Ra!n STEAM_0:1:301422

[Sword of Gideon]

SteamID | IP address | Name
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STEAM_0:1:301422 | 71.196.75.162 | Ra!n


06/19/2011 07:11PM 12,671,034 auto-20110619-184206-cs_office.dem
Use demo_timescale 50 and move it close to when the score is 13-11.
Use demo_timescale 1 to make the demo play at real-time.

When the score is 13-11, Ra!n will kill me to end the round. This is right after he knifes a guy in the projection room.
At this point, I am using the walk key so that I do not make any sound at all.
Ra!n prefires as he rounds the corner.
Whenever he's called out for hacking, he says that he has good speakers or headphones or something. This doesn't apply here.

We always tell people, "Don't be so obvious!"
So here, Ra!n isn't being so obvious.
He's still hacking on your server though, obvious or not.



Another way that he hacks is when he sprays over a long distance (generally with an AK47). Now usually when Ra!n is playing and he knows where someone is, he fires bursts. But if he gets into trouble, he will hold down the firebutton and spray below the enemy player's feet. This often results in him killing the enemy player. I thought maybe it was an exploit, so I spent an hour trying to replicate it but could not. I have a demo of it, but I have so many of Ra!n hacking that I can't find it right away. Plus, this was back when I was trash-talking, so it's polluted with that nonsense. I'll try to tape him doing that tactic again, as he does it quite often.

What's really messed up about this particular hacker is that he's actually a pretty decent player. Not as good as his hacks make him out to be, but pretty good nonetheless. So he ends up with 43-6 pretty often, and a LOT of people have said he hacks, and so a LOT of people end up leaving your server to play somewhere else where there isn't a hacker.

I'll try to record some more demos, but the sourceTV demo does show him clearly prefiring on me when I was walking silently. When you watch the demo, there would be no way for a person to know where I would be located at that time.

[maynard]

you need 2 post a demo, or you have no claim.

[Sword of Gideon]

Okay. Today I learned that he invited a friend from his scrims to play here with him.
I learned this because I asked him if they are friends after I saw him do the AK-47 thing.
His friend's name is Trip, and Trip tried asking me if I thought Ra!n was hacking, if I didn't like him stuff like that. But I no longer talk negatively about anyone, so I said that I thought Ra!n was a good player but that I did not disagree with Trip's own "accusations" when he made them to try to be "friendly" to me, etc.

I'll do what I can to show you what I'm seeing, as I understand your point about not wanting to dig through the SourceTV dealie.

[maynard]

if there's something important relating 2 a source TV demo, you need 2 download the demo, and upload it 2 the thread.

[Xerenix]

I'm a little suspicious of Ra!n too considering how he seems to know exactly from which direction you're comming and exactly when you move into his view.

I didn't want to ban him directly since i wasn't exactly sure about him hacking but due to other reasons, i didn't have time to create a thread but it seems someone else did.

Here is a demo of him playing. It starts to get suspicous after tick 32000.

[Masskid]

Ra!n prefires as he rounds the corner.
Whenever he's called out for hacking, he says that he has good speakers or headphones or something. This doesn't apply here.

Another way that he hacks is when he sprays over a long distance (generally with an AK47). Now usually when Ra!n is playing and he knows where someone is, he fires bursts. But if he gets into trouble, he will hold down the firebutton and spray below the enemy player's feet. This often results in him killing the enemy player. I thought maybe it was an exploit, so I spent an hour trying to replicate it but could not. I have a demo of it, but I have so many of Ra!n hacking that I can't find it right away. Plus, this was back when I was trash-talking, so it's polluted with that nonsense. I'll try to tape him doing that tactic again, as he does it quite often.

Yes a good headset does help with playing, when you can hear someone running down the hall you can end up headshoting him when he walks around the corner, any type of nade also points out where your going to be. also the reason he prefires is because he hears you running your loud ass down the hallway most of the time

you know when you spray with an ak it kicks back like a bitch, thats why you can aim at the feet and still hit them in the chest... its called compensating for recoil

[Sword of Gideon]

Yes a good headset does help with playing, when you can hear someone running down the hall you can end up headshoting him when he walks around the corner, any type of nade also points out where your going to be. also the reason he prefires is because he hears you running your loud ass down the hallway most of the time

Masskid, this is EXACTLY what I was talking about. If you read my first post you can read that I was ****WALKING****, i.e. No sounds at all.

[Masskid]

Masskid, this is EXACTLY what I was talking about. If you read my first post you can read that I was ****WALKING****, i.e. No sounds at all.

Yes a good headset does help with playing, when you can hear someone running down the hall you can end up headshoting him when he walks around the corner

obvously you missed that. you might have been walking the corner, but that doesn't stop you from running down the hall. if you run by the vending machines then walk the corner you can still be heard at the vending machines. Basically what i'm trying to say is that he heard you b4 you walked the corner

+ the reason he might "prefire" is because of shadows, in the area by the vending machines you can plainly see the shadow sticking out, so i tend to prefire when walking by

[Ra!n]

so i watch those videos n theres nothing that looks like im hacking.. Second I don't know why u hate me so much lol but its kool i like it n everything u said was wrong lol it clearly shows i dont spray under ppl feet lol n w/e eles u said. Third just Because I high higher score n own u all time doesn't mean for u to make up shit and try get me ban, but u can record all u want all u gonna see is me listening n owning lol. WHEN U RECORD PLEASE PUT THE GAME SOUND UP TOO so u can understand how dumb u are for calling me hacks lol. Its not hard to hear ppl running , shoot , knife coming out or switching weapons n sprays all those can tell u where they at easily now if you scrim as much as i do n done as many leagues as i done u would understand that but u don't ur a nub and im sure u dont know what is a scrim is a 5 vs 5 team vs team. Now since i got vagon w/e the name is i been sucking since im not good at the race n not use to how the race is place so u been seeing my scores going 4-16 when that happens u dont call me hacks lol only when my score is up u call me hacks so please stop typing this fake shit... record all u want i dont care but typing fake shit like this n trying make ppl think i hack is dumb n a noob thing... I REST MY CASE... pce!!

pst if u wanna scrim me let me know so i can own u gidon get 5v5 please so u will look like the noob u are n i will record that match n post it on here lol

[Sword of Gideon]

I don't say anything to you at all in the game anymore Rain. And I won't be saying anything to you at all, anymore.
A lot of people believe you hack. A LOT!!! Not just 1 or 3 or 5, but DOZENS of people. That's too much.

There's never an excuse for hacking.




I just watched the demo from Xerenix. It shows the wall-hacking as clear as day.

[Masskid]

And I don't mind if someone is better than I am. Lots of people are. It's the whole attitude. It's the scroll purchase when you're playing 2v1 and already winning, then when the other guy kills you, you say, "Okay you're gonna play gay. I can do that too." The guy was fighting for any little scrap at the table against two people and you you're scrolling him????


1 word... Zack

[BladeTwinSwords]

1 word... Zack

^ This

[Ra!n]

Is that all you can say really? kid your so sad and everyone in the server is tired of you when ur gone everyone talk shit about u noone likes u dont u get it ? lol and please get ppl to come on the forums and say i hack dont just make up shit u baddie wheres the other dozen ppl on this forums saying i hack???? noone but u. There's only 1 excuse going on here is just ur mad i own u all the time and all u do is QQ like a lil girl n say i cheat lol bro your sad n thats why noone likes u. BTW YABLOW lol pce kid and keep recording those bad demos lol that show noting lol

pst please please get 5 so i can scrim ur dumb ass so i can record how bad u got own lol

[Ra!n]

so i just watch xere demo agin from the start to round 11 n theres noting with walling there clearly its sound baddie n radar but u dont know how use ur sound so thats why ur so dumb n dont understand how sound works obv lol i want u to watch the demo agin n write down what ever round u think i cheated or walled on.. n i will watch it agin anf explain to ur dumb ass how i knew or w/e pce nub once agin ur making ur self look like a dumb ass gratz

so remeber write down what round n what i did to make it look like i was walling so everyone can see and i want u to use ur game sound louder n mute all the players mic

[Spasm]

All I got to say is you need to calm waaaayyyyy down rain. I can barely make any sense of your posts and your just going off, and really it's uncalled for.

[Ra!n]

Btw im still waiting for those dozen of ppl who think i cheat to post here

[acolyte_to_jippity]

Btw im still waiting for those dozen of ppl who think i cheat to post here

i'm still waiting to see an attitude that suggests we should want to unban you.

edit: also waiting on a slightly better placement of punctuation in your posts, for the sake of readability

[Xerenix]

i'm still waiting to see an attitude that suggests we should want to unban you.

edit: also waiting on a slightly better placement of punctuation in your posts, for the sake of readability

He hasn't been banned. This thread is more about getting other peoples opinions about him hacking or not.

[maynard]

I lack the special decoder ring that's needed 2 make sense of his posts.

[Ra!n]

u should post what video looks like i was walling n what rounds i would love to see this... btw guys sorry if my english is bad not my first lang

[Wolfenstinger]

I lack the special decoder ring that's needed 2 make sense of his posts.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdA__2tKoIU

-And now to actually add some sort of input about it-

He doesn't hack but I wouldn't say hes "amaaaaaaayyyyyzing" at WCS yet either. High KD ratio whores have been sucked into the server. Probably the one thing I don't like about our stats system - there will be those psychostat whores out there who play very little on purpose.

But meh.

[Chuck]

I agree one hundred percent. You are not an experienced enough player to know that you can spray below and opposing player like 2 inches and still get a random headshot then you dont have creditability to call hacks on some one. And hearing someone walk up on you is extremely easy. Sound is also amplified when you are next to walls if you didn't know that. So do i think he is hakcing no.

[Masskid]

he dont hack XD trust me when i watch him i can predict just as well as him.... aiming is a whole other story... i suck at thatone

[Sword of Gideon]

I'll try to locate a demo to illustrate what I'm talking about Chuck. In the meantime, I'll try to better explain it.

Usually, Ra!n knows where everyone is at. But if he gets surprised and doesn't know where the damage is coming from, he uncharactersistically holds down the firebutton instead of just tapping it; and is seen aiming WAY BELOW the feet of the enemy from a medium to long distance and gets kills that way; yeah, that's not right.
I tried to duplicate this method thinking it was an exploit. I couldn't. Not because I'm not good at the game or lack experience. I'm quite good at the game and generally score at the top or near the top even when my team is losing horribly.

This is how I learned that the new player Trip was Rain's friend. It's the same exact method. I asked him right after I saw it if he was Rain's friend and he said that they belong to some clan that scrims all the time. So yeah, I'm quite able to discern what I see with my own eyes.

[maynard]

I had no problem killing him. every 1 else seems 2, but I don't. he's quick ill give him that, he's got above average reaction speeds and good aim but as for hacking, I don't think so.

[Ra!n]

maynard u n radar pobly kill me the most in there lol i killed radar a lot more times than i killed u but for some reason i cant kill u maynard lol bc u run too fast n that mess up my aim a lot lol n that sheild thing omg lol dont get me start but ya thats fun

[Masskid]

Usually, Ra!n knows where everyone is at. But if he gets surprised and doesn't know where the damage is coming from, he uncharactersistically holds down the firebutton instead of just tapping it; and is seen aiming WAY BELOW the feet of the enemy from a medium to long distance and gets kills that way; yeah, that's not right.
I tried to duplicate this method thinking it was an exploit. I couldn't. Not because I'm not good at the game or lack experience. I'm quite good at the game and generally score at the top or near the top even when my team is losing horribly.
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ok.... you do understand what recoil is right? well recoil is the kickback the gun creates when firing a bullet.

you also understand what compensating for recoil is right? thats using the kick back of the gun to shoot higher then where your aiming.

so in theory the further the target the further down you have to aim right?

[jfschizo]

Rain is a normal player who has been playing for a verylong time now. he's an everyday guy im sure many will say the same. when gideon first came in this server i was told that my mother rip was a bitch and wouldnt stop arguing with me and got me muted,wow! im not going to get on that subject at this time, but im posting to let you know that ra!n is not a hacker.
--JFSCHIZO

[Sword of Gideon]

ok.... you do understand what recoil is right? well recoil is the kickback the gun creates when firing a bullet.

you also understand what compensating for recoil is right? thats using the kick back of the gun to shoot higher then where your aiming.

so in theory the further the target the further down you have to aim right?

Again, I tried to recreate the way I see him & Trip using their tactics because I thought it was a game exploit. I could not recreate it in over an hour's time.
But I can see that I'm going to have to find demos from my stockpile to show you what I'm talking about.

---------- Post added at 08:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:31 PM ----------


im not going to get on that subject at this time, but


But you did. :reddot:

[SCRIBBLE]

Again, I tried to recreate the way I see him & Trip using their tactics because I thought it was a game exploit. I could not recreate it in over an hour's time.
But I can see that I'm going to have to find demos from my stockpile to show you what I'm talking about.

---------- Post added at 08:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:31 PM ----------




But you did. :reddot:

It's been 7 days and no additional evidence was posted to support your argument. This speaks for itself.

From the demo provided and mentioned in this thread, there is no proof of him using hacks.