Japan Hit By Tsunami

[maynard]

japan just got smoked by a really bad tsunami.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12709850

[crackhouse sally]

http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/6810.htm
that's nhk, where they are getting their feed from

[maynard]

your stream blows. it's small and the vid quality is shit. I suggest using mine.

[crackhouse sally]

In your stream they are talking to people in Hawaii.
In mine they are reporting Japanese news, the whole time.

[maynard]

ya cause Hawaii might get hit as may several other countries... all the footage is Japan, but they're talking with people all over the world because this is a matter not only relating 2 Japan. now stop being a dumbass.

[crackhouse sally]

Yea you're right, they are already fucked, who cares.

[dice]

Holy dogshit that's a lot of water!

Get ready for our taxes to go up so our liberal government can send them more cash than we have >.>

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Holy dogshit that's a lot of water!

Get ready for our taxes to go up so our liberal government can send them more cash than we have >.>

ugh. too true.

i don't mean to sound insensitive or anything. it's a tragedy, and charities have every right to collect money to help. but that money should be given by choice.

katrina is another perfect example. god know how much tax money was wasted on New Orleans, when tons of other places were hit just as bad if not worse. But, the city that bitches the loudest gets the most money. Now, years (YEARS) after the fact, it's still not done and they continue to clammor for more money, when all the other people effected either moved on, or actually did something productive and worked on fixing things themselves.


...sorry. it's seriously late, and i get sidetracked by political bullshit easily when i'm like this

[dice]

Dude this time I'm not sure it would bother me. This footage is insane. I've never seen so much fucking water o.o

[Nemesis]

can asian's swim?

[Me Haha]

I just was watching a news report about this on youtube...
I hope Okinawa is doing okay D: I used to live there when i was 4-5 years old... That sucks though, not only will taxes go up, but the ammount of anime produced will drastically decrease D:
Gah! This sucks... Japan is awesome >.< :headache:

[taz1stP]

California better watch out they might get hit also.
i wonder how is this going to affect there amine airing's are they just going to air there shows anyways?

[toma]

yes we asians can swim http://www.goddesscarlie.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/waterboys-poster.jpg

[taz1stP]

they cant swim they just float. you should know shit floats.

[Andrew_Pavlik]

they cant swim they just float. you should know shit floats.

I enjoy jokes about Asians as much as the next person but you sir, are an idiot. I hope next you have your boyfriend choke you from behind he doesn't let up and you forget the safety word.

As for the tsunami... thats crazy, I hope and pray for a speedy recovery for them!

[taz1stP]

srry not homo, but i dont judge other people.

[toma]

I enjoy jokes about Asians as much as the next person but you sir, are an idiot. I hope next you have your boyfriend choke you from behind he doesn't let up and you forget the safety word.

As for the tsunami... thats crazy, I hope and pray for a speedy recovery for them!

it's ok i'm sure he speaks from his own personal experience of floating, found out all my friends there are safe...sad that a lot of people didn't make it.

[taz1stP]

theres not as many people missing as i tought there would be.

[uuntiltheendd]

saw the footage when i woke up this morning... absolutely terrible. 80,000 missing and rising. im hoping for the best for everyone in japan and also for those in the states who may be affected soon. i have a buddy in the army who is supposed to be shipped out monday to hawaii...:icon_frown:

[ZERO]

Wow, I had heard that it hit central Japan so I figured that they would be ok. However know that I know that the earthquake was off the north east coast this is really bad. I have not seen any footage yet but the devastation must be terrible, from what I read this was the 5th most powerful earthquake ever recorded.

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Here is the local broadcast: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-gtv

[toma]

CNN has some videos out there looks really bad almost an entire town got wiped out

[ZERO]

Note that the last time an earthquake this powerful struck japan it was around the 1700s which caused Mt Fujito erupt.

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So there is also a large possibility of additional destruction from what is set off by the chain reaction. Lastly in a few hours the cost of south America is going to be hit and unlike Japan those nations do not have the infrastructure to handle it.

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A 6.6 just went off in the center of Japan on a separate fault line (on land)

[Me Haha]

Damn... I just watched some eyewitness footage now that i'm back from school... that's just... damn...

[ZERO]

Also there was a Volcano in eastern Indonesia that erupted about 7 hours ago after the earthquake

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously though.. in the last year and a half there has been more substantial earthquakes then ever before in a this time span.

it makes you wonder hmmmm the core is heating!

[ZERO]

Well logically a major plate shift in one area will create more shifts in others. Things like this are supposed to occur every few thousand years as pressure builds up luckily it finally released before more pressure built. Imagine if this kept building for another 100 years there is no telling how many times worse this could have been.

[mcilwain]

That is exactly right! one plate can cause more under the pressure.
2012 is just crap and if it does happen i am running into the safe.

[Steamer]

Nuclear emergencies now... =\

[uuntiltheendd]

so i just saw a comment on facebook from a guy that said "remember pearl harbor japan? karmas a bitch." what do you all think of that?

[ZERO]

Nuclear emergencies now... =\

Oh yea, if we are going to call that an emergency than we should get out the tinfoil hats and throw away out microwave ovens.

The only reason they are acting the way they are is b/c they do not want the public that does not understand how these things work to flip out for them saying it is noting when it is. So they are going to play along to prevent people from being manipulated. Let me show you how below:

In reality there is no real issue. While the backup systems did not work as intended the backup plans for those have. They are responding exactly how they should and these actions are pre planned. They need to release pressure in order to prevent the cooling pipes from blowing. While the release is radioactive it is not any more radioactive than the walls that the physics building here in Kentucky are made from. In fact you can even test this in your own room by having a system store static within a vacuum. The energy will dissipate becuase it is being effected by the radiation from the walls or from the near by ground. This is because the earth is radioactive. They are not comparing the values to naturally occurring radiation just to no radiation which is funny becuase you can never really be in a place void of radiation. While there is radiation that will be released the amounts are not anything that is a problem. So they could just say there will be no radiation leak and calm fears b/c the publics understanding of radiation is different from its actual definition. However telling that lie would have a cost.

If they said there will be no radiation in order to avoid confusion they will in fact be lying b/c there really will be radiation however not any that will do anything. Some people will take this information to manipulate people by saying the gov is lying which they would be. Then then would add new lies to this by stating that the radiation is going to kill everyone or do xyz. They will then link it to a bunch of random stats that will be generated regardless. (Did you know there is a 99.9repeating% correlation with the income of the average American for any given month and the global CO2 average for that same month, this is statistical fact generated from the US gov) They will then use these things to trick people into thinking that this type of power is doing all sorts of stuff and that it needs to be stopped.

So instead they are going to tell the truth and actually drum up bad scenarios that will not occur. Why? Well when nothing happens they can then say look we saved the day reelect us. Logically that is not the main motive but it can not be denied that this is why the scenario is blow up a bit. So why the truth part? Well they can say after the fact that look radiation was let out and this radiation did nothing so that people can not try to make up conspiracies as easily. Basically someone realized that if you just start with the truth it may hurt now but in the long run it will work out better.

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so i just saw a comment on facebook from a guy that said "remember pearl harbor japan? karmas a bitch." what do you all think of that?

Maybe that was in response to an earlier post on facebook from the start of WWII that said "remember the black ships America, karmas a bitch".

This is why our failing school system is such a huge problem. Those who do not understand history are doomed to repeat it. (I replaced know with understand b/c I do not believe that by knowing history you can avoid repeating it) These are exactly the sort of comments that people make when they are ignorant to history. Yes we live in the present but our wold is built and made on the actions of those before us. We can not understand the present without understanding the past it is built upon no more than we can understand a wall without understanding the rocks it is made from. It is the past which sets the stage and context of the present.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Oh yea, if we are going to call that an emergency than we should get out the tinfoil hats and throw away out microwave ovens.

The only reason they are acting the way they are is b/c they do not want the public that does not understand how these things work to flip out for them saying it is noting when it is. So they are going to play along to prevent people from being manipulated. Let me show you how below:

In reality there is no real issue. While the backup systems did not work as intended the backup plans for those have. They are responding exactly how they should and these actions are pre planned. They need to release pressure in order to prevent the cooling pipes from blowing. While the release is radioactive it is not any more radioactive than the walls that the physics building here in Kentucky are made from. In fact you can even test this in your own room by having a system store static within a vacuum. The energy will dissipate becuase it is being effected by the radiation from the walls or from the near by ground. This is because the earth is radioactive. They are not comparing the values to naturally occurring radiation just to no radiation which is funny becuase you can never really be in a place void of radiation. While there is radiation that will be released the amounts are not anything that is a problem. So they could just say there will be no radiation leak and calm fears b/c the publics understanding of radiation is different from its actual definition. However telling that lie would have a cost.

If they said there will be no radiation in order to avoid confusion they will in fact be lying b/c there really will be radiation however not any that will do anything. Some people will take this information to manipulate people by saying the gov is lying which they would be. Then then would add new lies to this by stating that the radiation is going to kill everyone or do xyz. They will then link it to a bunch of random stats that will be generated regardless. (Did you know there is a 99.9repeating% correlation with the income of the average American for any given month and the global CO2 average for that same month, this is statistical fact generated from the US gov) They will then use these things to trick people into thinking that this type of power is doing all sorts of stuff and that it needs to be stopped.

So instead they are going to tell the truth and actually drum up bad scenarios that will not occur. Why? Well when nothing happens they can then say look we saved the day reelect us. Logically that is not the main motive but it can not be denied that this is why the scenario is blow up a bit. So why the truth part? Well they can say after the fact that look radiation was let out and this radiation did nothing so that people can not try to make up conspiracies as easily. Basically someone realized that if you just start with the truth it may hurt now but in the long run it will work out better.

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Maybe that was in response to an earlier post on facebook from the start of WWII that said "remember the black ships America, karmas a bitch".

This is why our failing school system is such a huge problem. Those who do not understand history are doomed to repeat it. (I replaced know with understand b/c I do not believe that by knowing history you can avoid repeating it) These are exactly the sort of comments that people make when they are ignorant to history. Yes we live in the present but our wold is built and made on the actions of those before us. We can not understand the present without understanding the past it is built upon no more than we can understand a wall without understanding the rocks it is made from. It is the past which sets the stage and context of the present.

History cant be taught to understand in highschool, assuming the person who facebooked this comment is still in highschool, thus giving him an unkown excuse for his words. If not.. he is a dumbass, enough said.

[maynard]

taught to understand in highschool

ya... and school text books will also teach you that pyramids were designed 2 house dead kings... regardless of the fact not 1 single mummy has EVER been found in a pyramid lol....

[Steamer]

ya... and school text books will also teach you that pyramids were designed 2 house dead kings... regardless of the fact not 1 single mummy has EVER been found in a pyramid lol....

Mummies were found in South American pyramids, also parts of mummies were found in Egyptian pyramids. Neferu-ptah was found in hers (Although not whole or intact.). It is true that no pharaoh has ever been found in a pyramid though.

there's never been a mummy found in a pyramid in recorded history... all kings were burried in tombs that were build in hill sides.

[maynard]

there's never been a mummy found in a pyramid in recorded history... all kings were burried in tombs that were build in hill sides.

hence the point of my claim... yet kids are still taught in school that pyramids were built for the purpose 2 be elaborate graves of the kings/pharo's... point being not everything said in school books is true.


also parts of mummies were found in Egyptian pyramids

id love 2 see some proof backing that. Never heard of random body parts showing up in any of the pyramids in giza.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

hence the point of my claim... yet kids are still taught in school that pyramids were built for the purpose 2 be elaborate graves of the kings/pharo's... point being not everything said in school books is true.



id love 2 see some proof backing that. Never heard of random body parts showing up in any of the pyramids in giza.

i think what he is trying to say is some poor slave got crushed between the stones when it was in construction.

fun fact about pyrmids is 40% of them are made up of shell and nummilite fossils!!! (egyptian ones that is)

[dice]

The pyramids are made out of unobtanium and were constructed by aliens with tractor beams to honor the book of ezekiel. Get it straight, morons.


In other news, huge explosion at a Japanese nuclear reactor. Nobody's shitting bricks though, its a light water reactor (whatever the fuck that means, its still NUCLEAR right?)

[Holy-Sonic]

so i just saw a comment on facebook from a guy that said "remember pearl harbor japan? karmas a bitch." what do you all think of that?

dumbfuck. Their karma was Hiroshima and Nagaski. Obviously, he is not updated with news.

[ZERO]

Light water just means that they use normal water to cool it like people with water cooling do. It also means that it can evaporate just as easily and then run out. By comparison my computer has a much better cooling system by not using water so I do not have any of those risks. In addition it will not vaporise at such a lot temp and would thus be better for their application. They will likely need to use salt water to replace it, it will not evaporate as fast and likely retains heat better. However over time this will corrode the pipes and destroy the pump.

If they really want to fix it they need to call in support from the US. Our carrier can fly in some better coolant for them to use. In fact it may be a good idea to use a coolant with a very low melting temp and then use liquid nitrogen to cool the coolant down way below normal to help cool the reactor faster.

Something I always wondered why not as a backup system just have something that totally seals the reactor in the event of a meltdown. Like you just dump thousands of gallons on liquid nitrogen on it until you permanently freeze it. Or some other system that allows you to sacrifice the reactor in order to cool it down.

[Steamer]

Mummies were found in South American pyramids, also parts of mummies were found in Egyptian pyramids. Neferu-ptah was found in hers (Although not whole or intact.). It is true that no pharaoh has ever been found in a pyramid though.

there's never been a mummy found in a pyramid in recorded history... all kings were burried in tombs that were build in hill sides.

I did not write that second line... Don't put words in my mouth please...


hence the point of my claim... yet kids are still taught in school that pyramids were built for the purpose 2 be elaborate graves of the kings/pharo's... point being not everything said in school books is true.



id love 2 see some proof backing that. Never heard of random body parts showing up in any of the pyramids in giza.

I did not say a mummy was found in a Giza pyramid... Not all are in Giza. You said no mummy was EVER found in a pyramid... This is untrue. As far as Giza... you are right ,no dead body has EVER been found in one. I suppose different cultures used them different ways, burial or not.

[taz1stP]

this topic is way off we need to get back on topic or make a new tread about pyramids.

[Steamer]

Yea yea.... Anyhow... I like Zero's idea of the of the liquid nitrogen containment unit. Sound like a huge but worthwhile undertaking. Hope they get this mess cleaned up well.

[StarsMine]

Arnt there other pyramids in egypt other then in giza that had things found in them

[Tickle Me Emo]

I did not write that second line... Don't put words in my mouth please...

Seriously, it even says on your post "edited by maynard", not to mention it's typed in a very maynard-like style (i.e. not a hint of proper capitalization). Power trip much?

I have a friend in the navy stationed in Japan (Nagasaki area), so I bet he's having a lot of fun right about now...

[ZERO]

Do not edit people posts to change what they are saying unless there is a valid reason backed by rules to do so, unless you want to lose mod powers.

[Me Haha]

Aside from off topic things, I really do wish Japan the best of luck, both with the earthquake, tsunami, nuclear reaction thing, and getting back on their feet. :(

[-=NYS=- C.O.]

I see another Godzilla born...

[maynard]

the hell you people talking about. I didn't edit any 1's post.

ok... no clue how I did that msg on his post? thought it was a post of my own. honest mistake.

as most of you know, I enjoy a good debate... I Wouldn't change peoples post 2 agree with me lol...

[acolyte_to_jippity]

http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/funny-facebook-fails-poor-choice-of-words.jpg

jus' sayin'

[Tickle Me Emo]

jus' sayin'

I lol'd pretty hard at that. Nice find.

edit: Oh and thank you for explaining what you did maynard, I was a bit worried there :P

[maynard]

edit: Oh and thank you for explaining what you did maynard, I was a bit worried there :P

yeah was a pretty good fail... not only did I fuck up my msg and accidentally edit it into someone elses... but I then saw the msg (that I wrote) and replied 2 it... the thing that happen when your piss drunk... lol:icon_mrgreen:

[Me Haha]

yeah was a pretty good fail... not only did I fuck up my msg and accidentally edit it into someone elses... but I then saw the msg (that I wrote) and replied 2 it... the thing that happen when your piss drunk... lol:icon_mrgreen:

Next time you drink invite me! It must be one hell of a time being that drunk. :lmao:

[Nemesis]

well if they're opening the doors to sea water the things are fucked anyways, it's just better to loose them and cool it then have the core start melting through shit.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Mt Fuji erupted, if it gets worse most of the water will turn into rock anyway =D

[Me Haha]

Mt Fuji erupted, if it gets worse most of the water will turn into rock anyway =D

Uhhh... It was not Mount Fuji. It was the Shinmoedake Volcano that erupted.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Uhhh... It was not Mount Fuji. It was the Shinmoedake Volcano that erupted.

i was unaware that there was more then one volcano in japan.
+ 1 ::wtg::

[Me Haha]

i was unaware that there was more then one volcano in japan.
+ 1 ::wtg::

Well, Japan kinda lives on to the Ring of Fire last time I checked. >.>
Gah! Why do I feel like I was being rude by correcting you?

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Well, Japan kinda lives on to the Ring of Fire last time I checked. >.>
Gah! Why do I feel like I was being rude by correcting you?

because it is not socially acceptable to make fun of mentally challenged kids

[Nemesis]

because it is not socially acceptable to make fun of mentally challenged kids

fuck really? I've been going about all this wrong....

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Well, Japan kinda lives on to the Ring of Fire last time I checked. >.>
Gah! Why do I feel like I was being rude by correcting you?

you were not being rude, i am aware japan lies on the ring of fire, so do several other places in the world.

What sets japan apart from others on the ring of fire is that it meets at a tripod of tectonic plates. The Pacific Plate, The Philippine sea plate, and Eurasian plate


because it is not socially acceptable to make fun of mentally challenged kids
yet i do this every day in Zm.

[dice]

I still don't understand what exactly is happening at the power plants. I have a cursory understanding on how they work, but here we have explosions and people aren't exactly freaking out... and these things have been pretty much off since what saturday? Wouldn't they have the control rods balls deep in those reactors within minutes of the quake? Why are they still hot?

[maynard]

i was unaware that there was more then one volcano in japan.

i am aware japan lies on the ring of fire
lol....


anyway yeah, on the news they were saying that it could end up being like the next chernobyl.... not cool.

[Steamer]

I still don't understand what exactly is happening at the power plants. I have a cursory understanding on how they work, but here we have explosions and people aren't exactly freaking out... and these things have been pretty much off since what saturday? Wouldn't they have the control rods balls deep in those reactors within minutes of the quake? Why are they still hot?

The control rods stop the fission reaction. You still have the radioactive decay to cool no matter what. Once fission is stopped this reactor still roughly produces 5%? production from radioactive decay. This reactor is ancient in this day and age.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

The control rods stop the fission reaction. You still have the radioactive decay to cool no matter what. Once fission is stopped this reactor still roughly produces 5%? production from radioactive decay. This reactor is ancient in this day and age.

this

bsically, we don't get electricity from radiation. the way it works is that the fuel undergoes fission, which produces heat. lots, and LOTS of heat. this heat is high enough to cause the metal caseing of the core to spontaneously combust, BUT there are pipes of coolant flowing all through the core. this coolant absorbs the heat, and becomes super hot. the coolant pipes lead out from the core and water (plain water) is exposed to these now super hot pipes. that makes steam, which turns turbines.

the control rods only absorb radioactive particles, so they stop the fission. BUT it's still hot as fuck. a SCRAM (term used for emergency shutdown of a reactor) doesn't cool it immediately, it simply halts the production of radioactive shit. After all, to take something as hot as a reactor core and cool it down in a short time, even a whole day would cause the entire unit to explode (hot suddenly cold = shatter)

tl;dr the news media is blowing this out of proportion. they've been pumping seawater in to maintain core integrity. it's fine

[StarsMine]

FYI
http://online.wsj.com/video/not-another-chernobyl/E8F4EE26-E6F9-4999-9CD2-A3555607E800.html?KEYWORDS=WILLIAM+TUCKER

my dad is one of the leading Nuclear scientists in our country and was the. The Director of our nuclear defense policy here for late Bush through early Obama.

and I can tell you that that guy in the video is pretty much spot on to whats going on there. Sure the situation isnt desirable, but those japs know what they are doing

[Curdy]

still more reason to invest in cold fusion

[StarsMine]

as of right now though with modern tech, fission is still safer then most forms of energy we use today.

[Steamer]

After all, to take something as hot as a reactor core and cool it down in a short time, even a whole day would cause the entire unit to explode (hot suddenly cold = shatter)


With new standards core heat & output can be reduced to 90% within ~2 seconds.

^True

[Nemesis]

hey Aco, i always thought a SCRAM would instantly stop a meltdown from happening, is it because what my knowledge is based off of is nuc subs instead of giant reactors? and also, by SCRAMing it with the raw sea water, it'll be totally destroyed, right? as in that is a last ditch effort, once you expose it to sea water you'll never be able to use it again...yes?

[acolyte_to_jippity]

hey Aco, i always thought a SCRAM would instantly stop a meltdown from happening, is it because what my knowledge is based off of is nuc subs instead of giant reactors? and also, by SCRAMing it with the raw sea water, it'll be totally destroyed, right? as in that is a last ditch effort, once you expose it to sea water you'll never be able to use it again...yes?

meltdown does not mean explosion. that's called an explosion. meltdown means just that; the radioactive fuel becomes so hot they actually melt/burn through their containment structure (literally 'melting down') SCRAMing isn't done to reduce heat (though often they'll perform those opperations in conjunction) it's designed to halt the fission taking place. it's done by lowering the control rods into the core in the fastest possible manner. depending on the method of SCRAM used, reactors could be started up easily, or with very much difficulty. the most common SCRAM involves shoving the control rods all the way into the core at one time, halting fission completely. backups for this (and possible primary systems, but i hope not) amount to basically dumping buckets of neutron-absorbing material into the core.

since water (even ion-rich sea-water) doesn't attenuate radiation very well, SCRAMing w/ seawater is not feasible. what they were probably doing, was pumping seawater into the coolant pipes to keep temperatures down while they fixe the main coolant system

[Nemesis]

ah, well thank you. and the whole sea water thing is what i know of from nuc subs. bvasically if there's no other way to stop it from melting down they just open up the reactor to sea water, it fries everything but at least it wont destroy the sub. i assumed it worked the same way here.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

ah, well thank you. and the whole sea water thing is what i know of from nuc subs. bvasically if there's no other way to stop it from melting down they just open up the reactor to sea water, it fries everything but at least it wont destroy the sub. i assumed it worked the same way here.

yeah, that sounds like an emergency heat fix. it probably just requires a thorough cleaning, since seawater is not the purest stuff, and the boiling of it all will lead to alot of stuff building up on the inside of the core

[Stealthsniper]

That is alot of water must suck earthquake then tsunami dang.

[StarsMine]

well the earthquake did next to no damage by itself, they are like california, everything is earthquake proof

[Nemesis]

And now it's snowing, hahahaha they're all fucked.

[taz1stP]

that would suck.

[StarsMine]

shouldnt it help?... have to ask my dad about that

[Nemesis]

shouldnt it help?... have to ask my dad about that

not really, because now not only do they have no power or other utilities, and now it's freezing. plus it's alot harder to dig the corpses of your family out of ice.

and did anyone else see the girl on the news who said that she was there when they dropped the bombs at the end of the war, and that people are pussies and this is nothing. lol.

[Curdy]

seems the radiation is worse than they expected o.O and the winds seem to be pushing it towards you lot >.<

[uuntiltheendd]

did she really say pussies?

[maynard]

whats fucked is a large group of the old people who did get exposed 2 radiation are Hiroshima survivors... that's messed up.

I blame global warming....

[XxMastagunzxX]

whats fucked is a large group of the old people who did get exposed 2 radiation are Hiroshima survivors... that's messed up.

I blame global warming....

i blame george bush

[taz1stP]

i blame curdy for the worlds problems

[loka]

The radiation isn't as severe as it seems or looks. At best you'll just see a higher rate of cancer in Japan as the years go by. We are exposed to radiation daily in our lives. The radiation that you should be concerned about is Alpha and Beta. Gamma goes right through you, but alpha or beta in your system is lethal, and kills your body depending on the radiation within minutes or years.

[SCRIBBLE]

There's not much to be concerned with here.

Media outlets uses fear mongering tactics to bring in ratings ($$$) and that's why the situation is so bad. They use clever wording that incites the idea of fear and panic. Things like "fight to avert disaster," "possible damage," and "could cause leak of high levels of radiation." I over hear people talking about the nuclear "crisis" in Japan and they have translated the media's cleverly worded articles and reports into things like "they are leaking high levels of radiation."

There's a lot of fear surrounding the use of BWRs and PWRs but to be honest it's perfectly safe to drink the primary coolant. In fact, it's as safe as drinking a bottle of water as long as you wait 5 minutes for the principle nuclides to decay.

[loka]

Yeah, blahblahblah FOUO, not a big deal lol.

[๖ReS]

I like the people on facebook who are like,

"Oh well, japan bombed purl harbur so ets just kar-muh huehuehuehue"

Honestly can't tell if they know that we dropped about 30 kilotons of atomc 'fuck you' on them pretty soon after that.

I feel like we kinda got payback... maybe I'm alone here...

[StarsMine]

We got pay back 10 fold on them, quite a bit overkill. If I ever had any of those comments on my FB, they would be instantly defriended

[maynard]

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I like the people on facebook who are like,

"Oh well, japan bombed purl harbur so ets just kar-muh huehuehuehue"

Honestly can't tell if they know that we dropped about 30 kilotons of atomc 'fuck you' on them pretty soon after that.

I feel like we kinda got payback... maybe I'm alone here...

lmfao... for real?

something like 3k Americans died at pearl harbor and the bombs dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima caused like 300 thousand deaths lol... as stars said Americans got their pay back 10 fold... actually 10 fold is a major understatement lol...

you should tell your ignorant friends that the allies won the war just in case ya forgot? and your retaliation was more like 100000 fold on what they did... It's amazing how stupid some people are lol.. no clue why you're friends with such cretins.

also there's a major diff between what happened in the wars, and a natural disaster. most the world has moved forward since those times, it's only the racists and beyond ignorant people who still hold grudges over that shit.

no one deserves 2 go through what japan just did.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

no one deserves 2 go through what japan just did.

this.

just, this.

[uuntiltheendd]

you guys have no idea. i live in north augusta, sc. im surrounded by the most narrow minded cretins you can imagine and i hear things in rl and see people say things on facebook like that that reminds me more and more why i hate humans.

[๖ReS]

You know what's fucked up ?

No rape.

No mass looting.

No murder or stealing, or any shit like that.

Japan just tries to recover and rebuild as a whole and no one tries to take advantage of it, they all work together.

Natural Disaster in America ?

Fuck..

I'm not even going to lie and say it has nothing to do with black people.

Because it does.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

You know what's fucked up ?

No rape.

No mass looting.

No murder or stealing, or any shit like that.

Japan just tries to recover and rebuild as a whole and no one tries to take advantage of it, they all work together.

Natural Disaster in America ?

Fuck..

I'm not even going to lie and say it has nothing to do with black people.

Because it does.

actually, i believe it has more to do with the fact that the japanese re so much more strict. strict as in, you get caught you die.

plus the JSDF patrols alot of the areas, and what they don't cover the three main Yakuza clans do.

[StarsMine]

actually, i believe it has more to do with the fact that the japanese re so much more strict. strict as in, you get caught you die.

plus the JSDF patrols alot of the areas, and what they don't cover the three main Yakuza clans do.

Well thats if they take your case
the reason why their case solve rate is (I believe 94%?) so high is due to the fact that the police department only takes cases they know they can win due to the way there system works. Sucks quite a bit.

[Holy-Sonic]

meltdown does not mean explosion. that's called an explosion. meltdown means just that; the radioactive fuel becomes so hot they actually melt/burn through their containment structure (literally 'melting down') SCRAMing isn't done to reduce heat (though often they'll perform those opperations in conjunction) it's designed to halt the fission taking place. it's done by lowering the control rods into the core in the fastest possible manner. depending on the method of SCRAM used, reactors could be started up easily, or with very much difficulty. the most common SCRAM involves shoving the control rods all the way into the core at one time, halting fission completely. backups for this (and possible primary systems, but i hope not) amount to basically dumping buckets of neutron-absorbing material into the core.

since water (even ion-rich sea-water) doesn't attenuate radiation very well, SCRAMing w/ seawater is not feasible. what they were probably doing, was pumping seawater into the coolant pipes to keep temperatures down while they fixe the main coolant system
Then what exactly happened at Chernobyl, is it the same thing Japan is experiencing.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Then what exactly happened at Chernobyl, is it the same thing Japan is experiencing.

no. chernobyl had NO containment. japan is far, FAR better than chernobyl.

[maynard]

japan looks like a zoo with free cotton candy (blue flavor not pink) compared 2 what Chernobyl was lol

[uuntiltheendd]

i think it also has a lot to do with the majority of them being genuinely good people.

[๖ReS]

lol Chernobyl is still a wasteland.

[loka]

The level of the explosion of the reactor in Chernobyl doesn't compare to Japan. That reactor exploded and it was done. Smoke and fire from the explosion released deadly levels of fallout in the air. A Level 7 (the worse possible) when it comes to contamination. Japan is lucky in a sense because they already had water in their plant. Even if it's salt water, it's still dense enough to slow down any potentially hazardous contamination. Chernobyl was a little late in executing that idea. Of the three core meltdowns, their highest level of contamination is a 5, and still the radiation isn't severe enough to cause worry as much as Chernobyl did.