAC secured Source servers, and vice-versa. Bans in MW2 only affect MW2. This information is taken directly from the page you linked, just a little further down the page, under the header VAC Enabled Games.

Secondly, VAC is not infallible. It is certainly an effective tool and works almost all of the time, but let's not forget about the whole MW2 debacle where 12000 people had their VAC bans overturned.

Story here, from Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5597038/valve-bans-modern-warfare-players-by-mistake-apologizes-with-free-left-4-dead-2)

For those who don't want to read that, there was a conflict between an updated .dll and the disc-based .dll, which caused the mass banning.

This is also how people get banned in MW2 and blackops when trying to alter their configurations, such as widescreen, console, etc. They require the alteration of .dll files.



There are also 3 other incidents of false-positives, all of which had their VAC bans reversed.

On release, VAC was banning for faulty memory.

VAC was banning for running VAC-secured games through CEDEGA, which some of you may know as WineX, on Linux platforms.

A server side glitch in 2004.


There are also reports of incorrect detections, of which only 1 incident had bans reversed. These programs would be classified as benign cheats, as they have no real effect on multiplayer.

HLamp, which allowed you to manipulate your Winamp client through the game. This was reveresed.

Running x-spectate. This was changed from a ban to a kick, but no bans from this have been reversed.

Half-Life single player mods Paranoia and Half-Life FX. These still trigger a ban.

sXe Injected, which was supposed to be an anti-cheat engine for CS. No longer triggers a ban, no bans reversed.


So, while a VAC ban should certainly throw up warning flags, I hope you realize that it's not a flawless system and that you take pause before angrily throwing accusations left and right.

I'm not defending Deathrowe, and I hope none of you take offense. This is merely an attempt to shed some light on the subject.

X 1 Viper1
01-23-2011, 08:24 PM
This is long and usless, if you rae reading this and want something interesting to read go elsewhere and don't waste time like i did.... FUCK :banghead:

Deathrow
01-23-2011, 08:27 PM
Well, I say ban me... I'm not hacking and don't care, but I ask you to put this into prospective. When HL2 engine came out and they started allowing people to tweak CSS config/autoexec.cfgs. What started to happen?

People were tweaking the sky, they were tweaking the players to have very low textures, they were tweaking the weapons not to appear and what happeend? VAC started to bad them because they said it gave players a unfair advantage.

Now with black ops... Imagine that all over again? You tweak fog to not appear, you tweak the ping to act differently, to tweak it to have a better hit box system. Each and every tweak you do, is a change not only to the config file, but it also changes conditions. Is this cheating or not? Some see it so, and some don't. Depends on who look at it... In the eye of the beholder.

So really... consider all things, all conditions, all past experinces with VAC, and even present/future possible issues. No matter how much I state, "I don't hack", to some that are being shallow minded. Only see VAC as a "Only Hacker Catcher", but there is tremindous faults with VAC and the system will never be 100% efficient. The good thing is, and I will state this. Banning someone for no reason or banning someone for a good reason. It still does a very good job on banning the hackers and getting rid of the graphics minipulation.

Unfortunately, I could have been one of those graphics bannable individuals. I know that in the past, they have done it and expecially with CSS. They allowed people to tweak they config.cfg/autoexec.cfg, but then they pulled back and started banning for unfair gameplay.

Steam/VAC is nothing but a regulated system, that still a will always have faults. How can I have 3 accounts and still not be banned with any CS/HL/or TF2 game? Consider that.

Btw, I have multi accounts because first one I had, it could have possibly been taken because they started banning acounts for being ran at Cyber Pubs. Second account was to protect me, incase that happened. Third is because I was a admin for GzN, but I eventually started to make my own server. I used the off account to catch hackers in the act, so they couldn't tell who it was.

I can show you my gmail, which I'm going to take a picture and post below.

Btw..again, Pls don't be so damn shallow minded.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/tillersteve/proof4.jpg
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/tillersteve/proof3.jpg
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/tillersteve/proof2.jpg
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/tillersteve/proof5.jpg

Btw...Someone said something about my military earlier. How bout this? Close your mouth, open up your eyes, and understand... Your assumptions are what they are... Thought or feeling, that have NO barring, and could or could not be fact or fiction. **Note** Msgt Harper name has been altered, because I cannot show first names! You cannot do this and if caught. Its can have major consequences. Technically, I shouldn't have my first name on their either. It isn't your business to know who I am but this shows facts.

Their YOUR EMOTIONS or THOUGHTS... Thats why you NEED to know the facts, instead of assuming!

Whats that other saying? "Assuming does what? Makes a ass out of you, not me." Or in some cases, "Assuming makes a ass out of you and me."

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/tillersteve/IMMILITARY.jpg

Deathrow
01-23-2011, 08:45 PM
Btw...I'm going to bed, I'm tired as shit, Worked a 12 hour shift and done a shit load of walking. My knees are killing me and my eyes are heavy as shit. If you write something, I'll check it tomorrow but I can't promise anything. Might sleep till I HAVE to get up... Trust me, its one of those days. One offender gave me hell today, and I was ready to break his arm off for bucking at the tray slot.

Stupid f-n g'd offenders... They have no life and the only thing they want to do, is minipuate the system and get something for free. :banghead:

DJ_MikeyRevile
01-23-2011, 09:07 PM
Well, I say ban me... I'm not hacking and don't care, but I ask you to put this into prospective. When HL2 engine came out and they started allowing people to tweak CSS config/autoexec.cfgs. What started to happen?

People were tweaking the sky, they were tweaking the players to have very low textures, they were tweaking the weapons not to appear and what happeend? VAC started to bad them because they said it gave players a unfair advantage.

Now with black ops... Imagine that all over again? You tweak fog to not appear, you tweak the ping to act differently, to tweak it to have a better hit box system. Each and every tweak you do, is a change not only to the config file, but it also changes conditions. Is this cheating or not? Some see it so, and some don't. Depends on who look at it... In the eye of the beholder.

So really... consider all things, all conditions, all past experinces with VAC, and even present/future possible issues. No matter how much I state, "I don't hack", to some that are being shallow minded. Only see VAC as a "Only Hacker Catcher", but there is tremindous faults with VAC and the system will never be 100% efficient. The good thing is, and I will state this. Banning someone for no reason or banning someone for a good reason. It still does a very good job on banning the hackers and getting rid of the graphics minipulation.

Unfortunately, I could have been one of those graphics bannable individuals. I know that in the past, they have done it and expecially with CSS. They allowed people to tweak they config.cfg/autoexec.cfg, but then they pulled back and started banning for unfair gameplay.

Steam/VAC is nothing but a regulated system, that still a will always have faults. How can I have 3 accounts and still not be banned with any CS/HL/or TF2 game? Consider that.

Btw, I have multi accounts because first one I had, it could have possibly been taken because they started banning acounts for being ran at Cyber Pubs. Second account was to protect me, incase that happened. Third is because I was a admin for GzN, but I eventually started to make my own server. I used the off account to catch hackers in the act, so they couldn't tell who it was.

I can show you my gmail, which I'm going to take a picture and post below.

Btw..again, Pls don't be so damn shallow minded.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/tillersteve/proof4.jpg
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/tillersteve/proof3.jpg
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/tillersteve/proof2.jpg
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/tillersteve/proof5.jpg

Btw...Someone said something about my military earlier. How bout this? Close your mouth, open up your eyes, and understand... Your assumptions are what they are... Thought or feeling, that have NO barring, and could or could not be fact or fiction. **Note** Msgt Harper name has been altered, because I cannot show first names! You cannot do this and if caught. Its can have major consequences. Technically, I shouldn't have my first name on their either. It isn't your business to know who I am but this shows facts.

Their YOUR EMOTIONS or THOUGHTS... Thats why you NEED to know the facts, instead of assuming!

Whats that other saying? "Assuming does what? Makes a ass out of you, not me." Or in some cases, "Assuming makes a ass out of you and me."

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/tillersteve/IMMILITARY.jpg

pop a zanex

OMGBEARS
01-23-2011, 09:15 PM
I'm.. not certain why this thread is still active.

By in large we do not allow people who have been VAC banned on our servers, especially when they display questionable behavior in game.

We have banned and forcibly removed regulars in our community for such things, and I suspect Deathrow will be no different. While he is more literate, I don't believe that offers anyone a free pass on this.

Vladninja
01-23-2011, 09:16 PM
Btw...I'm going to bed, I'm tired as shit, Worked a 12 hour shift and done a shit load of walking. My knees are killing me and my eyes are heavy as shit. If you write something, I'll check it tomorrow but I can't promise anything. Might sleep till I HAVE to get up... Trust me, its one of those days. One offender gave me hell today, and I was ready to break his arm off for bucking at the tray slot.

Stupid f-n g'd offenders... They have no life and the only thing they want to do, is minipuate the system and get something for free. :banghead:

on this we agree... I was just thinking the same thing about you.



Well, I say ban me... I'm not hacking and don't care, but I ask you to put this into prospective. When HL2 engine came out and they started allowing people to tweak CSS config/autoexec.cfgs. What started to happen?


Seems like this matter is settled then.



I'm.. not certain why this thread is still active.

By in large we do not allow people who have been VAC banned on our servers, especially when they display questionable behavior in game.

We have banned and forcibly removed regulars in our community for such things, and I suspect Deathrow will be no different. While he is more literate, I don't believe that offers anyone a free pass on this.

Thank you closing thread.