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BladeTwinSwords
07-06-2011, 05:56 PM
ZERO, can you pull up the logs on who used this command, even though I'm pretty sure of who did it.

6:45PM EST.
Helms Deep
ZMOD

[hop] WCS MOD+ - de_westwood (9/22) [type !servers to join]
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for THE COCK GOBBLER (STEAM_0:1:16901735).
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for THE COCK GOBBLER (STEAM_0:1:16901735).
THE COCK GOBBLER connected.
[SM] Gravity set to 99999999"
noname died.
Console: **Door is under attack!**
*DEAD* noname : wtf
BravoTAlpha died.
Pajama Sam died.
Unbreakable died.
Fuzzy Wuzzy died.
-zlm- THE HOLY SH**! died.
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*DEAD* noname : wtf just happened i just died and flew into ceiling
*DEAD* -zlm- THE HOLY SH**! : WTFFFF????
_)(__Krafty_Kutz__)(_ died.
{Green}Join our GunGame server at 208.43.70.233:27015
BladeTwinSwords <ibis.a> died.
Player: BladeTwinSwords <ibis.a> - Damage Given
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Damage Given to "BravoTAlpha" - 20 in 1 hit
Damage Given to "Pajama Sam" - 36 in 1 hit
Player: BladeTwinSwords <ibis.a> - Damage Taken
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Damage Taken from "world" - 701 in 1 hit
awaken killed Evil <ibis.a> with zombie_claws_of_death.
[hop] IBIS Pub # 1 - de_cpl_mill (5/22) [type !servers to join]
Console: **The battering ram is breaking the door!**
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THE COCK GOBBLER suicided.
=l4DA=mr.minoraty : LOL
[ZR] For help on Zombie:Reloaded commands, type "!zmenu" in chat.
[ZR] The game is Humans vs. Zombies, the goal for zombies is to infect all humans by knifing them.
-zlm- THE HOLY SH**! died.
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BladeTwinSwords <ibis.a> died.
Player: BladeTwinSwords <ibis.a> - Damage Taken
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Damage Taken from "world" - 701 in 1 hit
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noname died.
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pedo died.
THE COCK GOBBLER died.
awaken died.
Pajama Sam died.
BravoTAlpha died.
PlayerStatsUpdate message from server has out of band values; ignoring
morsel died.
*DEAD* noname : wtf is going on
*DEAD* Toothball : WTF
Console: ** Type mat_colorcorrection 1 in console for better illumination (will be set to 1 forever) **
[ZR] For help on Zombie:Reloaded commands, type "!zmenu" in chat.
[ZR] The game is Humans vs. Zombies, the goal for zombies is to infect all humans by knifing them.
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Small Cheese (STEAM_0:0:31613870).
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Small Cheese (STEAM_0:0:31613870).
Toothball died.
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Nate died.
Evil <ibis.a> died.
BOT GLITCHED AND HACKED died.
pdejongh died.
Trallen died.
noname died.
_)(__Krafty_Kutz__)(_ died.
SpudWrench died.
pedo died.
awaken died.
Pajama Sam died.
BravoTAlpha died.
Small Cheese connected.
morsel died.
djhss68 connected.
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for djhss68 (STEAM_0:0:17629262).
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for djhss68 (STEAM_0:0:17629262).
Console: ** Type mat_colorcorrection 1 in console for better illumination (will be set to 1 forever) **
Console: ** MAP BY HANNIBAL [SPA] (Rafuron) **
<>-<>-<>-RT-<>-<>-<> died.
Gods Fatality died.
-zlm- THE HOLY SH**! died.
=l4DA=mr.minoraty died.
*DEAD* noname : wtf is going on
Lil_Jeffrey died.
Small Cheese died.
*DEAD* Pajama Sam : rtv
Fuzzy Wuzzy died.
*DEAD* Fuzzy Wuzzy : wtf
*DEAD* <>-<>-<>-RT-<>-<>-<> : wtf
*DEAD* =l4DA=mr.minoraty : THE FUCK
*DEAD* BravoTAlpha : heheheheh
djhss68 died.
*DEAD* noname : jump blade
[ZR] For help on Zombie:Reloaded commands, type "!zmenu" in chat.
[ZR] The game is Humans vs. Zombies, the goal for zombies is to infect all humans by knifing them.
] sm_rcon gravity 800
djhss68 died.
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morsel died.
Nate died.
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Fuzzy Wuzzy died.
_)(__Krafty_Kutz__)(_ died.
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pedo died.
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Small Cheese died.
=l4DA=mr.minoraty died.
awaken died.
Pajama Sam died.
BravoTAlpha died.
PlayerStatsUpdate message from server has out of band values; ignoring
[SM] You do not have access to this command.
*DEAD* Fuzzy Wuzzy : this isnt fun
Console: ** Type mat_colorcorrection 1 in console for better illumination (will be set to 1 forever) **
*DEAD* noname : lol
*DEAD* =l4DA=mr.minoraty : YAY
*DEAD* djhss68 : tha fuyck????
[ZR] For help on Zombie:Reloaded commands, type "!zmenu" in chat.
[ZR] The game is Humans vs. Zombies, the goal for zombies is to infect all humans by knifing them.
-zlm- THE HOLY SH**! died.
morsel died.
Nate died.
Evil <ibis.a> died.
BOT GLITCHED AND HACKED died.
Trallen died.
<>-<>-<>-RT-<>-<>-<> died.
Fuzzy Wuzzy died.
_)(__Krafty_Kutz__)(_ died.
THE COCK GOBBLER died.
awaken died.
Pajama Sam died.
BravoTAlpha died.
SpudWrench : wow
*DEAD* _)(__Krafty_Kutz__)(_ : ok fuck off this is gay
[hop] GunGame MOD+ - gg_deagle5_4hm (21/22) [type !servers to join]
Console: ** Type mat_colorcorrection 1 in console for better illumination (will be set to 1 forever) **
Haterzzz [B.i.G] connected.
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Haterzzz [B.i.G] (STEAM_0:1:20485540).
[SteamBans.com] No positive match found for Haterzzz [B.i.G] (STEAM_0:1:20485540).
*DEAD* Pajama Sam : BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Console: ** MAP BY HANNIBAL [SPA] (Rafuron) **
*DEAD* Pajama Sam : BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Haterzzz [B.i.G] died.
*DEAD* morsel : RTV
*DEAD* THE COCK GOBBLER : wtf is this
KuroiKenshi died.
Gods Fatality died.
[SM] iExplodeYourZombie ibis.a: Initiated a gravity vote.
=l4DA=mr.minoraty died.
*DEAD* Pajama Sam : fix it
djhss68 died.
[SM] Evil <ibis.a>: Cancelled the vote.
SpudWrench died.
*DEAD* morsel : RTV
Small Cheese died.
] rcon_gravity 800
[SM] Gravity set to 800"
*DEAD* morsel : 11111111
[ZR] For help on Zombie:Reloa

maynard
07-06-2011, 05:57 PM
zero can you remove the gravity command, no 1 needs it....

Link
07-06-2011, 06:01 PM
i personally enjoy the gravity command. :D

and you can identify who used the command, easily..so it's just a matter of f'ing them up for their abuse :)


there are some maps (at least in gg), where lower gravity is cool. now instead of having to initiate a vote, i can just set it. even change it back afterwards :p plus there's total accountability, because it records who uses those commands.

maynard
07-06-2011, 06:03 PM
i personally enjoy the gravity command. :D


interesting statement for someone who was just called out as being a shit admin:smirk:

Link
07-06-2011, 06:06 PM
by someone who presented nothing to back it up other than their word. xD if someones going to accuse, then they can at least be expected to back it up with something other than my name and their claim. :)

in fact i used the gravity command today to set it in gungame. did a map with a reduced gravity, and on deagle i wanted to see what would be cool. ultimately the players expressed it's fine at normal, so i reset it and left it alone :p

B1ackOut
07-06-2011, 06:07 PM
Zombie mod needs it occasionally as Death Star escape changes the gravity. But can you limit it to certain admins who can be trusted not to fuck with it.

maynard
07-06-2011, 06:08 PM
I was just playing... but no 1 should be fucking with the gravity, just cause 1 admin wants 2 fuck around doesn't mean the entire server wants 2.

but as I said before, it's not like all talk, or noblock or something you guys use and need, gravity is a command that just causes problems when it's used 99% of the time.

Evil
07-06-2011, 06:09 PM
I did it. I just got too over excited. Sorry for abusing. :(

maynard
07-06-2011, 06:10 PM
But can you limit it to certain admins who can be trusted not to fuck with it.

or just make it a senior admin and up only command... till will tell...

B1ackOut
07-06-2011, 06:13 PM
or just make it a senior admin and up only command... till will tell...
Even better.

Link
07-06-2011, 06:13 PM
i think the best use of gravity can be with the consent of the players. after all, it's them playing, and they outnumber me. having admin is only fun if their experience in the server is better, or at least not worse, because of me or other admins.

if we want to be strict and to the point about it, no, we don't need the means to set gravity. obviously, evil went a little overboard, lol...and restricting to upper level and clan could also work.

but as i said earlier, we successfully used it in gungame without problems, and when players protested, I immediately restored the normal level. used in that fashion, i think it's cool and can be useful for fun servers. out of hand, like some people (lol evil :)) it gets crazy. hehe.

whatever you like zero. heh.

Evil
07-06-2011, 06:16 PM
Link is correct. I have been going overboard with this command. I would just get excited too much. It would only happen for like 10 secs though, then I would put it back. I won't abuse anymore. I just like to spice things up a bit, but I do take it overboard... :(

BladeTwinSwords
07-06-2011, 06:16 PM
Possibly. BUT if you want to have fun by jeopardizing the server stability, then you should not have admin. (No, cabaret for naked strippers doesn't count).

Steamer
07-06-2011, 06:23 PM
I asked you if you did it in ZM yesterday too Evil (When me and you were the only admins on.) and you just ignored me, which in then caused me to restart the map 3 times looking for a glitch in case some coding was messed up after Zero just got done with the rcon link.... The gravity RCON is not a damn toy. It has been know many times to cause physics / prop errors.

Rarely after certain maps (deathstar) gravity does screw up on ZM, so it is kind of needed.

Or.... remove the function from abusing admins atm. It will take less of Zero's time and decent admins can still use it if needed.

Later on Zero can just give it to high ranking admins?

I would suggest the same with parachutes, they can be nasty also...

And Evil, that's what voting is for. I know I was pissed yesterday after just building my cade near CT spawn in highschool and jumped and dropped dead without know shit going on. That spot is a bitch to set with the spawn time and idiots running by.

Evil
07-06-2011, 06:29 PM
I asked you if you did it in ZM yesterday too Evil (When me and you were the only admins on.) and you just ignored meI didn't see any messages towards me. Sorry for not replying. :( Also, I never knew gravity can mess up the servers, I have never seen the server get really messed up because of that.

maynard
07-06-2011, 06:29 PM
fucking with the gravity has ALWAYS been a no no in this community. it fucks the stability of the server, can crash it and pisses the masses off. most people who play on our servers play seriously and care about their physco stats and server rank. when you change the gravity you completely fuck with everyone. there's literally no reason any 1 should be fucking with it. admin commands are there 2 help you administrate the server, not for you 2 play with cause you're bored or excited.

ZERO
07-06-2011, 06:34 PM
I can also program a min and max value for it to make it impossible to do this...

What values would u all like?

maynard
07-06-2011, 06:45 PM
for WCS it should be locked. there's no point and or time that it should be messed with on WCS given it would screw with the racial balance of the server. some races get lower gravity, and the majority of the races don't. so screwing with it on WCS would just screw with game play and as most people take WCS fairly serious and want the money so they can buy more xp, it would make sense 2 not allow gravity changes on wcs.

BladeTwinSwords
07-06-2011, 06:57 PM
I can also program a min and max value for it to make it impossible to do this...

What values would u all like?

High gravity should be like 1100, low gravity should be 500.

On GG it can be 400, 1600. Pub can be the same way since jumping and fall damage aren't high priorities.

WCS should lile maymay said, be locked.

Also evil, I heard from alex that you were disarming humans to tag them. I also do not want you switching your teams to either avoid getting tagged or to scare people.

Steamer
07-06-2011, 06:59 PM
I honestly don't see a need to set a min / max. Admins should not screw with it unless needed.

As maynard said, WCS should be a strict no no on messing with gravity. It is 100% fact it will screw with races and such.

Voting should be the only scenario to where it should be used in GG or ZM to make things fun. Even then it can cause stability issues and may have to be followed by a rcon_restart.

maynard
07-06-2011, 07:00 PM
Also evil, I heard from alex that you were disarming humans to tag them. I also do not want you switching your teams to either avoid getting tagged or to scare people.

yeah... that's a good way 2 lose admin on our servers lol... using admin for your own personal gain = bad fuckin idea.


I honestly don't see a need to set a min / max. Admins should not screw with it unless needed.

+1

Spasm
07-06-2011, 07:24 PM
Had tons of fun on pub playing with gravity late at night or early in the morning, sometimes people do want to screw around and have fun. I think it should be limited to gungame or pub, restricted on WCS for sure, ZM I dunno. I think if you abuse it, needs to be taken away from them, imo.

H.Bitch
07-06-2011, 07:44 PM
Just get rid of gravity, parachutes too while you're at it.

Evil
07-06-2011, 08:18 PM
evil, I heard from alex that you were disarming humans to tag them. I also do not want you switching your teams to either avoid getting tagged or to scare people.What? I never did anything of that sort. That is just fucking stupid and just uterly a failure in my book. Why the fuck would I want to disarm people, then tag them. I hate shit like that myself. That would basically be cheating. Plus, Admins don't have that kind of power right now so I wouldn't be able to do that. O_O That is just the easiest way for admins to get their powers taken away and to even be banned. I'm not trying to get my admin powers taken away by doing stupid shit like that. I could understand getting my gravity powers taken away, but that would be an automatic ban.

Also, I change teams just for the lulz. The zombies would always follow me, which gives me a good laugh. I only change teams when I am a zombie though. When you change teams when your a zombie, you are still a zombie and you cannot tag anyone or be tagged.

Rosie
07-06-2011, 08:45 PM
I personally like the ZM max and Min(1100-500). I died flipping a bookcase the other day because it went to 9999. I could see where on ZM, Pub, and GG it could add a little fun. But to me the only way it should be changed is by a vote or after a space map that screws with the server. I also was there when Steamer reset the map on Highschool the other day. Unless you are blind and deaf you would have had to know he thought it was a glitch as he said it 5-6 times and put in admin chat. Just sayin.

Evil
07-06-2011, 09:24 PM
Unless you are blind and deaf you would have had to know he thought it was a glitch as he said it 5-6 times and put in admin chat. Just sayin.One, I have been putting myself in spec a lot because I would continue to change the skins on my guns and such. I would also leave the server to install the skins. So I would either exit out of CS:S or I would be on spectate and press the little 'windows' button on my keyboard to get out of CS:S for a quick second to put different skins. I am always changing the skins on my guns, just for the heck of it. :)

itsme
07-07-2011, 01:35 AM
I suggest having us able to set the gravity to only 800 using the rcon command. And keep the vote grav in, so we can still mess around if we want to but only if the majority of people will allow it. This will prevent abuse as well as allow us to set the gravity to normal as needed.

THE HOLY SH**T!
07-07-2011, 04:30 PM
or... just dont mess with the gravity and this wouldnt be an issue...

i don't know why some people have admin... half the time when ive been on theirs been obvious cade breakers and the admin would warn the guy 3/4 times to not do it before he kick him...

then comes jback in and does the same thing 2 mins later.. admins need to flat the fuck out and do wats right... their was 23 people on at peek time yesterday..the server was lagging and needed reset... even though i do not think admins have reseting abilities at this time...

Link
07-07-2011, 05:13 PM
gravity manipulation should definitely be restricted on WCS, maybe ZM.

as i've said before, i think it's fine on gungame, even pub. it requires discretion on the admin's part. if they go around messing with gravity and abusing it, it won't go unnoticed. and then, they get it removed.


there's not really a need for a min/max, i don't think. restricted on wcs maybe zm, not on gg or pub. i think it can work

BladeTwinSwords
07-07-2011, 05:14 PM
then comes jback in and does the same thing 2 mins later.. admins need to flat the fuck out and do wats right... their was 23 people on at peek time yesterday..the server was lagging and needed reset... even though i do not think admins have reseting abilities at this time...

No, we do have the power to reset the servers, it's just that admins are too fucking retarded and only know how to kick, ban, and slap themselves.

alex_mamaroneck
07-09-2011, 03:38 PM
What? I never did anything of that sort. That is just fucking stupid and just uterly a failure in my book. Why the fuck would I want to disarm people, then tag them. I hate shit like that myself. That would basically be cheating. Plus, Admins don't have that kind of power right now so I wouldn't be able to do that. O_O That is just the easiest way for admins to get their powers taken away and to even be banned. I'm not trying to get my admin powers taken away by doing stupid shit like that. I could understand getting my gravity powers taken away, but that would be an automatic ban.

Also, I change teams just for the lulz. The zombies would always follow me, which gives me a good laugh. I only change teams when I am a zombie though. When you change teams when your a zombie, you are still a zombie and you cannot tag anyone or be tagged.

Sooooooo you are saying you haven't cheated and that I'm lying about my claim of u disarming players and noclipping?
sinister was admin for lulz, Hall was admins for lulz..... twice.... do you want to be the next failed admin for lulz and claim that i'm bias, abusing admin and need to have "a resonable doubt" about you?

can you admit to me that you were abusing, that you are sorry for abusing and that you won't do it again?

Pale Horse
07-09-2011, 06:13 PM
Things Evil likes to do:

Change maps to ones he wants after a consensus map vote chooses a map
Changes gravity
Glitches players guns
Be useless and ignore all rule violations in game

He really needs to be removed.

maynard
07-09-2011, 06:17 PM
closed...

this is the admin abuse section, if admins are failing at the job, then go 2 the source tv demo's page, grab demo's of said admin or record your own as you see them doing shit and report them properly.

I'm growing tired of every 1 shit talking every 1 else but no 1 posting actual proof 2 back the claims...

http://www.ibisgaming.com/forums/showthread.php/6434-Links-to-Demos